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March 13, 2018, 07:06:52 PM |
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Since an update to 11.3 only one rig can't create the dag file. - open cl error -48
There are RX480 8gb.
So i test the Version 11.2 again and all works fine.
What can it be?
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Omg9500
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March 13, 2018, 07:14:29 PM |
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Guys, I´d really appreciate an advice. I run several 6*rx470/480 rigs. Suddenly out of nowhere Claymore miner refused to start, it says:
OpenCL initializing...
01:20:14:573 1698 AMD Cards available: 6 01:20:14:583 1698 GPU #0: Ellesmere (Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics), 8192 MB available, 36 compute units (pci bus 1:0:0) 01:20:14:586 1698 GPU #0 recognized as Radeon RX 480/580 01:20:14:590 1698 GPU #1: Ellesmere (Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics), 8192 MB available, 36 compute units (pci bus 3:0:0) 01:20:14:595 1698 GPU #1 recognized as Radeon RX 480/580 01:20:14:599 1698 GPU #2: Ellesmere (Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics), 8192 MB available, 36 compute units (pci bus 5:0:0) 01:20:14:604 1698 GPU #2 recognized as Radeon RX 480/580 01:20:14:608 1698 GPU #3: Ellesmere (Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics), 8192 MB available, 36 compute units (pci bus 6:0:0) 01:20:14:612 1698 GPU #3 recognized as Radeon RX 480/580 01:20:14:618 1698 GPU #4: Ellesmere (Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics), 8192 MB available, 36 compute units (pci bus 7:0:0) 01:20:14:622 1698 GPU #4 recognized as Radeon RX 480/580 01:20:14:626 1698 GPU #5: Ellesmere (Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics), 8192 MB available, 36 compute units (pci bus 8:0:0) 01:20:14:630 1698 GPU #5 recognized as Radeon RX 480/580 01:20:14:637 1698 POOL/SOLO version 01:20:14:641 1698 Platform: Windows 01:20:14:720 1698 start building OpenCL program for GPU 0...
...and it hangs forever. After several restarts it may start working for a while, but sooner or later GPU0 (always gpu0) drops to 0,00 mhs and rig freezes.
ETH: job changed 01:18:27:078 190c new buf size: 0 01:18:27:084 190c ETH: 03/13/18-01:18:27 - New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353 01:18:27:088 190c target: 0x00000001fffe0000 (diff: 2147MH), epoch 174(2.36GB) 01:18:27:093 190c ETH - Total Speed: 142.653 Mh/s, Total Shares: 7, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:02 01:18:27:098 190c ETH: GPU0 0.000 Mh/s, GPU1 28.468 Mh/s, GPU2 28.465 Mh/s, GPU3 28.449 Mh/s, GPU4 28.289 Mh/s, GPU5 28.982 Mh/s 01:18:31:640 1934 checked ETH share on CPU, spent 5ms
I tried different drivers, claymore versions (currently using V11.0), installed a HDMI plug on that card, reset OC to default settings. When I disable GPU0 from "device manager", miner starts working without any problems... so only disabling helps. And that´s on 4 out of 6 rigs. Any clues/ideas? Thanks a lot and sorry for such a long message.
Is that on one of your rigs or on all of them? have you tried swapping cards to see if it is a faulty card? I would say it is the card because I had a similar effect. For me one card was overclocked/undervolted too much and stalled and as a consequence the watchdog jumped in and restarted the miner...
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antanaskkk
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March 13, 2018, 07:20:21 PM |
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pre v11, im never getting any incorrect shares dual mining
now, even with 11.4, im getting incorrect shares. i even downclocked mem, increase voltage and fan speeds to no avail, like so noticeable that my hashrate decreased a lot from downclocking. although im not getting any memory errors in hwinfo.
whats up with v11s?
I am moving to Phoenix too, dual mining becomes unprofitable, miner is unstable, devfee is huge for Claymore.
