Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BitNow]

Hitler had been a Christian (Catholic) in his early years. Although he fell into crazy religious ideals in later life, he never denounced the Church, and he was never excommunicated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

We don't know that he was an atheist. He probably wasn't. So, the Holocaust wouldn't necessarily fit the classification of genocide done by atheists.

He was.

Mussolini was atheist for sure, Hitler I'm 99% sure he was as well.

For sure politics falls under Freemasonry (they believe in the Great Architect or the Demiurge) in most case: which is a more close to atheism view than theism.
Freemasonry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
Demiurge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

For me this is atheism as well despite the fact that they think of themselfs SUPERIOR to atheists because they believe in a Supreme Creator.
 
They still believe the wrong one.

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[BADecker]

Hitler had been a Christian (Catholic) in his early years. Although he fell into crazy religious ideals in later life, he never denounced the Church, and he was never excommunicated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

We don't know that he was an atheist. He probably wasn't. So, the Holocaust wouldn't necessarily fit the classification of genocide done by atheists.

He was.

Mussolini was atheit for sure, Hitler I'm 99% sure he was as well.


Best regards.

You can feel like it all day long, but that doesn't make it true. The Wikipedia article I linked above expresses that we don't know for sure. Or do you have an inside track with people like Hitler?

Google "Was Hitler an atheist?" to see that there is a lot of evidence that he was not an atheist.

[BitNow]

You can feel like it all day long, but that doesn't make it true. The Wikipedia article I linked above expresses that we don't know for sure. Or do you have an inside track with people like Hitler?

Google "Was Hitler an atheist?" to see that there is a lot of evidence that he was not an atheist.

I corrected my post above:
For sure politics (this kind of) falls under Freemasonry (they believe in the Great Architect or the Demiurge) in most case: which is a more close to atheism view than theism.
Freemasonry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
Demiurge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

For me this is atheism as well despite the fact that they think of themselfs SUPERIOR to atheists because they believe in a Supreme Creator.
 
They still believe the wrong one.

Or this kind of politics falls directly in State atheism, like China these days.


Best regards.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

simple answer:

an atheist hate the religions because the religions have maded to many deaths in history

Actually biggest massacres in the history have been committed by atheists and their ideology  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam......

You forgot about 6 million Jews in WW2.


Best regards.

Hitler had been a Christian (Catholic) in his early years. Although he fell into crazy religious ideals in later life, he never denounced the Church, and he was never excommunicated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

We don't know that he was an atheist. He probably wasn't. So, the Holocaust wouldn't necessarily fit the classification of genocide done by atheists.

But since the Catholic Church is not Christian, and he wanted death for people, he was not Christian. Anyone who wants death for people, is wishing to cut their life shorter than the Lord intends and may stop someone from being saved, this is not a love for that person. Because if we love our brothers and sisters, we wish for all to be saved as the Lord does.

1 John 4:20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

No Christian should attempt to cut another's life shorter because that life may have been saved later on, also that life may have gone on to save even more people. Some of the best testimonies of Christianity are from atheists who have been saved. They deserve to live long enough to be saved and perhaps save others through their testimony.

[BADecker]

simple answer:

an atheist hate the religions because the religions have maded to many deaths in history

Actually biggest massacres in the history have been committed by atheists and their ideology  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam......

You forgot about 6 million Jews in WW2.


Best regards.

Hitler had been a Christian (Catholic) in his early years. Although he fell into crazy religious ideals in later life, he never denounced the Church, and he was never excommunicated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

We don't know that he was an atheist. He probably wasn't. So, the Holocaust wouldn't necessarily fit the classification of genocide done by atheists.

But since the Catholic Church is not Christian, and he wanted death for people, he was not Christian. Anyone who wants death for people, is wishing to cut their life shorter than the Lord intends and may stop someone from being saved, this is not a love for that person. Because if we love our brothers and sisters, we wish for all to be saved as the Lord does.

