Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

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I am glad you replied to sorryforthat the way you did. Personally I believe that the Bible clearly speaks about a real Heaven and Hell existing outside of this earthly life. Our life here, since the fall into sin, is more like the Purgatory of the Roman Catholic Church.

The speaking in the Revelation about the New Heavens and the New Earth is a clearer explanation of Heaven. It is a new universe that has different physical laws than this one - a different physics and science.

The Lake of Fire in the Revelation is a smelting pot that melts the eternal soul down into its component parts so that God gets His energy back. Since the soul is eternal, the tearing down of the soul is eternal as well. God can wait for eternity to be over, because He is outside, even, of eternity, although He is eternal at the same time.

I don't agree. We don't have eternal life from the beginning, people won't be burning in hell forever and ever. We are given eternal life through Jesus, or why else would it say Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Our eternal life is a gift, it is not for everyone, but only for those who choose to accept it. The wages of sin are death, not burning forever and ever.

At the beginning there was no death. Death came with sin. Restoration to eternal life through Jesus' work on the cross is the free gift of God to all who will accept it. However, even the ability to accept has been opened up by Jesus' work on the cross.

Evidence of torment forever from Revelation 20:10 and Revelation 20:15:

10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

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15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

However, I think that if we looked for it we could find other places that say more directly that the torment of those who are unsaved will be lasting forever... such as Matthew 25:31-46.

Sodom and Gomorrah was said to burn forever and ever, and it's not burning.

Malachi 4:3 "You will tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day which I am preparing," says the LORD of hosts.

How can they be ashes if they are burning forever?

Revelation 21: 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

The lake of fire will be done away with, and there will be a new heaven, and new earth, and there will be no more pain. He is not going to torture people forever, they will be ashes under our feet.

The eternal bit is because they will be gone forever, not burning forever.

Hell - the Truth about Hell

There is a lot of symbolism. Malachi is before the resurrection, before the lake of fire.

The thing called "eternity" is tied to this universe in its present form. It is not tied to the new universe in its present "eternity" form.

The lake of fire will be the dissolution of the current universe, and will probably even include the suffering and death of Jesus. After all, Jesus took the punishment for the sins of the whole world. While the destruction of and through the lake of fire will take forever in our understanding in this universe, in the understanding of the new universe it will not even be thought about.

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[BADecker]

So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.

Because religious people want to brainwash atheïsts.

Atheists want to brainwash people into thinking that religious people want to brainwash atheists.

[Xubu]

So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.

Because religious people want to brainwash atheïsts.

Atheists want to brainwash people into thinking that religious people want to brainwash atheists.

Makes no sence. Religious people believe in some kind of mysterious GOD, a GOD that doen't even exist. Religious people try to convince atheists to believe in their religion and their GOD.

So who is brainwashing who?

[BADecker]

So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.

Because religious people want to brainwash atheïsts.

Atheists want to brainwash people into thinking that religious people want to brainwash atheists.

Makes no sence. Religious people believe in some kind of mysterious GOD, a GOD that doen't even exist. Religious people try to convince atheists to believe in their religion and their GOD.

So who is brainwashing who?

Some religious people believe in God. Others don't. I have been told that basically, Buddhists don't believe in God, but they certainly have religion.

Since science has proven that God exists, even if an atheist doesn't want to believe such science as proof, the science is at least strong evidence. To not accept such scientific evidence, but rather to make the bold statement that God does not exist, shows that the atheist is treating his atheism belief as a religion.

If you Google or DuckDuckGo search on the words "atheism religion," you will find a lot of evidence that shows that atheism is a religion, or that it is at least close to being a religion.

[Xubu]

So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.

Because religious people want to brainwash atheïsts.

Atheists want to brainwash people into thinking that religious people want to brainwash atheists.

Makes no sence. Religious people believe in some kind of mysterious GOD, a GOD that doen't even exist. Religious people try to convince atheists to believe in their religion and their GOD.

So who is brainwashing who?

Some religious people believe in God. Others don't. I have been told that basically, Buddhists don't believe in God, but they certainly have religion.

Since science has proven that God exists, even if an atheist doesn't want to believe such science as proof, the science is at least strong evidence. To not accept such scientific evidence, but rather to make the bold statement that God does not exist, shows that the atheist is treating his atheism belief as a religion.

If you Google or DuckDuckGo search on the words "atheism religion," you will find a lot of evidence that shows that atheism is a religion, or that it is at least close to being a religion.