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March 13, 2018, 07:25:48 PM |
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Here's a question: If my biggest and main problem with mining is heat, whats the best way to lower the heat from GPUs? Should I use lower clocks, is there a command line which tells the miner to mine slower/less intense...? I'm willing to sacrifice the hash speed for lower temps. Thanks!
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j2james
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March 13, 2018, 07:26:15 PM |
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Success here too, however all is not well just yet. First, thanks for the stale shares fix on Ethermine, and the 1.5% improvement on hashrate.. We went from 4% to 1% stale shares and 5540 to 5625 MH/s (191 GPUs). However, every hour (dev fee) there seems to be an issue where random rigs stop mining. Prior to 11.x I had roughly 10-12 days without downtime. This was still happening after upgrading to 11.4. Someone in ethOS chat mentioned that this is related to the new SSL stratum connection. After reverting to the old non-SSL port, the issue went away. So, if anyone is experiencing random mining stoppage, I would suggest you do the same. Working great now! But, we need a reliable SSL connection. This was a great idea, and I look forward to being able to use it reliably in the future. https://i.imgur.com/lqukTnf.png https://medium.com/@bitfly/ethermine-stratum-security-upgrade-d2245076e1b5use ssl://eu1.ethermine.org:5555 for example.Reliable SSL server Can anybody help me with ethermine.org pool? I had not found the way to run Claymore with this pool. I can see in console the following ETH: Stratum - connecting to 'eu1.ethermine.org' <94.23.28.180> port 5555 (SSL/TLS) No pool specified for Decred! Ethereum-only mining mode is enabled ETHEREUM-ONLY MINING MODE ENABLED (-mode 1) ETH: eth-proxy stratum mode Watchdog enabled Remote management (READ-ONLY MODE) is enabled on port 3333 SSL/TLS encryption is enabled Pool certificate verified successfully ETH: Stratum - Connected (eu1.ethermine.org:5555) (SSL/TLS) ETH: Share rejected!GPU0 t=33C fan=41%, GPU1 t=36C fan=43%, GPU2 t=31C fan=41%, GPU3 t=30C fan=40%, GPU4 t=36C fan=43%, GPU5 t=33C fan=42% ETH: Job timeout, disconnect, retry in 20 sec...GPU0 t=31C fan=40%, GPU1 t=33C fan=42%, GPU2 t=29C fan=40%, GPU3 t=28C fan=40%, GPU4 t=34C fan=42%, GPU5 t=33C fan=41% ETH: Stratum - connecting to 'eu1.ethermine.org' <51.255.64.43> port 5555 (SSL/TLS) SSL/TLS encryption is enabled Pool certificate verified successfully ETH: Stratum - Connected (eu1.ethermine.org:5555) (SSL/TLS) ETH: Share rejected!GPU0 t=29C fan=40%, GPU1 t=31C fan=40%, GPU2 t=28C fan=40%, GPU3 t=27C fan=40%, GPU4 t=33C fan=42%, GPU5 t=32C fan=41% ETH: Job timeout, disconnect, retry in 20 sec...
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peterboy1
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March 13, 2018, 07:29:17 PM |
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pre v11, im never getting any incorrect shares dual mining
now, even with 11.4, im getting incorrect shares. i even downclocked mem, increase voltage and fan speeds to no avail, like so noticeable that my hashrate decreased a lot from downclocking. although im not getting any memory errors in hwinfo.
whats up with v11s?
I am moving to Phoenix too, dual mining becomes unprofitable, miner is unstable, devfee is huge for Claymore. yeah, i know 11.2 and above is about fixing cheating programs because of ssl integration. but lots of others are affected especially stability. im getting random incorrect shares now within 24hrs. i never had my rigs run more than 24hrs due to this incorrect shares, because whenever i get incorrect shares i downclock mem, after that, i still get incorrect shares with random gpus and so on. cant keep mining for more than 24hrs due to this problem. i wanted to ignore it, but the rule is, incorrect/invalid/stales/rejected are wasted hashing power.
