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[Febo]

I missed on a lot of good content!  ... Also a few days ago or something like that there was some kind of study or counting that the seasonal Flu has dropped 300-400 times or more in some parts of the world.  

That is super logical. People are more aware of viruses and are taking care to keep distance and wear mask and wash hands and whatever. Flue will be totally unimportant in next few years until people will forget about covid-19 and start living old life back.

Meanwhile in China, the epicenter of where the entire world Covid shitshow started....

For sure they are monitoring perfectly but totally zero reasons for them to limit anything now for several months. Currently whole China with 1.4 billion people have 186 infected. They fought hard and were under watchful eye of whole world. China beat covid-19 long time ago. They have reasons to party.

[OutOfMemory]

@ Torque

The deadly pandemic killed 3 people in UK hospitals in the last 24 hours. There are probably more people who die from jerking off induced heart attacks every day than this virus.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-uk-coronavirus-hospital-deaths-22637304.amp

Wait...
Doctors and research told me that wanking a lot would be healthy for body and soul.

EDIT:

proudhonk was sleeping
dreaming of five bucks per coin
then he woke up, wet

the nullster checked by
long time no see, welcome back
defending the truth

Swaystar, oh my dear
don't think you can change the way
merits are used here

#haikufunday

[nullius]

Focus on the IF

IF

An apocryphal but amusing tale:

Alexander the Great sent to Sparta a demand for their surrender:  “If we conquer you by force, then we will slay your men, rape your women, enslave your children, seize your treasures, burn your city...” (etc., etc.)

The Laconic reply:  “If.”

(Alexander physically destroyed Thebes, killed the Theban men, and enslaved the Theban women and children as a punishment for their rebellion against him.  He left Sparta alone—probably because he didn’t want it, rather than from fear of conflict; at that point in history, Sparta was in decline.  I am guessing that the above story imaginatively plays off of that, and King Leonidas’ famous “μoλὼν λαβέ” (‘come and get them’) in reply to the Persians’ demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons.  A more amusing bit of the actual history:  Phryne the courtesan later offered to rebuild the city walls for the surviving Thebans; her offer was rejected, but that gives a measure of how wealthy she was.)

So good to see that WO is just chock full of love, peace, happiness, and all those other hippie things.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Corns are boring/ These days they are moving sideways @d_eddie

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Buttler was my man today. Smashed Aussies!

[Paashaas]

Coronavirus Cases: 27,202,829. Deaths: 885,764. Recovered: 19,288,016.

[OutOfMemory]

Coronavirus Cases: 27,202,829. Deaths: 885,764. Recovered: 19,288,016.

So by the time i guess it's safe to say that covid's lethality is higher than the flu's.
However, take care of yourselves and the ones you love.

@Bitcoin:
No sweat. We are still above weekly EMA(21) and never went under EMA(200) this year in the weekly, but for the covid dip.
Who tf can still be bearish?

[Torque]

Coronavirus Cases: 27,202,829. Deaths: 885,764. Recovered: 19,288,016.

So by the time i guess it's safe to say that covid's lethality is higher than the flu's.

According to the CDC's own website data for the U.S., 94% of Covid-19 deaths had comorbities with some other cause of death (e.g., flu, pneumonia, heart disease, diabetes, organ failure, heart attack, blunt force trama, cancer, etc.).

Only 6% of related Covid-19 deaths were tagged as "Covid only" as the cause (11,569 people in the U.S.).

Also, 99% of Covid-related deaths were over the age of 65. The majority were 70+.

[jbreher]

Weird. Last time I heard anything from Edan Yago, he was telling us at Bitcoin 2013 San Jose Conference about a micronation he was in negotiations with a host nation to allow within their borders. OK, not really a micronation, but an Economic Autonomous Zone. As history hath shewn, it never really came to pass.

Dude... you gotta check this out:
https://prospera.hn/

Real change takes time - it's not Sushi...

Mea Culpa. I was wrong. Sorry for propagating misinfo. And congratulations on your progress to date.

Incidentally - good to speak with you again

[Cryptotourist]

So good to see that WO is just chock full of love, peace, happiness, and all those other hippie things.

Hey I don't mind going full family style, especially if SwingStar321 is OK with it.

Sharing is caring.

[bitserve]

Coronavirus Cases: 27,202,829. Deaths: 885,764. Recovered: 19,288,016.

So by the time i guess it's safe to say that covid's lethality is higher than the flu's.

According to the CDC's own website data for the U.S., 94% of Covid-19 deaths had comorbities with some other cause of death (e.g., flu, pneumonia, heart disease, heart attack, blunt force trama, cancer, etc.).

Only 6% of related Covid-19 deaths were tagged as "Covid only" cause.

Also, 99% of Covid-related deaths were over the age of 65. The majority were 70+.

If you take out comorbidities then almost no one would "officially" die from an illness. Many/most people over 65 do have comorbidities in the strict sense.

Most of the covid infected people that die do so because of an acute pneumonia, if you exclude that your stats are useless.

Also, are you sure about 99% of covid related deaths were over the age of 65? Source?

I do agree that the majority were over 70+ though.

[Torque]

Also, are you sure about 99% of covid related deaths were over the age of 65? Source?

Go look it up, all the data is there on the CDC's own website.

Also fun fact: The numbers of deaths in the 94% group? Pretty much right in line with # of deaths in 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, etc.

is 99% already not more than enough to be considered a majority?

Apparently not to those that want to fear and treat Covid-19 as the second coming of the plague.

[xhomerx10]

Also, 99% of Covid-related deaths were over the age of 65. The majority were 70+.

is 99% already not more than enough to be considered a majority?

 It depends upon what the meaning of the word "is" is.

