Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[ImI]

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hi phoenix,

whats wrong? i remember you as polite and friendly person in this thread. what happend? how is mining going?

greets

ImI

[joeventura]

I corrected your post for you.
Now I am just as pissed at KNC as the next guy, however you do not know Bitcoinorama's situation, I on the other hand do know what is going on through a private conversations with him. I am not going to get into details except to say, I corrected your post to reflect accuaracy as I know it.

so if you're communicating with orama and you've been saying there's going to be no physical miners delivered but only cloud hashing then we should take it you know more than you're revealing.  No?

I'm sure you swore to secrecy but you should give us more of a hint if you did in fact know something that's going to help us out.

 

Personal reasons that have nothing to do with KNC.

[sbfree]

Retards.
I'll never do anything for this forum again. It's simply over-run by asshole idiots.
bon-voyage

You will be back.  You are addicted to this place and cannot stay away.

well I hope it wasn't me that pissed him off, and I think most of us appreciated phoenix's input when it came to figuring out our prototypes.

And phoenix, hope you stick around, especially if you are/will be mining with KNC hardware....just glad you got that last statement off your chest so we don't have to hear about it again.

Lesson learned for all I hope.

Cheers, and happy mining.

[sbfree]

I corrected your post for you.
Now I am just as pissed at KNC as the next guy, however you do not know Bitcoinorama's situation, I on the other hand do know what is going on through a private conversations with him. I am not going to get into details except to say, I corrected your post to reflect accuaracy as I know it.

so if you're communicating with orama and you've been saying there's going to be no physical miners delivered but only cloud hashing then we should take it you know more than you're revealing.  No?

I'm sure you swore to secrecy but you should give us more of a hint if you did in fact know something that's going to help us out.

 

Personal reasons that have nothing to do with KNC.

Personal, as in "a man of his word??"

Joe, are you waiting on any KNC gear or have you refunded?? I imagine the answer to this would be a hint, hint hint.

[eiliant]

hi phoenix,

whats wrong? i remember you as polite and friendly person in this thread. what happend? how is mining going?

greets

ImI

Too many provokers over the course of say more than half a year. It's hard to be helpful in an environment where there's nothing to be gained, and people stabbing at any and every crack, even when there's none and only speculation. Especially since money is involved, even the slightest thing that goes wrong can turn people into assholes. And many things have went wrong. Money controls our life, at least until enough is earned where we won't have to worry about it (which few achieve). Especially with the lack of accountability that pseudo anonymity brings, it's easy for people to be assholes.

Poor dude. No one can deny that over the months he had been helpful and pretty transparent. Anyone should keep in mind online to not take attacks seriously. But I guess it's hard with how personal and consistent the attacks have been.

I appreciate the information that both sides bring, but the tone and accusations honestly helps no one.

[isimme]

Ya know what?   I don't need this shit. Here goes nothin'   I and my bro got ripped so you idiots can all FUCK OFF. And NO I never said I would hand out rewards for CTS refunds. I said I'd give up to 80% of RECOVERED btc if your info led to the RECOVERY of the btc... not REFUNDED by CTS because Jay got scared...yeah.. Jay Watson; Avenger's info on Jay was spot-on, but since Jay never saw it until after he REFUNDED WILLINGLY, it couldn't possibly have been a factor... but I was nice and gave rewards anyways, and not small ones. So go to your fucking dictionaries and look up the difference between Refund, and Recover. I chose that word for a reason. Then Avenger and Edgar have the gaul to try and make me look like the scammer when he himself had already pm'd me tons of proof to the contrary, and fucking NASA checked and verified it. They were live accounts. You saw them, so don't act like a sissy bitch liar now acting like you are almighty God himself and you deemed me Evil or something... To this I say.... GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKING LYING, BACKSTABBING, ASSHOLE IDIOT. I've done nothing wrong. Fuck off  Stupid idiots actually think we created this CTS crap so we could rip and refund ourselves? I've never heard a more stupid statement. Even after seeing live European local accounts linked to it. Duh. You guys have ate too many paint chips as children.
I offered you a tidy reward SEVERAL TIMES, and you refused it. It's all in the thread for all to see, along with other crazy totally insane shit.
And if anyone doubts me....Read the fucking blockchain transactions, and follow the money. Retards.
I'll never do anything for this forum again. It's simply over-run by asshole idiots.
bon-voyage

If there was no truth to what Avenger and others were saying you wouldn't react nearly this bad..

You've helped me out with some of your posts and I'd hate to see you go(I don't think your the CTS scammer)
but you are a liar and you broke your word and now are trying to break the truth of the matter with semantics.
I don't however think you are a bad guy, just not a model citizen or hero.

Accept who you are and either deal with it or change it, cuz you are just as mad at others as you are with yourself.

