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1441  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: "HCP's (at least) one month long experiment of the Arakne Trading Bot"™ on: January 03, 2020, 10:13:28 PM
their were FOUR different outcomes which was apparently dependent on what VPS your bot was running on??!? Huh So, some users ended up with a 1% win... some users got hammered for a 30% loss... and a couple of results inbetween.

Sounds more like their is no bot at all..

Do any users have the exact same results and exact same trade times?
1442  Other / Meta / Re: IS GIVING RED-TRUST THAT NON-EXPLANATORY ? on: January 03, 2020, 10:02:04 PM
Me tagging Lauda would be unlikely to make them unqualified for their signature deal..
Lauda loosing their signature deal probably wouldn't change anything anyway.. You think they will just leave if they can't get paid for a signature?
Red-tagging has nothing to do with being "removed" either..

I also do not necessarily think that Lauda is all that high risk to trade with..
I highly doubt Lauda would scam on any simple trades or deals up to quite a high value, say up to around $10k, though I don't think they are a very good choice for an escrow or to be given very large exit scam opportunities anymore, but very few are up to that mark..


I highly doubt Lauda actually thinks that I myself am a high risk to trade with either.. Do you @Lauda?
Lauda do you think I would really scam over $100 or even $1k?


Where I do not trust Lauda is to be in charge/in influence of making the "laws", setting community standards/precedents, and wielding power over others..
As a matter of fact actually, I would trust Lauda to do just about exactly what they say they would do, which consists of banning/tagging/shutting up/exiling anyone that disagrees with them and greatly limiting the freedom of users in general, based on my interpretation of their statements and actions against users..
1443  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 03, 2020, 08:04:37 PM
And what a strange bunch we are.
We should have a pool: who's going to be the last (wo)man standing? 20 now, 16 next month, then 13, 10, ... and at some point 2 years from now the last DT1 who never lost will lose his spot for the first time.
I put my money on theymos Cheesy

Theymos is out  Shocked  Wink
1444  Other / Meta / Re: IS GIVING RED-TRUST THAT NON-EXPLANATORY ? on: January 03, 2020, 07:51:34 PM
What is wrong with you eddie and techshare, get this cunt lauda glowing red
get their sigs removed

What would that accomplish other than a brief satisfaction of a limited set of users?
I think attacks and "retaliation" like that are generally used when an opponent runs out of, or has a lack of, pertinent information and logic to back their case as ad hominem charactor assassination attempts usually..

"ad hominem"=directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
I'm after the position, not any person..

It may look like a short term win, or successful hit, but in the long term truth and logic are much more effective, and I believe sending redtags would just degrade the image and credibility of intelligence presented..

I don't care about removing Lauda's or anyone's signatures.. I am not looking to personally destroy anyone like that.. They can shitpost for sig pay all they want for all I care..

It's about the credibility of DT and influence over the direction of DT.. Not some users profiles..
1445  Economy / Reputation / Re: Ree @hacker1001101001 ICO bump? on: January 03, 2020, 07:15:07 PM
3) something which looks like "payed to bump ICO" : I agreed to be involved in such posting but left when I got to knew it's forbidden here.

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Minimum 10 constructive posts per week (twitter and Facebook reports doesn't count). Regular posts in the alternate cryptocurrencies section are desired.

Imagine how a newbie would see those rules, which I changed acting on later and started posting more in other sections like Speculation, Speculation (Altcoins), Altcoin Discussion, Economics and Bitcoin Discussion you can see as you have already scanned through my post history. But this was only when I get to knew slowly about the rules. I am very clear here about my intentions back then and now so that everyone could judge the change. I have agreed being naive but proved not being the same now.

Were you payed specifically, unrelated to the signature campaign, to bump post specific ICOs?
Were you only posting in ICO threads to satisfy your sig campaign, or were you also being paid separately for any other specific targeted posting such as thread bumping?
1446  Other / Meta / Re: IS GIVING RED-TRUST THAT NON-EXPLANATORY ? on: January 02, 2020, 11:21:52 PM
earning myself a ton of distrus
More and more almost daily..