[explorer]

Coronavirus Cases: 27,202,829. Deaths: 885,764. Recovered: 19,288,016.

does anyone still believe that crap? afaik they still don't have a remotely reliable test. 

Governments can eat a bag of dicks, with a side of their own fear.  In the mean time I sure hope I don't get shot,  fall off a roof while choking on a hotdog and die of covid.

[OutOfMemory]

Coronavirus Cases: 27,202,829. Deaths: 885,764. Recovered: 19,288,016.

So by the time i guess it's safe to say that covid's lethality is higher than the flu's.

According to the CDC's own website data for the U.S., 94% of Covid-19 deaths had comorbities with some other cause of death (e.g., flu, pneumonia, heart disease, heart attack, blunt force trama, cancer, etc.).

OK, that's a relation, but how was the data collected?
Do we know if, for example, recorded heart attack victims were diagnosed covid19 post mortem or vice versa?
Even if a flu patient dies of a heart attack, the flu is considered as reason of death, afaik.

Only 6% of related Covid-19 deaths were tagged as "Covid only" cause (11,569 people in the U.S.).
Also, 99% of Covid-related deaths were over the age of 65. The majority were 70+.

How do these two figures compare to the flu, by the way?

Still a lot to learn about Covid19 but the virus itself quite sure isn't faked, unlike some are confidently spreading that Covid "isn't real"...

[Torque]

Still a lot to learn about Covid19 but the virus itself quite sure isn't faked, unlike some are confidently spreading that Covid "isn't real"...

But that's the rub. Most people that take issue are denying the risk level that the MSM and govt is pushing, not that Covid-19 "isn't real" or "doesn't exist". I'm quite sure that it does exist.

But those people, the majority, get labeled as "conspiracy theorists" or "Covid deniers" and get thrown in with the wackos anyway.  

[OutOfMemory]

Coronavirus Cases: 27,202,829. Deaths: 885,764. Recovered: 19,288,016.

does anyone still believe that crap? afaik they still don't have a remotely reliable test.  

Governments can eat a bag of dicks, with a side of their own fear.  In the mean time I sure hope I don't get shot,  fall off a roof while choking on a hotdog and die of covid.

You forgot the media.
It's not exactly the virus that creates all the new chaos, but it's more how society* is handling it.

*You can reduce "society" to governments and media as well, because they are the most prominent drivers of fear.

EDIT:

Still a lot to learn about Covid19 but the virus itself quite sure isn't faked, unlike some are confidently spreading that Covid "isn't real"...

But that's the rub. Most people that take issue are denying the risk level that the MSM and govt is pushing, not that Covid-19 "isn't real" or "doesn't exist". I'm quite sure it does.

But those people, the majority, get labeled as "conspiracy theorists" or "Covid deniers" and get thrown it with them anyway.  

The above statement was by no means meant personally, but as an example of the extremes that are results of the ways humans are handling their own subconscious fears.

[Biodom]

Coronavirus Cases: 27,202,829. Deaths: 885,764. Recovered: 19,288,016.

So by the time i guess it's safe to say that covid's lethality is higher than the flu's.

According to the CDC's own website data for the U.S., 94% of Covid-19 deaths had comorbities with some other cause of death (e.g., flu, pneumonia, heart disease, diabetes, organ failure, heart attack, blunt force trama, cancer, etc.).

Only 6% of related Covid-19 deaths were tagged as "Covid only" as the cause (11,569 people in the U.S.).

Also, 99% of Covid-related deaths were over the age of 65. The majority were 70+.

Re highlighted..
The actual number is 79.2% (high, but nowhere close to 99%)
Source: Death by age groups
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics

[Torque]

In WO, in in my own P&S thread, and elsewhere, I have been shouting from the rooftops since March that people should stop panicking.  (Though there is something to panic about:  Impending extreme economic hardship, starvation, and unlimited tyranny...  I fear hunger more than I fear Covid!)  I saw that the self-destructive mass reaction was bad; so did many others, IIRC (?) including you.  If people don’t heed sound reason, I don’t see what the Chinese have to do with it—unless the Chinese somehow control other peoples’ governments, mainstream media, and masses of ordinary people who are blindly terrified into submission.

I think we agree.

My point was simply that the Covid-19 virus was not the second coming of the plague that every govt around the world *except China's* pretends it to be. The recent photos of them enjoying life almost to pre-Covid level days is the proof. And who would know better than the country where the virus originated in the first place, and with 1.4B people has the most to lose?

Why the hell is the rest of the world still in lockdown mode? This is fkn ridiculous.

[bitserve]

Coronavirus Cases: 27,202,829. Deaths: 885,764. Recovered: 19,288,016.

So by the time i guess it's safe to say that covid's lethality is higher than the flu's.

According to the CDC's own website data for the U.S., 94% of Covid-19 deaths had comorbities with some other cause of death (e.g., flu, pneumonia, heart disease, diabetes, organ failure, heart attack, blunt force trama, cancer, etc.).

Only 6% of related Covid-19 deaths were tagged as "Covid only" as the cause (11,569 people in the U.S.).

Also, 99% of Covid-related deaths were over the age of 65. The majority were 70+.

Re highlighted..
The actual number is 79.2% (high, but nowhere close to 99%)
Source: Death by age groups
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics

Thanks. I couldn't be arsed to look it up, but that data is more consistent to the ones I had. Nice you did check out the specific source Torque was referring to.

I really don't understand this polarization between "we are all gonna die from covid" vs "it is completely irrelevant and people die just because they are old or ill". Manipulating the stats or simply spreading missinformation/fake data doesn't help either.

There are many people whose position about this particular subject is in a much more healthy and reasonable middle point.