To reiterate I honestly would hate to see you go and...
not to be a dick..
but I think you are lying again,
this time about really leaving this forum

[DPoS]

hi phoenix,

whats wrong? i remember you as polite and friendly person in this thread. what happend? how is mining going?

greets

ImI

Too many provokers over the course of say more than half a year. It's hard to be helpful in an environment where there's nothing to be gained, and people stabbing at any and every crack, even when there's none and only speculation. Especially since money is involved, even the slightest thing that goes wrong can turn people into assholes. And many things have went wrong. Money controls our life, at least until enough is earned where we won't have to worry about it (which few achieve). Especially with the lack of accountability that pseudo anonymity brings, it's easy for people to be assholes.

Poor dude. No one can deny that over the months he had been helpful and pretty transparent. Anyone should keep in mind online to not take attacks seriously. But I guess it's hard with how personal and consistent the attacks have been.

I appreciate the information that both sides bring, but the tone and accusations honestly helps no one.

Jesus,, don't make him as a martyr or on a pedestal.. there were plenty of us who gave up sleeping last Oct to share all our findings and everyone got arrows in our backs from this sharkfest thread

[edgar]

Ya know what?   I don't need this shit. Here goes nothin'   I and my bro got ripped so you idiots can all FUCK OFF. And NO I never said I would hand out rewards for CTS refunds. I said I'd give up to 80% of RECOVERED btc if your info led to the RECOVERY of the btc... not REFUNDED by CTS because Jay got scared...yeah.. Jay Watson; Avenger's info on Jay was spot-on, but since Jay never saw it until after he REFUNDED WILLINGLY, it couldn't possibly have been a factor... but I was nice and gave rewards anyways, and not small ones. So go to your fucking dictionaries and look up the difference between Refund, and Recover. I chose that word for a reason. Then Avenger and Edgar have the gaul to try and make me look like the scammer when he himself had already pm'd me tons of proof to the contrary, and fucking NASA checked and verified it. They were live accounts. You saw them, so don't act like a sissy bitch liar now acting like you are almighty God himself and you deemed me Evil or something... To this I say.... GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKING LYING, BACKSTABBING, ASSHOLE IDIOT. I've done nothing wrong. Fuck off  Stupid idiots actually think we created this CTS crap so we could rip and refund ourselves? I've never heard a more stupid statement. Even after seeing live European local accounts linked to it. Duh. You guys have ate too many paint chips as children.
I offered you a tidy reward SEVERAL TIMES, and you refused it. It's all in the thread for all to see, along with other crazy totally insane shit.
And if anyone doubts me....Read the fucking blockchain transactions, and follow the money. Retards.
I'll never do anything for this forum again. It's simply over-run by asshole idiots.
bon-voyage

No... Fuck YOU, LYING, SCAMMING, MULTIPLE ACCOUNT ABUSING, SHITCUNT!!

YOU & YOUR FAKE MATES/FAMILY/COHORTS.....SUFFER THE SHIT YOU BROUGHT UPON YOURSELVES!!

SUFFER!!!

EVEN WITH A THOUSAND NEW ACCOUNTS MR PRESIDENT, YOU WILL ALWAYS REEK OF THE FILTH THAT ROTS INSIDE OF YOU!!

ALWAYS!!

With all your screaming & ranting this is the most honest you have EVER been, the true you, yet you remain a pathetic confidence trickster..

[ElGabo]

This thread.....

Is going crazy....

 

[paranoidx]

Bitcoin: Serious Business

[1Neptune]

To reiterate I honestly would hate to see you go and...
not to be a dick..
but I think you are lying again,
this time about really leaving this forum

Only time will tell.

[merv77]

...

No... Fuck YOU, LYING, SCAMMING, MULTIPLE ACCOUNT ABUSING, SHITCUNT!!

YOU & YOUR FAKE MATES/FAMILY/COHORTS.....SUFFER THE SHIT YOU BROUGHT UPON YOURSELVES!!

SUFFER!!!

EVEN WITH A THOUSAND NEW ACCOUNTS MR PRESIDENT, YOU WILL ALWAYS REEK OF THE FILTH THAT ROTS INSIDE OF YOU!!

ALWAYS!!

With all your screaming & ranting this is the most honest you have EVER been, the true you, yet you remain a pathetic confidence trickster..

if your psychiatrist seen you obsession over this shit he'd get you committed for long long time

relax or you're going to flip your lid in a way that it wont be repairable

[Biomech]

...

No... Fuck YOU, LYING, SCAMMING, MULTIPLE ACCOUNT ABUSING, SHITCUNT!!

YOU & YOUR FAKE MATES/FAMILY/COHORTS.....SUFFER THE SHIT YOU BROUGHT UPON YOURSELVES!!

SUFFER!!!

EVEN WITH A THOUSAND NEW ACCOUNTS MR PRESIDENT, YOU WILL ALWAYS REEK OF THE FILTH THAT ROTS INSIDE OF YOU!!

ALWAYS!!

