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December 23, 2015, 05:15:01 AM
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Because atheists are defined as people who hate religion.

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a·the·ist
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plural noun: atheists

    a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
    "he is a committed atheist"
    synonyms:   nonbeliever, disbeliever, unbeliever, skeptic, doubter, doubting Thomas, agnostic; nihilist
    "why is it often assumed that a man of science is probably an atheist?"

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December 23, 2015, 05:16:05 AM
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Because atheists are defined as people who hate religion.

Sure would like reference to that definition. Or is it your definition that you posted here?

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December 23, 2015, 05:18:21 AM
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4,200 listed on Wikipedia ..there is far too many to hate LOL

FOUR THOUSAND different "groups" of creepy weirdos all preaching their weird ass God bullshit is the REAL one  Roll Eyes

Listen up stupid alien infected sinners !
Get to an eMeter pronto and get your Thetan count checked ASAP !

Well, you had better start checking them all out soon. Why? The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.

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December 23, 2015, 05:22:36 AM
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"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

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So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

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December 23, 2015, 05:27:49 AM
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"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

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So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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December 23, 2015, 05:31:59 AM
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The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.

"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

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So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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what religion of God ? laws of nature is not a religion and will never be cause nature doesn't needs to be worshiped nor to be assumed supernatural

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December 23, 2015, 05:45:30 AM
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The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.
Did God tell you that?

In the Bible God tells us that we need to believe God, which amounts to believing in the promised Messiah (O.T.), Who is revealed in the N.T. to be Jesus. The Bible also indicates that the only way to believe is by hearing or reading the Bible. The thing that God doesn't really tell us is whether or not there is some other way to hear than by literally hearing the Bible being read.


"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

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So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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what religion of God ? laws of nature is not a religion and will never be cause nature doesn't needs to be worshiped nor to be assumed supernatural

At the time of the Beginning, the Law of Nature included all of the Law of God. There was no need for a Gospel, yet, because there was no sin at the Beginning.

The pure Law of Nature (which doesn't exist today because of sin) was indeed the only religion around at the time of the Beginning. In addition, supernatural doesn't necessarily have anything to do with religious requirements. Over the centuries, many people bowed down to statues and carvings, even though these have no supernatural ability whatsoever. Religion isn't necessarily connected to the supernatural.

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December 23, 2015, 06:01:12 AM
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The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.
Did God tell you that?

In the Bible God tells us that we need to believe God, which amounts to believing in the promised Messiah (O.T.), Who is revealed in the N.T. to be Jesus. The Bible also indicates that the only way to believe is by hearing or reading the Bible. The thing that God doesn't really tell us is whether or not there is some other way to hear than by literally hearing the Bible being read.

yes but All God's say the same for every Religion and in every book of theirs ?

"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

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So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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what religion of God ? laws of nature is not a religion and will never be cause nature doesn't needs to be worshiped nor to be assumed supernatural

At the time of the Beginning, the Law of Nature included all of the Law of God. There was no need for a Gospel, yet, because there was no sin at the Beginning.

The pure Law of Nature (which doesn't exist today because of sin) was indeed the only religion around at the time of the Beginning. In addition, supernatural doesn't necessarily have anything to do with religious requirements. Over the centuries, many people bowed down to statues and carvings, even though these have no supernatural ability whatsoever. Religion isn't necessarily connected to the supernatural.

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They worship the statues cause they believe it has some supernatural abilities and no they don't preach to stones we find on the streets .It's the specialty

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December 23, 2015, 06:10:52 AM
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The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.
Did God tell you that?

In the Bible God tells us that we need to believe God, which amounts to believing in the promised Messiah (O.T.), Who is revealed in the N.T. to be Jesus. The Bible also indicates that the only way to believe is by hearing or reading the Bible. The thing that God doesn't really tell us is whether or not there is some other way to hear than by literally hearing the Bible being read.

yes but All God's say the same for every Religion and in every book of theirs ?
Actually, all the books are different. All the gods are different. And The Bible is the ONLY book that talks about God sending His Son to save the world by taking the punishment for the sins of everybody.


