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4101  Other / Meta / Re: 10th anniversary art contest on: November 23, 2019, 11:05:42 AM
Surprising how many users actually posted multiple submissions according to DdmrDdmr's post there. I just assumed most of those trying to bruteforce the art submissions were from those with low quality, and weren't getting any merit. Seems like it really did pay off for some users on a merit point of view submitting more than 10 in some instances.
4102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / MOVED: [ANN][PRE-ICO] Bitdollar Fund, the world's first collectively managed fund. on: November 23, 2019, 10:32:55 AM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4461242.0

Incentivising posting within specific threads. Refer to:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2103690.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0
4103  Other / Meta / Re: The Bitcoin Forum is 10 years old! on: November 23, 2019, 12:23:42 AM
Happy 10th Anniversary Bitcointalk! I've created something for all of us, I hope you'll like it.
Here's mine:
Here's mine. Wink References to Vod, Salty Spitoon, and several other users of the forum.

And maybe our further generations will see 100th anniversary of Bitcointalk Cheesy
Future generations? Don't be so pessimistic Wink
4104  Economy / Reputation / Re: TMAN & Lauda on: November 23, 2019, 12:00:44 AM
Yeah, I'd have to agree with Suchmoon's stance on this. Although, I believe the OP is spewing bullshit its certainly not scamming anyone. Unless, they were offering to double users money themselves or advertising a site which in turn scams. I just think this user is either trying to troll a Bitcoin forum or has opposing views to most of the population on this forum.

I'll oppose it for now unless there's a little more to the story here.

Although, regarding the following;
The user sends multiple PM's about users on my trustlist - so I checked the neg from lauda and its correct.
I'm not sure I'm quite understanding whats being implied. What exactly is the user doing by messaging users on your trust list?
4105  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Forum project in the making on: November 22, 2019, 09:38:28 PM
What's your aim for launching a Bitcoin forum? Obviously, if its to avoid censorship, and add another forum to the mix then that's fine. However, do you have any niches that you'll be focusing on within Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies?

Why are you guys suggesting to use epochtalk? If it was ready for usage, wouldn't Theymos already be using it for Bitcointalk?
It needs testing. Any good software needs to be tested vigorously, and having a larger amount of users testing the software is better than just a select few.

If it was my forum and I was an inexperienced forum host, I would want to be using the most robust, proven, widely supported forum software available—that's certainly not epochtalk (at least for now).
Decent advice. Well documented forums are probably better for those that are inexperienced, and there's always the possibility of importing the database to different software in the future.
4106  Other / Meta / Re: The Bitcoin Forum is 10 years old! on: November 22, 2019, 08:43:12 PM
Just think, while we are all celebrating the 10th anniversary of the forums theymos is racking his brain over the art contests. What a hero! Cheesy

Hats off and a thousand thanks to theymos for all the hard work he does to keep this place top notch.
It would be quite the scene if all the WO hat users took their hat off in homage to the forum!
4107  Economy / Reputation / Re: LoyceV vs DdmrDdmr (and get your own Merit graph: up to 10 users per graph) on: November 22, 2019, 08:21:10 PM
@ LoyceV I'd like to compare those that are in the Chipmixer campaign with over 1500 merits total:

First graph:
84521
2033515
2143453
579628
487418
465017
85033
787736
1582324
359716

2nd graph:
1188543
140827
234771

(Its a shame there's more than 10 users so they don't fit on one graph)



All reasons mentioned by you are Loycev make a lot of sense, but based on my personal experience it's mostly "where" you post that makes the big difference, if i take myself as an example
I would say that where you post, and at what times matters, but I wouldn't say its the biggest cause. To be able to find a cause we would likely have to do a case study of over a thousand users. and ideally more  to have any sort of accuracy. A interesting statistic to cough up would be to determine how many merits per post since the introduction of the merit system users get. This would be able to help determine whether its a matter of activity versus where you post.

For example, I've pretty much always posted in the same sections since the merit introduction, but I haven't always been actively posting. Active on the forum yeah, but not posting. You can probably check this via the chipmixer campaign spreadsheet where I would have 0 posts some weeks. This is a mixture of reasons, but getting used to moderating, and trying to improve the way I moderate definitely had an impact. Some of you may have noticed that my public activity has been much greater recently, and as a result I've seen quite a growth in my merits. I'm sure LoyceV or someone else would be able to pull up a graph showing how I've stagnated for a little while, and having exponential growth when coming active again.

I think its become quite obvious that a lot of users are bruteforcing the merit gain, and although honestly I think their posts are decent enough to gain merit a statistic showing how many merits per post made would likely be a better indication of someone's overall quality. Of course, this can be inaccurate as well as there's no standards for awarding merit.

