Honestly, I was expecting to see another Bucks victory in the second game of the series too. The Celtics victory was a surprise to me truthfully. But now Bucks are going to have two home games in a row. I don't think that Bucks would lose any of them in front of their fans. And they would get ahead 3-1 in the series. And I think that Bucks could win the series like 4-2 at the end. Bucks are normally a quite dominant team against Celtics already.
Who would have honestly thought that the Celtics will dump them with over 20 points, right? Including me, I also expected that the Bucks got this game just like what they've showed on Game 1 even if they are undermanned and they still dominate the Celtics that time. But when the 2nd game began, they showed improvement on how to counter the offensive techniques of the Bucks as well as Giannis that's why they managed to defeat them. |
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Anyways, Donaire needs to decide after this fight no matter if he win or lose and if he will still pursue his career even though he is not getting any younger. He is already vulnerable unlike these young boxers who's recover and healing process is somehow shorter.
In fairness to Nonito Donaire, he's not like any boxer that is currently in the retirement period but still showing explosiveness. The fact that Donaire established 2 wins at between 38 and 39 years of age, and take note, it was both 4th round knockout wins, how can we even think that it's time now to hang his gloves. Actually, from what I see, he just moves forward by having a rematch with Inoue because he won his previous fights and become a champion. For let's say he loses in his last fights, I doubt Donaire will still push on a rematch with Inoue. It means, he knows that he has the power to defeat Inoue regardless of the chance. The main objective now is how to execute it properly on the day of the fight. I definitely agree about that, Donaire decides that he will continue to push this rematch because he managed to defeat two boxers with yes a KO in both 4th round in the same year, last year. That feat alone was literally something given his age but his aggressiveness and power definitely doesn't agree with that age because he's still like in his early 30s. But we will see how would this rematch end because if he will win then I guess there's a trilogy but if he loses again then I think there's nothing to look forward to. |
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^^ Yeah, Just woke up and surprised to see that the Bucks is down, it seems that the outside shooting of the Celtics is good in this game.
And then Giannis is being check in this game, no easy shots for him and the usual double or triple team when he has the ball. We might see 1-1 tonight.
It happened, Celtics adjust so well in guarding Giannis while their shooting also adjust and contributions from Jaylen Brown help them up in dominating and winning this game, Giannis and the rest of the Bucks tried to rally back in the third, but Tatum and the whole cast of Boston are aware and not willing to allow that run, they push more in the last quarter to secure that big lead and win the game. Almost everyone have thought that the Bucks will close the game with a 2-0 lead in their series but the Celtics adjusted well and played impressively to catch up with their loss on the 1st game. They now know how to stop the Bucks especially Giannis inside the paint, if we looked into it closely, they are taking advantage of the status of the Bucks especially that they are now undermanned. But there's still room left to improve in the Bucks side, we will see on the 3rd game. |
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That's the good side now because coach Freddie Roach is handling him closely just like Manny Pacquiao was when he was still starting to build his career in the international level. It's totally fine that they are not impressed by Mark Magsayo because they didn't saw him improved like we did because their eyes is set to other boxers as well, just let them see the weaknesses of Magsayo because eventually he will be known in the industry and defeat bigger names along the road.
More importantly, Magsayo's performance against Gary Russell Jr. shouldn't be the main reference to how he will perform in this upcoming fight against Rey Vargas. It's not that, at 100%, we can see the same performance done by Magsayo against Russell in this fight against Vargas. Boxers are changing tactics depending on their situation in the ring. Sometimes, there are strategies that will just think automatically by these boxers that are not done in the training. That's why there is a thing called "adjustment". Mark Magsayo should already know the drill better than us. If others still insist that Magsayo might have a hard time dealing with Vargas since they are not impressed with his performance against Russell, you have to think twice or so be it and wait for this fight to happen. I agree about that, his performance against Gary Russell Jr. should be the main reference alone as he's still continuing to improve even from that fight. Even Russell Jr. wasn't on his A-game that time that's why people keeps on saying that Magsayo could've knock him down that easily because his opponent is having a hard time. Magsayo is not done too with his career as he is still starting to build his name around the world, not now ofcourse but people will start to know him more as years goes by, I believe that. |
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The fate of the Milwaukee Bucks will remain a mystery for most of us because we quite knew that the most chances to win the championship this year is the most healthy team in the league right now, yes the Bucks are quite tenacious in the court but with only Giannis as their stronghold especially without the Middleton who also plays a big role in the team, they are still in a dangerous spot.
