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1841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: June 07, 2022, 05:34:27 PM
If the series will be tied at 2-2 before game 5, then the Warriors might win in game 7 if this will reach to game 7.

Warriors had a great chance because they are good at home, but let us not forget what Celtics did in the ECF, they beat the Heat on the road in game 7, so they are not a team that we can underestimate as they have a lot of weapons to beat their opponent. I can't wait to see game 3, I like to see how the Celtics would respond after they got shut down by the Warriors in the previous game.

That's a tough thing to say because honestly, this series we're now watching is really interesting and we cannot say that our speculations will come true. The Warriors are good at playing in their home, no doubt but the Celtics are also good playing in road games so it's a tough challenge for both of the teams. Game 3 is still a mystery because we cannot really say who will win because the Celtics aren't reliable at home but the Warriors will surely adjust too because it's not their home. I'm excited to see what would happen next game.
1842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded! on: June 06, 2022, 07:47:18 PM

It does not end but will be minimized, that's what the government wants because they cannot totally eradicate gambling. Their decision is for the benefits of the poor, poor people has to spend on their needs as they cannot afford to gamble, maybe they will just gamble a small amount as their excuse but they tend to gambling addicting which we are trying to prevent.

Easy access to gambling by means of digital money, gcash and paymaya if I'm not mistaken offer direct transactions for anyone to play directly from the previous E-Sabong website, I remember someone from my neighborhood that instead of using the Ayuda from the government the father of a certain family used big portions of the money to gamble and instead of having a much longer supplies; they needed to ask assistance again from their near side relatives for some extended help.
I believe gambling won't never be stopped even if the government tighten its rules. But given the case you said, using Ayuda for his gambling addiction, i guess that needs to be given discipline and even proper sanction from the government. Whether we deny it or not, those cash assistance from the government are even the fuels to gamble more especially that they don't hardly earned that money that is why its very easy for them to lose.

Gambling has been always a problem in any given country, well not all but mostly. Even if the government will take harsh measures, the people can still find a way where and when to gamble because there will be always a gambling site/venue where they can gamble even if it's already illegal.

The problem in society nowadays, people tend to look for easy money that's why they chose to gamble even if the chance of losing is much more greater than winning. That's also why they are easily get scammed.
1843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: June 06, 2022, 07:26:30 PM
Pretty much disappointed on the performance of Kambosos here. He was really schooled by Haney's super jab and defense as he was not hit clean in this fight. You can see his face still clean after 12 rounds while George face is somewhat battered by that stiff jab the Haney throws all throughout the fight. I guess Kambosos 15 minute of fame is over now. The belt is going back to the US and for sure American fighters are now going to chase Haney.

The total scores say it all, not even close. Yeah, we were expecting that Kambosos with his aggressiveness will give Haney trouble, but it didn't happen, it was a one-sided fight and I think there's no need for a rematch on this fight as it's very obvious that we will still see the same winner in the rematch.

Yes, but it seems that George Kambosos is going to execute the rematch clause and wanted to get his revenge and so most likely in the next 6 months or early next year we might see the rematch, he specifically says that it's on Australia again. But who knows maybe it's better for George not to fight in front of his fans and should go to US just like what he did when he upset Teofimo Lopez.

That's if Devin Haney will agree to give him a rematch, for sure Haney knows that it would be a total waste of time giving Kambosos his rematch because as you guys said, the score says it all. And if let's say that Haney will agree, I doubt he will agree to have the fight in Australia again. It would be held in Las Vegas where he lives, he is now the undisputed champion and Kambosos ain't got a voice now.
1844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: June 06, 2022, 06:48:02 PM
That being said, I believe that Mark Magsayo can do that job as he's hardworking, he's really determined and he doesn't talk a lot as he wants to put more action than talking. If he's consistent enough then time will come that he can put his name on this division as a King. Nevertheless, Vargas is first on his list being a defending champion in this weight class.
Magsayo should do his best to defend the belt, this is the first time he will defend the belt and of course we don’t want to see him giving up easily. Vargas is not an easy opponent, they are both good boxer so only those who are more focused and have a good strategy will win. Magsayo is still on a good position here, in just a month they will face each other and i hope Magsayo is more prepared for this.

