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1921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: May 18, 2022, 04:18:34 PM
Tomorrow's game will be between GSW and Mavs. Would it have the same home court win or Mavs will snatch game one and take

the early series advantage?
This remains to be seen though, but I like the Warriors to win the series, they are now the favorites so I'll go with the line set by the bookies.
Mavericks snatching a win on the GSW's homecourt is unlikely to happen especially on Game 1 where most of the Warriors roster especially the Splash brothers are really used in their homecourt. But yes, this is just a speculation and only time will reveal which one of them will have a lead on the series.
1922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: May 18, 2022, 02:37:24 PM
I'm surprised with the poll result so far.

we have 27 posters who voted for this fight and Kambasos got 51.9% of the total votes, or 14/27.
Bookies may make Haney a heavy favorite, but we posters here are bettors who see which figher offers a good value.

Oh well, it sports bookies and the boxing fans in this community is not agreeing, it simply means that the fight is going to be very close and really hard to predict.

As been mentioned before, the styles of this two fighters are very contrasting and we don't know which style will be dominant. Or if the other side will adjust in the fight to counter the other. So for me this is a very difficult to predict and who to choose on betting.
Yes, I know that because there are also some users here in this forum are not interested in answering those said polls, that's why we can't really tell that there are more Kambosos's side here than Haney. As of now, the discussion poll has been tied.

The way I'm seeing it, the people and boxing spectators are still not sure on who have the higher hand on this match because both of them have their own unique skill set which is truly different to one another. That's how interesting the fight is Cheesy
1923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: May 18, 2022, 02:10:36 PM
I surely hope so that Donaire have another strategy this time because he should know that getting into a toe-to-toe fight with Inoue is certainly not a good idea at all. I think his only choice is to pull a KO on the early rounds so that his chances to defeat the latter will somehow increase and be smart not to exhaust all stamina and energy he needed in the following rounds of the fight because that is where the monster will go for him just like in the last fight.

Most of us here who followed Donaire already know how lethal that counter left hook of his which I think will still be his weapon of choice, he only needs to land it at the perfect timing and you are right, he needs to watch that gas tank of his so that he still has some left in the championship rounds which is very critical for both fighters as either one of them will go for that knockout.

Indeed! That counter left hook will still be his specialty and weapon of choice as he's more used to it, now is not the right time to have some experiment on what should be his special card to Inoue, he should use what is on his possession and his best asset. Finding the perfect timing when to land it will be difficult because if he cannot land it properly, Inoue will just shake it just like what he did in their previous fight.

I still believe that Donaire can still defeat Inoue with a right pace and timing.
1924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: May 17, 2022, 08:55:10 PM
PJ Tucker, Danny Green, McGee are few of those lucky players,  Grin.

So let's see if Tucker can make it back to back with different teams, this will be a good accomplishment, but they have to go first with Celtics and then on the other brackets winner. I will go with the under on this first game, 203.5 at 1.93.

It would not be so easy for them like in the 2nd round because Celtics are a complete different team that they beat before. In fact, Celtics now are the favorite to win the series, so I wouldn't be surprise if they'll steal game 1 in this series.

Heat has to win the first 2 games if they want to have a good chance of winning the series. Heat surely have a plan against Tatum, they'll find a way to slow him down but at the same time, I'm worried about Butler because it seemed like no one could defend him from the Celtics roster.

Same here, I believe that the Miami Heat have the upper hand now against the Boston Celtics because they are much more experienced team and their rotation is much more different. While the latter will have some time to adjust and that includes losses on the series as well but they have to find a way to limit Jimmy Butler's performance because if not, they'll be just like the 76ers.
1925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Celtics vs Bucks 2nd round Series. on: May 17, 2022, 08:31:02 PM
Boston Celtics now finally end the series. I don't know what happened to Milwaukee Bucks.

Still, this series is hard to predict at the start as both teams are doing well. The Celtics will now face the Miami Heat at the Eastern Conference Finals.