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Marvell2
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March 13, 2018, 07:34:22 PM |
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so claymore is expensive and now unstable smh i guess back to phoeniex
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March 13, 2018, 07:34:26 PM |
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Here's a question: If my biggest and main problem with mining is heat, whats the best way to lower the heat from GPUs? Should I use lower clocks, is there a command line which tells the miner to mine slower/less intense...? I'm willing to sacrifice the hash speed for lower temps. Thanks!
I dual mine which generates a lot of heat. I find lowering the power limit has the biggest effect on lowering temperatures and power usage, while affecting hash rate the least. Next is undervolting the core and the least effect on lowering temperatures is adjusting the clock speed, which also affects the hash rate the most compared to adjusting the power limit and undervolting. Otherwise you can also lower the temperature by increasing the airflow to dissipate the air around the rig. I use a box fan which is cheap and does a good job.
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March 13, 2018, 07:38:22 PM |
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Here's a question: If my biggest and main problem with mining is heat, whats the best way to lower the heat from GPUs? Should I use lower clocks, is there a command line which tells the miner to mine slower/less intense...? I'm willing to sacrifice the hash speed for lower temps. Thanks!
lower clock will reduce has at the same time- if you are fine with it command line for reducing intensity - see Page 1
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March 13, 2018, 07:46:40 PM |
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When can we get a Claymore NeoScrypt version for Linux?
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slymbal007
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March 13, 2018, 08:02:47 PM |
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Success here too, however all is not well just yet. First, thanks for the stale shares fix on Ethermine, and the 1.5% improvement on hashrate.. We went from 4% to 1% stale shares and 5540 to 5625 MH/s (191 GPUs). However, every hour (dev fee) there seems to be an issue where random rigs stop mining. Prior to 11.x I had roughly 10-12 days without downtime. This was still happening after upgrading to 11.4. Someone in ethOS chat mentioned that this is related to the new SSL stratum connection. After reverting to the old non-SSL port, the issue went away. So, if anyone is experiencing random mining stoppage, I would suggest you do the same. Working great now! But, we need a reliable SSL connection. This was a great idea, and I look forward to being able to use it reliably in the future. https://i.imgur.com/lqukTnf.png https://medium.com/@bitfly/ethermine-stratum-security-upgrade-d2245076e1b5use ssl://eu1.ethermine.org:5555 for example.Reliable SSL server Can anybody help me with ethermine.org pool? I had not found the way to run Claymore with this pool. I can see in console the following ETH: Stratum - connecting to 'eu1.ethermine.org' <94.23.28.180> port 5555 (SSL/TLS) No pool specified for Decred! Ethereum-only mining mode is enabled ETHEREUM-ONLY MINING MODE ENABLED (-mode 1) ETH: eth-proxy stratum mode Watchdog enabled Remote management (READ-ONLY MODE) is enabled on port 3333 SSL/TLS encryption is enabled Pool certificate verified successfully ETH: Stratum - Connected (eu1.ethermine.org:5555) (SSL/TLS) ETH: Share rejected!GPU0 t=33C fan=41%, GPU1 t=36C fan=43%, GPU2 t=31C fan=41%, GPU3 t=30C fan=40%, GPU4 t=36C fan=43%, GPU5 t=33C fan=42% ETH: Job timeout, disconnect, retry in 20 sec...GPU0 t=31C fan=40%, GPU1 t=33C fan=42%, GPU2 t=29C fan=40%, GPU3 t=28C fan=40%, GPU4 t=34C fan=42%, GPU5 t=33C fan=41% ETH: Stratum - connecting to 'eu1.ethermine.org' <51.255.64.43> port 5555 (SSL/TLS) SSL/TLS encryption is enabled Pool certificate verified successfully ETH: Stratum - Connected (eu1.ethermine.org:5555) (SSL/TLS) ETH: Share rejected!GPU0 t=29C fan=40%, GPU1 t=31C fan=40%, GPU2 t=28C fan=40%, GPU3 t=27C fan=40%, GPU4 t=33C fan=42%, GPU5 t=32C fan=41% ETH: Job timeout, disconnect, retry in 20 sec...I have this in .bat file timeout /t 15 setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0 setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100 setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1 setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool ssl://eu1.ethermine.org:5555 -ewal 0x26Ff37f6cBa786D906bB2078b52c405DaB3B519A.Miner01 -epsw x -tt 40 -fanmin 100 -fanmax 100 -etha 0 -asm 2 -allpools 1 Use own wallet address please. Not sure why yours is not working,i am not dual mining anymore,since it's not really cost effective for me anymore.
