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1741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: April 23, 2023, 04:31:42 AM
I'm not sure Al can be trained to play poker and used to beat online poker.

Your security or insecurity would have been solved with a simple internet search, AI has been beating humans in poker for years now:

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Artificial Intelligence Masters The Game of Poker – What Does That Mean For Humans? Artificial intelligence systems including DeepStack and Libratus paved the way for Pluribus, the AI that beat five other players in six-player Texas Hold 'em, the most popular version of poker. This feat goes beyond games.

And nothing happens, the players keep on playing and those who make money with poker keep on winning. On average the profits are decreasing, but not so much because of the AI but because of the hardening of the tables in general.
1742  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I lost my btc after chipmixer was taken over on: April 23, 2023, 04:23:48 AM
I used chipmixer in March. I thought the private key he gave me would be deleted, but it turned out that it was not deleted. On March 16, my btc was transferred by the police. I didn't commit a crime, it's just for privacy, so is there any way to recover my btc Embarrassed Embarrassed

I don't know, call the police and see if they will return them to you out of respect for your privacy.  Grin

If the police have done it right, they will have transferred the funds to addresses where only they have the private keys. The only thing I think you can do is try to use yours to see if the bitcoins are there and move them to another address of yours that you manage with other keys.

This would be better placed on a technical board btw.
1743  Economy / Reputation / Re: Changed language in history. Bought? Hacked? on: April 23, 2023, 03:20:40 AM
Also there you can very often see that someone writes exclusively in English during the discussion. That's why I wouldn't take all of this as 100% proof that the account changed hands.

This does look to me written by someone who was born in Nigeria. Even if you are born in Indonesia and go to live in Nigeria, you will not write like that.


Everybody don see papa Obasanjo as person wey him face show for Nigerian election and politics mata,so as him don endorse Peter Obi so,opponent don dey already know say wahala dey,because before him endorsam so,dem go don plot their graph well, knowing say obi no go fail atall,dem go don finish their work inside house.and to me,eno go dey bad say na Peter Obi rule us because when I listen to him manifesto,he looks promising,him talk about things we go give us life,the only problem their be say dem dey talk all those things finish and dem go still go loose guard when dem don already sit down for that sit.

As an aside, he is supposed to be an Indonesian immigrant in Nigeria and care about Nigerian politics so much to the point of talking about how it affects "us" with the rest of the local board? He has integrated into society in record time.

Well, no matter what excuses he comes up with, they will still be excuses as the reality is that the account changed hands. That's it.  Cool

Yes.

I edit because I think this will leave no room for doubt:

I greet everybody wey dey here oh,,my senior men dem,,una face shoe,una shoe shine.Our father's dey say "wetin dey in-between person teeth,the tongue no dey fit leavam"
Meaning:as long as there is a situation on ground,people can't stop talking about it.
There are so many proverbs that were used by our forefathers in different dialects,but interpreting it is difficult.

The title of the thread is : African Proverbs in Pidgin.

Red tagged by me.

1744  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Markets in Crypto Assets Regulation (MiCA) discussions on: April 23, 2023, 03:10:27 AM
There was a n interview with someone from Bitstamp about the regulation and they said it's not bad and they see it as something positive. They will not migrate of of the EU because of it.
I think it's not making it harder for exchanges, rather for clients who were used to operating with less KYC.

Exactly, I guess they don't care because 99% of the customers they have will complete the KYC without complaint if they haven't already done so, and they will be able to continue making money, which is what matters to them.

Personally, I think the regulation is aimed at making cryptocurrencies look less appealing when CBDC gets introduced. CBDC will be made so that it offers less limits and easier, faster access, so that on paper ot can compete with bitcoin, so it's important to impose limits on bitcoin first. It's all one big operation.

Probably.

The government never does anything to make your life easier.

Lol, how strange, one of my own on the forum. With the number of forum members who defend big government socialism, despite the contradiction it implies with the principles of bitcoin, I'm glad to find someone who thinks like me.
1745  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Michael J Saylor become the richest man in the history of mankind? on: April 22, 2023, 01:20:42 PM
If the monetary system collapses then there are two possibilities
- 10 million dollars will buy you a lollipop
- nearly all the wealth in the world will be destroyed, making it impossible for BTC to have a market cap of 210 trillion.

You can't have the cake, eat it, and also throw it in somebody's face at the same time!  Wink
So let's stick to the scenario where Bitcoin is reaching 1 million without any apocalypse!