Salute to Giannis. He did his best. Milwaukee Bucks will come strong next season.
Giannis has always been doing his best in all his games, but i guess today's season is not really for his team. Bucks wilted and made bad moves, and end up defeated by the Celtics. I guess many have expected that Bucks will win this game, and that Celtics are the heavy underdog. But oh, it turned out that the prophecy of Celtics' coach made into reality, and that they end up the game sweeter than in their previous games.
Bucks were able to give a good fight on the Celtics despite missing Middleton, so even if they lose, it's not really that bad because they tried their best to be in the conference finals.  Giannis is the best player of the Bucks, but no enough support from his teammates, against the Celtics team where everyone makes a great contribution.

Yeah Middleton would have definitely changed the series.  Too much on giannis to lift the heavy bag by himself.  Jrue is good, real good but not enough to spell giannis on a down game or 2.  Boston surprised me and taytum is top 10 in the league, possibly top 5 right now.  Dude is unbelievable.

It was Grant Williams who played impressively all of a sudden, that was surely a big help for the team so that Tatum can focus well on defending Giannis and can go for an offense anytime as they also have Jaylen Brown waiting.

I also thought that Middleton will be forced to play on the Game 7, he was rumored to play though but it didn't happen. Also, I don't think he can be a big help for now because of his condition. He should recover well this summer so that they will have a fresh start again next season.
1926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: May 17, 2022, 08:07:35 PM
Well, the truth is, Kambosos could start with a good strategy that would be to give a KO, but I think it is a very risky strategy, because he will spend a lot of energy and I know that he can do it, but Haney has a very good preparation, and also one of the main characteristics of it is resistance.

If we focus on the physical characteristics and the styles of the boxers we see that there is a combination of styles that, if they had each one, would be even more complete.
That is exactly why I want these kind of match-up because these boxers are the kind who wouldn't take an easy defeat as they are both eager and willing to give their best shot in-order to have a sure win no matter what would cost them. I just surely hope this will be a clean fight though.

Either way, both boxers shouldn't be complacent to each other because they are both capable of giving a knockout punch. But on this fight, I won't deny that I'm with Haney.
I would like to have an idea of some kind of advantage that either of the two boxers could have in this fight, for me Kambosos has explosiveness and that at any moment he can give everything and have little resistance, that is where I think Haney will have all the advantage, because if he manages to contain everything from Kambosos it could be the best of all scenarios.

I have not seen the bets for this fight and I really do not want to see them yet, at least until May 28 that the fighters have shown something about themselves, their training or any other advance, to have an idea of what they are prepared for, so I can have a better judgement.

They both have their own advantages as well as the disadvantage side, that's why we are seeing Haney showing his training to the media in hopes that they could set a trap on Kambosos camp because it's also expected that the latter's camp will use that video to study his movements. But I think Haney's camp have another goal that's why they revealed their training on the media, to think it's very unlikely to see some scenario like that. It's up to them on who will be the smarter one and that would have more chance in winning the fight.
1927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: May 17, 2022, 07:41:13 PM
I have to agree with you on that, though I would support Magsayo but I can't help but notice his weakness. He has the power but he doesn't have the head movement that most great boxers do have, and his last win is not impressive, so he has a lot of convincing thing to do in this fight.
I think Magsayo will prepare stamina, defense pattern and whatever preparation he considers to cover all the shortcomings of every boxing match, I'm sure Magsayo is aware of his weak record from previous boxing fights so maybe for the next match he will deliver impressive wins.
I surely hope so, having a good defense against Vargas who is much taller than him will indeed be helpful because the latter's power shouldn't be underestimated. In terms of stamina, I know he can work for that because coach Freddie Roach is with him as well as the training needed. Defeating Vargas would be a good additional on his rapsheet and that record will help him get bigger fights in the future.
1928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: May 17, 2022, 07:20:16 PM
I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.