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j2james
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March 13, 2018, 08:27:53 PM |
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I have this in .bat file
timeout /t 15 setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0 setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100 setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1 setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool ssl://eu1.ethermine.org:5555 -ewal 0x26Ff37f6cBa786D906bB2078b52c405DaB3B519A.Miner01 -epsw x -tt 40 -fanmin 100 -fanmax 100 -etha 0 -asm 2 -allpools 1
Thank you. But nothing changes (
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saltypotato
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March 13, 2018, 09:11:16 PM |
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Idunno what's with all the whining, v11.4 runs great.
Modded RX 580 Gaming X 8G getting 30.8 Mh/s ETH & 1.175 Gh/s XVG on Win 10, beta drivers with semi-conservative Claymore settings. Using MSA to set fans at 38% for ~51c on all cards (plus 12V fans blowing through the GPUs), 68F ambient temperature.
Could dial things up or down for more or less power/hashes but things are solid, cool, and fast enough. Will tweak things again later. Should be able to lower wattage by 10 to 15W or bump things up and get 31.25 Mh/s ETH, 1.3 Gh/s XVG and still be stable with reasonable temps but MEH, whatever. (ETH only = 31.25 Mh/s all day long at -mclock 2200 -dcri 8, 48c, 30% fan. -mclock 2225 will do 31.5 but was slightly unstable after 10 hours.)
-etha 0 -estale 0 -dcri 38 -cclock 1215 -cvddc 925 -mvddc 925 -mclock 2200 -tt 59 -tstop 67 -ttdcr 63 -ttli 65 -ftime 10 -minspeed -120 -fanmin 35 -fanmax 55 -gser 1 -allcoins 1 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 (no need to log perfection)
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March 13, 2018, 10:12:29 PM |
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Idunno what's with all the whining, v11.4 runs great.
Modded RX 580 Gaming X 8G getting 30.8 Mh/s ETH & 1.175 Gh/s XVG on Win 10, beta drivers with semi-conservative Claymore settings. Using MSA to set fans at 38% for ~51c on all cards (plus 12V fans blowing through the GPUs), 68F ambient temperature.
Could dial things up or down for more or less power/hashes but things are solid, cool, and fast enough. Will tweak things again later. Should be able to lower wattage by 10 to 15W or bump things up and get 31.25 Mh/s ETH, 1.3 Gh/s XVG and still be stable with reasonable temps but MEH, whatever. (ETH only = 31.25 Mh/s all day long at -mclock 2200 -dcri 8, 48c, 30% fan. -mclock 2225 will do 31.5 but was slightly unstable after 10 hours.)
-etha 0 -estale 0 -dcri 38 -cclock 1215 -cvddc 925 -mvddc 925 -mclock 2200 -tt 59 -tstop 67 -ttdcr 63 -ttli 65 -ftime 10 -minspeed -120 -fanmin 35 -fanmax 55 -gser 1 -allcoins 1 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 (no need to log perfection)
For me, like others, lots of incorrect shares on dual mining (4% for me is a lot!). Reverted to 11.1 and I have zero incorrects. Hope this will be fixed soon or I will just do solo mining, maybe giving a try to Phoenix
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March 13, 2018, 10:13:54 PM |
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Hi all,
Not sure why miner can't connect to DCR when dual mining.
I get the message:
DCR: Stratum - cannot connect to yiimp.ccminer.org:3252 DCR: Stratum - failed to connect try in 20 second
and it keep repeating the same.
ETH is mining perfectly.
Anyone one knows the reason please let me know.
Thanks
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March 13, 2018, 10:16:24 PM |
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I am moving to Phoenix too, dual mining becomes unprofitable, miner is unstable, devfee is huge for Claymore.