"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

Smiley
So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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what religion of God ? laws of nature is not a religion and will never be cause nature doesn't needs to be worshiped nor to be assumed supernatural

At the time of the Beginning, the Law of Nature included all of the Law of God. There was no need for a Gospel, yet, because there was no sin at the Beginning.

The pure Law of Nature (which doesn't exist today because of sin) was indeed the only religion around at the time of the Beginning. In addition, supernatural doesn't necessarily have anything to do with religious requirements. Over the centuries, many people bowed down to statues and carvings, even though these have no supernatural ability whatsoever. Religion isn't necessarily connected to the supernatural.

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They worship the statues cause they believe it has some supernatural abilities and no they don't preach to stones we find on the streets .It's the specialty

There are religions where shamans or witchdoctors use bones to determine some religious things. So, you probably can find some religions that used stones in the past. And maybe there are some around today.

What do you mean "and no they don't preach to stones we find on the streets .It's the specialty?"

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December 23, 2015, 07:08:49 AM
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The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.
Did God tell you that?

In the Bible God tells us that we need to believe God, which amounts to believing in the promised Messiah (O.T.), Who is revealed in the N.T. to be Jesus. The Bible also indicates that the only way to believe is by hearing or reading the Bible. The thing that God doesn't really tell us is whether or not there is some other way to hear than by literally hearing the Bible being read.

yes but All God's say the same for every Religion and in every book of theirs ?
Actually, all the books are different. All the gods are different. And The Bible is the ONLY book that talks about God sending His Son to save the world by taking the punishment for the sins of everybody.
Have you read all the books ? I don't think a Man can in all of his lifetime.

What do you mean "and no they don't preach to stones we find on the streets .It's the specialty?"
It means that people don't worhip stuff which is not special or generally connected to human life. Like the keyboard and cpu we use daily.
But they follow which has a connection to the super-natural powers/beings

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December 23, 2015, 07:32:53 AM
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if i was god and i am sure most would agree if you can make the earth in 7 days you would make sure kids don.t suffer ..or did god forget to do this Undecided Undecided

my words above your words below

There weren't any kids back then. God has given freedom. If you have kids, it is your fault for not teaching them that their freedom comes from God, and that it is their own fault for not following God

But you said god is always with us and god can never die .So where is god now or as he grown to old and has gone blind and deaf  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
see how you slipped up
there was no kids back then Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
He can still see them now or is he dead Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
which is it ...he is alive or dead make your mind up badecker DEAD OR ALIVE
well if he is alive what about sick kids GOD you horrible little shit what is giving cancer to kids all about..so is he alive if he is alive then he is a liitle ass hole shit and i never want to go to heaven

and if he is dead well he aint much of a god then Grin Grin

SO BADECKER EXPLAIN TO ME IS GOD DEAD OR ALIVE Grin
plus plenty of religious people and there kids get cancer so all that praying for what
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December 23, 2015, 07:47:09 AM
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I started to read this thread, but it's very long, and it seems to be based on the belief that agnostics are atheists. This is not true.

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Its taken the advancement of technology to be able to communicate findings and ideas to advance civilisation, remember its not that long ago that it was beleived the world was flat, thunder and natural disasters were the act of god etc. with good knowledge a civilisation could be easily tricked in the past, even now in undeveloped countries people are tricked by people into thinking they have magical powers.
It has taken the so-called advancement of technology to cause people to think that they are advanced.

For example. Thousands of years ago people were able to move gigantic blocks of stone, weighing up to a thousand tons each, over hundreds of miles, so that they could set up wonderful buildings and monuments.

We don't have the technology to do this today. But, we could probbly devise some technology that could do this. However, if we did, we still couldn't move the stones. Why not? Because our economies are so weak that we couldn't afford building the equipment that it would take, or making the move if the equipment happened to be built. Yet, the ancients of thousands of years ago did it. They were advanced beyond what we are.