Before that's what I'm thinking but today's Milwaukee Bucks is different and not just they truly rely on Giannis' dominance. There's an improved Jrue Holiday that before, just known for his good defense in the last year's Finals but now stepping up in terms of offense. There's Bobby Portis and Grayson Allen too that are consistent since at the start of the playoffs. Although inconsistent in terms of stats, both Pat Connaughton and Brook Lopez are just doing their respective role like what a good role players should be. That's a big help even what they are doing are not listed on the stat sheets. Anyways, just an update, Milwaukee Bucks currently have an odds of @5.50 to win the Championship from @6.50 exactly 1 month since this thread was created. Didn't expect too that they could still dump a double digit lead versus the Boston Celtics, yes they improved more than their performance last season when they highly rely on Giannis's strengths and power alone but now, Jrue Holiday made a show of his own with the help of Bobby Portis and company. What more if Middleton was there playing alongside with the team. Anyways, still early for these things but it was quite entertaining to see that Bucks can still handle even though they are undermanned. |
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Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.
Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch. That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his next move after this upcoming fight. Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport. Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match. Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat. He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight. Or maybe his decision defends the outcome of the fight, just like MP, when he won against Thurman, he still look for a bigger fight, trying to push his limit, but when he lose, he decided to retire, so maybe that's the same scenario we will be seeing after this fight if Donaire wins. Donaire's situation is not that that the same as Manny Pacquiao's situation back when he is still doing fights because Donaire will be an ordinary man if he decides to hang his gloves while the latter has been more into the world of politics that's why he decided to retire specially that time because he was already a senator in the Philippines, IIRC. Anyways, Donaire needs to decide after this fight no matter if he win or lose and if he will still pursue his career even though he is not getting any younger. He is already vulnerable unlike these young boxers who's recover and healing process is somehow shorter. |
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It will still be a long journey for him but I'm sure that he could reach Manny's success if he will continue to make his country proud by being dedicated to each fight.
Every boxer dedicates their fight to their country as they are carrying their flag, for Filipino boxers, it's our pride to see a champion fighting, we all have our support but sometimes we cannot avoid from seeing their weakness as well, that is being realistic despite of our support and it's good so that the boxer would know what he has to improve. I'm sure the camp of Magsayo knows that there are fans that was not impress with his past fights, so hopefully that would motivate Magsayo to improve and deliver a very convincing win. With coach Freddie Roach as his trainer, fans of Mark Magsayo can be assured that they are going to do what is needed to win his first ever title defense against this dangerous opponent. For those who are not impressed with Mark's performance against Russell, they should take a closer look at how Magsayo evolved into a better boxer and gave his best to win that belt. He may have weaknesses but we know that their camp is working that and they too study the tape of their opponent so they can exploit Vargas' weakness. That's the good side now because coach Freddie Roach is handling him closely just like Manny Pacquiao was when he was still starting to build his career in the international level. It's totally fine that they are not impressed by Mark Magsayo because they didn't saw him improved like we did because their eyes is set to other boxers as well, just let them see the weaknesses of Magsayo because eventually he will be known in the industry and defeat bigger names along the road. |
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^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.
Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.
I would rate Stevenson among the top 5 pound for pound fighters but I find his style to be lackluster. Valdez doesn't have the best defense and can't take a punch very well. This was Stevenson's opportunity to win in spectacular fashion but he chose to go with a safety first approach. As great as Shakur is, I still think he has a long way to go before he is on the same level as Canelo, Crawford and Fury due to his unwillingness or inability to finish fighters. He doesn't want to gamble because he has to propose to his girlfriend after the win lol. Kidding aside, yup, that was a lackluster event for Shakur, he could have hurt the smaller Valdez if goes on the offensive mode but he chooses to be defensive even if he can take Oscar's punches. Devin Haney is on Team Stevenson's radar per his post-fight interview and I think that would be a boring fight because Haney is also a counter-puncher and has a low KO rate. So, let's hope that Kambasos will beat Haney so Shakur would again fight an aggressive fighter, a real aggressive fighter. Not fun to watch, but there are boxers nowadays that focus more on defense and calculated offense to win, despite the fact that they are boring to watch. I hope but I'm afraid we will see the same outcome that we saw today. Haney is a good technical fighter as well, he is very smart in the ring and he can score that would convince the judge to give him the win. These defensive fighters are not expected to give toe to toe, unless their opponent is fast enough to catch them, but in the case of Kambasos, I don't think he is fast enough to catch Haney. That will be the challenge for Kambosos to score on Haney's defensive maneuvers, might be fun and entertaining to see a both aggressive fighters share the same ring but yes, sometimes technical boxers like Haney has the most chances because just as I said, they are more on calculations so that their punches won't go to waste. |
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On tomorrow's game. Is it the first time that James Harden playing without Embiid? I still trust Harden's offense but it also depends on how Doc Rivers planned the game. But I do hope Doc will let Harden do his thing. I might take a pass on betting tomorrow's games.
