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Question: Oct. 23 Closing Price:
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$8,000-$8,500 - 0 (0%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 0 (0%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 0 (0%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 0 (0%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 1 (1.5%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 0 (0%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 3 (4.5%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 5 (7.6%)
$12,000-$12,500 - 16 (24.2%)
$12,500-$13,000 - 12 (18.2%)
$13,000-$13,500 - 8 (12.1%)
$13,500-$14,000 - 5 (7.6%)
>$14,000 - 14 (21.2%)
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August 14, 2020, 08:53:26 PM

What does it means when even Warren Buffet shots legacy fiat financials and get long Gold(sir something really close to)?

Berkshire reduces Wells Fargo, JPMorgan, Goldman stakes; adds Barrick Gold

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Aug 14 (Reuters) - Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc BRKa.N said on Friday it has reduced its investments in some of the largest U.S. banks, lowering its stakes in Wells Fargo & Co WFC.N and JPMorgan Chase & Co JPM.N and eliminating a stake in Goldman Sachs Group Inc GS.N

In a regulatory filing detailing its U.S.-listed investments as of March 31, Berkshire also disclosed a new 20.9 million share investment in Toronto-based Barrick Gold Corp ABX.TO, one of the world's largest mining companies


If warren Buffet want to buy Gold, it’s time to get your seatbelt fastened.

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What does it means when even Warren Buffet shots legacy fiat financials and get long Gold(sir something really close to)?

Berkshire reduces Wells Fargo, JPMorgan, Goldman stakes; adds Barrick Gold

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Aug 14 (Reuters) - Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc BRKa.N said on Friday it has reduced its investments in some of the largest U.S. banks, lowering its stakes in Wells Fargo & Co WFC.N and JPMorgan Chase & Co JPM.N and eliminating a stake in Goldman Sachs Group Inc GS.N

In a regulatory filing detailing its U.S.-listed investments as of March 31, Berkshire also disclosed a new 20.9 million share investment in Toronto-based Barrick Gold Corp ABX.TO, one of the world's largest mining companies


If warren Buffet want to buy Gold, it’s time to get your seatbelt fastened.

[insert “it’s happening.gif” here]
My body is ready.

That's a weird move from WB.
I guess they did not let him do his favorite deals (8-10% coupon on some preferrds), so he got cranky.
Still, his Wells Fargo stake is 6bil vs goldmimner (GOLD) 600mil.
However, he is known to take and exit positions in chunks.
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August 14, 2020, 10:42:03 PM

You guys got the 12 word seed thing part wrong.

Short version:
12 words is like 128 bits (2048^12 = 2^132)
24 words is like 256 bits

Long version:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Seed_phrase
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6twuj1/are_12word_seeds_for_bitcoin_private_keys_secure/

There was some nuance to the question that sort of took it in a particular direction.

The discussion started after someone posted a picture of a cool bolt/wingnut/washer mnemonic device.  And the question was how long would it take to put 24 (or 12) words into the right order.

12 vs 24 from the dictionary of 4096 words?  Both quite secure.  But if you had the 12 washers and did not know the order, doable with enough CPU power to run the permutations.  24? Not so much.

So I think we were talking about different parts of the elephant.

Ahh yes.. if anyone has physical access to your bolt and nut, you're probably almost screwed, especially if they have not yet disassembled the device. If they were stupid enough to unlock the nut and spill out the washers randomly, then you have some time to move the coins (assuming that was not your only copy of the seed phrase).

a 24 word seed. on two bolts.

brass washers numbered 1 - 12   using 12 seed words of 24

aluminum washers number 1-12. using 12 seed words of 24
 
stored in two places.

if an evil doer  finds the brass ones he will think he has a 12 word set of a seed and go no where.

if a second evil doer finds the aluminum ones he will think he has a 12 word set of a seed and go no where.

so an evil doer needs to find both and then figure it is a 24 seed wallet not a pair  of separate 12 seed wallets


but what if i find both my brass 1-12 and my aluminum 1-12

well a comes first so list the 12 aluminum then list the 12 brass.
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August 14, 2020, 10:59:46 PM
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a 24 word seed. on two bolts.


Splitting it only doubles your chance of losing it all by losing just one of them.

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a 24 word seed. on two bolts.


Splitting it only doubles your chance of losing it all by losing just one of them.



Indeed, people seem to no be quite getting it.
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August 14, 2020, 11:43:28 PM

I'm no expert in predicting the future (who is?), but observing recent Bitcoin price action, and the ease of crossing the 10,000 € boundary multiple times, give me a strong indication/gut feeling that we are in the beginning of a MEGA pump of stratospheric proportions.