I think Mark Magsayo can defend his belt successfully, Vargas may be hard to get past but I'm sure he can. Magsayo is indeed lucky to have Vargas as his first opponent as the latter can give him a challenge and perhaps some more experience too because Vargas has been in plenty of battles already. Also, I'm not worried about the Philippine pride because I know how dedicated he is. Anyway, I'm already excited to see the fight next month.
1845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 05, 2022, 09:53:32 PM
The first game was already concluded, Converge failed to have their first win in the league, they loss to ROS with a very close score.

77-79 Final score.

Now, let's go to the 2nd game, TNT vs Magnolia, currently tied now with both 42 points after the first half.
I didn't see Mikey Williams in the scorebox, I think he didn't play, but I still put my bet on the TNT.


Yeah, no Mikey Williams as he is negotiating for a pay increase  Smiley. I think he deserve that after what he has shown in the last conference, he almost broke the record of Benjie Paras of being the only player to have awarded the ROY and MVP in the same season.

Watching the game right now and bet on the under 176.5 and it looks like i'm going to win this one because it is a very low scoring one.

No Mikey Williams, no problem for the TNT, they manage to beat the Magnolia hotshots and I'm happy to be able to put my bet on them after the first half. I got 1.95 odds for ML, not 2.00 but that's alright because the start of my PBA betting this season is a success.
1846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: June 05, 2022, 09:20:58 PM
I think and hope the dubs bounce back but reading so often here that the Warriors "dominted the first 3 quarters" or something like that is so wrong.

Celtics actually won the first half .

That will be the game plan for game 2 as well, keep the score close and try to play superior defence in the final quarter. Because you cant deny the Warriors for 48 minutes but for 12, as we can see, is more than possible. I hope Warriors will get a big win but everything is possible, even losing big.

Go Warrios, dubs in 6 !  Grin

Game 2 win is possible, they will have a big bounce back and I believe they will start strong to now allow the Celtics to have their own run. the series is just getting interesting, one win by the Warriors and people will not doubt them anymore. I know everyone is excited to watch this game because we are going to find out if Warriors can even the series or they'll be in a 0-2 hole.
1847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: June 05, 2022, 01:37:48 PM
Pretty much disappointed on the performance of Kambosos here. He was really schooled by Haney's super jab and defense as he was not hit clean in this fight. You can see his face still clean after 12 rounds while George face is somewhat battered by that stiff jab the Haney throws all throughout the fight. I guess Kambosos 15 minute of fame is over now. The belt is going back to the US and for sure American fighters are now going to chase Haney.

The total scores say it all, not even close. Yeah, we were expecting that Kambosos with his aggressiveness will give Haney trouble, but it didn't happen, it was a one-sided fight and I think there's no need for a rematch on this fight as it's very obvious that we will still see the same winner in the rematch.

9 out of 10, Haney will beat Kambosos anytime of the day. And Devin made George look amateurish in that fight, Lol. You don't know what Kambosos is trying to accomplished, is she doing the Philly shell stance? with his elbow outside? Just like what Romero did against Tank Davis. But this time, George didn't adapt and just used one strategy, that is try to overwhelm Haney which is very obvious in the first 3 rounds that it is going to work and his corner didn't give him good advise.

Kambasos is a heavy hitter, however, he is not fast enough to hit Haney, and with Haney's perfect jab, it hurt Kambasos and lost his confidence to get inside and be more aggressive. I think he already knows that he will lose the fight, it's just bad for him because he didn't make the right adjustment so the fight ended up a one sided fight.
1848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 05, 2022, 12:54:20 PM
The first game was already concluded, Converge failed to have their first win in the league, they loss to ROS with a very close score.

77-79 Final score.

Now, let's go to the 2nd game, TNT vs Magnolia, currently tied now with both 42 points after the first half.
I didn't see Mikey Williams in the scorebox, I think he didn't play, but I still put my bet on the TNT.
1849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: June 05, 2022, 12:30:31 PM
Pretty much disappointed on the performance of Kambosos here. He was really schooled by Haney's super jab and defense as he was not hit clean in this fight. You can see his face still clean after 12 rounds while George face is somewhat battered by that stiff jab the Haney throws all throughout the fight. I guess Kambosos 15 minute of fame is over now. The belt is going back to the US and for sure American fighters are now going to chase Haney.