I also believe in that scenario, if he can pull the trigger and KO Inoue it should be on the earlier round, just like what happened last time

he did tried to box Inoue but the monster manage to take all those solid punches. In the last few rounds of the fight, Donaire loses his stamina

and that's the cue for Inoue to start throwing solid punches and take advantage of the slowness of Donaire. Hope not to see the same thing,

and the camp of Donaire already got good strategy to win this one.
I surely hope so that Donaire have another strategy this time because he should know that getting into a toe-to-toe fight with Inoue is certainly not a good idea at all. I think his only choice is to pull a KO on the early rounds so that his chances to defeat the latter will somehow increase and be smart not to exhaust all stamina and energy he needed in the following rounds of the fight because that is where the monster will go for him just like in the last fight.
1929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA _ Phoenix Suns vs Dallas Mavericks - 2nd round on: May 15, 2022, 03:22:08 PM
This series has really become about home court advantage. There is still a lot of time in the second half but I already stopped watching after Suns trailed by as many as 20 points. I'm still rooting for the Suns to wrap it up but that's unlikely to happen in Dallas. See you in game 7. I expect that to be more physical and intense.

Finally, a game 7 from this NBA season's playoffs would be amazing to watch because every move and decision matters in that crucial game. I wonder how will the Phoenix Suns survive this since even though their players are complete, they still lack something when Luka and the Mavs are playing well. Since this is the playoffs anything could happen and most likely it would be an unexpected turn of events. nevertheless, we thank both teams for giving us such good games to watch that we will gonna missed after the NBA championship games.
I think Suns will still win, however, I have a feeling that the game 7 will be a close game and therefore Suns will not be able to cover the spread. They played well on their respective home court this series, but game 7 is the last game, so they have to give everything they have.

If it's going to be a close game, then it's safe to bet on the Mavericks handicap, they are +6.5 now, I think it's a very attractive odds considering we are now in game 7. It's a Luka vs Booker show, and CP3 vs Brunson, all these players should play well so it's going to be a great game 7.

Good luck to all the bettors, don't forget to bet and watch the last game of the series.

BTW, some significant line movement.
Total open at 209.5, now only 205. (under is screaming)
1930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: May 15, 2022, 02:54:48 PM
I'm surprised with the poll result so far.

we have 27 posters who voted for this fight and Kambasos got 51.9% of the total votes, or 14/27.
Bookies may make Haney a heavy favorite, but we posters here are bettors who see which figher offers a good value.
1931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: May 15, 2022, 02:18:20 PM
Mark game against Rey was huge differnce in it.Mark was the unique game towards the other player.Nearly 60 percentage of the people expecting the good fight from the Mark.Mark was just 26 and had huge body to face the other person.Some think, it take Mark to fit at 30 years.But the mental fit is needed in game.

The upcoming fight between Magsayo vs Vargas, is not a walk in the park. During his fight against Russel, was strong in the first seven rounds. But he ran out of gas. He should work on his stamina, head movement and closing the distance. From 8 round -12 rounds, Magsayo was no longer impressive. He could not take advantage, against a one arm pugilist.

I have to agree with you on that, though I would support Magsayo but I can't help but notice his weakness. He has the power but he doesn't have the head movement that most great boxers do have, and his last win is not impressive, so he has a lot of convincing thing to do in this fight.
1932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: May 15, 2022, 01:57:29 PM

Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.

I hope he won't show that much right away, so he won't be the next target of the trade. Just kidding! But being the top pick, fans will expect something out from him, let see if the losing streak of Blackwater was already been changed after that win from Magnolia, and having a new guy who will help them from both sides.

We will see more on him (Rosser) compared to the other drafted players. Blackwater needs more help, so expect more minutes for this number one pick..