Respect theymos because he's an authority here, or because he 'tries'?
Because he does what he can to keep the forum true to its roots, despite those who are not here for the reasons Bitcoin and this forum were created..

Again, you write because of bias.
Bias towards theymos because he will continue to keep the forum free while you would rather turn it into a police state..

It's really that simple..
1447  Other / Meta / Re: IS GIVING RED-TRUST THAT NON-EXPLANATORY ? on: January 02, 2020, 07:55:30 PM
Is fun, for me and a couple of other blokes at least.
when one tries to force players to play their hands.
It is quite entertaining, especially the climax of the game when it's time for everyone to put their cards on the table..

since then you seem highly biased against me
Right, like I haven't spoke against your attempted authoritarianism for years, and haven't been being randomly attacked by you for years here.. Lol..
Surely this is something new..

It has been increasing lately because 1. you are going off the rails, leaving many abusive ratings and blatently refusing to follow guidelines while showing utter disrespect for theymos and his efforts..
2. It's time to show the cards right? You ready? My chips are obviously on the table as far as whose side of this I think will come out on top in the end..

Have a glass of wine or two, or whatever you like.
Then I can be drunk and know things like TMAN Smiley

This incident between us is not even worth the time you spend posting about it. Save the time and enjoy your life! Smiley
Why is it worth your time? You would just love it if I shut up wouldn't you...
1448  Other / Meta / Re: IS GIVING RED-TRUST THAT NON-EXPLANATORY ? on: January 02, 2020, 07:28:11 PM
This drama about negs being given for petty reasons could be obviated if only we had some strong guidance from up top

I highly doubt it..

I couldn't give a shit about neither community nor theymos guidelines
Do you really think that I care what theymos said

This user has obviously and openly gone rogue against the systems guidelines..

I just did not think it was appropriate to neg a member because of a difference either in perspective of the facts or opinions. 
I have a hunch that this is about to get more prevalent and their is being a push to normalize it, seeing as their is currently an attempt to set precedent on it and all..

I'm pretty sure Lauda has a strong spine and can take a lot of BS that's thrown his/her way
They think they are untouchable and will get away with absolutely refusing to follow the guidelines...
We will see..
1449  Economy / Reputation / Re: Plagiarism apologist #92110 “cryptohunter” rationalized dishonesty in principle on: January 02, 2020, 01:47:44 AM
bingo

Ah, the bingo thing..
I think CH was using anything he could against them at the time, and this was one of the poorer examples he tried to use..

To save you some work this is the alt account in question.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2580400
It shows -18 for me, so I doubt one more would help or hurt much..
Continually tagging CH at this point is a bit like beating a dead horse..
1450  Economy / Reputation / Re: Have you seen Yobit's new signature design? on: January 02, 2020, 12:48:02 AM
Does X10 even have a blockchain? I think no.. Which makes it a bit ironic being advertised by a block explorer doesn't it?
1451  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Random Thoughts on: January 02, 2020, 12:35:33 AM
At the U.S. border, what is the legally proper answer to the question of the disk’s contents?

How about.. "I do not consent to this search and will exercise my right to remain silent."  ... .. .. . "Am I being detained?"
That might not work if you aren't a US citizen though trying to enter the US..

I don't see how information on a disk matters all that much when you can simply remember all of your Bitcoins across any boarder, such as memorizing your seed, or store your encrypted data anywhere on the internet and remember the decryption password/application across the boarder with you..

If you are from the US then encryption is legal and you have rights.. If you aren't a US citizen then encryption might not even be legal for you, and you don't have constitutional rights like a citizen does, so they probably have laws allowing them to do about whatever they want with you..

Someone terrifically stupid needs to be a guinea pig (“test case”) for this, such that the question may be properly decided by the United States Supreme Court.
How much does this gig pay?
1452  Economy / Reputation / Re: Plagiarism apologist #92110 “cryptohunter” rationalized dishonesty in principle on: January 02, 2020, 12:00:00 AM
You came back for cryptohunter?