The total scores say it all, not even close. Yeah, we were expecting that Kambosos with his aggressiveness will give Haney trouble, but it didn't happen, it was a one-sided fight and I think there's no need for a rematch on this fight as it's very obvious that we will still see the same winner in the rematch.
1850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: June 04, 2022, 09:56:06 PM
As for Mark, even if he is the underdog, he can still win this fight.

Wait, Mark Magsayo is the underdog in terms of what?

Stats? Tale-of-the-Tape? Age? Winning record? Number of TKO? Technical analysis? Power (is this even can measure?)? Strength? The difficulty of training?

I looked for the odds preview on this fight but found nothing. Why others are already considering Magsayo as an underdog here?


As of now, the sports bookies haven't opened some line regarding this fight. Maybe the bookies will update the odds 2 week before the schedule of fight and if the lines will open soon, I bet Magsayo is the one who will be the favorite to win by the sport bookies as he is the champion.

I believe that is just a misunderstanding, as you can see @Kemarit used the word "if".


There's no betting odds yet so we cannot conclude that Magsayo is the underdog.

Saying Magsayo is an underdog is just like underestimating him as a champion, it's very rare in boxing that the Champion is the underdog, unless that champion's capabiilty is a big questionable. Well, let us not come into conclusion yet, speculate but wait for the official betting odds.
1851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: June 04, 2022, 09:39:03 PM

I think everyone is riding with the Warriors again, but I also believe that some people might be tempted to put an ML bet on the Boston Celtics because they beat the Warriors in game 1 and it's possible that they could do it again.

That's what I thought too until ESPN said Boston Celtics has the higher chance of winning the Finals this year against the Warriors. People became skeptical about it at first until the result of the game 1. Some people will now turn to root for the Celtics after game 1, but for me the Warriors still has a higher chances to win the title, though I've loved to see Tatum and Brown and especially for Horford to win their first ring.
But who knows, If the Celtics win again in game 2, then that would be very difficult situation for the Warriors and the Celtics will most likely to win the title this year.

Game 2 is very crucial for the Warriors, they can't afford to allow the Celtics to dominate them again, because even with just one quarter, anything can change and it will favor the Celtics. 2nd game of defending their home court, I'm expecting a blowout win here.
1852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA Finals 2022 - Warriors vs Celtics. on: June 04, 2022, 01:12:58 PM
After the first match, you can confirm the old basketball proverb that fans are attracted by attack and the championship is won by defense.
Defense alone cannot win games, it's just that the Celtics have shot very well in the 4th quarter and their 3-point shooting is very accurate. I would believe that Celtics has dominated the Warriors if they are in control in the whole game, what I see is that they only control the 4th quarter, so they need to prove it again in game 2.

Celtics do not only have the defense, they also have the offense that's why they are already in the NBA Finals. yes, the Warriors are the popular team because they have been in the NBA Finals many times and have won multiple championships already, but we cannot neglect what the Celtics did in the playoffs especially int he NBA Finals.
1853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: June 04, 2022, 12:39:54 PM
As for Mark, even if he is the underdog, he can still win this fight.

Wait, Mark Magsayo is the underdog in terms of what?

Stats? Tale-of-the-Tape? Age? Winning record? Number of TKO? Technical analysis? Power (is this even can measure?)? Strength? The difficulty of training?

I looked for the odds preview on this fight but found nothing. Why others are already considering Magsayo as an underdog here?


As per tale of the tape, both are undefeated but Vargas has the height and reach advantage and has more experience. KO percentage is almost the same, 67% for Magsayo, 63% for Vargas.

The fight is a month to go, and maybe as we get closer, crypto sports bookies might open their line here. Maybe this is not as well known as other fights that have a line already. But definitely, this will be one hell of a fight.

Height and reach advantage but still, if those are only the advantages of Vargas, I would never consider Magsayo as an underdog.

I think the odds will just be equal or not that wide. Even though I'm trying to understand the sentiment of others that Vargas is the favorite, I can't really say that's the situation here. Magsayo is a Champion and regardless of whether Vargas is more experienced, that's not the basis.