These are my observations (which may be inaccurate, and just personal opinion); Certain parts of the forum yield a much greater chance of merit not because of activity or the topic subject, but because there's almost a little mini community within Bitcointalk in certain sections. The collectible section, and the wall observer thread in my opinion are these little mini communities where it seems there's a lot of "back scratching". Although, I'd like to make it clear I'm not implying that the back scratching is unjust or wrong I've just made the observation that it's definitely easier to earn merit in these mini communities when considering the post quality. These are users that are not shitposting either, and in fact many of the users there are very good posters.

4108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Did I compromise my paper wallet? Help and opinions appreciated on: November 22, 2019, 07:06:33 PM
A relatively simple method would be to put Tails OS onto an USB stick, unplug internet and boot from the stick.
Tails already have Electrum on it, so you create a new wallet (it will not be persistent!), write down the words and save onto another stick a couple of addresses.
Done.
If anyone takes this route make sure to verify that you have the tails downloaded from a legitimate source by verifying the signature via PGP. Should probably do this for all media that you download, but people get lazy, and tend to forget.

you can run a watch-only Electrum wallet on an online computer, or even your mobile phone.
You don't really need additional software for this, though. You could simply just keep a copy of the address, and search it up on a block explorer.
4109  Other / Meta / Re: The Bitcoin Forum is 10 years old! on: November 22, 2019, 06:55:04 PM
I love how that graphic used dollar signs for the design.

Is bitcointalk one of the biggest forums around in terms of registered members or what?  If it isn't, I would imagine it's close.  I know most of the accounts here are inactive, but there still are a f-ton of active members and a lot of great discussion flows from that--even with all the shitposting nonsense.  That's incredible IMO.  And sometimes it's even the shitposters sparking the discussion by making threads that can turn out to be very interesting.  I don't think that without signature campaigns and bounties that the forum would be quite what it is right now.  Just sayin'.
Obviously, the biggest forum related to Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies in general, but no where near the biggest forum in general. Sites like digitalpoint, warriorforums, and IGN have almost double. Then there's probably a few others like the Minecraft related forums, and obviously if you count Yahoo answers etc. However, when comparing how long all the others have been around for I would say its pretty impressive.

I haven't got exact figures because I'm not registered on anything else. However, IGN's Wikipedia page says 4.2 million registered users.
4110  Other / Meta / Re: The Bitcoin Forum is 10 years old! on: November 22, 2019, 06:19:42 PM
When I first signed up for this forum 6 years ago I would have never expected it to become such a big part of my life, and the amount of passion I would gather over the years for it. I've never been part of a forum community like this one, and forums have never really interested me. However, I've probably checked this forum almost every day since I registered 6 years ago.

Just know we've influenced a generation of youngsters. Instead of them getting drunk, and into trouble on the streets they've been here. Still getting drunk, but also watching the price bounce up, and down on the wall observer thread.


Thank you, everyone, for your continuing contributions to this legendary forum! Let's try to somehow make the next 10 years even more interesting than the last.
This means more pizza buying, legendary april fools, and more official Bitcointalk condoms for sale
4111  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcointalk trading cards on: November 22, 2019, 05:12:13 PM
Will each card be unique or will there be multiple copies of a single card? < Example : 1 of 20 >
Each card would likely have a unique serial or hologram to link up with the web version, and also distinguish that its a real card. However, all art work would be the same. Depending on the business model taken then some cards will probably be more rare than others. Especially, cards like Satoshi's they should probably be made from a totally different material, and really stand out as a collectors item.
4112  Other / Meta / Re: [BCT FACT] Bitcointalk was originally on Bitcoin.org but ... drama on: November 22, 2019, 01:43:02 PM
It'll be interesting to know what users reflections are on moving now that its been done.
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2011-06-15 04:07:10 <jgarzik>   I'll even purchase the domain (bitcointalk.org?) for 10 years, register w/ privacy enhanced domain registrar, and transfer it to theymos  or whomever wants it

Seems like it was already decided that it was going to be called Bitcointalk.org before it was registered? Or was jgarzik the one to suggest that domain?
4113  Other / Meta / Re: Merit spree is underway. on: November 22, 2019, 10:04:17 AM
I only dropped like 200 merit, and my head hurts. I think I'm all art'd out for the next 10 years. Who said we were lacking Bitcointalk.org mascots, and image based content? Tongue



The speed at which Theymos merits the art contest entries, by the time the contest ends, he would have seen all the entries and would have finished meriting. Incredible !!!

I reckon he needs to review the whole thread twice just to make sure he hasn't missed any gems Cheesy
4114  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcointalk trading cards on: November 21, 2019, 06:15:50 PM
I'll take a look at the references a little later on after I get back. However, I just want it to be clear that I'm not looking to create a new token or Altcoin for this. I'm obviously a big supporter of Bitcoin, and although I moderate the Altcoin section I'm not actually invested in any cryptocurrency other than Bitcoin.
4115  Other / Meta / Re: Help us defend the Bitcointalk Castle on: November 21, 2019, 05:47:30 PM
Needs more dragons Wink


Honestly, I'd prefer HTML5/ Javascript over Flash since it's a dying technology.