With all your screaming & ranting this is the most honest you have EVER been, the true you, yet you remain a pathetic confidence trickster..

if your psychiatrist seen you obsession over this shit he'd get you committed for long long time

relax or you're going to flip your lid in a way that it wont be repairable

That ship already sailed... I haven't seen an edgar post in months, cuz nobody quoted him I see I didn't miss anything.

[bummi28]

There are rumors that the next gen asicminer product will be available in April and use .5w/gh. I'm also very impressed by what bitmain was able to do with their antminers and hope they come out with a more power efficient version soon. The 1TH dragon units also look very interesting.

Stop pre-ordering, people! There is no need to take additional risk with pre-orders when competent companies are producing mining hardware at a fair price that ships immediately.

Knc could be dominating the in stock bitcoin mining hardware market by shipping jupiters as fast as they can make them, but they chose to misuse Neptune preorder money to build their own private mining farm.

Have heard the same, next generation Antminer should be available in April with much more power efficience, and Bitmain is one of the companies wich one changes the miner market away from long time pre-orders. Have ordered some S1 since december and must say - very fast delivery (shortest delivery was received three days after order from china to germany!), very good support & contact with Sushi - perfect, only the power consumption of S1 is too high for long time mining...

And sorry for all "KNC evangelists" - the only thing what you will have with all the Neptune pre-orders is probably a big loss, maybe A.Kennemar and his friends only interested now to put a lot of money in there own pockets... In the swedish video everyone can see how many miners are working only for KNC ***right now*** - probably this is the way wich one the pre-order money is gone. They have delivered the 28nm products last year and after everyone had trust KNC, they have made a big bang to mine all for there own pockets - The temptation was too great, maybe - just my 2 cents...

[elasticband]

Have heard the same, next generation Antminer should be available in April with much more power efficience, and Bitmain is one of the companies wich one changes the miner market away from long time pre-orders. Have ordered some S1 since december and must say - very fast delivery (shortest delivery was received three days after order from china to germany!), very good support & contact with Sushi - perfect, only the power consumption of S1 is too high for long time mining...

I think yu will find it is Asciminer/Bitfountain who should be launching their gen3 miners in April, not Bitmain.

[jelin1984]

If anyone here have a good Jupiter November and want to trade pm me

[Zelek Uther]

Have heard the same, next generation Antminer should be available in April with much more power efficience, and Bitmain is one of the companies wich one changes the miner market away from long time pre-orders. Have ordered some S1 since december and must say - very fast delivery (shortest delivery was received three days after order from china to germany!), very good support & contact with Sushi - perfect, only the power consumption of S1 is too high for long time mining...

I think yu will find it is Asciminer/Bitfountain who should be launching their gen3 miners in April, not Bitmain.

You're right.

However, Bitmain has dropped a tantalising hint on their thread about their next generation AntMiner:

Will these coupons be able to be used for any new products that come out such as the S2?

When S2 comes, we will be issuing coupons again 

We have no more information than that.

[RoadStress]

Knc could be dominating the in stock bitcoin mining hardware market by shipping jupiters as fast as they can make them, but they chose to misuse Neptune preorder money to build their own private mining farm.

yes, that was definitly a cooler

Still better than other coolers...

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hi phoenix,

whats wrong? i remember you as polite and friendly person in this thread. what happend? how is mining going?

greets

ImI

I was just about to ask the same question. Small mining profits make one angry Phoenix.

[edgar]

'rubes/newbs' not falling for the nice guy routine is what sets the reality ball rolling

its the proof in every scammers M.O.

nice guy/gal, promise the world

oops, something went wrong

victim gets suspicious

scammer goes mental



addendum -

victim usually says fuck this, cant trust anyone

scammer usually says haha, i'm a genius (in reality he/she is an utter cunt with NOTHING better to do with their time/'life')

[kendog77]

There are rumors that the next gen asicminer product will be available in April and use .5w/gh. I'm also very impressed by what bitmain was able to do with their antminers and hope they come out with a more power efficient version soon. The 1TH dragon units also look very interesting.

I should check out their thread.. but did you set up any antminers yet?? what are you using to run them?  and I've been keeping an eye on friedcat too if he can deliver those specs but I doubt he will sell for cheap going by his past sales.... but maybe the climate has changed

Yes, I have over 2TH worth of Antminers running right now. They are rock solid and have been running for weeks without so much as a restart. The only downside is the power consumption and heat, which is 2W/GH. I would buy more if they were more power efficient, and the heat is manageable in the winter time, but I'm holding off because the ones I have now will go on ebay once the weather gets warmer and I can replace them with more power efficient hardware.

If I had access to cheap, abundant electricity and cooling, Antminers would be ideal for a huge farm, but they have scaling limitations due to power usage and heat for home miners.

Jupiters are better due to power efficiency (1.2W to 1.3W per GH), but you can't beat the price and delivery time of Antminers. Bitmain also appears to be a very honest and straightforward company, which is odd in the mining world, and I like supporting honest mining companies that offer a good product at a fair price.