Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

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Bitfury will be nailing the coffin shut of both BFL and Avalon, unless Avalon gets their shit together and batches of chips start arriving this coming week.  Actually, BFL is already pretty much dead and gone already, and Avalon is really close to finishing up digging their own grave.

I have lots invested in KNC, so here's hoping the technical release they are saying will be out next week is a good one and puts all this FUD to bed.

[FeedbackLoop]

I have lots invested in KNC, so here's hoping the technical release they are saying will be out next week is a good one and puts all this FUD to bed.

Where did you see that?

[Ytterbium]

After 20 years in IT shit happens and I just think they have a small window for problems ~ 2-3 weeks at best ...so in a way my bet of NO should be getting 2:1 odds as if they are what they have made out to be then there is a good chance they can deliver as long as there are no major external factors

popcorn ready

Sure, shit happens.  But at the same time they've said they have lots of margin in their plan timeline to account for that. Unlike BFL they are not just assuming that once they have their chips everything else can be done "in two weeks"

P.S Either way it will be awesome if they do deliver and really good for crypto & a nail in the coffin in BFL !!

Especially since Josh himself said there was "no way" KnC would ship in September.

Bitfury will be nailing the coffin shut of both BFL and Avalon, unless Avalon gets their shit together and batches of chips start arriving this coming week.  Actually, BFL is already pretty much dead and gone already, and Avalon is really close to finishing up digging their own grave.

Unlike BFL, Avalon has actually shipped a lot of stuff with only a few months delay. There are some large orders of chips that have shipped already, and if the chips had good specs there's no reason why people wouldn't trust them again if they actually got their product the first time.

The problem is their chip specs kind of suck.  3-module unit actually has 240 chips.  A 1k order of Avalon chips is 780 BTC, and gets you 3.3Ghash @350Mh/s/chip.

That comes out to 0.23Btc/Ghash.  

On the other hand you can order completely functional KnC units at a rate of 0.18 Btc/Ghash (if you assume $100/btc).

With Bitfury, as well as labcoin, etc coming out with much more efficient chip designs Avalon will either have to cut prices drastically or have their 2nd gen ready.

Or they can just pull an ASICMiner and mine for themselves

[Bitcoinorama]

I have lots invested in KNC, so here's hoping the technical release they are saying will be out next week is a good one and puts all this FUD to bed.

Where did you see that?

I'm not aware of anything.

[MrHempstock]

Having a dog in the fight makes it that much more fun to watch.

[erk]

Bitfury will be nailing the coffin shut of both BFL and Avalon, unless Avalon gets their shit together and batches of chips start arriving this coming week.  Actually, BFL is already pretty much dead and gone already, and Avalon is really close to finishing up digging their own grave.

I have lots invested in KNC, so here's hoping the technical release they are saying will be out next week is a good one and puts all this FUD to bed.

Bitfury are expensive, same price roughly as BFL. You will be hard pressed to make a decent ROI so late into the game at that price.

[nightengale]

Having a dog in the fight makes it that much more fun to watch.

Ha. Fun, and a little nerve-wracking. Hopefully these Swedes are on the up-and-up and know what they are doing.

[MrHempstock]

Bitfury will be nailing the coffin shut of both BFL and Avalon, unless Avalon gets their shit together and batches of chips start arriving this coming week.  Actually, BFL is already pretty much dead and gone already, and Avalon is really close to finishing up digging their own grave.

I have lots invested in KNC, so here's hoping the technical release they are saying will be out next week is a good one and puts all this FUD to bed.

Bitfury are expensive, same price roughly as BFL. You will be hard pressed to make a decent ROI so late into the game at that price.

That's the conclusion I came to when researching which manufacturer to spend my money on (via a GB)

Having a dog in the fight makes it that much more fun to watch.

Ha. Fun, and a little nerve-wracking. Hopefully these Swedes are on the up-and-up and know what they are doing.

I know they're all crapshoots at this point, and we've seen the ugly side of the business for sure. But I'm happy with my $ going to KMC. If anyone can pull it off, it's them.

