Ah ok, ora ha più senso. Quando sento menzionare i minimi penso sempre automaticamente ai minimi di questo macro ciclo e quindi la mia testa va direttamente a $15k-16k, valori che sarei estremamente sorpreso di vedere nuovamente. Ma dato che c'è gente che aspetta ancora i $3-5k tutto è possibile 
Se il "crash" fosse a $24k sarebbe un bicchier d'acqua visto quello a cui siamo abituati.

Sarei curioso di sapere cosa ne pensi dell'azionario, mi sembra strano che continui a salire con questo ritmo, mi pare veramente esagerato...

So? The US don't understand they're just throwing away a huge opportunity to make a ton of money and bring even more money. At this point is clear that the SEC is abusing its power because they don't make clear rules, they don't give explanations, they don't answer, the only thing is trying to fine/sue/shut down exchanges just because someone else told them to do it. Several congressmen are asking for a serious investigation within the SEC.

I don't understand why you shouldn't talk about bitcoin with them: they don't necessarily need to invest but at least being aware of what bitcoin is, why it was invented, and what its purpose is, all that is extremely important and useful because if they actually care about money, finance, and their future, they'll start asking themselves some questions that probably they never considered before.

Of course, especially in forums like this, it's always better not to give any personal information to strangers but at the same time let's also try to be real: kidnapping someone is a serious crime, if someone does something like that it's because they know that person has a lot of money, so someone in that position should always be careful. I don't think someone would blindly kidnap the average Joe to steal $2k of BTC.

I'm sure brides dream many things for their wedding day, things that maybe they have been dreaming around since they were kids, and I'm pretty sure bitcoin is not on that list If you want to buy BTC as future investment for you, as a couple, that's a great idea, but I would never give her BTC on wedding day, choose something that you know she will actually love. Don't screw up that day.

First of all I want to say that I don't like Biden, at all, I see him as one of the most useless presidents in the US history, oftentimes I even forget he's the president... Anyway, even thought the US are one of the most important countries in the world they have no way to kill bitcoin while the rest of the world is actually starting to embrace it. It's actually even counterproductive for them, it would be a decision that doesn't make any any sense, they have everything to lose, not bitcoin.

Stiamo parlando di valori attorno ai $15k-16k quindi? Per minimi ti riferisci proprio a quanto successo post exit scam di FTX? Perché se vedi un ritorno a $28k vuol dire praticamente perdere il 50% del valore, sarebbe una calo veramente importante e mi sentirei di dire esagerato in assenza di eventi veramente catastrofici.

Sono d'accordo con conilmionome, il punto forte di questo ETF, se tutto andrà bene e sarà approvato, sarà la facilità d'uso. Anch'io penso che molti americani si facciano non una ma dieci domande prima di aprire un account su un exchange perché magari fa la fine di FTX, magari la SEC gli sta addosso come con Binance, magari c'è Coinbase che ha commissioni troppo alte... Insomma per l'americano medio comprare BTC non è facile come per un europeo.

Sappiamo tutti che questo forum alla fine è una specie di Internet Explorer 

Based on my personal experience I would say Binance and Kraken but I also like KuCoin when I need to buy some altcoin that is not yet on Binance. A long time ago I used Bitstamp, never had any problem, I know they're still around so I guess they're solid. Anyway remember that you're supposed to buy and move your funds out of the exchange, don't use it as a wallet, it's called exchange for a reason.

For sure you chose a good moment to buy your first bitcoin thanks to the recent (small) dump, so congratulations, especially for buying a full bitcoin, not too many people can do something like that nowadays. Regarding being in profit soon, who knows? You know you have to wait, and that's good, but you must be prepared to wait also 1 year or even more, so if I were you I would mentally prepare for this kind of scenario.

Knowledge is never useless. That is actually one of the worst sentences I've ever read on this forum. Many people make/inherit big sums of money but have no knowledge of how money and finance work and they end up completely broke. If you have knowledge about bitcoin it probably means that you have a better knowledge of money than the average Joe so probably you should know how to save and invest money in order to get more satoshi/bitcoin.

Diciamo che in quanto italiani partivamo avvantaggiati per un semplice motivo: sappiamo cosa sia una pizza

Già il semplice fatto che le nostre pizze non fossero fatte di riso/insalata/torte/noodles/frutta ci ha dato un considerevole vantaggio. Se avessimo perso per qualche pizza del genere questo forum avrebbe un serio problema a livello culinario  

You're such a good friend 

I'm a hodler but I understand people who decide to sell. Waiting for years and years can take a pretty important psychological toll on some people, especially if they invested more than what they were supposed to do and now they need the money. You're if the wait is worth, well, it depends: those who sold at $60-65k for sure now are in better position than the hodlers, they had the chance to buy 2-3 times more bitcoin than what they had before. I would say that usually hodling is the best strategy but sometimes we need to understand that maybe we should also sell something, maybe like 20-30%.

Chiaro, ognuno da ai soldi un valore diverso però in casi del genere ci sono degli elementi in comune per tutti, e quegli elementi sono molto chiari: ne vale la pena? Anche 200k euro sono una bella cifra ma se una persona ha un lavoro, una famiglia, un'auto, figli che vanno alla scuola, etc etc, vale la pena mollare tutto e trasferirsi per risparmiare 52k euro di tasse? Personalmente direi di noi. Se la stessa persona potesse risparmiare 500k euro di tasse beh, già lì il discorso cambia. Poi dipende anche di chi stiamo parlando: se se già multimilionario ti importa relativamente risparmiare sulle tasse, se se uno che fino a 5 anni prima guadagnava 1k euro al mese e poi ti ritrovi milionario la vicenda cambia di nuovo.

Quando ti trasferisci all'estero devi farlo minimo per 1 anno e vivere nella nuova nazione per almeno 184 giorni l'anno altrimenti non vieni riconosciuto come residente fiscale in un altro paese (a grandi linee è così, poi approfondire se vuoi). Come dicevo il minimo è appunto 1 anno, se tu fai esattamente un anno all'estero e poi rientri in Italia è altamente probabile che tu venga indagato per esterovestizione dato che la cosa sarebbe estremamente sospetta.

Ah, io pensavo che quei post li scrivessi prima su Word o qualcosa di simile, io non mi fiderei mai a scriverli direttamente nel browser, troppe volte in passato li ho persi perché succedeva qualcosa (browser che si riavvia/blocca ad esempio). Fossi in te per il futuro eviterei di scrivere direttamente nel forum, non voglio neanche immaginare il tempo che ti ci vuole per mettere tutto insieme, figurarsi farlo una seconda volta 

The only good advice is not even actually an advice, it's just a hope: hope that you carefully valued pros and cons, hope that you're aware that cryptos are very volatile, including bitcoin, and hope that you won't need the money you invested in the short term, otherwise you may have to sell at loss. Besides all that, I think it's a good idea, especially in the long term.

I have nothing against the Discord channel, I simply don't use it, let's say that I don't find very practical to ask tens of forum users to create a Discord account and join the server just to upload the pizzas and being able to vote, specially if the server is used by 20-30 people max, as you said. Besides of course the whole voting system that leaves plenty of space to cheat on Discord. Unfortunately the more I ask info, the less all this makes sense to me.