There is no proof of god's existence. Here comes the brainwashing part again. They let religious people believe there is proof that there was a god. But there aint.

[BADecker]

So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.

But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.

Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.

Because religious people want to brainwash atheïsts.

Atheists want to brainwash people into thinking that religious people want to brainwash atheists.

Makes no sence. Religious people believe in some kind of mysterious GOD, a GOD that doen't even exist. Religious people try to convince atheists to believe in their religion and their GOD.

So who is brainwashing who?

Some religious people believe in God. Others don't. I have been told that basically, Buddhists don't believe in God, but they certainly have religion.

Since science has proven that God exists, even if an atheist doesn't want to believe such science as proof, the science is at least strong evidence. To not accept such scientific evidence, but rather to make the bold statement that God does not exist, shows that the atheist is treating his atheism belief as a religion.

If you Google or DuckDuckGo search on the words "atheism religion," you will find a lot of evidence that shows that atheism is a religion, or that it is at least close to being a religion.

There is no proof of god's existence. Here comes the brainwashing part again. They let religious people believe there is proof that there was a god. But there aint.

Scientific proof for the existence of God lies in combining these 3 things:
1. Newton's 3rd Law - action and reaction (cause and effect);
2. Our complex universe, especially the mind and brain of mankind;
3. Entropy.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

There is no proof of god's existence. Here comes the brainwashing part again. They let religious people believe there is proof that there was a god. But there aint.

Finding proof of God is much easier than finding proof in the correct god.

If you're honestly curious you need to look into the Intelligent Designer arguments and the problem of irreducible complexity. There is no way our bodies would be built the way they are from evolution because they work too perfectly and some parts could not have grown up that way through evolution. In the video below, the Genes of Genesis, Walter starts talking about the problem of irreducible complexity at 46:10.

Walter Veith was professor/zoologist (and an atheist at the time) of the zoology department at the University of Cape Town and taught in the medical bio-science department. During this time the department was awarded a Royal Society London grant for zoological research.

He also takes on the Big Bang theory in the video series Evolution or Creation? The Earth in Time and Space.

He comes at it from the scientific standpoint, because it's what he knows. Of course, since becoming a Christian, he will mention some bible quotes from time to time, but his discussions are based on scientific study.

105 - The Genes of Genesis / Genesis Conflict - Walter Veith

https://youtu.be/KJ3IgGYf29k?t=23m50s

This is a pretty long video series, but if you are honestly wanting to find out more, then you might want to check this series out:

Dr. Walter Veith - Evolution or Creation? The Earth in Time and Space (Part 1/8)  - https://youtu.be/S9hQKD0vceQ?t=8m50s

Here's a quote from another page, "British philosopher, Dr. Antony Flew, was a leading spokesperson for atheism, actively involved in debate after debate. However, scientific discoveries within the last 30 years brought him to a conclusion he could not avoid. In a video interview in December 2004 he stated, "Super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature."1 Prominent in his conclusion were the discoveries of DNA. Here's why. DNA in our cells is very similar to an intricate computer program. In the photo on the left, you see that a computer program is made up of a series of ones and zeros (called binary code). The sequencing and ordering of these ones and zeros is what makes the computer program work properly.

In the same way, DNA is made up of four chemicals, abbreviated as letters A, T, G, and C. Much like the ones and zeros, these letters are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. The order in which they are arranged instructs the cell's actions.

What is amazing is that within the tiny space in every cell in your body, this code is three billion letters long!!...Perry Marshall, an information specialist, comments on the implications of this. 'There has never existed a computer program that wasn't designed...[whether it is] a code, or a program, or a message given through a language, there is always an intelligent mind behind it.'"

http://www.everystudent.com/wires/Godreal.html

Another page discussing Irreducible Complexity - http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/840

"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
--Charles Darwin, Origin of Species

Also, a proof based on conscience, etc: Proof of God is Inside You | Does God Exist? https://youtu.be/m8_G2877gIU

[BADecker]

There is no proof of god's existence. Here comes the brainwashing part again. They let religious people believe there is proof that there was a god. But there aint.

Finding proof of God is much easier than finding proof in the correct god.

If you're honestly curious you need to look into the Intelligent Designer arguments and the problem of irreducible complexity. There is no way our bodies would be built the way they are from evolution because they work too perfectly and some parts could not have grown up that way through evolution. In the video below, the Genes of Genesis, Walter starts talking about the problem of irreducible complexity at 46:10.

