We can't see into the future but by statistics, this year will most likely have positive returns, both in the stock market and for Bitcoin. We will have to see how various issues play out to see how it materializes, such as the war in Ukraine, as you comment, or central banks policies. The rise of the stock markets is partly due to the belief of a rate cut later in the year, which would bring liquidity back into the markets and much of that liquidity ends up in financial assets.

Anyway, we have to think that if we end the year, say at $26k, that would mean ending the year in positive but we could not say that it has been a glorious year.

It will not be the first time, but it is not very common.


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Yes, he is responsible for these funds. If he loses them he has to bear the consequences, even if it is in this case as it seems due to negligence and not because he stole them himself. At the moment he has one negative tag and two neutral ones reflecting the situation, when not even 24 hours have passed. I think both tags are acceptable. Neutral which will change to negative if he does not pay what he owes or conversely, negative which will change to neutral if he pays.

In this case we see that the two people most affected, those who hired him, give him the benefit of the doubt. From a distance we cannot know what really happened to him but from the way he acted I am also inclined to think that the most likely scenario is that he was robbed of his funds.

He will have to reach an agreement to pay back the stolen money, even if it is little by little, and it is going to be difficult because the money he is paying back is going to be money that he will not be able to use to buy food for his family.

Come to think of it, I have a question, julerz12.

Why did you make the campaign thread a self-moderated one?

I don't recall any other, apart from those of Royse777, who had good reasons, but you apparently didn't.

My goodness how quickly it all happened. I saw the campaign and applied precisely because Royse777 didn't manage it. For that I prefer to stay working for icopress for less than half. So I applied in a moment, after another moment I see that I have been accepted and then in a few hours I see two PMs from the campaign manager and now this thread.

We will have to think about this, but what I see is that leaving aside what has really happened, we do know at least that julerz12 has been careless. A campaign manager with the time he has been in the forum should have used a hardware wallet and not just rely on Electrum:

Bitcointalk Username:  Poker Player
SeqWit BTC Address: 3FbEKP45xmrRGQ3QHibp7LULStQCA8Q6Ri

Will change signature, avatar and personal text if accepted

The problem with all of this is to mix in the "crypto world" Bitcoin with more than 20,000 other crappy currencies. At heart these warnings are understandable, as the shitcoin market is very much a casino where the house in some cases cheats. Let's hope that Bitcoin is considered a commodity and the rest securities and people start to be clear about the difference.

Yes, as I have said recently, we will most likely close the year in the positive, although it does not have to be a large increase from the current price level. Closing lower would be a catastrophe and would break the pattern of previous years, but let's not speculate on what is unlikely to happen. [


Of course, apart from a certain price trend dependent on the cycle and halvings, we will have to see what news there is this year that affects the price.

I agree especially with mk4 and Despairo comments. The only thing I would add is that focusing on 2023 is too short-sighted, and more so considering what Bitcoin is. We will most likely close this year in the positive, but there doesn't have to be a huge price increase either. Just if we closed at $20 on December 31, there would have been a positive return.

OP, do some research on what Bitcoin is and you will see that it is worth HODL for at least one cycle, if not two, although you can take advantage of times like this to buy more and bull market times to make partial sales.

Lol. How funny.

When you find out that it is normal in a casino to lose, you might have a stroke. Cryptocurrency casinos, in general those you see advertised in the forum, such as the ones we carry in the signatures are reliable. All except one, the 1xBit, do not even think of betting in that one.

The rest are reliable, what happens is that you have to bet knowing that they are games that in the long run make you lose money, although in some sessions you can come out positive. Probably in your first sessions you have had negative variance, that is, more bad luck than usual.

That's because I really like Ronald Reagan.

Peace Through Strength.

-Hero of Good: theymos
-Golden Feather: Hhampuz
-Bitcointalk Ninja: LoyceV
-Bitcoin Geek: o_e_l_e_o
-Event of the Year: -
-Fail of the Year: FTX fiasco
-Discovery of the Year: -
-Best SpamBuster: lovesmayfamilis
-Best ScamBuster: lovesmayfamilis
-Craft Master: Icopress
-AntiHero: Royse777
-Miss Bitcointalk: I find the question sexist  , but to name one: BitcoinGirl.Club

Leaving aside that the title is incorrect and that the OP is probably an alt who has it in for Royse777 for some reason, no one is struck by this? I mean, with the recent history and on top of that now he's sending PMs of who knows what and ends up temp banned. The Casino Critique thing was also via PMs.

What a gem, reminds me of Naim027, with the only difference that many people have gotten paid a lot of money thanks to him in his campaigns.

Well, the critical moment is approaching. I think this thread is the one that has created the most expectation at present.

I believe that if everything goes well, which we hope it will, it is normal that he will be a while without writing here after the transplant, and we will be with the uncertainty, but hopefully it will be for a new beginning for him.

Best wishes from afar, yahoo62278.

This is what I would do, and nowadays, the most normal thing is that at the border they don't even know what it is. In the unlikely event that you are searched, it looks like a USB memory stick or similar. Besides what will be prohibited will be the possession of Bitcoin, not a HW in which you have not yet withdrawn the funds. In other words, it is extremely unlikely that you will have any risk by buying a HW in a neighboring country and returning to your country.

Yes, and not only with respect to Bitcoin. I invest in the US stock market as well, and instead of thinking that it's a shame that it's gone down, what I do is take advantage of it to buy cheap. If the asset you buy is top quality, it always goes up in the long run. Times like this are good to buy on sale.

You seem to be doing so many things wrong. For starters you seem to be missing the point that with trading you can make money when the market goes down as well. So it doesn't matter if the market will go up again or when it will reach $60k, because if you really knew how to trade, which I doubt, you could make money too.

People are very surprised if you explain to them that tax reduction policies generate more revenue, but in order to balance the accounts they have to be accompanied by reductions in public spending, and in a world addicted to debt and spending and spending, this seems impossible.

When you want to make it impossible for people to do what they want to do and tax them excessively, people look for ways to avoid paying and to free themselves from your yoke, and in the case we are seeing of cryptocurrencies the same thing. With a policy of tolerance and low taxes, many people who do not declare them and/or have moved them abroad, would declare them and move them in their country, benefiting the local economy.

The future is very difficult to predict. Based on what is there now, we can see the likely things, and we will still err. You can look at the movie Back to the Future, for example, there are some things it got right and some things it got wrong.


I agree, when the wheel was invented, which marked a before and after in transportation, more than 5,000 years had to pass for another such radical revolution, which was to be able to fly.  What we cannot predict is what we cannot even imagine today. Imagine explaining to someone in 1800 what the Internet was going to be. He couldn't even conceive it. Let alone if you go much further back in time.

In any case, I think the most likely thing for the next say 10 years will be that Bitcoin will continue to exist and revalue in purchasing power, that CBDCs will be implemented and that most shitcoins will go to hell.

Yes, but all the objections you raise sound to me like the same objections that were raised against automatic translators, which are now widely used.

Are you sure that the ChatGPT of 2024, 2025 etc. will be as monotonous and easy to catch as the current one? The first versions of automatic translators were laughable, or think about the first versions of cell phones, or the first years of the Internet.