I would be confident to say that jesus may have even existed but using tricks and manipulation could fool people into believing he was some sort of prophet and even the son of the most popular god of the time.
However, you and those like you would attempt to fool people into thinking that we have knowledge of all kinds of things that we don't. If you had simply said something like, "we don't know if Jesus had special power or not," or "we aren't sure what God is like," then you might possibly have enough humility to understand that in the basics of life we are behind the ancients, even though we have a bunch of so-called technology.


Also ive mentioned it in a few posts back but im just going to put this out here for you again because im not sure your definition of religion and mine are the same.
All you have to do is look at the standard dictionary definitions of the word "religion" to see what my definitions are. Anybody can make up new definitions to words. Is that what you are doing with the word "religion?"


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the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Sounds like you aren't smart enough to put together the concepts:
1. cause and effect;
2. universal complexity;
3. universal entropy;
to see that they say "God."

Religion isn't about the existence of God. Religion is about His attributes. We can see in nature that God exists... except if we are blind, like you seem to saying that you are.

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Ok so im obviously too stupid to put together those 3 concepts that you have posted because theres no way i can put those together and come up with that meaning god, And im blind as well because i certainly cant see god in nature.The reason i dont see what you see is because my mind is not poisoned with religion as yours clearly is.

I suppose im lucky we are only conversing over the internet because in another time or place im sure you would be happy to see me stoned or crucified for my complete and utter lack of faith.

Tell me, What would it take to convince you that your worshipping a false idol and there is in fact no god? Im going to assume it cant be done.

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December 23, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
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4,200 listed on Wikipedia ..there is far too many to hate LOL
They are just listed on wikipedia and are declared or pretty famous and with some significant following, lol at least 10 times of that number is being followed around the world depending on own believes.

I suppose im lucky we are only conversing over the internet because in another time or place im sure you would be happy to see me stoned or crucified for my complete and utter lack of faith.
If he is hell insane then he wouldn't care about how much money he would have throw and might track you down.

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December 23, 2015, 01:57:55 PM
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I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:
Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

There is quite a bit of scientific research to support veridical perception and consciousness after death, including the recent AWARE study where the patient's recollections were verified even though the patient was totally brain-dead (i.e. actually dead); here are some resources you can explore:
http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml


lol what people claim to be 'near death experience' are just hallucinations. Want to recreate it? It can be easily and safely done. What you see and dream about with your eyes closed is just your brain going woozy as it slowly dies nothing more and nothing less.
You need a functioning brain with blood flow and electrical firing to have hallucinations and perceptions. None of that is present during brain death. So how are the perceptions explained?
In the AWARE study, the patient had true perceptions during brain death that were later confirmed by witnesses.
The neurons do not work (fire) when there is brain death. There is no sense of pain, no gag reflex, etc. Why in the world would there be perception and hallucination without even basic functions like those? It goes against everything that is understood about the brain.
Show me the evidence! Find even one neuroscientist who says that a dead brain can plausibly hallucinate.

I think we should wait them do have a near-death experience and then talk about this things...

People have problem to believe in something they never seen it or experienced. We have a lots of studies and experiences from different people around the world, so this is the reason why I believe them! Smiley
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December 23, 2015, 02:02:24 PM
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I started to read this thread, but it's very long, and it seems to be based on the belief that agnostics are atheists. This is not true.

Yes it is.

Agnosticism is the lack of Faith in God.




Ok so im obviously too stupid to put together those 3 concepts that you have posted because theres no way i can put those together and come up with that meaning god, And im blind as well because i certainly cant see god in nature.The reason i dont see what you see is because my mind is not poisoned with religion as yours clearly is.

I suppose im lucky we are only conversing over the internet because in another time or place im sure you would be happy to see me stoned or crucified for my complete and utter lack of faith.

Tell me, What would it take to convince you that your worshipping a false idol and there is in fact no god? Im going to assume it cant be done.