If Blackwater is really a farm team, then we shouldn't be surprised if he will get traded after seasons of playing with the team. Look, Bobby Ray Parks Jr. made Blackwater a good team before, but look what happened, he was traded to TNT but only played one season because he choose to play in B-League where he would get bigger contract.
1933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: May 15, 2022, 12:33:47 PM
I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.
1934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: May 15, 2022, 12:17:08 PM
Well, we can expect that because PBA are looking for a good prospect, star players in the universities. A good example is Robert Bollick  from UP, he has already become a star player in the PBA because he excel right away during his first season, so maybe we will see the same, and hopefully, they will be drafted in a weak teams to help them.

If I'm not wrong Robert Bolick is from San Beda of NCAA not from UP though i don't know where he go to school during his high school years.
Sorry, I'm wrong, I stand corrected, I thought he was from UP.
This video is the evidence, : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldYHqDpiAGA

Speaking of PBA draft, looks like this year's drafting is one of the shallowest ever because many players opted out of the draft like Justine Baltazar who pulled out his draft application because he will be playing in the Japan B league. Justine Baltazar was one of those player whom Blackwater is eyeing to be their number 1 pick.
Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.
1935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: May 15, 2022, 11:40:17 AM
Here we go to game 7, this series is very unpredictable. just like in game 6, Giannis could end the series because they have the home court advantage but it didn't happen, they were dominated by the Celtics, so let's see if they can make a surprise in game 7. Bucks won 2 already on the road, they are a team that should not be underestimated.
Celtics and Bucks always had that chance to be actually quite good series that could go to game 7, I am glad that it did. This game will be one of the most fun game 7's that we will watch in the playoffs this year probably.
yes, this series is fun to watch because it's very unpredictable, Celtics is a good team but hey lose twice already on their home court, so I cannot be too confident that they will win tomorrow, Bucks might upset them.

Heat and Warriors are already up, now Warriors are waiting for Suns vs Mavs which is a shock to me, it's not as close as Celtics vs Bucks normally, Suns should be winning that game probably and they were the better team and they had a great regular season, so seeing them going to game 7 is a weird one. I expect Suns to win this, so it wouldn't be as fun as the other game 7, but if Mavs somehow wins that will make that series more entertainingly ended.
I will be able to watch the next game but not the first game because it's too early.
I love the Suns though but I don't underestimate the Mavericks, so let's see which team will advance, for sure it's going to be a fun game.
1936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do Anyone Think Luna Will Recover? on: May 14, 2022, 09:33:01 PM
After seeing a big recovery from almost zero to $0.00675 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/terra-luna/). I came here to check if you guys are considering on buying this coin, and based on what I read, looks like the majority of you think that LUNA is already dead, so I'm not gonna touch it, just watch some update and do a timely action.
1937  Economy / Speculation / Re: Was $25K the bottom? on: May 14, 2022, 09:09:39 PM
For whatever reason, the market is bearish again. However, I'm not surprised with what happened, and not so surprised that bitcoin falls back to $28k again, it's the lowest I guess. It has slightly recovered back to $30k but it's struggling to stay, so I'll probably just prepare myself for another dump in the coming days.

IIRC, it was not only $6k, but bitcoin dump to $3k after it achieved a $20k ATH.
That happened after over a year from the date bitcoin reach its ATH.

So $20k to $3k, so it's possible to see at $10k price.
1938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: May 14, 2022, 08:42:48 PM
This might not be related to PBA but it's still basketball in the country. UP became the champion on this recent UAAP season 84.
After 34 years, they've became a champion again. Are there people here who have been tuning in on this league as well? I've just seen it on my feed so I've thought of sharing it here since it's also a league and basketball.
(https://sports.inquirer.net/462075/up-dethrones-ateneo-clinches-uaap-basketball-crown)

I'm watching it, mate. Not a fan of either UP or Ateneo but I really like the former to win the championship. Ateneo is full of good and spectacular players from their coaching staff to players that's why for a change, I really like UP to advance.