OK, sure.. One more reason to tag CH.. For being an apologist of plagiarizers..

I think plagiarizers, scammers, and many types of criminals should be shamed too, but you know, it seems that about half the world out there are apologists for criminals and blame it on poverty, just about every time a black guy gets shot by the cops..  
I'm glad you distrust these people.. I do too to an extent.. Poor judgement.. But I don't think I'd hand out negative ratings to every user who has ever blamed crime on poverty, or I bet you could go to the P&S section and gather a sizable list..
1453  Other / Meta / Re: JollyGood: an amazing journey becoming Hero member rank on 1st January 2020 on: January 01, 2020, 11:41:31 PM
Might be the best one of these upranking threads I've seen yet..
Congrats man.. Very deserving..

Sorry about Cryptsy and thank you for your service..
1454  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 01, 2020, 11:29:29 PM
I'd give it about a 9/10 IMO and think it should stay with minimal changes if any..

Which is actually a pretty resounding endorsement, given your experiences with it, heh.  Many of the people who think it needs to be changed were citing that example.
Man this is a hard one to reply to..

It's not about the stupid tag to me, it's about opposing Stalin & friends, and it really just helps that..
The tag is just good evidence, a good example I suppose you could say, and actually a damn good reference if looked into so it probably actually does more good than harm from the big picture..
It doesn't limit me in any way, nor embarrass me, I don't really care, and actually think it is such a blunder to the point of it being comical..  
A battle scar.. Some users have many many untrusted feedback battle scars, and I only have one, fine..

Overall DT is getting better and better but their will always be things to be done and always control freaks to oppose..
If I get attacked for talking shit against control freaks then lol @ them..

I believe what eddie13 is saying here is the system is fine, but the way the people use it still needs work.
It's drifting the right direction IMO but it's slow..
The overall consensus of DT is also already quite conservative, which is good, and getting more conservative..
A few control freak untouchable stragglers still kicking but give it time.. Rome wasn't built in a day..


I think we should leave the current trust system as it is rather than throw it all up in the air & confuse everybody again.
Maybe minor changes but definitely don't scrap it..
It would be all that work everyone has done for nothing..
1455  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 01, 2020, 08:34:07 PM
I'd give it about a 9/10 IMO and think it should stay with minimal changes if any..
1456  Other / Meta / Re: Trust Feature idea: give DT1 the ability to remove specific feedbacks from DT on: January 01, 2020, 08:15:56 PM
After all, my personal trust list is, well, personal.
Actually.. It's kinda public..

how can I judge whether someone is displaying good or poor judgement (so I can decide whether to include or exclude them as above) with secret ballots?
You could judge them based on their philosophies, weather their ideas/positions align with yours or not, and their inclusions list, if the vote list was separate from their inclusions list, vote list being secret and inclusions list remaining public..

If I run for mayor of my town, should I have to publish all of my voting choices in all the past elections including propositions, judges, representatives, primaries, and presidential?

What if I don't want everyone in my town to know that I voted against the recreational marijuana proposition?
They would all hate me at its face value, but maybe I voted against it because the proposition basically hands the market to corporations making sure to squeeze the little guy out by requiring ridiculously high licencing fees and startup costs to comply with the stupid law, and it being a government tax collecting scheme even if they don't care that China is coming in to buy it all up..

My biggest gripe with the trust system is the way it is tied to merits and voting.. Just because a user can earn a lot of merits doesn't mean, to me, that they are necessarily a good choice to have a huge amount of voting power..
Agreed. But a Merit requirement is a good way to keep account farmers out.
Right.. The system is pretty good.. Nothing is perfect..

The opposite doesn't make sense: if you don't want to include someone, why would you want him to be on DT1?
I don't know.. If I lived in sanfran and worked at Google maybe I wouldn't want everyone to know I voted for Trump..

What if I wanted to exclude a campaign manager because of their poor political philosophies but not want them to hate me and deny my signature application because of it?

My Trust list viewer is often used to fuel drama, but as long as it's public information, I believe in making it easily accessible.
Absolutely..
It is very useful and I like to think of all of these data collection projects by users here as a good reminder of, if this is what these relative amateurs are capable of, what do you think the professionals (3 letter agencies) are capable of?