They are listed on the bookies with +7.5 spread against the Miami Heat, some will take that spread but same as you, I would pass on their game tomorrow as it's unlikely to predict this game well without Embiid. However I got Phoenix Suns -5.5 for the game later. |
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I was thinking Warriors too but after seeing how dialed in Giannis is today, I think the Bucks are the team to beat. I believe they’ll have Middleton back for the Finals also? If so, I think it will be hard even for the Warriors with a healthy roster to take them down. Giannis is just a different animal right now. Draymond Green might get the chance to prove he’s as great of a defender as he says he is…
For let's say the Milwaukee Bucks will reach the Finals, I honestly think too that no one from the Warriors can stop him. However, the task for the Bucks is how to well defend those Warriors' gunners, especially their lethal 3-pointers. Since the Warriors are unable to defend Giannis, they will focus instead on their offense. About Khris Middleton, he's ruled out on this 2nd round of the playoffs until the conference finals. That also depends on how long the series will end. If the Milwaukee Bucks will end up on Game 6 or 7 at both 2nd round and Conference Finals, that would extend Middleton's recovery to be able to play at the Finals. Well, that's only "what if".The fate of the Milwaukee Bucks will remain a mystery for most of us because we quite knew that the most chances to win the championship this year is the most healthy team in the league right now, yes the Bucks are quite tenacious in the court but with only Giannis as their stronghold especially without the Middleton who also plays a big role in the team, they are still in a dangerous spot. |
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Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.
Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch. That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his next move after this upcoming fight. Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport. Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match. Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat. He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight. |
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It will still be a long journey for him but I'm sure that he could reach Manny's success if he will continue to make his country proud by being dedicated to each fight.
Every boxer dedicates their fight to their country as they are carrying their flag, for Filipino boxers, it's our pride to see a champion fighting, we all have our support but sometimes we cannot avoid from seeing their weakness as well, that is being realistic despite of our support and it's good so that the boxer would know what he has to improve. I'm sure the camp of Magsayo knows that there are fans that was not impress with his past fights, so hopefully that would motivate Magsayo to improve and deliver a very convincing win. |
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^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.
Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.
I would rate Stevenson among the top 5 pound for pound fighters but I find his style to be lackluster. Valdez doesn't have the best defense and can't take a punch very well. This was Stevenson's opportunity to win in spectacular fashion but he chose to go with a safety first approach. As great as Shakur is, I still think he has a long way to go before he is on the same level as Canelo, Crawford and Fury due to his unwillingness or inability to finish fighters. He doesn't want to gamble because he has to propose to his girlfriend after the win lol. Kidding aside, yup, that was a lackluster event for Shakur, he could have hurt the smaller Valdez if goes on the offensive mode but he chooses to be defensive even if he can take Oscar's punches. Devin Haney is on Team Stevenson's radar per his post-fight interview and I think that would be a boring fight because Haney is also a counter-puncher and has a low KO rate. So, let's hope that Kambasos will beat Haney so Shakur would again fight an aggressive fighter, a real aggressive fighter. Not fun to watch, but there are boxers nowadays that focus more on defense and calculated offense to win, despite the fact that they are boring to watch. |
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^ True, they are at lost in the last couple of minutes, they are in the lead but then Edwards and KAT are throwing 3's? They put up a good defense against Ja but it's not enough as they allowed offensive rebounds. They have a good chance to win this series or force game 7, but they blew it away. Gonna be hard for the team after this game.
It just shows that the Wolves is not really built for the playoffs as their star players making costly mistakes in the end, as you have said shooting for the outside, he could have post up and maybe get a foul but instead KAT, shooting and wanted to close the Memphis but he misses badly. For the series I will favor the Warriors, but maybe Grizzlies can win game one? They can win a game but I'm not sure if it's game 1 or 2. LOL. It's hard to predict as the Warriors could dominate any team, they even almost swept the Nuggets if Thompson was not in early foul trouble in game 4. |
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For me its either Boston or Suns but I would love to see Mavs winning it with a Luka going beyond limits and win everything but that scenario most likely won't happen.