Walter Veith was professor/zoologist (and an atheist at the time) of the zoology department at the University of Cape Town and taught in the medical bio-science department. During this time the department was awarded a Royal Society London grant for zoological research.

He also takes on the Big Bang theory in the video series Evolution or Creation? The Earth in Time and Space.

He comes at it from the scientific standpoint, because it's what he knows. Of course, since becoming a Christian, he will mention some bible quotes from time to time, but his discussions are based on scientific study.

105 - The Genes of Genesis / Genesis Conflict - Walter Veith

https://youtu.be/KJ3IgGYf29k?t=23m50s

This is a pretty long video series, but if you are honestly wanting to find out more, then you might want to check this series out:

Dr. Walter Veith - Evolution or Creation? The Earth in Time and Space (Part 1/8)  - https://youtu.be/S9hQKD0vceQ?t=8m50s

Here's a quote from another page, "British philosopher, Dr. Antony Flew, was a leading spokesperson for atheism, actively involved in debate after debate. However, scientific discoveries within the last 30 years brought him to a conclusion he could not avoid. In a video interview in December 2004 he stated, "Super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature."1 Prominent in his conclusion were the discoveries of DNA. Here's why. DNA in our cells is very similar to an intricate computer program. In the photo on the left, you see that a computer program is made up of a series of ones and zeros (called binary code). The sequencing and ordering of these ones and zeros is what makes the computer program work properly.

In the same way, DNA is made up of four chemicals, abbreviated as letters A, T, G, and C. Much like the ones and zeros, these letters are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. The order in which they are arranged instructs the cell's actions.

What is amazing is that within the tiny space in every cell in your body, this code is three billion letters long!!...Perry Marshall, an information specialist, comments on the implications of this. 'There has never existed a computer program that wasn't designed...[whether it is] a code, or a program, or a message given through a language, there is always an intelligent mind behind it.'"

http://www.everystudent.com/wires/Godreal.html

Another page discussing Irreducible Complexity - http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/840

"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
--Charles Darwin, Origin of Species

Also, a proof based on conscience, etc: Proof of God is Inside You | Does God Exist? https://youtu.be/m8_G2877gIU

You are soooo good. I suppose that I could find all these links, and many others. But I didn't do it. You did.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

You are soooo good. I suppose that I could find all these links, and many others. But I didn't do it. You did.

It doesn't prove the God of the bible, but it does prove Intelligent Design. To ignore Charles Darwin, himself, saying his whole theory "would absolutely break down" based on the information we have now, is just being blind.

[Xubu]

There is no proof of god's existence. Here comes the brainwashing part again. They let religious people believe there is proof that there was a god. But there aint.

Finding proof of God is much easier than finding proof in the correct god.

If you're honestly curious you need to look into the Intelligent Designer arguments and the problem of irreducible complexity. There is no way our bodies would be built the way they are from evolution because they work too perfectly and some parts could not have grown up that way through evolution. In the video below, the Genes of Genesis, Walter starts talking about the problem of irreducible complexity at 46:10.

Walter Veith was professor/zoologist (and an atheist at the time) of the zoology department at the University of Cape Town and taught in the medical bio-science department. During this time the department was awarded a Royal Society London grant for zoological research.

He also takes on the Big Bang theory in the video series Evolution or Creation? The Earth in Time and Space.

He comes at it from the scientific standpoint, because it's what he knows. Of course, since becoming a Christian, he will mention some bible quotes from time to time, but his discussions are based on scientific study.

105 - The Genes of Genesis / Genesis Conflict - Walter Veith

https://youtu.be/KJ3IgGYf29k?t=23m50s

This is a pretty long video series, but if you are honestly wanting to find out more, then you might want to check this series out:

Dr. Walter Veith - Evolution or Creation? The Earth in Time and Space (Part 1/8)  - https://youtu.be/S9hQKD0vceQ?t=8m50s

Here's a quote from another page, "British philosopher, Dr. Antony Flew, was a leading spokesperson for atheism, actively involved in debate after debate. However, scientific discoveries within the last 30 years brought him to a conclusion he could not avoid. In a video interview in December 2004 he stated, "Super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature."1 Prominent in his conclusion were the discoveries of DNA. Here's why. DNA in our cells is very similar to an intricate computer program. In the photo on the left, you see that a computer program is made up of a series of ones and zeros (called binary code). The sequencing and ordering of these ones and zeros is what makes the computer program work properly.