1 John 4:20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

No Christian should attempt to cut another's life shorter because that life may have been saved later on, also that life may have gone on to save even more people. Some of the best testimonies of Christianity are from atheists who have been saved. They deserve to live long enough to be saved and perhaps save others through their testimony.

Neither of the two passages necessarily make a person an atheist, or even an unsaved unbeliever.

We simply don't know whether or not Hitler became an atheist.

In the Crusades of the middle ages, Crusaders were theists that did a lot of killing in the name of the Lord. Much of the time they were wrong in doing it. But they never became atheists because they did it. They were simply ignorant Christians.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

simple answer:

an atheist hate the religions because the religions have maded to many deaths in history

Actually biggest massacres in the history have been committed by atheists and their ideology  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam......

You forgot about 6 million Jews in WW2.


Best regards.

Hitler had been a Christian (Catholic) in his early years. Although he fell into crazy religious ideals in later life, he never denounced the Church, and he was never excommunicated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

We don't know that he was an atheist. He probably wasn't. So, the Holocaust wouldn't necessarily fit the classification of genocide done by atheists.

But since the Catholic Church is not Christian, and he wanted death for people, he was not Christian. Anyone who wants death for people, is wishing to cut their life shorter than the Lord intends and may stop someone from being saved, this is not a love for that person. Because if we love our brothers and sisters, we wish for all to be saved as the Lord does.

1 John 4:20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

No Christian should attempt to cut another's life shorter because that life may have been saved later on, also that life may have gone on to save even more people. Some of the best testimonies of Christianity are from atheists who have been saved. They deserve to live long enough to be saved and perhaps save others through their testimony.

Neither of the two passages necessarily make a person an atheist, or even an unsaved unbeliever.

We simply don't know whether or not Hitler became an atheist.

In the Crusades of the middle ages, Crusaders were theists that did a lot of killing in the name of the Lord. Much of the time they were wrong in doing it. But they never became atheists because they did it. They were simply ignorant Christians.

I didn't meant to imply the lack of being Christian equals being an atheist. I just got sidetracked towards the end. Hitler wasn't Christian because he had no love for his fellow men and women on earth and was fine with torturing them. Anyone who has a hate for people and wants to murder them for some reason (even if they think they're doing the Lord's will) are not Christian since the Lord said they're a liar for calling themselves Christian.

But not being Christian doesn't make them an atheist. They may still believe in God, but not truly know Him.

[bryant.coleman]

Actually biggest massacres in the history have been committed by atheists and their ideology 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam......

And all of them overshadowed by the following:

150 million natives exterminated by the Catholics in the Americas in 16th century
100 million Hindus killed by Muslims during the Islamic conquest of India
90% of the Australian aborigines killed by the British Christians.

Religious people have killed at least 10x more people, when compared to the atheists.

[BADecker]

simple answer:

an atheist hate the religions because the religions have maded to many deaths in history

Actually biggest massacres in the history have been committed by atheists and their ideology  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam......

You forgot about 6 million Jews in WW2.


Best regards.

Hitler had been a Christian (Catholic) in his early years. Although he fell into crazy religious ideals in later life, he never denounced the Church, and he was never excommunicated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

We don't know that he was an atheist. He probably wasn't. So, the Holocaust wouldn't necessarily fit the classification of genocide done by atheists.

But since the Catholic Church is not Christian, and he wanted death for people, he was not Christian. Anyone who wants death for people, is wishing to cut their life shorter than the Lord intends and may stop someone from being saved, this is not a love for that person. Because if we love our brothers and sisters, we wish for all to be saved as the Lord does.

1 John 4:20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

No Christian should attempt to cut another's life shorter because that life may have been saved later on, also that life may have gone on to save even more people. Some of the best testimonies of Christianity are from atheists who have been saved. They deserve to live long enough to be saved and perhaps save others through their testimony.