Why do you hate Religion?


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December 23, 2015, 02:09:45 PM
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No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?


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I have no religion,  only theories none of which include any gods.  And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

You quoted the message that was not directed to you.

Aside from that: Science (and hence theories) come from the Fear of God
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God

How can you have theories if you have no God?


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Apologies for the wrong quote,  I thought you had quoted me twice so just quoted the last one you made,  I didn't realise you asked the same question to two different people until you mentioned it.  So anyways, back to the question.

I can quote easily have theories without having a god because none of my theories contain any gods,  to me beleif in a God or gods is completely irrational,  someone earlier seemed to take that as me questioning their intelligence which obviously isn't the case.

For example , a theory I could  beleive if is when we die there is nothing,  the same as before we were born.  Thare is no god in this theory and obviously it's very hard to prove but to me a lot less ridiculous than some all powerful all knowing God.

For example , a theory I could  beleive if is when we die there is nothing,  the same as before we were born.  Thare is no god in this theory and obviously it's very hard to prove but to me a lot less ridiculous than some all powerful all knowing God.

Tell me, you were back from the death and you know that after we die there is nothing?

Okay, let me ask you a few question and if you really give me a good answer, then I will be sure that you are the only person who knows the things about religion and God...

1. Tell me, what is the meaning of the word God and is it have any connection to Alien or ET?
2. What is the difference between Supreme, Lord and Christ?
3. You mentioned religion, so I would like to ask you... What will be a definition for the word and how do you describe this people?

Now, lets get back to your theory that after death, there is nothing. I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:

1. Light
Most of the people who died, said they saw the famous "light at the end of the tunnel." It is the most common phenomenon that people have when they are technically dead.

2. They could see his body
Many people have this "out of body experience" and saw his lifeless body over them when they were technically dead. That means they were incorporeal spirit hovered over their body. They could not see everything that happens in the room and who's in it. Any attempt to renew the relationship between consciousness and the physical body will fail, leaving a person out of himself a few moments.

3. Guardian Angel
Many people claim to have seen at least one angel or spirit who watches and cares for them during a brief stop in the "death abyss." Some say that the spirit helped through the afterlife before being sent back to their body.

4. A visit from her mother
Many people say that they visited their mother through vision, while they were on their deathbed.

5. Saw deceased relatives
If you have a large family, get ready to see them in the afterlife. Many have died and returned back again in life, they say they saw their relatives died while stopped in the afterlife.

6. The life passing before their eyes
Prepare again to experience your best and worst moments. Many people see life before the eyes right before the coming of death, or even after you switch sides. See their achievements and their memories are appearing before his eyes as a slideshow of her life.

7. They could see and hear all
Many people told that they could see the people who were with them in the room and tried to contact them but could not respond because their body was lifeless and their spirit / consciousness remained awake. Any attempt to get in touch with the people around them in vain.

8. Peace
The majority of deaths that again revived, said they felt a sense of peace and tranquility. It was so powerful and beautiful feeling soul / mind did not know how to find it reassuring experience.

9. Do not want to return
According to numerous reports, the mortal experience is so calming and serene, so many people who have experienced did not want to return to waking life. Imagine how you feel something as well, so you do not want to go back in life that you fought very hard to maintain.

Sorry if there is some mistakes in the translations, because the text is on Macedonian. Smiley

Apologies for the late reply, i can answer your questions.

First off i dont know that theres nothing after death i just find the possibility that theres nothing at all as very plausible when comparing it to god type religions.

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1. Tell me, what is the meaning of the word God and is it have any connection to Alien or ET?
the meaning of god is some sort of supreme being that has power over everything. I do think aliens could have been perceived as gods back in the day but i dont think followers of religion would accept ET as their gods, and if ET was for example the god of the old testament then i wouldnt want that god as my god, the only reason to serve such a god would be because of fear of what would happen if you did not, hence i would be a god fearing person. Luckily thats not the case.

