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December 22, 2015, 05:06:12 PM
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Are you naive ? A bigot ? A troll ? or been raised surrounded by idiots ?

I am sorry this is not a personal attack.

Best Regards

I'm in the wrong thread and I wan't to know why.


Best regards.

Wait I am confused are you a religious man or not? Am I supposed to like you or not? lol from what I have quote I can see you are promoting a 'belief in god' which is not like by many, including me.

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December 22, 2015, 05:08:58 PM
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I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:
Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

There is quite a bit of scientific research to support veridical perception and consciousness after death, including the recent AWARE study where the patient's recollections were verified even though the patient was totally brain-dead (i.e. actually dead); here are some resources you can explore:
http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml


lol what people claim to be 'near death experience' are just hallucinations. Want to recreate it? It can be easily and safely done. What you see and dream about with your eyes closed is just your brain going woozy as it slowly dies nothing more and nothing less.

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December 22, 2015, 05:09:24 PM
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Wait I am confused are you a religious man or not? Am I supposed to like you or not? lol from what I have quote I can see you are promoting a 'belief in god' which is not like by many, including me.

Given that:
1. Atheism is a sin (idolatry).
    Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_have_no_other_gods_before_me
2. Atheists need to die (capital sin).
    Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf

I won't to understand why I'm here trying to understand the point of view of dead people.


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December 22, 2015, 05:10:20 PM
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Since man is a rational being, a creature of reason, it is obvious that GOD would want man to think. BADecker implies that thinking is a religion, but it is perfectly fair to ask BADecker "compared to what?" Another question to ask of him is "how can we know that you are not misleading us into a false religion? what is the fruit of such a belief? why should one choose a belief which is irrational and against reason, which denies man's basic virtue? is it balanced to equivocate opinion and reason?", etc.

Compared to a religion of non-thinking.

If you can't tell which religion is false, you don't really have any ability to be speaking logically in this or any forum. False religion is thinking that there is some way to save yourself from death by what you can do.

The irrational belief is that man's rationality is great enough to figure out enough for life that does not die. After all, it is obvious from all the research done that mankind hasn't even figured a way out to extend his life to 200 years. But if you can find some oriental guy who figured out how to live for, say, 250 years or more, he is 1 in billions.

It is obvious from what he writes that the reasoning abilities of 1aguar (and people like him) fall way short of their ideals.

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December 22, 2015, 05:11:52 PM
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No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?


Best regards.

I have no religion,  only theories none of which include any gods.  And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

All of this in your quote directly above is, then, is part of your religious belief, and your religion.

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You could say that he has some sort of belief system in place.

Atheism is the lack of believe that is why I refuse the definition of atheism as religion.


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Badecker you are confused between a "guy believing in some day to day strategies" and a "guy worshiping and giving elite/supreme importance to something most likely super natural stuff"

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December 22, 2015, 05:13:03 PM
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Badecker you are confused between a "guy believing in some day to day strategies" and a "guy worshiping and giving elite/supreme importance to something most likely super natural stuff"

Thank You for your wise words.


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December 22, 2015, 05:13:58 PM
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Badecker you are confused between a "guy believing in some day to day strategies" and a "guy worshiping and giving elite/supreme importance to something most likely super natural stuff"

It's a heinous waste of time to argue with Decker.

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December 22, 2015, 05:15:38 PM
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I don't hate any religion but yeah, some facts and rituals are quite unfair. Almost all religions have different rules for men and women. I don't think any religion should differentiate between two genders.

My religion as well has some facts I don't agree with. "If someone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other cheek as well." "If one doesn't go to the Church on every Sunday, he is a sinner".

Religion shouldn't make someone lose their self respect or make anything compulsory for a person else they are called sinners. I'm not an atheist but do criticize religion at times.


This is not a fact but an almost impossible act to follow. It's like trying to touch the horizon. You can't. But you have a path to follow, a direction the needle of your inner compass will point to... Some people have it naturally, others need guidance and a reminder why they are more than a animal, IF they chose to...

Same with judging. you cannot NOT judge at every moment, every time you breathe... Since those "orders" are impossible to follow to the letter, being the nature of human we will forever be sinners... I haven't open a bible in centuries but that is how I interpreted it.... I could be wrong, of course.


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That's pretty much every religion. "You are a man you are a sinner you must repent and pay us to run our holy church/temple/mosque whatever."