But you are right, we have to wait for the official odds to be released to see if our speculation is right on whether Magsayo is the Favorite, Underdog or equal.


Magsayo is the favorite and yet we thought that Magsayo will not be the favorite, I think there's something wrong with that guess. We will find out once the odds are release, but for now, I would respect Magsayo and believe that as a champ, he will be the favorite to win this fight.
1854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: June 04, 2022, 12:25:38 PM

We never know, but although I like the Boston Celtics, I still think that the Warriors will take game 2 as this series will be boring if the Warriors their 2 home games. They have plenty of time to watch the tape, with that plenty of time, they can device a plan and make the right adjustment in game 2.

I agree with that, this is a no brainer, Warriors will win and will cover the spread.

Warriors are still the public play, but whatever, I would keep it simple, they need to win to even the series and has to win by a good margin, at least 10 points should be good enough, and they should not allow to melt in the 4th quarter.

I think everyone is riding with the Warriors again, but I also believe that some people might be tempted to put an ML bet on the Boston Celtics because they beat the Warriors in game 1 and it's possible that they could do it again.
1855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: June 02, 2022, 11:31:48 AM
So it's game 1 tomorrow night, for sure many are going to ride on the Warriors side because they have the tools to win the championship again.-3.5 is the opening line for them, but I a guess putting a bet higher for a better odds might not heard us.

So I'm going with the -4.5, current odds: 1.98.

Best of luck to all bettors,  Smiley

A -4.5 handicap on the Warriors side is not that bad along with its odds, for sure there will be a lot of bettors who will ride that spread and odds and of course that includes me Cheesy Though there are also bettors who believed that the Celtics will take the first win tomorrow but I think their chances are just slim because Game 1 will be played at the Warriors homecourt. Well, anyway, maybe that will happen. Good luck folks!
1856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: June 01, 2022, 07:34:07 PM
Although GSW appears to be the favorite team in this final series, Celtics were able to win against the Heat after fierce matches and shows that they are not an easy opponent. There will be no easy matches in the final series and i think the Celtics can make a surprise.
Yes, they win against the Heat and that's what matters. However, Heat is now the same brand of the Warriors, the Warriors are more on a team play, they move the ball very well and not only that, their shooting and defense are way better than the Heat as well.

And I will add to that, the defensive players of the Warriors (Igoudala, Porter, Payton) will likely return in Game 1. Not sure how would the Celtics respond to every game but I'm sure and I know that they can adjust well according to the Warriors play.

The Celtics made their revenge by defeating the Brooklyn Nets, Milwaukee Bucks, and Miami Heat respectively and that is certainly not an easy feat to achieve because those teams are one of the heaviest teams in the West including the defending champion. And now that they are in the Finals, can they defeat the Warriors though? That's what I want to find out.
1857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: PROS AND CONS OF CRRYPTOGAMBLING. on: June 01, 2022, 05:07:16 PM
But in real life, people somehow need to gamble too because its just a form of entertainment but in a business way. And you need funds for you to be able to gamble, whether you win or lose in the end.
As a matter of fact, some people gamble for fun, but some people also still see it as a means of earning until they have lost often and often or they become addicted. Nevertheless, gambling should still be for fun and not a means of making money which is not but a means of addiction.

All will be good if that is the case but unfortunately, the majority of gamblers in casino or in different avenues aren't looking to have some fun because their goal is to double or even triple their capital. They know the risks and that most of the time they will lose than win and that is inevitable but they still rely on hope that maybe, just maybe, this day would be different and they could bring home huge cash. Eventually, what will happen is the exact opposite.
1858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: June 01, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Yep, the team got no other choice as well but to try for that shot, who else is more capable to do that? It's just too bad for Jimmy Butler because he was the one who forced to make that shot and now it's him who can't move on with that because that cost them a fishing trip this summer. The whole roster cannot afford for an overtime because they were so tired already of transitioning, that situation was a do or die and his instincts were telling him to do that shot because it was wide open.
I used a swear word when he took the shot because I was not expecting it. He has the time to wait for his teammates (20 seconds remaining) but I guess all he wants is to win like what he said in the post-game interview. Win or nothing. With just a bit of an arc from that shot, it could've been a good one.
I don't blame him, I actually admired his confidence to do the final shot because we all know it will be a blame game if other players do it and it won't be good for their team's chemistry for next year. He'd rather take all the blame. What could he be thinking right now? The "what if's" of the game, maybe.