In the same way, DNA is made up of four chemicals, abbreviated as letters A, T, G, and C. Much like the ones and zeros, these letters are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. The order in which they are arranged instructs the cell's actions.

What is amazing is that within the tiny space in every cell in your body, this code is three billion letters long!!...Perry Marshall, an information specialist, comments on the implications of this. 'There has never existed a computer program that wasn't designed...[whether it is] a code, or a program, or a message given through a language, there is always an intelligent mind behind it.'"

http://www.everystudent.com/wires/Godreal.html

Another page discussing Irreducible Complexity - http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/840

"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
--Charles Darwin, Origin of Species

Also, a proof based on conscience, etc: Proof of God is Inside You | Does God Exist? https://youtu.be/m8_G2877gIU

i come back to this when i read and viewed your documentation.

[BADecker]

You are soooo good. I suppose that I could find all these links, and many others. But I didn't do it. You did.

It doesn't prove the God of the bible, but it does prove Intelligent Design. To ignore Charles Darwin, himself, saying his whole theory "would absolutely break down" based on the information we have now, is just being blind.

I thought you were going to reprove me for saying that you are good, when Jesus said that no one is good except God alone.

 

[MakingMoneyHoney]

You are soooo good. I suppose that I could find all these links, and many others. But I didn't do it. You did.

It doesn't prove the God of the bible, but it does prove Intelligent Design. To ignore Charles Darwin, himself, saying his whole theory "would absolutely break down" based on the information we have now, is just being blind.

I thought you were going to reprove me for saying that you are good, when Jesus said that no one is good except God alone.

 

Well that's true, but.... I didn't even register the compliment, lol. As you can see I didn't actually even reply to anything you said. My mind is scattered in multiple lines of thought.

[PrikiNo.1]

Lastly, it seems you are taking the fear of god approach which would mean that we only pray for selfish means to appease a God rather than doing because we feel it is right. God never intended hell as a place for humans to go and in fact would never wish the evil on anyone because he himself would be considered evil. Man is responsible for sending himself to hell. Man must choose that path.

That is the point mate, bravo!

There isn't such a thing as Hell or Paradise. If you carefully read the New Testament you will understand that God use the words Hell and Paradise to explain what did humans did on Earth. In the Revelation of John, John is telling us the story about the fight between Archangel Michael - Seraphim and the Satan. As you can see, Lucifer was banish from the Heaven down to Earth so He can never came back. God first banish us (the humans) and then the Satan.!

We was having that chance to live in the Paradise here, but when we taste from the Tree of Knowledge we loose our minds and start to killing each other. That's why God banish us from Haven down to Earth. At the same time he banish the Satan who lose the fight against the Seraphim.

He can destroy us at any time, but He gave us chance to live with the Devil so we can start to learn what is difference between good and bad. That is the path to the Enlightenment!

I am glad you replied to sorryforthat the way you did. Personally I believe that the Bible clearly speaks about a real Heaven and Hell existing outside of this earthly life. Our life here, since the fall into sin, is more like the Purgatory of the Roman Catholic Church.

The speaking in the Revelation about the New Heavens and the New Earth is a clearer explanation of Heaven. It is a new universe that has different physical laws than this one - a different physics and science.

The Lake of Fire in the Revelation is a smelting pot that melts the eternal soul down into its component parts so that God gets His energy back. Since the soul is eternal, the tearing down of the soul is eternal as well. God can wait for eternity to be over, because He is outside, even, of eternity, although He is eternal at the same time.

I am glad you replied to sorryforthat the way you did. Personally I believe that the Bible clearly speaks about a real Heaven and Hell existing outside of this earthly life. Our life here, since the fall into sin, is more like the Purgatory of the Roman Catholic Church.

You see, that is the difference... You personally believe that the Bible clearly speaks about the real Paradise and Hell and actually never show us where is it. The Bible clearly speaks about Heaven and Earth and that is very different with Paradise and Hell.

If you carefully read the Revelation, you will understand that John is telling us about the war in Heaven. So if the war was actually happen in the Heaven between Archangel Michael and the Satan, then it is normal to be banished here on Earth. And if the Earth was before Paradise like God created it, now is Hell because he banish the Satan from Heaven...

[BADecker]

Lastly, it seems you are taking the fear of god approach which would mean that we only pray for selfish means to appease a God rather than doing because we feel it is right. God never intended hell as a place for humans to go and in fact would never wish the evil on anyone because he himself would be considered evil. Man is responsible for sending himself to hell. Man must choose that path.