I don't know why people have wet dreams about it. They only see one part of the big picture, the part that suits them best. If the monetary system collapses there is going to be pain, a lot of pain, and if you have a lot of Bitcoin or money in general it better not be noticed.

In addition to him not actually owning the "nearly 1% of all BTC in circulation," he'll probably go to jail first:

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/08/31/washington-dc-suing-microstrategys-michael-saylor-for-tax-fraud/

https://blockworks.co/news/bitcoin-michael-saylor-tax-evasion-lawsuit

He's a sociopath fixated on satisfying the whims of his own ego. A lot of beta bitcoiners look up to him as a role model, which is unfortunate because he's not a good person.

https://newrepublic.com/article/160773/bitcoin-price-boom-michael-saylor-microstrategy
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After founding MicroStrategy in 1989, Saylor was part of an alleged accounting scheme that vastly overstated the company’s earnings, making a money-losing, publicly traded corporation look profitable. In 2000, Saylor, two other MicroStrategy executives, and the company itself paid a total of $11 million in a settlement with the SEC; Saylor, who personally signed off on the fraudulent earnings reports, paid $8.2 million of that. The charges were settled with no one admitting any wrongdoing. Somehow, Saylor has held onto his role at MicroStrategy over the last 20 years, reportedly becoming one of the richest people in the capital region. The company’s revenue has declined every year since 2014.

Well, the tax issue will have to be looked at I didn't know anything about it. If he goes to jail, I'm not going to cry, but I'd better wait for the sentence, and the settlement without admitting any wrongdoing doesn't tell me anything either, there are people who admit a minor penalty without guilt to avoid a small probability of a serious penalty.

If anything, I had a better idea of him at first. After a while I realized that those messages he throws out to the masses along the lines of "mortgage your house to buy Bitcoin, borrow from everything to buy Bitcoin", are insane.

But seems like the community needs a Bitcoin Jesus desperately, too bad they are selecting the worse of the worse.

This. Wasn't the former Bitcoin Jesus McAfee?
1746  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT1 and DT2 members who have negative feedback (or are banned) on: April 22, 2023, 07:48:49 AM
Just out of curiosity, the numbering of this list is by the order of inclusion in it?
1747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the price gets to $60k this year? on: April 22, 2023, 04:11:39 AM
Highly unlikely I'd say. I would expect us to hit $40K or even $50K this year but no more. It would be getting too close to ATH.

Bitcoin is always a coin that cannot be predict...

It cannot be predicted with certainty, but we can speak of probabilities. Looking at the history of Bitcoin, the normal is to approach the $69K peak after the next halving, not this year. To look at it from a positive point of view, we can continue to accumulate at a cheap price for a longer period of time.





1748  Economy / Economics / Re: it's so risky! on: April 22, 2023, 03:57:26 AM
I don't invest money easily in any asset because of fear of losing that money. i think of investing 80% of total savings.
do taking risk is important or not?

I think you are like most people, you have a misconception of risk as applied to financial matters.

Many people think that for example investing in the stock market is risky, which is partially true or partially false, depending on how you look at it.

Investing by doing DCA in the S&P 500 for the long term is a very safe investment. On the other hand, playing roulette trying to buy and sell an individual stock, typically a small cap, in the short term is very risky.

As for cryptocurrencies, investing in Bitcoin with a long-term view with money you don't need is very safe, while investing in the shitcoin of the moment, especially if you are trying to trade it, is very risky.

What I recommend is that you get a lot of information about investments in general and before investing make a reasoned decision, and do it with money that you will not need in the short or medium term.
1749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: April 22, 2023, 03:48:35 AM
Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Lol. I recommend everyone to watch this video.

Is AI Killing Poker? Phil Galfond

The bottom line is that he is moderately optimistic.

Bots have been around for a long time and in recent years artificial intelligence tools applied to poker have been improved, but for the moment I'm still not a professional (but a regular) and I still have no problem making a profit from poker on a regular basis.

Even in a hypothetical scenario in which AI tools would be used massively online (a scenario that is not going to happen) there will always be poker in person. And anyway, online poker has already been a leverage in terms of technology because regular and professional players use statistics programs, calculators, equity, solvers... these are all tools that did not exist 30 years ago. We can't complain about a step forward in technology.
1750  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Inactive BTC whale transfers $8M worth Bitcoin After 10 years Inactivity on: April 22, 2023, 03:06:29 AM
How come a holder did not transfer his bitcoins after being inactive for ten years i.e. in 2021 when the price of bitcoins peaked, but in today's down market why did he transfer his bitcoins?