As it stands right now as some one who has been around for all iterations of the trust system, I think the one we have now is the best so far (short of no trust system at all). I think we need to give it some more time to let the dust settle and let the disputes work their way through the system.
Agreed...
This is 98% where I'm at right now too, but it is fun/interesting to hypothesize..

I'm not suggesting my hypotheticals to be included into the system, just thinking/rambling about what I perceive to be possible weaknesses..


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effectively I'm probably not even using half of my voting power
Good thing the power is in your hands and not who knows who else..
But do you think this amount of power in a single users hands should exist at all?

For example.. You might like the idea of your president using an executive action to do something that you like, but you must remember, what precedent does this set that the opposition may be able to use some day to do something you don't like if they get their hands on this same power..
1457  Other / Meta / Re: Trust Feature idea: give DT1 the ability to remove specific feedbacks from DT on: January 01, 2020, 07:11:59 PM
I actually think the trust system is pretty darn good just the way it is..
Sure it isn't absolutely perfect in every aspect but nothing is..

My biggest gripe with the trust system is the way it is tied to merits and voting.. Just because a user can earn a lot of merits doesn't mean, to me, that they are necessarily a good choice to have a huge amount of voting power..

Merit is supposed to be for "good posts", and to rank up..  
When I give some merits it's hard for me not to think "How is this user going to use these merits to vote? Am I sure I want to give this user more voting power? Do I like the way this user votes?"
Their might also should be a cap on the amount of voting power any account has like 2000-3000 merits voting weight cap..

I also don't much like the way your inclusions list is one and the same as your voting list..
Maybe I would like to include someone but not vote for them to be on DT1, or the opposite..

And, votes not being anonymous is pretty silly to me..
Their would be less voter intimidation if votes were anonymous as in Secret Ballot Voting which is basically the standard of voting practices across the free-ish world for good reason IMO..


In any case, overall this new DT system is doing pretty good..
It has gotten and will continue to get better with time..

I'm just fed up with what I consider Trust abuse, and I noticed another thing: the moment veteran members receive their first negative feedback (on something controversial), they often quickly collect a few more negatives. It's as if people are waiting for someone else to make the first move.

A lot of the time when someone recieves a negative tag, that is quite agreeable, many users will dogpile in replicating the same rating..
Maybe because they want the same reason for a neg-rating to have more weight, or possibly in many cases just to make it look like they are doing something important but really they are just copy-pasting to build their own perceived reputation..

A user could get like -5 this way for something as simple as asking for a no-collateral loan..


Also often times when a user gets their first negative rating they completely freak out and do a lot of stupid stuff because of it, fly off the handle, and wind up making their situations even worse and getting more tags for their resulting tantrum such as personal attacks or name calling any responders who don't agree with them right off the bat, or resort to less than respectable actions in their fury in multiple possible ways..
1458  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system on: December 31, 2019, 11:13:00 PM
so why not

Probably need someone to make a website for the quiz or find something that will work..
You have any ideas?
1459  Economy / Reputation / Re: [overview] List of relevant ~Lauda based topics & DT/trust statistics on: December 31, 2019, 10:40:11 PM
Assuming your top 2 charts include all DT members, I think it could be useful if you included another statistic specifically for all users who are/were DT1 only..
Better yet for users who qualified for DT1 even if they didn't make the cut to 100, but that may be more difficult to get data for..
1460  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system on: December 31, 2019, 07:59:46 PM
I have been thinking for a while that it would be fun, and possibly even productively educational, to create a big online test/quiz about all of the various systems, etiquette, and history of Bitcointalk..

I have looked a few times at "free online quiz makers" but they all have too many limits on how many questions you can make and how many responses can be made etc..

I think a beginner level test would be good to include just the most pertinent and commonly useful knowledge, and then a very difficult advanced test that most users could be proud to get even 90% on for a good challenge especially if many users would be interested in submitting questions/answers multiple choice style to get a wide range of questions..
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