That is the point mate, bravo!

There isn't such a thing as Hell or Paradise. If you carefully read the New Testament you will understand that God use the words Hell and Paradise to explain what did humans did on Earth. In the Revelation of John, John is telling us the story about the fight between Archangel Michael - Seraphim and the Satan. As you can see, Lucifer was banish from the Heaven down to Earth so He can never came back. God first banish us (the humans) and then the Satan.!

We was having that chance to live in the Paradise here, but when we taste from the Tree of Knowledge we loose our minds and start to killing each other. That's why God banish us from Haven down to Earth. At the same time he banish the Satan who lose the fight against the Seraphim.

He can destroy us at any time, but He gave us chance to live with the Devil so we can start to learn what is difference between good and bad. That is the path to the Enlightenment!

I am glad you replied to sorryforthat the way you did. Personally I believe that the Bible clearly speaks about a real Heaven and Hell existing outside of this earthly life. Our life here, since the fall into sin, is more like the Purgatory of the Roman Catholic Church.

The speaking in the Revelation about the New Heavens and the New Earth is a clearer explanation of Heaven. It is a new universe that has different physical laws than this one - a different physics and science.

The Lake of Fire in the Revelation is a smelting pot that melts the eternal soul down into its component parts so that God gets His energy back. Since the soul is eternal, the tearing down of the soul is eternal as well. God can wait for eternity to be over, because He is outside, even, of eternity, although He is eternal at the same time.

I am glad you replied to sorryforthat the way you did. Personally I believe that the Bible clearly speaks about a real Heaven and Hell existing outside of this earthly life. Our life here, since the fall into sin, is more like the Purgatory of the Roman Catholic Church.

You see, that is the difference... You personally believe that the Bible clearly speaks about the real Paradise and Hell and actually never show us where is it. The Bible clearly speaks about Heaven and Earth and that is very different with Paradise and Hell.

Jesus said that Heaven and earth will pass away. This means that these things that we know will become non-existent.

Revelation says that there will be New Heavens and a New Earth because the old one had passed away. John saw this new universe come down from God.

How much clearer can one be?

Further, everything that we know and think pertains to this universe. Why? We have been built into the physics of this universe. We can understand no more than the understanding of the physics that makes us allows us to understand.

The fact that we can understand that there is something outside of this universe is something that shows us that we are tremendous beings. However, since we are beings of this universe, there is no way to conceive of "where" the new universe will be, because it will not be inside of this universe, and all we understand are things inside this universe. We can't understand things outside of this universe, because we don't think like that.

If you carefully read the Revelation, you will understand that John is telling us about the war in Heaven. So if the war was actually happen in the Heaven between Archangel Michael and the Satan, then it is normal to be banished here on Earth. And if the Earth was before Paradise like God created it, now is Hell because he banish the Satan from Heaven...

The war in heaven is not the only thing that the Revelation talks about.

God banished Satan to earth, not to Hell.

Indeed, this universe and everything in it will be the Lake of Fire talked about in the Revelation. Yet, we are not experiencing the Lake of Fire, yet. The devil, his angels, the false prophet, and all the people who do not believe in Jesus salvation will be thrown into the Lake of Fire after our universe is converted into the Lake of Fire.

[BTCBinary]

Isn't it obvious why do atheists hate Religion? Throughout history Religion have been the cause for attrocities and torture. Religion was all about not respecting the others. So why wouldn't they hate it?

[BADecker]

Isn't it obvious why do atheists hate Religion? Throughout history Religion have been the cause for attrocities and torture. Religion was all about not respecting the others. So why wouldn't they hate it?

Look at Stalin, one of the greatest supporters of atheism. He murdered as many as a hundred million of his own people who were trusting in their government.

True, religion is the greatest cause of "atrocities and torture." But there is nothing else besides religion. Google or DuckDuckGo search on "atheism religion" and you will see that if atheism isn't religion, it is so close that it is hard to tell the difference.

[Razick]

Yes, people who say they hate Christians are just fulfilling prophecy from the 2,000 year old book they dismiss as only being written by humans.

For a biblical foreknowledge to be valid it must pass ALL these criteria:

1) It must be in the Bible.
2) It must be accurate.
3) It must be unambiguous.
4) It must be improbable.
5) It must have been unknown.

The prophecy you highlighted is false because it failed to satisfy #4.