Actually, it's related to PBA since players from these universities are bound to end up signing as a PBA draftee.

But there are reports released recently that some expected prospects skip the PBA Draftee as those received offers from overseas to play.

Ateneo have everything in terms of what the team needs, though they are still the favorite to win this year's title but upset

take place almost identical when UP beats them from the regular season and breaks the winning streak of Ateneo. It's been 36 long years

before The Unibersidad ng Pilipinas win the title, perfect timing to bring the emotions high. Just still lingering in my ears, Cagulangan

for the win!! Grin
It's a big surprise for the crowd and the UP will claim the trophy and become a champion. And yes ateneo has the best line up when we talk about basketball they have many good players. But for now UP is the best they proved to us that they can best the top universities and strong team in terms of basketball and maybe this year UP stars player will have a chance to be drafted in PBA.

Well, we can expect that because PBA are looking for a good prospect, star players in the universities. A good example is Robert Bollick  from UP, he has already become a star player in the PBA because he excel right away during his first season, so maybe we will see the same, and hopefully, they will be drafted in a weak teams to help them.
1939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: May 12, 2022, 10:12:53 AM
Lol so many people been riding golden state all series.  Memphis covered 3 out of 4 games.  +5.5 at home is crazy odds.  Riding Memphis til they get booted or move on.  Team is legit good and shouldn't have been underdogs in any game at home this playoffs.  People overbet golden state

True, and they have a good lead in the first two quarters and the Warriors doesn't have any answer to their offensive rebound again.

Jaren Jackson continue his hot streak, pacing the Memphis team with 13 points already. Only Klay Thompson is scoring for the Warriors, Poole has 0 points and Curry has only 6 points. +5.5 bet for Memphis is looking good so far. But let's see if Curry will have an amazing second half.

What an unexpected game, I really thought that the Warriors would close the series today on Memphis but the Grizzlies stepped up to a whole new level. It's like they are just playing against a weaker team because the Warriors couldn't answer at all as Jackson, Bane and Jones kept on throwing threes everywhere and they managed to score 21 points each. The Warriors have forfeited the game on the 3rd quarter when they decided to sit the new big three of the GSW.

Question, is this because Steve Kerr wasn't there to help the team?
1940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 12, 2022, 09:54:43 AM
This just comes out

Ryan Garcia vs. Isaac ‘Pitbull’ Cruz ordered by WBC for 135-lb title eliminator

This is something to watch out for we all know how dangerous Isaac Cruz and this is a big challenge for Ryan Garcia's comeback
I hope they can make a deal and make the fight push through, Ryan Garcia announced that he wants Isaac Cruz, now it's close to happening.

So Garcia is back on track for the 135 lbs belt, we've seen how tough Isaac Cruz, but I don't know if he has the tools to beat Garcia. Ryan will have the physical advantage in this fight and we might see him getting loose against Cruz and will test how his chin is. Tank injured his hands fighting Cruz, and he said that Isaac's head is very solid. So we will see if Garcia can break that chin of Cruz and score a knock out. The winner of this match is in line up for the winner of Haney vs Kambosos Jr.

Garcia wants Cruz I'm sure he'll have it the deal is almost a done deal, the Golden Boy promotion made their intention clear that they want Isaac Cruz, I don't know what they see on Isaac Cruz but it seems they are taken him lightly, and I'm sure Cruz will be happy to challenge Garcia, this will be Garcia's toughest fight in his career, it will test his mental toughness let's see if Garcia can handle the big pressure when they face - off.
It's indeed a great timing that WBO has ordered Isaac Cruz and Ryan Garcia to have some talks/agreement on the said title so that the fight will materialize soon. I'm also hoping that Ryan's camp won't turn down this fight as The Golden Boy Promotions and his camp are vocal that they want Isaac Cruz for their boy (Ryan Garcia). This will be a good fight and Garcia will indeed face a dangerous man who is so thirsty and hungry.
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