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2. What is the difference between Supreme, Lord and Christ?
To me these words dont hold much value , I mean i could tell you what the dictionary would say about these words but i don't think that's what your asking.

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3. You mentioned religion, so I would like to ask you... What will be a definition for the word and how do you describe this people?
I can give you the definitive definition for this
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the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


As for NDE's , Its an interesting subject but many scientific tests have been carried out to disprove this, there are also not as many of these as you might expect and often accounts vary greatlly depending on the religion of the person having the NDE. Obviously when the body is under great stress ie dying, all kinds of endorphins are released by the body which can quite easily cause hallucinations.


For everyone else that is describing atheism/every human being as religious this is the oxford dictionary's official definition of religion.   


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religion
rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun
noun: religion

    the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

no1 - wrong

God, Aline and ET are the same thing.

no2 - wrong

Supreme is a title only for one person, Lord is a title for person who is leading a group, example: you father is the Lord of your house, Christ is metaphor for the Light or the Holly Spirit.

no3 - wrong

Religion is group of people who is guided by one person. He teach them what to think!

NDE - Tell me, how can you talk about things that you never have experienced them?
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No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?


Best regards.

I have no religion,  only theories none of which include any gods.  And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

You quoted the message that was not directed to you.

Aside from that: Science (and hence theories) come from the Fear of God
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God

How can you have theories if you have no God?


Best regards.

Apologies for the wrong quote,  I thought you had quoted me twice so just quoted the last one you made,  I didn't realise you asked the same question to two different people until you mentioned it.  So anyways, back to the question.

I can quote easily have theories without having a god because none of my theories contain any gods,  to me beleif in a God or gods is completely irrational,  someone earlier seemed to take that as me questioning their intelligence which obviously isn't the case.

For example , a theory I could  beleive if is when we die there is nothing,  the same as before we were born.  Thare is no god in this theory and obviously it's very hard to prove but to me a lot less ridiculous than some all powerful all knowing God.

For example , a theory I could  beleive if is when we die there is nothing,  the same as before we were born.  Thare is no god in this theory and obviously it's very hard to prove but to me a lot less ridiculous than some all powerful all knowing God.

Tell me, you were back from the death and you know that after we die there is nothing?

Okay, let me ask you a few question and if you really give me a good answer, then I will be sure that you are the only person who knows the things about religion and God...

1. Tell me, what is the meaning of the word God and is it have any connection to Alien or ET?
2. What is the difference between Supreme, Lord and Christ?
3. You mentioned religion, so I would like to ask you... What will be a definition for the word and how do you describe this people?

Now, lets get back to your theory that after death, there is nothing. I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:

1. Light
Most of the people who died, said they saw the famous "light at the end of the tunnel." It is the most common phenomenon that people have when they are technically dead.

2. They could see his body
Many people have this "out of body experience" and saw his lifeless body over them when they were technically dead. That means they were incorporeal spirit hovered over their body. They could not see everything that happens in the room and who's in it. Any attempt to renew the relationship between consciousness and the physical body will fail, leaving a person out of himself a few moments.

3. Guardian Angel
Many people claim to have seen at least one angel or spirit who watches and cares for them during a brief stop in the "death abyss." Some say that the spirit helped through the afterlife before being sent back to their body.

4. A visit from her mother
Many people say that they visited their mother through vision, while they were on their deathbed.

5. Saw deceased relatives
If you have a large family, get ready to see them in the afterlife. Many have died and returned back again in life, they say they saw their relatives died while stopped in the afterlife.

6. The life passing before their eyes
Prepare again to experience your best and worst moments. Many people see life before the eyes right before the coming of death, or even after you switch sides. See their achievements and their memories are appearing before his eyes as a slideshow of her life.

7. They could see and hear all
Many people told that they could see the people who were with them in the room and tried to contact them but could not respond because their body was lifeless and their spirit / consciousness remained awake. Any attempt to get in touch with the people around them in vain.