That one isn't improbable, but that doesn't make it false. It just means it can't be proven to be prophetic. After all, if you said, "the sun will rise tomorrow" no one would call you a liar, they'd just say so what. So no, it's not false, it just can't be proven to be prophetic.

These are better (written centuries before Christ):

Christ will be born in Bethlehem...

Micah 5:2 – “But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, are only a small village in Judah. Yet a ruler of Israel will come from you, one whose origins are from the distant past.”

to a virgin mother...

Isaiah 7:14 – “All right then, the Lord Himself will choose the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call Him Immanuel – ‘God is with us.’”

he will be despised by his own people...

Isaiah 53:1, 3 – “Who has believed our message? To whom will the Lord reveal His saving power? He was despised and rejected – a man of sorrows, acquainted with bitterest grief. We turned our backs on Him and looked the other way when He went by. He was despised, and we did not care.”

and betrayed for 30 pieces of silver (which is what Judas Iscariot was payed to betray Jesus)...

Zechariah 11:12-13 – “And I said unto them, ‘If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. And the Lord said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the Lord.”

and tried and condemned, He will die for the sins of the people...

Isaiah 53:8 – “From prison and trial they led Him away to His death. But who among the people realized that He was dying for their sins – that He was suffering their punishment?”

this one needs a New Testament verse or two to compare...

Psalm 22:7-8 – “Everyone who sees Me, mocks Me. They sneer and shake their heads, saying, ‘Is this the One who relies on the Lord? Then let the Lord save Him! If the Lord loves Him so much, then let the Lord rescue Him!’”

Matthew 27:39-40 – “And the people passing by shouted abuse, shaking their heads in mockery. ‘So! You can destroy the Temple and build it again in three days, can You? Well then, if You are the Son of God, save Yourself and come down from the cross!’”

Luke 23:11, 35 – “Now Herod and his soldiers began mocking and ridiculing Jesus. Then they put a royal robe on Him and sent Him back to Pilate. The crowd watched, and the leaders laughed and scoffed. ‘He saved others,’ they said, ‘let Him save Himself if He is really God’s Chosen One, the Messiah.’”

All of these were fulfilled during Jesus' lifetime, and there are many more as well. For example the Old Testament states that no bone would be broken, and although most victims of crucifixion had their legs broken, He did not.

I'm not here to debate though, read the Bible for yourself and see what you think. It can't hurt right? If you decide it's not true, no harm right? If you decide it is, you'll be saved.

[mustang321]

Atheists dont have to like religions but they have to respect religions , hate mean is look like enemy so it is not good.

[BADecker]

Atheists dont have to like religions but they have to respect religions , hate mean is look like enemy so it is not good.

Atheists really need to wake up and see that atheism is a religion.   

[organofcorti]

Atheists dont have to like religions but they have to respect religions , hate mean is look like enemy so it is not good.

Atheists really need to wake up and see that atheism is a religion.  

Again, no - you're still wrong, just like last time you posted the same comment.

https://atheists.org/activism/resources/what-is-atheism

WHAT IS ATHEISM?

No one asks this question enough.

The reason no one asks this question a lot is because most people have preconceived ideas and notions about what an Atheist is and is not. Where these preconceived ideas come from varies, but they tend to evolve from theistic influences or other sources.

Atheism is usually defined incorrectly as a belief system. Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God." Some dictionaries even go so far as to define Atheism as "wickedness," "sinfulness," and other derogatory adjectives. Clearly, theistic influence taints dictionaries. People cannot trust these dictionaries to define atheism. The fact that dictionaries define Atheism as "there is no God" betrays the (mono)theistic influence. Without the (mono)theistic influence, the definition would at least read "there are no gods."

Why should atheists allow theists to define who atheists are? Do other minorities allow the majority to define their character, views, and opinions? No, they do not. So why does everyone expect atheists to lie down and accept the definition placed upon them by the world’s theists? Atheists will define themselves.

Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. Two commonly used retorts to the nonsense that atheism is a religion are: 1) If atheism is a religion then bald is a hair color, and 2) If atheism is a religion then health is a disease. A new one introduced in 2012 by Bill Maher is, "If atheism is a religion, then abstinence is a sexual position."

The only common thread that ties all atheists together is a lack of belief in gods and supernatural beings. Some of the best debates we have ever had have been with fellow atheists. This is because atheists do not have a common belief system, sacred scripture or atheist Pope. This means atheists often disagree on many issues and ideas. Atheists come in a variety of shapes, colors, beliefs, convictions, and backgrounds. We are as unique as our fingerprints.