Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[1aguar]

Popcorn1,
You say you have not been presented with proof, but you have consistently ignored evidence in an attempt to deny my proof. You never replied to my post below because the evidence supporting the afterlife is overwhelming; from that evidence I deduce a creator, so the proof has been provided to you but you chose not to think about it.

Yes, I did present 52 points of evidence for your evaluation; where is your rational response?
www.near-death.com/evidence.html
You don't even realize your stories are contradicted by facts because you never investigated the evidence in the first place.

I have told you about the 52 points ...as i told you before its your brains way of making you feel comfortable before you die..like when you have a bad accident you don.t feel pain till 10 to 15 mins after
what more do you want me to say..

I want you to stop making up stories that equate an untested and hypothetical explanation with a theory based on empirical data.

Fact is that there is hard data supporting the idea that brain chemistry cannot explain this phenomena, and you did not read it, so now I have to quote it for you; for example...

Many skeptical arguments against the survival theory are actually arguments from pseudo-skeptics who often think they have no burden of proof. Such arguments are often based on scientism with assumptions that survival is impossible even though survival has not been ruled out. Faulty conclusions are often made such as, "Because NDEs have a brain chemical connection then survival is impossible." Pseudo-skeptical arguments are sometimes made that do not consider the entire body of circumstantial evidence supporting the possibility of survival or do not consider the possibility of new paradigms. Such pseudo-skeptical claims are often made without any scientific evidence.

[many points of evidence were mentioned]
...
OK, so this is more than sufficient to demolish your claim that the NDE can be explained by brain chemistry alone; it is obvious that you did not read too much of the evidence...

but as i have stated even if there is an afterlife why would there still be a god would this not just what happens when we die..

I have posted my proof of God, I have refuted your disagreement on the first (inductive/scientific) point, so what is wrong with the rest of my proof which only uses deduction once the survival hypothesis is accepted? Please quote my proof and point out the logical error.

AT LEAST WITH AN ATHEIST WE ASK FOR PROOF AND THEN THE PROBLEM IS SOLVED ..

Oh really? Maybe a rational atheist can solve a problem by using rational thinking, but you have not.

A pseudo-skeptic like yourself will ask for proof and try to discredit the empirical evidence for the afterlife by making up stories about why that evidence might be wrong without really investigating the evidence or by backing up his/her stories with facts, or in other words IGNORING the proof; then, s/he will go on believing whatever s/he wants to believe, thinking that the problem is solved.

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[BitNow]

Genesis 1:1,2:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

There is the answer to time and space, right in the first 2 verses of the Bible. If you don't understand how it is saying time and space, go back to school. Or at least read on in Genesis for some hints.

Man, there is no word Time neither Space in this verse of the Genesis, neither in all Genesis there is a verse that says that God invented Time and/or Space.

If you think that verse says that God invented Time and/or Space is your invention. Is not write in there neither it has something to do with me going "back to school".

I'm sorry you don't understand simple English: language is a powerful tool for mutual understanding.

It I were a priest I will prey for you for more understanding, cause I'm an engineer I can only say to you that you need to read more carefully the above verse of the Genesis you mentioned and the whole book of Genesis and I guarantee you, you won't find a verse that says: God created Time and Space.

There is no such statement ("God created Time and Space") in the whole Bible.


Thank You for the discussion.


Best Regards.

[gampher]

Fact is knowledge. Knowledge is fact.

Seriously ? satoshi is dead is knowledge but is he really dead is not a fact ...its undisclose
of course fact can be knowledge but knowledge need not be fact.

[BADecker]

Genesis 1:1,2:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

There is the answer to time and space, right in the first 2 verses of the Bible. If you don't understand how it is saying time and space, go back to school. Or at least read on in Genesis for some hints.

Man, there is no word Time neither Space in this verse of the Genesis, neither in all Genesis there is a verse that says that God invented Time and/or Space.

If you think that verse says that God invented Time and/or Space is your invention. Is not write in there neither it has something to do with me going "back to school".

I'm sorry you don't understand simple English: language is a powerful tool for mutual understanding.