8. Peace
The majority of deaths that again revived, said they felt a sense of peace and tranquility. It was so powerful and beautiful feeling soul / mind did not know how to find it reassuring experience.

9. Do not want to return
According to numerous reports, the mortal experience is so calming and serene, so many people who have experienced did not want to return to waking life. Imagine how you feel something as well, so you do not want to go back in life that you fought very hard to maintain.

Sorry if there is some mistakes in the translations, because the text is on Macedonian. Smiley

Apologies for the late reply, i can answer your questions.

First off i dont know that theres nothing after death i just find the possibility that theres nothing at all as very plausible when comparing it to god type religions.

now

no1-
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1. Tell me, what is the meaning of the word God and is it have any connection to Alien or ET?
the meaning of god is some sort of supreme being that has power over everything. I do think aliens could have been perceived as gods back in the day but i dont think followers of religion would accept ET as their gods, and if ET was for example the god of the old testament then i wouldnt want that god as my god, the only reason to serve such a god would be because of fear of what would happen if you did not, hence i would be a god fearing person. Luckily thats not the case.

no2-
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2. What is the difference between Supreme, Lord and Christ?
To me these words dont hold much value , I mean i could tell you what the dictionary would say about these words but i don't think that's what your asking.

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3. You mentioned religion, so I would like to ask you... What will be a definition for the word and how do you describe this people?
I can give you the definitive definition for this
Quote
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


As for NDE's , Its an interesting subject but many scientific tests have been carried out to disprove this, there are also not as many of these as you might expect and often accounts vary greatlly depending on the religion of the person having the NDE. Obviously when the body is under great stress ie dying, all kinds of endorphins are released by the body which can quite easily cause hallucinations.


For everyone else that is describing atheism/every human being as religious this is the oxford dictionary's official definition of religion.   


Quote
religion
rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun
noun: religion

    the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

no1 - wrong

God, Aline and ET are the same thing.

no2 - wrong

Supreme is a title only for one person, Lord is a title for person who is leading a group, example: you father is the Lord of your house, Christ is metaphor for the Light or the Holly Spirit.

no3 - wrong

Religion is group of people who is guided by one person. He teach them what to think!

NDE - Tell me, how can you talk about things that you never have experienced them?

Are you somehow reading between the lines of what i wrote? What i wrote about what a god is is the same as what you just said but somehow im wrong? the second one i said i could give the definition since its as simple as a quick google but the poster seemed to be looking for something other than the actual definition of each word. And as for the 3rd one, what you think is the definition and what is the actual definition are 2 different things.

how can i experience something that doesnt exist?

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I started to read this thread, but it's very long, and it seems to be based on the belief that agnostics are atheists. This is not true.

Yes it is.

Agnosticism is the lack of Faith in God.
You can be soooo dense at times. All you have to do is look them both up in the dictionary to see that they are different.

Besides, Jet Cash was talking about the difference between them... not the similarity. You can be such a child at times.



Ok so im obviously too stupid to put together those 3 concepts that you have posted because theres no way i can put those together and come up with that meaning god, And im blind as well because i certainly cant see god in nature.The reason i dont see what you see is because my mind is not poisoned with religion as yours clearly is.

I suppose im lucky we are only conversing over the internet because in another time or place im sure you would be happy to see me stoned or crucified for my complete and utter lack of faith.

Tell me, What would it take to convince you that your worshipping a false idol and there is in fact no god? Im going to assume it cant be done.

Why do you hate Religion?


Best regards.

It's kinda interesting how helloeverybody hates religion. He hates it religiously.

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I started to read this thread, but it's very long, and it seems to be based on the belief that agnostics are atheists. This is not true.

Yes it is.

Agnosticism is the lack of Faith in God.
You can be soooo dense at times. All you have to do is look them both up in the dictionary to see that they are different.

Besides, Jet Cash was talking about the difference between them... not the similarity. You can be such a child at times.


They both don't have faith in God... so: same category.


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