Neither of the two passages necessarily make a person an atheist, or even an unsaved unbeliever.

We simply don't know whether or not Hitler became an atheist.

In the Crusades of the middle ages, Crusaders were theists that did a lot of killing in the name of the Lord. Much of the time they were wrong in doing it. But they never became atheists because they did it. They were simply ignorant Christians.

I didn't meant to imply the lack of being Christian equals being an atheist. I just got sidetracked towards the end. Hitler wasn't Christian because he had no love for his fellow men and women on earth and was fine with torturing them. Anyone who has a hate for people and wants to murder them for some reason (even if they think they're doing the Lord's will) are not Christian since the Lord said they're a liar for calling themselves Christian.

But not being Christian doesn't make them an atheist. They may still believe in God, but not truly know Him.

And I didn't mean to imply that it was right of Hitler to do what he did.

We don't know that Hitler had no love. When you are in a position of leading a great country like Hitler was, there are times when you need to become calloused.

When you look at the history of Germany, the Prussians, and other groups who fought in WW1, it is difficult to say for sure that Hitler was wrong in his beginnings as leader of Germany. Sure, Germany was not right in what they did in WW1 and before, but the way that they were mistreated after they lost that war was not right either.

Did Hitler love the German people and Germany? Or was he only using them. Hard to say. But one might give him the benefit of the doubt in this area. At least some of his hate for the Jews was based on things that some people he thought were Jews did or attempted to do to Germany. It was war, and you love your own people more than you love the enemy.

http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=40

http://justice4germans.com/2013/06/20/they-called-it-liberation-i-call-it-hate-war-crimes-and-genocide-against-germans-you-be-the-judge/

[BADecker]

Actually biggest massacres in the history have been committed by atheists and their ideology 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam......

And all of them overshadowed by the following:

150 million natives exterminated by the Catholics in the Americas in 16th century
100 million Hindus killed by Muslims during the Islamic conquest of India
90% of the Australian aborigines killed by the British Christians.

Religious people have killed at least 10x more people, when compared to the atheists.

You are very right, but mostly because atheism is simply another religion, like it or not. There isn't any person alive without religion of some kind.

[gambit1]

Actually biggest massacres in the history have been committed by atheists and their ideology 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam......

And all of them overshadowed by the following:

150 million natives exterminated by the Catholics in the Americas in 16th century
100 million Hindus killed by Muslims during the Islamic conquest of India
90% of the Australian aborigines killed by the British Christians.

Religious people have killed at least 10x more people, when compared to the atheists.

Sources please!

[BitNow]

Actually biggest massacres in the history have been committed by atheists and their ideology  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam......

And all of them overshadowed by the following:

150 million natives exterminated by the Catholics in the Americas in 16th century
100 million Hindus killed by Muslims during the Islamic conquest of India
90% of the Australian aborigines killed by the British Christians.

Religious people have killed at least 10x more people, when compared to the atheists.

You are very right, but mostly because atheism is simply another religion, like it or not. There isn't any person alive without religion of some kind.

Ask for sources BADecker don't say "you are right" so easily.


Best regards.

[Spendulus]

Actually biggest massacres in the history have been committed by atheists and their ideology 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam......

And all of them overshadowed by the following:

150 million natives exterminated by the Catholics in the Americas in 16th century
100 million Hindus killed by Muslims during the Islamic conquest of India
90% of the Australian aborigines killed by the British Christians.

Religious people have killed at least 10x more people, when compared to the atheists.

These assertions are all false due to errors in the premises.

By this logic, I, an atheist in a "Christian country," would find my actions to be those of a Christian.

Similarly, the actions of a Christian in China would be found to be actions of an "atheist."

I don't think this error can be overcome by modification of the premises.

[RoomBot]

CONCLUSION:

Millions of humans have been murdered, enslaved, persecuted and abused, either in the name of religion or in a reaction to it: Atheism.

Therefore religion is at the root of ALL of the above-listed massacres.