It I were a priest I will prey for you for more understanding, cause I'm an engineer I can only say to you that you need to read more carefully the above verse of the Genesis you mentioned and the whole book of Genesis and I guarantee you, you won't find a verse that says: God created Time and Space.

There is no such statement ("God created Time and Space") in the whole Bible.


Thank You for the discussion.


Best Regards.

And here, all this time, I thought I was speaking with someone who had the ability to think.

Oh well. Back to the examinations of life.

[Gimpeline]

Genesis 1:1,2:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

There is the answer to time and space, right in the first 2 verses of the Bible. If you don't understand how it is saying time and space, go back to school. Or at least read on in Genesis for some hints.

Man, there is no word Time neither Space in this verse of the Genesis, neither in all Genesis there is a verse that says that God invented Time and/or Space.

If you think that verse says that God invented Time and/or Space is your invention. Is not write in there neither it has something to do with me going "back to school".

I'm sorry you don't understand simple English: language is a powerful tool for mutual understanding.

It I were a priest I will prey for you for more understanding, cause I'm an engineer I can only say to you that you need to read more carefully the above verse of the Genesis you mentioned and the whole book of Genesis and I guarantee you, you won't find a verse that says: God created Time and Space.

There is no such statement ("God created Time and Space") in the whole Bible.


Thank You for the discussion.


Best Regards.

And here, all this time, I thought I was speaking with someone who had the ability to think.

Oh well. Back to the examinations of life.

Sounds like you are judging him. Hell next stop?

[BADecker]

Genesis 1:1,2:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

There is the answer to time and space, right in the first 2 verses of the Bible. If you don't understand how it is saying time and space, go back to school. Or at least read on in Genesis for some hints.

Man, there is no word Time neither Space in this verse of the Genesis, neither in all Genesis there is a verse that says that God invented Time and/or Space.

If you think that verse says that God invented Time and/or Space is your invention. Is not write in there neither it has something to do with me going "back to school".

I'm sorry you don't understand simple English: language is a powerful tool for mutual understanding.

It I were a priest I will prey for you for more understanding, cause I'm an engineer I can only say to you that you need to read more carefully the above verse of the Genesis you mentioned and the whole book of Genesis and I guarantee you, you won't find a verse that says: God created Time and Space.

There is no such statement ("God created Time and Space") in the whole Bible.


Thank You for the discussion.


Best Regards.

And here, all this time, I thought I was speaking with someone who had the ability to think.

Oh well. Back to the examinations of life.

Sounds like you are judging him. Hell next stop?

How can I judge him, or you for that matter? I can only judge the things you jokers say.

[BitNow]

...omissis...

And here, all this time, I thought I was speaking with someone who had the ability to think.

Oh well. Back to the examinations of life.

Sounds like you are judging him. Hell next stop?

How can I judge him, or you for that matter? I can only judge the things you jokers say.

He's not judging me he's saying that we are jokers but then he has not the balls to carry forward his statement.

He's afraid of G-d.

So next time give me reason: atheism is a sin and atheists need to die.

This way we can avoid this childish discussion and avoid losing 2 months of time, because as you were not able to point time can be not created by G-d, but, as it appears, is rather important for, in the last instance, because Time is what Life is made and 2 months of time is a lot of Life lost.

"Atheism is a sin and its punishment is death".


Best regards.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

...omissis...

And here, all this time, I thought I was speaking with someone who had the ability to think.

Oh well. Back to the examinations of life.

Sounds like you are judging him. Hell next stop?

How can I judge him, or you for that matter? I can only judge the things you jokers say.

He's not judging me he's saying that we are jokers but then he has not the balls to carry forward his statement.

He's afraid of G-d.

So next time give me reason: atheism is a sin and atheists need to die.

This way we can avoid this childish discussion and avoid losing 2 months of discussion.


Best regards.

As Christians, we should never wish for an atheist to die. We should pray for them to be saved.

The Lord loves everyone and wishes they will all be saved.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

[BADecker]

...omissis...

And here, all this time, I thought I was speaking with someone who had the ability to think.

Oh well. Back to the examinations of life.

Sounds like you are judging him. Hell next stop?

How can I judge him, or you for that matter? I can only judge the things you jokers say.