It's a pain to run and update it too.

That's the only reason I haven't looked at the game itself, and just taken a look at the screenshots of the game. I hate Flash with a passion, and try to avoid using it all together. Unfortunately, when doing my degree my university insists on using Flash based elements.
4116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can somebody explain, please? Microsoft and quantum computing. on: November 21, 2019, 04:23:50 PM
I hate these generic article titles being published by news publishers recently.

Either way, we are still likely decades away from this threatening bitcoin.
To make it clear to the OP; Even then it only really threatens the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm (ECDSA), and that can be changed for better suited alternatives at the time that its actually required. However, At the moment there's no need to do so as we are a long way off from having quantum computers that are capable of breaking the ECDSA. However, despite this there has been progress within this field, and finding the best way to move on from the ECDSA, but I'd expect this to ramp up in intensity in the next few years.

Bitcoin fundamentally isn't going to be under threat of quantum computers, however the algorithm which Bitcoin uses will be. There's been multiple discussions about this recently here on the forum, and elsewhere on the internet due to the recent Google claims, but as o_e_l_e_o suggests we are currently no where near the physical qubits to be overly concerned.

4117  Other / Meta / Re: Merit spree is underway. on: November 21, 2019, 04:14:18 PM
He distributed 7212 merits in those two meriting spree alone.
He distributed 7793 merits in total to the art thread.
And thus it will be known as the "great airdrop of 2019". Its nice to see some users who wouldn't normally get merit through a different means which still requires effort to be made. Hopefully, this encourages these users to push on, and start contributing more to the community. Bitcointalk offers opportunities to its communities that you don't see anywhere else.

I got 20 only, and I am so disappointed.
I reckon, from what I see from merit distribution, that Theymos liked some different kind of works, but to me it is beautiful, and I am using it as wallpaper on my devices (even tough I admit it's a little bit confusing).
I'm just putting an assumption out there maybe he'll be considering those with 10+ or whatever. It would be nice if he rewarded the badges to only exceptional pieces or potentially offering badges to those who excelled in a certain field of art. For example, hand painted, digitally painted, and poems Wink Wink Wink

Nah, I'm just kidding. Hopefully, these badges are kept somewhat rare, but enough to not just disappear because of users going inactive. I hope to see these badges in 10 years from now, and it can remind us of the 10th anniversary.
4118  Other / Meta / Re: Merit spree is underway. on: November 21, 2019, 11:09:11 AM
Honestly it is my first time I witnessed continous hours of actively works in the forum from theymos. I know he probably does this but we don't know what he does behind the scenes. This time, with the art contest and his merit-sending activities, we have good evidence that he works hours-in-a-row for the art contest within last few days.

Theymos definitely does a lot of work behind the scenes that a lot of users don't get to see. For example, he has to do the taxes, mod payments, maintenance of the forum, and also maintain some sort of life outside of the forum. I'm not sure what his logged in time is, but he's extremely active most of the time.

I think theymos has been a little more publicly active this year, and last with the introduction of the merit system, and the recent bumping changes.

Initially, he planned to distributed at least 500 merits but from now I think he might distribute at least 5000 merits.  Grin
I'm expecting similar numbers, but also the number of art badges that are given out because of how many submissions were actually submitted. I imagine those that have received over 30 merit from theymos on their art pieces are likely in the running to receive a badge. Definitely, something of significance to have a badge dedicated to the 10th anniversary which probably won't be reused in further forum contests if there are any.
4119  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcointalk trading cards on: November 21, 2019, 10:59:34 AM
Another idea would be to create cards which only include history, and a description of each card. Then potentially including a QR code on each card which links to a online game which has updated statistics, and could be played online against others users. This would be a gimmick, and not something which is to the standards of Hearthstone of course. Potentially, allowing users to buy digital cards like Hearthstone in the game, but also have a physical version for the collectors of the forum.
4120  Other / Politics & Society / Re: a society question about prison time on: November 20, 2019, 06:21:07 PM
My input was based on all the hidden factors that contribute to the costs of running a prison, and not just for water, and food costs, but for everything. I'd agree 11k is no where near that of the American prisons, but I can't possibly comment on that. Although, water charges for a prison will be much more than your regular household due to the fact that they would need regular quality assurance checks. This isn't one sample per prison. Its a sample of each length of water main over 5 meters I believe.

However, my point being is its these little things which aren't often public knowledge that we don't think of. My original point which was poorly presented I'll admit wasn't about justifying the costs, but giving a little insight into the hidden factors of running something like this with all the rules, and regulations that are put in place.

AFAIK, UK prisons actually provide very good quality of food to the prisoners. I think it was either Charles Bronson or another high profile prisoner who has publicly said that they have been treated extremely well compared to 30 years or so ago.
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