As colleagues have said, we can't know, but getting the high point of a bull market right is very difficult, and I remind you that back then, we all expected the peak of the cycle to be much higher. $150K ATH was a bearish prediction for what was being said at the time.

Now you may be short the money, is what I would imagine. By transferring to 3 addresses he is probably not going to spend it all but at least one of them is still HODLing, but this is just a guess.
1751  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Markets in Crypto Assets Regulation (MiCA) discussions on: April 22, 2023, 02:55:21 AM
MiCA got approved by the EU parliament.
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/04/21/with-mica-past-the-finish-line-uks-crypto-industry-calls-for-rules-of-its-own/

I don't get why some people are praising it for being the first crypto rule book, like it's a good thing that they're putting a leash on its users. At this point it's going to be harder to legally use cryptocurrencies than fiat money.

I'm not sure how this is going to end up regarding their plans to make both parties go through KYC when transaction is over 1k EUR. The plan was for a registered institution, like an exchange, to have to know the owner of the address it's sending coins to, which was completely ridiculous.

Well, not surprisingly, it is in line with what is expected for the European Union but I don't see it as ridiculous, although I'm not saying I agree with it. They simply want exchanges to operate KYC/AML like banks. The only positive is the €1K threshold below which those involved in a transaction do not have to be identified.

Nobody is going to use exchanges in the EU if that becomes a rule. Fortunately we have until 2025 for them to make up their minds. Maybe we'll have one last bull market before they kill trading in Europe.

Well, in principle this could move some of the use of exchanges out of Europe, but do you see anywhere in the world a big libertarian movement that will allow the use of Bitcoin as Satoshi dreamed? Lol, no, certainly not. What I think is that what will happen in the rest of the world is that little by little they will implement restrictive legislation like this.

1752  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Gary, tell us what is Ethereum? on: April 21, 2023, 04:15:13 AM
It is clear to me that it is a security, so I don't know why he said it clearly before but avoided saying it in that appearance. Basically Bitcoin is a commodity because it does not depend on a central authority and the supply cannot be increased at will, something similar to what is happening with gold and other commodities.  Obviously this is not the case with Ethereum and shitcoins, which are more like bonds issued by a company, which are dependent on a central authority, that company, and can be increased at will.
1753  Economy / Economics / Re: Scarcity and scale of preference on: April 21, 2023, 03:43:36 AM
I do not think that this saying is correct. When our requirements were primitive, man discovered wood, which was burned to obtain fire and the beginning of energy. After the needs increased, coal appeared, including steam locomotives and internal combustion engines. Then oil appeared and the aviation industry developed. Therefore, when human needs increase, resources develop in return. necessary to cover these needs.

I remember 100 years ago, people did not know about oil, and even when it appeared, they were not aware of this wealth, so the next wealth may be close or even outside the planet. Wink

It is not. What the OP expresses is the Malthusian garbage vision, which proved to be wrong and maybe if we wait a long time it will become true, but like someone who predicts that tomorrow it will rain, and when the sun rises he predicts again that it will rain the next day, to do it again and again indefinitely until it finally rains. With 8 billion people and growing it could be that in the end we will have a problem of resources on earth, but when societies become richer population growth moderates and even reverses, so it remains to be seen if we will ever reach that catastrophic scenario. What we know to date is that no, Malthus was wrong, because human creativity and productivity go far beyond his imagination.
1754  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Laszlo Hanyecz see it as 10,000 BTC or as $41? on: April 21, 2023, 03:31:51 AM
I think he saw it as ‘I ran this program on my computer for a couple days and got a couple of free pizzas, cool.’

When I first started mining BTC, that’s how I thought. I’d let my computer run for a week and then I’d get an ounce of silver in the mail. It was amazing. I didn’t think of it as a $ amount or a BTC amount. I thought of it as X amount of work to get Y. I’m hindsight, I should have obviously coveted BTC like it was my next breath.

This is the logical thing to do. There is a lot of repetition on the forum about 1BTC= 1BTC which is nonsense because it is either a tautology that does not contribute anything or it is simply false because of the purchasing power.

The purchasing power of 10,000BTC at that time was enough for two pizzas, period. At that time Lazlo would see it as $41 or as two pizzas but he sure wouldn't see it as $250M which is the purchasing power they have now.
1755  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is going down. on: April 21, 2023, 03:23:38 AM
Market corrections are actually a great opportunity to stock up on additional bitcoin because as the bull run is about to start, some traders tend to regret their decisions while others are extremely pleased with them. Although a market correction could occur at any time, the chart appears to be in a decline since a few days ago. Bitcoin's price will eventually increase because it is so erratic. The bull season is still to come, but before we can start enjoying trade winnings, we must be patient. Bitcoin will consolidate shortly.