He's not judging me he's saying that we are jokers but then he has not the balls to carry forward his statement.

He's afraid of G-d.

So next time give me reason: atheism is a sin and atheists need to die.

This way we can avoid this childish discussion and avoid losing 2 months of time, because as you were not able to point time can be not created by G-d, but, as it appears, is rather important for, in the last instance, because Time is what Life is made and 2 months of time is a lot of Life lost.

"Atheism is a sin and atheists need to die"


Best regards.

If I am afraid of God, you are much more afraid of Him. How do we know? You can't even say God. All you can say is G-d. Big chicken.

[BADecker]

...omissis...

And here, all this time, I thought I was speaking with someone who had the ability to think.

Oh well. Back to the examinations of life.

Sounds like you are judging him. Hell next stop?

How can I judge him, or you for that matter? I can only judge the things you jokers say.

He's not judging me he's saying that we are jokers but then he has not the balls to carry forward his statement.

He's afraid of G-d.

So next time give me reason: atheism is a sin and atheists need to die.

This way we can avoid this childish discussion and avoid losing 2 months of discussion.


Best regards.

As Christians, we should never wish for an atheist to die. We should pray for them to be saved.

The Lord loves everyone and wishes they will all be saved.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

True.

But the evidence so far seems to be that we all die. So, if there wasn't a need for people to die, God wouldn't have kicked us out of the Garden, to keep us from eating of the fruit of the Tree of Life, and living forever because of it.

[BitNow]

If I am afraid of God, you are much more afraid of Him. How do we know? You can't even say God. All you can say is G-d. Big chicken.

What's your purpose in Life: offending others?

Thank You.


Best regards.


To all (believers):
I thought that when we answer the question: "Why do atheists hate Religion?" we infer that atheists we are talking about are men.

I will switch this thread title to: "Why do atheists men hate Religion?" for the future, so I'll know we are talking about men.


Best regards.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

...omissis...

And here, all this time, I thought I was speaking with someone who had the ability to think.

Oh well. Back to the examinations of life.

Sounds like you are judging him. Hell next stop?

How can I judge him, or you for that matter? I can only judge the things you jokers say.

He's not judging me he's saying that we are jokers but then he has not the balls to carry forward his statement.

He's afraid of G-d.

So next time give me reason: atheism is a sin and atheists need to die.

This way we can avoid this childish discussion and avoid losing 2 months of discussion.


Best regards.

As Christians, we should never wish for an atheist to die. We should pray for them to be saved.

The Lord loves everyone and wishes they will all be saved.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

True.

But the evidence so far seems to be that we all die. So, if there wasn't a need for people to die, God wouldn't have kicked us out of the Garden, to keep us from eating of the fruit of the Tree of Life, and living forever because of it.

Well obviously. But there's no difference in atheists should die versus Christians should die, versus others should die. We all should die at some point. But BitNow said "atheism is a sin and atheists need to die." and you can change it to "everyone sins and everyone needs to die". There's no need to call out athesists as if they're special in that regard.

[BitNow]

Well obviously. But there's no difference in atheists should die versus Christians should die, versus others should die. We all should die at some point. But BitNow said "atheism is a sin and atheists need to die." and you can change it to "everyone sins and everyone needs to die". There's no need to call out athesists as if they're special in that regard.

Are you afraid of my words? Face the reality and discuss for the words not for what you are afraid of.

Thank You.


Best regards.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Well obviously. But there's no difference in atheists should die versus Christians should die, versus others should die. We all should die at some point. But BitNow said "atheism is a sin and atheists need to die." and you can change it to "everyone sins and everyone needs to die". There's no need to call out athesists as if they're special in that regard.

Are you afraid of my words? Face the reality and discuss for the words not for what you are afraid of.

Thank You.


Best regards.

I already responded to your post. You can respond to my response if you'd like. I'm not afraid.

[BitNow]

Well obviously. But there's no difference in atheists should die versus Christians should die, versus others should die. We all should die at some point. But BitNow said "atheism is a sin and atheists need to die." and you can change it to "everyone sins and everyone needs to die". There's no need to call out athesists as if they're special in that regard.

Are you afraid of my words? Face the reality and discuss for the words not for what you are afraid of.

