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1141  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: August 31, 2015, 04:01:07 PM
I don't know the other side of the story. I am judging by what is posted here and for the moment it seems that only dogie is complaining. Do you know the other side? You don't, but it seems that you made your judgement already without hearing the other side story.

I'm judging by what is posted here too, the fact that only dogie is complaining about not receiving his commision tends to suggest that he's the only one this has happened too.  Therefore its not a huge leap to assume that this may be personal based on the previous relationship.  Note that I said assume, I haven't made my mind up and Guy is welcome to join in and post the other side of the story.

There are others, but as their largest affiliate by quite a way I'm more likely to make noise than someone owed $100 who's forgotten about it. They also pulled the terms changing twice on me and less likely anyone else as I joined from day 0.
1142  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: August 31, 2015, 01:51:14 AM
Here are the jet engines.

Jet Engines

There's a big reason why there are two if these fans. I wouldn't even recommend wasting money on quieter fans. If anything you could maybe replace one of the jet engines with a quieter fan, but not both.
Nah that must be a bigger brother, there's no way its a 3.3A fan. We know the S5 likes to spam a 100% PWM signal at a reasonable temp and that's 4200RPM so this must be a bigger brother. At 3.3A the S5+ would be putting 240W through the controller board.
1143  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: August 30, 2015, 02:20:22 PM
Day-night rates never pay for mining, as a flat usage pattern will cost more on that sort of tariff. I don't have any sort of climate charge and standing fee is about £1 a day.
At the time 11.2p was the best I could get on a normal tarriff so it did work out cheaper.

Not sure how you manage to avoid the CCL, and 8p is a very low price so you are lucky.

I was on 14.04p with SSE but just got on a SSE 12 Month fixed offer at 9.43p. So will be able to make a little money until BTC Halving, after that very little chance other than using them as low cost heaters.

Have never seen a single rate tarrif at 8p, does that include VAT & who is it with?

I think its 8.42 inc 5% VAT, with "Extra Energy". They must be a regional / small one as I'd never heard of them until I moved here.
1144  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: August 30, 2015, 01:19:13 PM
Mining still dead in the UK at $0.23, and shipping to a host is probably going to be a year to breakeven when the inevitable diff rises happen so no new machines for me Sad
Who are you with, I'm on 8p/KWh (0.12$/KWh).

I'm currently with Eon on a business tariff, I was spending around £1500-£2000 a month and shopped around for the best deal which at the time was

11.83p day rate
6.76p night rate.

Which is an average of 10.56p, then add on the standing charge, climate charge (which goes up quite high when you start spending the above amount) and VAT** and you are up to 15p = $0.23

Now granted electric rates might have come down since then, but I only have a Titan left here, everything else has been sold or shipped abroad.

** I know you will mention claiming the VAT back as we have had this conversation before, but according to my accountant and further consultation with HMRC, because the item that you are selling (BTC) does not atrract VAT, you cannot claim the VAT back for the process of making them.  You can claim the VAT back on buying the machines as you charge it when you sell them.

Day-night rates never pay for mining, as a flat usage pattern will cost more on that sort of tariff. I don't have any sort of climate charge and standing fee is about £1 a day.
1145  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [Closed] Dogie's BITMAIN AntMiner S7 "Guess the Price" [Prize] on: August 30, 2015, 01:02:31 PM
Winner of the main prize pool was (0.15BTC):
Code:
carlosmnk       7.9875
Runners up of the main prize pool were (0.05BTC):
Code:
BombaUcigasa    8.34
xZork           8.451
Lboss           7.4

Winner of the hero+ side prize pool was (0.15BTC):
Code:
BombaUcigasa   8.34
Runners up of the hero+ side prize pool were (0.05BTC):
Code:
Meech          5.83
Freedomno1     5.675
Chris_Sabian   4.88

Honorary hero+ runners up for just missing out (0.05BTC):
Code:
Tigggger       4.75
cakir          11.2

All prize payments can be seen here: https://blockchain.info/tx/29cc1a0656c790385419305a752332f4607193a1624016ee7dd92d9d16f14889
1146  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: August 30, 2015, 10:48:46 AM
Mining still dead in the UK at $0.23, and shipping to a host is probably going to be a year to breakeven when the inevitable diff rises happen so no new machines for me Sad
Who are you with, I'm on 8p/KWh (0.12$/KWh).
1147  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: August 30, 2015, 10:41:50 AM
Don't base your opinion on a single isolated incident like this reported by a (very) problematic dude without hearing the other side story.