Definitely we cannot count Luka out because the Mavericks now is not only dependent on Luka, they have a lot of gunners that are willing to shoot the ball coming from the assist of Luka if he gets doubled. They have Brunson and Dinwiddie, they are the key factors to the Success of the Mavs. GSW are still the favorites to win it all but this Boston team is so stack together that I simply cannot see them losing even if they face GSW.
No doubt about the Warriors, they have been playing together for many seasons, so when it comes to consistency, I like the Warriors. |
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It's going to be one of the first years in which neither team is really a favorite. Of the 8 that remain, 8 really have a chance. I don't put any one step ahead, I think the champion will depend more on what style you play the least bother you play against.
(I know that the 8th team remains to be defined, but whether it is Memphis or Minnesota, it does not change what I think)
I hate to disagree but there's also lot of team now who is also favorite to win this season that have survived the first round of eliminations like the Milwaukee Bucks, Phoenix Suns and especially the Golden State Warriors who have the most edge and the healthiest team in the league right now. It's quite premature to tell which of these favorite teams will survive in the Semis and will go to the Finals. The Memphis Grizzlies have already closed the series today and defeated the Minnesota Timberwolves. Memphis Grizzlies cannot even dominate the Timberwolves so they are not my champion this season. I think the champion will be coming from the West, if the Warriors will fall, it should be the Bucks who will win even without Middleton. I just like their defense, they are a strong team who are the defending champion and yet still underrated. |
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Grizzlies will be having the game of there life with GSW aggressiveness. I'm curious on far they can go against GSW.
We are going to find out soon, Grizzlies defeated the Warriors in the play-in, I think the Warriors here will be making their revenge. With a healthy Curry, Green, and Thompson, that's all that is needed to win the game. The good thing here is both teams could play small ball as they don't have long center. |
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Looks like Davis has more advantage in this match and looks like he gonna explode to score another knockout here. Next month? I think this one has some fast negotiation since Romero sides will only take whatever the offer was because the main prize here is to gamble their boxer with Davis, hoping to win this fight with their prepared tactics.
Dvis have a clear advantage, for me and like many fans he affirms that he will win, although it is a fight that does not have as much relevance as the one we have been waiting for, he may have another type of vision, perhaps due to the fact that he does not have a lot of vision or a lot of visibility before the media, the bettors do not give importance to this fight. On the other hand, when analyzing Romero, it can be seen that he is a boxer who does not have much relevance, but if he can make a difference, I believe that with what Romero is going through, he will not leave it so easy. It's because of the competition simple as that. Tank Davis is expecting to have a good fight or at least a name opponents. Unfortunately, they have built a story line on a Romero vs Davis last year and they have to finished it as the original fight has been postponed. Nevertheless, the fight might not ring a bell to many boxing fans because Romero is an unknown opponent for Davis. Despite that, I still want to see this fight as I want to see how Davis would KO Romero who is an unknown fighter who trashtalk the champion. By the looks of it, I think it's going to be a one-sided beat down, but the question is on how Davis would do that. Tank is a great puncher he must not too eager to knock this guy or it will backfire we all that boxers should not go for knockout right away because it will just come, one example of this theory is the recent Lopez - kambosos fight, where Lopez just charge Kambosos and try to knock him out in round one, but it backfires instead he was the one who got knockdown, it could happen if he is to eager for the win. But that was the story of Tank Davis, he cannot change that. If you look at his record, he has a very high KO rate, that's why he is one of the most exciting fighters in his generation. He could still win if he gets aggressive as long as he would always follow the game plan. |
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Honestly, I don't trust Magsayo completely in this fight as I was a bit disappointed with the way he fight in his previous fight although he won. I don't know this Vargas but if Magsayo will not improve his style, I think he will experience his first defeat.
i agree, it seems his performance is getting worse not the same before and he was just lucky enough that he won on the previous fight. For me surely vargas just want to take this opportunity before moving up, because he knows mark magasayo is easy for him, and yes if magsayo didn't improve his style and performance, in my view this match would be his worst nightmare. I'm not sure the word "easy" is the right thing to use, that would not happen here, if Vargas will win, for sure Magsayo will give him a good fight. Well, I don't want to be bias so I think Magsayo chance to win here is not as high as the betting odds. |
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