Thank You.


Best regards.

I already responded to your post. You can respond to my response if you'd like. I'm not afraid.

I replied this to BADecker thusands of times.

I will say to you, because 2 months are lots and we cannot lose more time on that.

As Christians, we should never wish for an atheist to die. We should pray for them to be saved.

The Lord loves everyone and wishes they will all be saved.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Sentence: "Atheism is a sin and it's pusnishment is death".

• 1. Atheism is idolatry's sin for the 1st Commandement: "I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
  Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
• 2. The punishment for the sin of idolatry is death as seen in the Golden Calf episode and enforced by Moses.
  Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf

Best regards.

[BADecker]

...omissis...

And here, all this time, I thought I was speaking with someone who had the ability to think.

Oh well. Back to the examinations of life.

Sounds like you are judging him. Hell next stop?

How can I judge him, or you for that matter? I can only judge the things you jokers say.

He's not judging me he's saying that we are jokers but then he has not the balls to carry forward his statement.

He's afraid of G-d.

So next time give me reason: atheism is a sin and atheists need to die.

This way we can avoid this childish discussion and avoid losing 2 months of discussion.


Best regards.

As Christians, we should never wish for an atheist to die. We should pray for them to be saved.

The Lord loves everyone and wishes they will all be saved.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

True.

But the evidence so far seems to be that we all die. So, if there wasn't a need for people to die, God wouldn't have kicked us out of the Garden, to keep us from eating of the fruit of the Tree of Life, and living forever because of it.

Well obviously. But there's no difference in atheists should die versus Christians should die, versus others should die. We all should die at some point. But BitNow said "atheism is a sin and atheists need to die." and you can change it to "everyone sins and everyone needs to die". There's no need to call out athesists as if they're special in that regard.

BitNow is simply talking to talk. Remember, she's an engineer. She knows how to use logic better than the way she is expressing.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Well obviously. But there's no difference in atheists should die versus Christians should die, versus others should die. We all should die at some point. But BitNow said "atheism is a sin and atheists need to die." and you can change it to "everyone sins and everyone needs to die". There's no need to call out athesists as if they're special in that regard.

Are you afraid of my words? Face the reality and discuss for the words not for what you are afraid of.

Thank You.


Best regards.

I already responded to your post. You can respond to my response if you'd like. I'm not afraid.

I replied this to BADecker thusands of times.

I will say to you, because 2 months are lots and we cannot lose more time on that.

As Christians, we should never wish for an atheist to die. We should pray for them to be saved.

The Lord loves everyone and wishes they will all be saved.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Sentence: "Atheism is a sin and it's pusnishment is death".

• 1. Atheism is idolatry's sin for the 1st Commandement: "I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments)
• 2. The punishment for the sin of idolatry is death as seen in the Golden Calf episode and enforced by Moses. Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf

Best regards.

Right.... but the judgement isn't coming yet. The Lord is waiting (and we should too) so that they can come to repentance before they're judged.

The Lord loves everyone and wishes they will all be saved.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

[BitNow]

Right.... but the judgement isn't coming yet. The Lord is waiting (and we should too) so that they can come to repentance before they're judged.

The Lord loves everyone and wishes they will all be saved.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

And that's where we disagree: the judgment is coming every day, if not 4 times at least a day.

The Judge is the Pope who is the Vicar of Jesus Christ on Earth.

If I don't go forward with that with an American I will be stuck forever in an eternal Monday morning.


Best regards.

[BADecker]

Right, Bitnow. Words from the guy you think was your first Pope:

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

[BADecker]

Right.... but the judgement isn't coming yet. The Lord is waiting (and we should too) so that they can come to repentance before they're judged.

The Lord loves everyone and wishes they will all be saved.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

And that's where we disagree: the judgment is coming every day, if not 4 times at least a day.

The Judge is the Pope who is the Vicar of Jesus Christ on Earth.

If I don't go forward with that with an American I will be stuck forever in an eternal Monday morning.


Best regards.

I don't blame you for not being able to think any better. Your Popes are constantly disagreeing about stuff, and changing the rules... as they have been down through all the ages. Get back to the Bible for stability.