I really hope claymore will lower its devfee overall because phoenix miner is much better overall right now and its devfee is 35% lower.
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dragonmike
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March 13, 2018, 10:26:58 PM |
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Here's a question: If my biggest and main problem with mining is heat, whats the best way to lower the heat from GPUs? Should I use lower clocks, is there a command line which tells the miner to mine slower/less intense...? I'm willing to sacrifice the hash speed for lower temps. Thanks!
Who did you steal that account from? A legendary member asking the most basic of questions... Where have you been the last 5 years, "legend"?
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JamiB54
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March 13, 2018, 10:39:28 PM |
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Hello everyone I wanted to know if your antivirus was not alarmed by Claymore's latest executable. This is the first time I have this kind of detection, I got the client on Bitcointalk on the Claymore post, both Mega and Googledrive. I sent the report on the total virus and it shows me this kind of analysis, nothing reassuring
SHA256: c816be5af9f605605a47c689a89e628239001a84c8ef6e205990696a4ef2fdaf Nom du fichier : Claymore's Dual Ethereum Decred_Siacoin_Lbry_Pascal_Blake2s_Kecca... Ratio de détection : 20 / 60 Date d'analyse : 2018-03-13 16:26:16 UTC (il y a 6 heures, 1 minute)
Virus Total
AegisLab Coinminer.Ethereum.Gen!c 20180313 Antiy-AVL RiskWare[RiskTool]/Win32.AGeneric 20180313 AVware Trojan.Win32.Generic!BT 20180313 CAT-QuickHeal Trojan.IGENERIC 20180313 Cylance Unsafe 20180313 Cyren ZIP/Trojan.FNCY-7 20180313 DrWeb Trojan.BtcMine.2330 20180313 ESET-NOD32 a variant of Win64/CoinMiner.BX potentially unwanted 20180313 Fortinet Riskware/Generic 20180313 GData Archive.Trojan.Agent.HPLYT0 20180313 Ikarus PUA.CoinMiner 20180313 Kaspersky not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win32.Generic 20180313 McAfee Artemis!3E5ABA78FC8F 20180313 NANO-Antivirus Trojan.Win32.BtcMine.eykufr 20180313 Rising PUF.CoinMiner!8.4639 (TFE:5:BmMJEOlyP8T) 20180313 Sophos AV Claymore’s Ethereum Dual Miner (PUA) 20180313 Symantec Trojan.Gen.NPE 20180313 TrendMicro Coinmin.EBF55070 20180313 TrendMicro-HouseCall Suspicious_GEN.F47V0313 20180313 ZoneAlarm by Check Point not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win32.Generic 20180313
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March 13, 2018, 10:39:40 PM |
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Dear @Claymore
Can you tell me is it normal that I have so different total hashrate? What is the problem? Claymore miner or my GPUs?