Exactly. You have to take a long term view and not start crying because it drops from $30K to $27K. You have to look ahead 5 or 10 years. A cycle view at least. Prices now will be seen as a bargain in the future, just like we now see prices from previous cycles as a bargain, where a lot of people were crying because the price dropped from $1.1K to $900 and things like that.
1756  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where can I invest 4k bitcoin on: April 21, 2023, 03:15:54 AM
I don't think that you can make anywhere close to $100 a day with $4k or even $8k by investing in crypto.

The OP wants to get a 75% monthly return on this investment, which means an annual return of 900%, which is impossible. By taking that return and reinvesting the profits, after one year he would have more than $3M. If he manages to do it, he'd better tell us the secret to see if we become millionaires quickly too.
1757  Other / Meta / Re: locked thread for no reason on: April 20, 2023, 04:25:23 AM
Perhaps the moderator considered that 5 pages is enough to get an exhaustive answer.

Actually, I think more threads should be locked when they go beyond page 5, and I personally rarely respond to threads that are longer than that. If we talk specifically about the Gambling section, all the more reason to do so.
1758  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Geeky crypto thief, 32, jailed for hiding $3billion in Bitcoin in popcorn tin on: April 20, 2023, 04:06:55 AM
What a fucking moron that guy. Stealing bitcoins and instead of using it for something worthwhile like idk, doing something about his physique (no fatshaming), he used it to tip hoes? That was rich.
Classic old case of "If I have more money more girls will talk to me", although wouldn't really put that much blame to him since he admitted to his crimes and because well, he's mentally disabled.

By mentally disabled, do you mean autistic? Well, some autistic people can be intelligent, but autism does cause problems in relating to others, although I don't know to what extent in his case since he studied at the University.

On the other hand it is pathetic that he spent a lot of money to try to impress women and didn't attract them. I imagine that the ones in the photos are escorts. Very strange because a guy with a lot of money always attracts women interested, no matter how ugly he is, who wants to get his money but at least he fucks them. The article also states that he abused cocaine and alcohol.

Let him serve his sentence, I have no pity for thieves, scammers, or hackers.

Me neither.
1759  Other / Meta / Re: The J.A.R.V.I.S AutoReply Protocol Initiative (JARPI) - Powered by ChatGPT on: April 20, 2023, 03:40:41 AM
You did not refer to anyone in particular, but as I am one of those who expressed my opinion, I feel called out, so I will answer you. Personally, I consider it an insult that you put us in the same category by citing the example of those people who hate Bitcoin from the bottom of their souls because it does not fit into their business philosophies.

I think I've been known to not hold my tongue if I want to insult someone in the forum, so your perception does not coincide with my intention.

Think of it this way: first, personal human interaction was replaced by electronic communication, and now we risk ending up only talking to electronics. Call me old-fashioned, but I don't like it. If I want to interact with a computer, I'll use a Search Engine or spambot myself.

I deny the premise, human interaction was not replaced by electronic communication. Or do you live in a cave and only interact with others by typing on your computer? Some human interaction was replaced by electronic communication in the areas where it was most productive and useful.

1760  Economy / Speculation / Re: Office halving argument on: April 20, 2023, 03:25:07 AM
By our calculation and agreement, bitcoin can sleep between $150k-350K by January 2025. Don't dull yourself, gather the money you can gather. Don't say I did not warn you for this lifetime investment.

Halvings can only account for bitcoin's supply, not necessarily the demand. Theoretically, even with literally zero remaining mining rewards, the price still wouldn't go that high if there wasn't a good amount of demand. So can you tell us how you made that calculation?

This is just their calculation where it doesn't have any strong proof that it might came.

In the end, speculation is based on many assumptions, such as that halving will have a positive impact on the price. I think all, or almost all of us on the forum assume that the demand for Bitcoin will continue to grow over the years. I hope in fact that it is true what is said that today we are in terms of Bitcoin usage as in internet usage in the year 2000 or so. So if demand grows and supply shrinks with halvings the price can only go up.

I do believe, as I commented in a thread, that the returns as the cycles progress will tend to decrease in percentage terms, to be more modest. So, for the next cycle I think pretty sure we will pass $100k but I doubt more that we will pass $200k. I would like to see it, but we'll have to see.
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