Same here, that move he made surely shocked me because it was too sudden and we know that there's still enough time as they could make a better shot than that. But yea, like as you said, he'd rather carry all the blame because he knows that his team mates couldn't sleep that night if they were the ones who made that mistake. Anyway, the good about their team is there's no blaming game and instead they cheered Butler up not to overthink it because he indeed tried his best.
1859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: May 31, 2022, 04:10:03 PM
Waited for ages to get this trilogy fight. But now I am not that excited. Canelo agreed to this fight only after knowing that Golovkin's prime days are over. The trilogy fight is occurring 4 years after Canelo vs Golovkin 2. Ideally Canelo should have agreed to the fight in 2019, or the latest by 2020. Now Golovkin is already 40 years old and his prime days may be over. As the odds predict, I am not expecting much from the Kazakh legend now. He maybe able to put a tough fight and may last the full 12 rounds, and that is all. 

As expected, there will be comments like these. This shows how active we are in the world of boxing because we can say that a certain fight is or was a mismatch including this trilogy. Even if Canelo himself won't admit that he's not afraid of GGG but it's so clear and he cannot deny that fact that GGG is one of those boxers who pushed him into corners and had a hard time.

That is also why Canelo vocally said there's no need for a trilogy because he won the 2 fights when in-fact the 1st match was a draw and it was a close bout. Now, Canelo agreed because GGG is already at his verge of retiring this industry and the latter is not that fully capable of defeating Canelo unlike if he had given a trilogy early 2020.

I believe that if Canelo will win, the people and the fans won't be impressed about it. But who knows, maybe GGG can still manage to give Canelo another upset followed by that defeat against Bivol.

I go with your statement, Even Canelo will win this fight. There's no impact on his name anymore, unlike if GGG wins this fight the hypes

before he retires his gloves will really impacting to his career. We don't know if how the fight will be ended and how both fighters will

comes up with their respective strategy, as long as we will all be entertained it's good enough in finally see the trilogy of this fight,

it's long been waited and now it's finally here.

Exactly, people know the story behind this trilogy and winning for the 2nd time in this trilogy won't give him much benefit and hype because he will be just remembered as the man who got defeated and seek vengeance towards the man who's already at the verge of retiring as a pro boxer.

For me, I would love to see GGG winning for the last time before he decides to hang up his gloves. I certainly believe this is his last battle and the last route of the Big Drama.
1860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: May 31, 2022, 03:32:49 PM

Boston came from a great series after another, facing KD's Nets at the first round, then the defending champ in the second round.

Now, they just currently beat the Heat in the ECF finals. It will be nicer if they will draw the fight, Tatum, Brown and Smart against

Curry, Thompson and Green a great core who really carries the entire team up to these final. Both teams will again lean to how those stars

will tower both offense and the defense.

I would like to see them winning the championship this year too since they are really into breaking some great walls to reach this far. But there's one more torn road they need to get through which is the healthy GSW. will they come up with another upset victory against GSW or are they will gonna be like the Mavs in the WCF?

I see the Boston Celtics will really have the chance if they start winning the first two games of the series but if they gonna lose, then it will be hard to come back when you are against the splash brothers.

Can't see which one will win yet but when talking about advantages, surely the Warriors have those advantages as they're the ones who's healthy and have a fresh feet this Finals because they have rested good while waiting the ECF winner. Aside from that, the first two games will be played at Chase Center and we know how impressive is the Warriors when it comes to their homecourt and they have these players who is hard to guard and their offense is entirely good.

About Boston Celtics, they will have some struggle especially in the Game 1 because they will be the ones who will adjust more to the Warriors power and capabilities. If we're talking about player capabilities, Celtics have the handicaps and disadvantage about that because almost everyone in the present roster of Warriors is stepping up while the Celtics side only have 3 or 4 good valuable players.
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