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December 22, 2015, 05:15:51 PM
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No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?


Best regards.

I have no religion,  only theories none of which include any gods.  And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

All of this in your quote directly above is, then, is part of your religious belief, and your religion.

Smiley

You could say that he has some sort of belief system in place.

Atheism is the lack of believe that is why I refuse the definition of atheism as religion.


Best regards.

Actually, atheism is one of the strongest beliefs. Why? Because common sense suggests that something must have made the universe. In addition, science says that there is a God, when combining: 1) cause and effect; 2) complexity; 3) entropy.

Since atheism is based on very strong faith against the obvious, atheism is a strong religion by finding all kinds of irrational points to hold itself in place.

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December 22, 2015, 05:17:12 PM
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Badecker you are confused between a "guy believing in some day to day strategies" and a "guy worshiping and giving elite/supreme importance to something most likely super natural stuff"

What you call "Super natural stuff" is Magic which is a sin.
"Not to perform acts of magic"
- Deut. 18:10




Actually, atheism is one of the strongest beliefs. Why? Because common sense suggests that something must have made the universe. In addition, science says that there is a God, when combining: 1) cause and effect; 2) complexity; 3) entropy.

Since atheism is based on very strong faith against the obvious, atheism is a strong religion by finding all kinds of irrational points to hold itself in place.

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Faith in the obvious is Idolatry which is a sin (1st commandement).


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December 22, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
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No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?


Best regards.

I have no religion,  only theories none of which include any gods.  And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

All of this in your quote directly above is, then, is part of your religious belief, and your religion.

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You could say that he has some sort of belief system in place.

Atheism is the lack of believe that is why I refuse the definition of atheism as religion.


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Badecker you are confused between a "guy believing in some day to day strategies" and a "guy worshiping and giving elite/supreme importance to something most likely super natural stuff"

Outside of the things that God does directly, there is no supernatural. All is complex science.

To say it another way, since God made everything including science, and since man can only investigate science but not make it, everything is supernatural, because without nature being in existence, nobody could make it.

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December 22, 2015, 05:20:56 PM
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Outside of the things that God does directly, there is no supernatural. All is complex science.

To say it another way, since God made everything including science, and since man can only investigate science but not make it, everything is supernatural, because without nature being in existence, nobody could make it.

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Agreed.
But performing "supernatural" acts is a sin:
"Not to perform acts of magic"
- Deut. 18:10


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December 22, 2015, 05:21:01 PM
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Outside of the things that God does directly, there is no supernatural. All is complex science.

To say it another way, since God made everything including science, and since man can only investigate science but not make it, everything is supernatural, because without nature being in existence, nobody could make it.

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Seriously dude science is not a thing to be made lol at this point you're just flabbergasting me with your stupid remarks please continue.

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December 22, 2015, 05:23:15 PM
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I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:
Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

There is quite a bit of scientific research to support veridical perception and consciousness after death, including the recent AWARE study where the patient's recollections were verified even though the patient was totally brain-dead (i.e. actually dead); here are some resources you can explore:
http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml


lol what people claim to be 'near death experience' are just hallucinations. Want to recreate it? It can be easily and safely done. What you see and dream about with your eyes closed is just your brain going woozy as it slowly dies nothing more and nothing less.
You need a functioning brain with blood flow and electrical firing to have hallucinations and perceptions. None of that is present during brain death. So how are the perceptions explained?
In the AWARE study, the patient had true perceptions during brain death that were later confirmed by witnesses.
The neurons do not work (fire) when there is brain death. There is no sense of pain, no gag reflex, etc. Why in the world would there be perception and hallucination without even basic functions like those? It goes against everything that is understood about the brain.
Show me the evidence! Find even one neuroscientist who says that a dead brain can plausibly hallucinate.
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December 22, 2015, 05:24:15 PM
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---snip---

Actually, atheism is one of the strongest beliefs. Why? Because common sense suggests that something must have made the universe. In addition, science says that there is a God, when combining: 1) cause and effect; 2) complexity; 3) entropy.

Since atheism is based on very strong faith against the obvious, atheism is a strong religion by finding all kinds of irrational points to hold itself in place.

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In simple words atheism is just the discouragement of the believes and i don't think I think/fear entropy every second of my life or even give it such attention so that i have to hold anything in me. A man would probably die out of depression if he gets to know what is around him and who or how small he is.