Do you know the other side of the story or are you cheerleading ?

We all know that dogie/sp had a heated relationship mainly due the rating in his manufacturers guide, so it appears on the outside to be personal on SP's part.

dogie, If you aren't going the legal route, it at least deserves a post in the scam accusations board.
It was partly an excuse they used in order to discredit me so any claims against them would
a) make it look like there was a 'revenge' reason for me claiming the debt
b) hold less merit if I were to appear untrustworthy
c) make them look better when trying raise money from investors. Apparently 92/100 was an insult but still worthy of hours of abusive comments, rather than - you know - actually looking for investors.

I am on the legal route and I'll open a scam accusation if these posts get deleted. Guy is usually pretty good about leaving criticism up and only really deletes the random racist stuff.
1148  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Dogie's BITMAIN AntMiner S7 "Guess the Price" [Prize] on: August 30, 2015, 09:41:18 AM
since the btc price has changed almost every time i refreshed the page.. i think its going to be hard to just pick one winner..

this is why i initially said we should pick our price in usd..
Its still better for you to know the value of your guesses by doing it in BTC.
1149  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: August 30, 2015, 09:33:21 AM
The difference here is that the S7 has two fans and temperature control / cutoff, as well as much higher quality heatsinks.

How do the heatsinks on the other side of the board look like? Are they glued on also?

Very similar to S5+. I don't know how these will be attached but the early S5+ heatsinks were thermal taped and the later ones thermal glue'ed.
1150  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Request for Discussion: proposal for standard modular rack miner on: August 30, 2015, 09:18:39 AM
I tend to think of Spondoolies first when I think of power density, and I've never had one run nearly as well as advertised because they were so finicky about heat. Add the order of magnitude complexity increase because of their 100W BGA idea to insane internal temperatures and they're actually sorta terrible. There comes a point where density murders reliability, and reliability is one of my primary design requirements.
I don't believe that any of their problems are due to heat at all, if ambient is high the fans scale or the frequency / voltage scales down. The real problem is the custom controller's high failure rates out of warranty, the entire setup is crazy complicated.
1151  Other / Meta / Re: Can Forum Mods see our IP? on: August 30, 2015, 09:15:15 AM
Sounds like someones been scamming and is now scared. Right?
1152  Other / Meta / Re: Account Establishment on: August 30, 2015, 09:14:22 AM
Keep contributing to the forum in a constructive manner.
1153  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: August 30, 2015, 09:11:53 AM
So,Spoondolies is going the way of KnC Huh Imagine that......whoda thunk Huh  Roll Eyes

Don't base your opinion on a single isolated incident like this reported by a (very) problematic dude without hearing the other side story.
And the shill arrives, I bet you paid your sales commissions for the group buy, right? Go ahead, you can ask Guy if he owes me money, if he's paid it and what his plans are for paying it. Or how many affiliates have outstanding balances that aren't being paid.


How big is Spondoolies own mine?  Grin

We are not self-mining with these miners as a matter of principle, except the standard burn-in tests.
Pretty sure its common knowledge that this hasn't been true for a while, both with the BTCS tie up and the returned hardware they run themselves. During product releases they weren't putting units on racks to compete against their customers though.
1154  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: August 30, 2015, 09:08:08 AM
  • Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C

Operating Temp is really low 40C?  Other miners as well as bitmain units operated up to 60C.

That is only 104F or so.  Hope you got air conditioning or live in a northern region.

The S5 has a limit of 35C. These are ambient temps, but I can see a data center getting higher than 40C and certainly higher than 35C without AC.

I'm sure there's many S5's that have been running at ambient temps above 35C in the past couple months. Any performance issues?
[This is ambient temp, not reported chip temp]


After my experience with a burning AsicMiner Prisma with ~1100 watts passing through a very small area, I think that I will pass on this miner.  That is just too much power in a tiny area in the event of a fan or cooling failure.
The difference here is that the S7 has two fans and temperature control / cutoff, as well as much higher quality heatsinks.
1155  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: August 29, 2015, 08:25:20 PM
Congrats on launching this, Bitmain ! Very impressive specs.