ETH: 03/14/18-00:34:32 - New job from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 ETH - Total Speed: 189.318 Mh/s, Total Shares: 3, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:00 ETH: GPU0 31.565 Mh/s, GPU1 31.692 Mh/s, GPU2 31.724 Mh/s, GPU3 31.362 Mh/s, GPU4 31.246 Mh/s, GPU5 31.729 Mh/s ETH: 03/14/18-00:34:39 - New job from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 ETH - Total Speed: 175.209 Mh/s, Total Shares: 3, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:01 ETH: GPU0 31.697 Mh/s, GPU1 30.633 Mh/s, GPU2 31.702 Mh/s, GPU3 27.850 Mh/s, GPU4 26.629 Mh/s, GPU5 26.699 Mh/s ETH: 03/14/18-00:34:45 - New job from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 ETH - Total Speed: 187.369 Mh/s, Total Shares: 3, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:01 ETH: GPU0 30.963 Mh/s, GPU1 31.333 Mh/s, GPU2 31.082 Mh/s, GPU3 31.158 Mh/s, GPU4 31.410 Mh/s, GPU5 31.422 Mh/s ETH: 03/14/18-00:34:59 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 4) ETH: Share accepted (63 ms)! GPU0 t=40C fan=45%%, GPU1 t=43C fan=46%%, GPU2 t=41C fan=46%%, GPU3 t=38C fan=44%%, GPU4 t=47C fan=48%%, GPU5 t=40C fan=45%% ETH: 03/14/18-00:35:04 - New job from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 ETH - Total Speed: 188.692 Mh/s, Total Shares: 4, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:01 ETH: GPU0 31.552 Mh/s, GPU1 31.717 Mh/s, GPU2 31.661 Mh/s, GPU3 31.017 Mh/s, GPU4 31.738 Mh/s, GPU5 31.006 Mh/s ETH: 03/14/18-00:35:16 - New job from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 ETH - Total Speed: 173.243 Mh/s, Total Shares: 4, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:01 ETH: GPU0 31.727 Mh/s, GPU1 28.583 Mh/s, GPU2 28.311 Mh/s, GPU3 28.557 Mh/s, GPU4 28.722 Mh/s, GPU5 27.343 Mh/s ETH: 03/14/18-00:35:24 - New job from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 ETH - Total Speed: 186.359 Mh/s, Total Shares: 4, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:01 ETH: GPU0 31.709 Mh/s, GPU1 31.355 Mh/s, GPU2 29.162 Mh/s, GPU3 31.366 Mh/s, GPU4 31.320 Mh/s, GPU5 31.446 Mh/s GPU0 t=41C fan=45%%, GPU1 t=44C fan=47%%, GPU2 t=42C fan=46%%, GPU3 t=39C fan=44%%, GPU4 t=48C fan=49%%, GPU5 t=41C fan=45%% ETH: 03/14/18-00:35:34 - New job from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 ETH - Total Speed: 176.728 Mh/s, Total Shares: 4, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:01 ETH: GPU0 27.605 Mh/s, GPU1 28.760 Mh/s, GPU2 28.791 Mh/s, GPU3 28.812 Mh/s, GPU4 31.660 Mh/s, GPU5 31.100 Mh/s ETH: 03/14/18-00:35:45 - New job from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 ETH - Total Speed: 190.346 Mh/s, Total Shares: 4, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:02 ETH: GPU0 31.749 Mh/s, GPU1 31.683 Mh/s, GPU2 31.743 Mh/s, GPU3 31.737 Mh/s, GPU4 31.724 Mh/s, GPU5 31.710 Mh/s GPU0 t=42C fan=46%%, GPU1 t=44C fan=47%%, GPU2 t=42C fan=46%%, GPU3 t=39C fan=44%%, GPU4 t=47C fan=49%%, GPU5 t=41C fan=46%% ETH: 03/14/18-00:36:04 - New job from eth-eu1.nanopool.org:9999 ETH - Total Speed: 185.858 Mh/s, Total Shares: 4, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:02 ETH: GPU0 28.375 Mh/s, GPU1 31.677 Mh/s, GPU2 31.268 Mh/s, GPU3 31.713 Mh/s, GPU4 31.542 Mh/s, GPU5 31.282 Mh/s
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janding
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March 13, 2018, 10:41:33 PM |
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I am moving to Phoenix too, dual mining becomes unprofitable, miner is unstable, devfee is huge for Claymore.
I really hope claymore will lower its devfee overall because phoenix miner is much better overall right now and its devfee is 35% lower. My take on the two miners I was a Phoenix fan. Ran it for few a few months. It is good. Solid miner. Hash rate was higher. Dev fee was lower. However since I started testing Claymore again starting with v 11.3 and now 11.4 It is good. Solid Miner. Hash rate the same or even higher for me than Phoenix now. Feature rich miner, far more detailed features than Phoenix at present. Just the setting for temp and clocking alone is far better. Much lower stale share rate by a large factor than Phoenix. Claymore fixing the stale share rate alone paid for my 1% dev fee they charge. Gotta give the nod to Claymore at this time. These are my experiences and my opinions, you're testing may be different than mine.
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