[Anenome5]

Bitfury will be nailing the coffin shut of both BFL and Avalon, unless Avalon gets their shit together and batches of chips start arriving this coming week.  Actually, BFL is already pretty much dead and gone already, and Avalon is really close to finishing up digging their own grave.

I have lots invested in KNC, so here's hoping the technical release they are saying will be out next week is a good one and puts all this FUD to bed.

That came out a few weeks ago, in the form of engineering drawings of the board and the famous thermal photo of the heatsink debate.

[minternj]

Bitfury are expensive, same price roughly as BFL.

What math are you doing?

bitfury 400 = 8000
bfl 50 x 8 (400) = 19,992

Im assuming you are talking about the 25g starter kit but thats not really comparable since you are getting the ability to add more h boards plus a self contained mining board (pii).

[kano]

RPi is about $40

[YipYip]

RPi is about $40

24$ for the standard unit

[BtcBling]

KNC is good - actually quite good - IF they can deliver in time + 1-2 months - if not then, Im again in deep s.

[kano]

RPi is about $40

24$ for the standard unit

No - they have USB problems - you shouldn't use them.
Only use a 512 B

[erk]

Bitfury are expensive, same price roughly as BFL.

What math are you doing?

bitfury 400 = 8000
bfl 50 x 8 (400) = 19,992

Im assuming you are talking about the 25g starter kit but thats not really comparable since you are getting the ability to add more h boards plus a self contained mining board (pii).

https://www.megabigpower.com/shop/
$19,250 = 400Gh/s Bitfury

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/500-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html
$22,484 = 500GH/s BFL

[minternj]

Bitfury are expensive, same price roughly as BFL.

What math are you doing?

bitfury 400 = 8000
bfl 50 x 8 (400) = 19,992

Im assuming you are talking about the 25g starter kit but thats not really comparable since you are getting the ability to add more h boards plus a self contained mining board (pii).

https://www.megabigpower.com/shop/
$19,250 = 400Gh/s Bitfury

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/500-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html
$22,484 = 500GH/s BFLl

You are comparing something you will get this month with something you will get 4 months from now? Either way August orders are sold out. I'm talking about the October 400

[dhenson]

KNC is good - actually quite good - IF they can deliver in time + 1-2 months - if not then, Im again in deep s.

I hear you.  The Hosted Jupiter I ordered is my first attempt at mining.  If it goes well, I can see myself being a repeat customer and staying loyal to KnC.  If it doesn't return ROI I'll just stick to trading securities.

At this point however, I have every reason to believe that they will deliver on time.

[erk]

Bitfury are expensive, same price roughly as BFL.

What math are you doing?

bitfury 400 = 8000
bfl 50 x 8 (400) = 19,992

Im assuming you are talking about the 25g starter kit but thats not really comparable since you are getting the ability to add more h boards plus a self contained mining board (pii).

https://www.megabigpower.com/shop/
$19,250 = 400Gh/s Bitfury

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/500-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html
$22,484 = 500GH/s BFLl

You are comparing something you will get this month with something you will get 4 months from now? Either way August orders are sold out. I'm talking about the October 400

I am interested in whats actually been sold and delivered, not what's months off still.

October is a long way off, you don't know what BFL's price will be then. It certainly wont be what it's August price is if they want to remain in the game.

[minternj]

Right but we are talking price comparison for what you can order now. By your assumption bit fury can lower too.

[Mobius]

Bitfury will be nailing the coffin shut of both BFL and Avalon, unless Avalon gets their shit together and batches of chips start arriving this coming week.  Actually, BFL is already pretty much dead and gone already, and Avalon is really close to finishing up digging their own grave.

I have lots invested in KNC, so here's hoping the technical release they are saying will be out next week is a good one and puts all this FUD to bed.

Bitfury are expensive, same price roughly as BFL. You will be hard pressed to make a decent ROI so late into the game at that price.

No it's not, Oct Delivery 400Gh Bitfury is $8000 https://megabigpower.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=53
Order a BFL now, and you will probably not see it this year