Even the "Atheist" ones.

BOOM.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

CONCLUSION:

Millions of humans have been murdered, enslaved, persecuted and abused, either in the name of religion or in a reaction to it: Atheism.

Therefore religion is at the root of ALL of the above-listed massacres.


Even the "Atheist" ones.

BOOM.

If just one person can believe in a religion and not want to kill anyone, then blaming religion for murders is wrong and you need to start blaming the people not their religion for the killings.

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If just one person can believe in a religion and not want to kill anyone, then blaming religion for murders is wrong and you need to start blaming the people not their religion for the killings.

Double-edged sword here.

If just one person does not believe in a religion and does a good deed, then it's the person that must get credit for the good deed, not the irreligion. Effectively making religion obsolete; well the good deed parts anyway.

[gampher]

religion and atheism can do nothing ,its the top level guys always.

[BADecker]

religion and atheism can do nothing ,its the top level guys always.

If people are meant by top level guys, top level guys do only what has been programmed for them to do by cause and effect.

Even the firing of the neurons in their brains depends on all kinds of causes, like the food they eat, the water they drink, the amount of salt in their bodies, and loads of other things that are all predetermined. Why predetermined? Because, even though we have some theories that pure random might exist, and even though we have some quantum math that says that pure random DOES exist (remember, quantum can prove anything any which way), by far the greatest evidence (so strong that it is proof) is the example in nature expressed by Newton's 3rd Law.

People are simply 100% pawns in life, moved entirely according to the dictates of nature, and the real powers that be. The only exception to this is that God, in all this cause and effect, holds open a section of faith in Himself, in the heart of each person, and then God directs nature, based on the faith of the person, so that the person can SEEM to be moving and shaking the world.

Mankind without God, as a thinking, rational being, is next to nothing in knowledge and understanding.

[BitNow]

If people are meant by top level guys, top level guys do only what has been programmed for them to do by cause and effect.

Even the firing of the neurons in their brains depends on all kinds of causes, like the food they eat, the water they drink, the amount of salt in their bodies, and loads of other things that are all predetermined. Why predetermined? Because, even though we have some theories that pure random might exist, and even though we have some quantum math that says that pure random DOES exist (remember, quantum can prove anything any which way), by far the greatest evidence (so strong that it is proof) is the example in nature expressed by Newton's 3rd Law.

People are simply 100% pawns in life, moved entirely according to the dictates of nature, and the real powers that be. The only exception to this is that God, in all this cause and effect, holds open a section of faith in Himself, in the heart of each person, and then God directs nature, based on the faith of the person, so that the person can SEEM to be moving and shaking the world.

Mankind without God, as a thinking, rational being, is next to nothing in knowledge and understanding.

All this thinking just to avoid the Pope and his/her authority?


Best regards.

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All this thinking just to avoid the Pope and his/her authority?

What authority?

[BADecker]

If people are meant by top level guys, top level guys do only what has been programmed for them to do by cause and effect.

Even the firing of the neurons in their brains depends on all kinds of causes, like the food they eat, the water they drink, the amount of salt in their bodies, and loads of other things that are all predetermined. Why predetermined? Because, even though we have some theories that pure random might exist, and even though we have some quantum math that says that pure random DOES exist (remember, quantum can prove anything any which way), by far the greatest evidence (so strong that it is proof) is the example in nature expressed by Newton's 3rd Law.

People are simply 100% pawns in life, moved entirely according to the dictates of nature, and the real powers that be. The only exception to this is that God, in all this cause and effect, holds open a section of faith in Himself, in the heart of each person, and then God directs nature, based on the faith of the person, so that the person can SEEM to be moving and shaking the world.

Mankind without God, as a thinking, rational being, is next to nothing in knowledge and understanding.

All this thinking just to avoid the Pope and his/her authority?


Best regards.

Ignoring all this thinking simply to justify bowing down to a Man... the Pope.