To say it another way, since God made everything including science
when did that happen  Roll Eyes

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December 22, 2015, 05:25:00 PM
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Atheists hate Religion because religion tells that they need to die.
(I already answered this at page 78 circa).

As already said: question is answered, this thread can now be closed (for me).


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Actually, atheism is one of the strongest beliefs. Why? Because common sense suggests that something must have made the universe. In addition, science says that there is a God, when combining: 1) cause and effect; 2) complexity; 3) entropy.

Since atheism is based on very strong faith against the obvious, atheism is a strong religion by finding all kinds of irrational points to hold itself in place.

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Faith in the obvious is Idolatry which is a sin (1st commandement).


Best regards.

The obvious is that God exists. If you want to suggest that faith in the obvious is breaking the 1st Commandment, then you are suggesting that the 1st Commandment is against itself.



I think that I am right when I say that BitNow is not a 34 year old male as listed in "its" profile. Rather, BitNow is a 14 year old girl whose mother set her up in this forum because she had trouble doing it herself.

This is one way for an Italian girl to improve her English.

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Atheists hate Religion because religion tells that they need to die.
So what proves that you are getting an eternal life after death ? assumptions are very different from truths.
One is free to think/believe anything but it ain't a fact or reality.

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The obvious is that God exists. If you want to suggest that faith in the obvious is breaking the 1st Commandment, then you are suggesting that the 1st Commandment is against itself.


Can you just kill the atheists or at least ignore them?

Fixing your head on problems is the same of throwing shit on things: not a smart thing to do.


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---snip---

Actually, atheism is one of the strongest beliefs. Why? Because common sense suggests that something must have made the universe. In addition, science says that there is a God, when combining: 1) cause and effect; 2) complexity; 3) entropy.

Since atheism is based on very strong faith against the obvious, atheism is a strong religion by finding all kinds of irrational points to hold itself in place.

Smiley
In simple words atheism is just the discouragement of the believes and i don't think I think/fear entropy every second of my life or even give it such attention so that i have to hold anything in me. A man would probably die out of depression if he gets to know what is around him and who or how small he is.

To say it another way, since God made everything including science
when did that happen  Roll Eyes

Atheists are good at covering their fear up in their minds. But when trauma happens, this mental self control disappears.

God made everything in the Beginning. Read the bible to find out. From http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm - go there to find out more details that aren't directly seen in this quote:
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Biblical Age of Earth

by  David V. Bassett, M.S.

Beginning with the archeological landmark event of the fall of Jerusalem (which has now been corrected to 588 B.C., instead of 586-587 B.C.) and counting backwards the prophesied number of years between this event and the division of Solomon's kingdom (390 yrs. + 40 yrs., according to Ezekiel 4:4-7), brings us to 1018 B.C.

From the end of Solomon's 40-year reign to the start of the Temple in the 4th year of his reign takes us back another 37 years to 1055 B.C.

From the start of Solomon's Temple "in the 480th year" (1 Kings 6:1) back to the Exodus from Egypt (hence 479 years previous) brings us to near 1534 B.C.

From the Exodus out of Egypt to Abraham's entering Canaan from Haran was exactly 430 years to the day (Gen 12:10/ Exodus 12:40/ Gal 3:17), thus around 1964 B.C.

Since Abraham entered Canaan at age 75 (Gen 12:4), he was born approximately 2039 B.C.

From Abraham's birth to Noah's grandson (Shem's son), Arpachshad's birth, 2 years after the Flood started, was 290 years (Gen 11:11-26), this places the onset of the Flood at around 2331 B.C. [definitely 4,300-4,400 years ago].

The genealogy of Genesis 5:3-32 precludes any gaps due to its tight chronological structure and gives us 1,656 years between Creation and the Flood, thus bringing Creation Week back to near 3987 B.C. or approximately 4000 B.C.

Therefore, the biblical age of the Earth (using Scripture itself as a guide) is 6,000 years !! Mankind did not evolve 4 million years ago on an Earth which is 4.5 billion years old in a universe which was "big-banged" into existence 18-20 billion years in the distant past. Jesus Christ, the Creator Incarnate, said He made mankind male and female in the beginning (Mark 10:6), and that when the heavens and the earth were commanded into being (Gen 1:1), they "stood up together" (Isa 48:13) not billions of years apart !!


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