I'm more interested to see BM1385's voltage curve as we didn't get one this time. It doesn't feel like .25 is the limit and like the S3 to the S4 and the S5 to the S4+ we could see even high efficiencies on a theoretical S8.
1156  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: August 29, 2015, 07:30:48 PM
1210 watts quoted "at the wall" - an EVGA 1300 would have about 10% power reserve, even my favorite Seasonic X1250s have some power in reserve.
Indeed. Some of the more common official peak ratings are in my PSU guide, although for 24/7 its still going to officially be the stated rating. That being said, I've ran many corsair PSUs past their limits in challenging conditions and they've done fine.
1157  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: August 29, 2015, 04:01:16 PM
Admin: Please BAN the account.
Stop quoting the scam -_-
1158  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Dogie's BITMAIN AntMiner S7 "Guess the Price" [Prize] on: August 29, 2015, 03:46:52 PM
BombaUcigasa 8.34 1Bomba9yrDggkZNvYUD1Vr4oeif9mgFKfT

So close... yet so far... this exchange rate is just not to be trusted...

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020150827084021471OHYdwd9D06A0

Price:    1823 USD   ( 7.974 BTC )

carlosmnk    7.9875   33LFiyTHN1WZYe4HJH85iW9sSc4YvhxxcJ

Looks like we have a winner?

There will be many winners, I'll go through the entries in a bit. There is no reason for anyone to edit their post, if you edit your entry after the announcement time then your entry will be discarded.
1159  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: August 28, 2015, 08:48:50 PM
Its not under NDA (both a non confidential activity and pre-exists the NDA which was signed for a very specific purpose). tldr they received a huge sale from my affiliate link, retrospectively changed the terms from a much higher tiered commission rate down to a flat %, then retrospectively changed the amount to be store credit, both of which breached their original agreement. The ~$50k is just what they admit to (but won't pay).

That's pretty scummy of them, 50k is surely worth involving lawyers.

Yea but were talking international laws.   Will be a pricey battle and lawyers don't come cheap.  And add a specialization of international sounds like a pricey case.

But holy cow on amount.   Did you use links that you can show all this or counting on Spondoolies on data?

They locked me out of the system when they went through they "disown dogie he's bad for bitcoin" phase, as if I was the bad guy. [Because I asked for payment and was refused]. They've sent plenty of data, there is no question from either side that they owe a commission for this (and lots of other) sales. This is with the manually set 5%, but I was actually on a tiered commission as follows:



Code:
    5% for conversions of up to $100,000 in one quarter
    10% for conversions between $100,000 and $500,000 in one quarter
    15% if you cross the $500,000 bar in one quarter

Approaching June 2014 I had met the first $100k of sales, and so was already on the 10% rate. The actual commission for that sale is therefore $96,100, which along with lots of smaller ones exceeds $100,000 that is unpaid.
1160  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: August 28, 2015, 02:07:24 PM
I'm pretty sure dogie had posted some minor details, but either that's deleted, or edited away.  I only remember because I thought "... why hasn't Bicknellski commented on this yet?", and it's then that I realized Bick had not been around for a while.

Anyway, you can still piece together a few things:
I'm owed $134.50 in commission for a couple of sales while running their signature but because I signed up to the hardware option he's not prepared to offer me it in btc or cash even though there isn't a hardware option and probably never will be.

Its a shame, I'm owed at least 400x more than you and still also $0 from them.
400 * $134.50 = $53,800.  And they say there's little profit in Bitcoin

As I've said in other threads, its far more money than Bitmain has ever, ever, ever paid and yet the trolls will claim I'm biased against Spondoolies because Bitmain contracted me for work Roll Eyes. Its also worth noting that both CanaanCreative and Bitmain paid their invoices on time, Spondoolies has not paid a penny.

Its not under NDA (both a non confidential activity and pre-exists the NDA which was signed for a very specific purpose). tldr they received a huge sale from my affiliate link, retrospectively changed the terms from a much higher tiered commission rate down to a flat %, then retrospectively changed the amount to be store credit, both of which breached their original agreement. The ~$50k is just what they admit to (but won't pay).
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