Brace yourselves. 6 digits coming soon.

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-- WO Dick Pic Buffet on May 12th, 2021.

Whoaza, AlcoHoDL....  Shocked    We are going to need to bring batman out to slap/snap you out of your seemingly overflowing and exuberant bullishness.

You are out of line, soldier.

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Not just yet...

Batman will give the slapping, but only after May 12th, 2021 can it be decided who will receive it.  Wink

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a 24 word seed. on two bolts.


Splitting it only doubles your chance of losing it all by losing just one of them.



Indeed, people seem to no be quite getting it.

actually I get it just fine.

If I went this route I would have the two bolts sorted in two different bank safety deposit boxes.


The bolts are more of a back up for physical destruction safety of the  wallet.

For me at my age hodl for more then 10 years may happen but I would be 73 in ten years. With no kids so I would most likely want to spend the money so having it stashed in 1 safety box is not  what I want. If I have the two bolts spilt in two boxes it will take me more time to get to it.

So it forces me to hodl I would like to hodl till I am 73.
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C'mon BTC, show us what ya got!
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After this I also thought it might be cool to stamp them in something other than the actual order and store a key to that in a second place.

Nifty - but i seem to tend to the over complex...

If yu want to get fancy grab a book and page thoruogh it until you find the first word of a paragraph that matches the seed word and stamp that page number on with the seed.

there are all kinds of simple things you can do to add entropy.

Shit use seed words that are a random number that only you know on the list from the actual word. Combine that with the book method and then Let someone have fun with that. Wink





Fun battle going on.

http://dave.freeinforadar.ch/btcwars/
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https://twitter.com/BitmexWhale/status/1294434224800444416
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What does it means when even Warren Buffet shots legacy fiat financials and get long Gold(sir something really close to)?

Berkshire reduces Wells Fargo, JPMorgan, Goldman stakes; adds Barrick Gold

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Aug 14 (Reuters) - Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc BRKa.N said on Friday it has reduced its investments in some of the largest U.S. banks, lowering its stakes in Wells Fargo & Co WFC.N and JPMorgan Chase & Co JPM.N and eliminating a stake in Goldman Sachs Group Inc GS.N

In a regulatory filing detailing its U.S.-listed investments as of March 31, Berkshire also disclosed a new 20.9 million share investment in Toronto-based Barrick Gold Corp ABX.TO, one of the world's largest mining companies


If warren Buffet want to buy Gold, it’s time to get your seatbelt fastened.

[insert “it’s happening.gif” here]
My body is ready.

But he's still got plenty of Bank of America, and says it's a "fantastic business". Perhaps just sorting his bank holdings?
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Neat!

They are using CoinbasePro data for the "battle."
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Wow, just wow...prior Prudential CEO recommends buying bitcoin!
"Old money" is coming just as well.

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idRCV008LQI

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a 24 word seed. on two bolts.


Splitting it only doubles your chance of losing it all by losing just one of them.



Indeed, people seem to no be quite getting it.


The problem you try to solve is already fixed: multisig. Can recommend Shamir Backup as well natively supported by the Trezor model T. You can split the seed in as many ‘shares’ as you like, while each share on its own is useless.

https://bitcoinelectrum.com/creating-a-multisig-wallet/
https://wiki.trezor.io/Shamir_backup
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a 24 word seed. on two bolts.


Splitting it only doubles your chance of losing it all by losing just one of them.



Indeed, people seem to no be quite getting it.

actually I get it just fine.

If I went this route I would have the two bolts sorted in two different bank safety deposit boxes.


The bolts are more of a back up for physical destruction safety of the  wallet.

For me at my age hodl for more then 10 years may happen but I would be 73 in ten years. With no kids so I would most likely want to spend the money so having it stashed in 1 safety box is not  what I want. If I have the two bolts spilt in two boxes it will take me more time to get to it.

So it forces me to hodl I would like to hodl till I am 73.

Hopefully, you are starting to spend before 73 and even before 10 years from now.

You seem to have been in BTC for at least for a couple exponential growth cycles, and sure maybe you screwed up a few times, but there is also ideas that you would rather spend your money before you die rather than having a bunch of money that you cannot spend or enjoy.

Have you ever thought about starting a 1% per quarter liquidation schedule, which should largely, allow your stash to hold its value, and if you are not ready to start a 1% per quarter liquidation now, then 10 years seem so long from now.. I would suggest starting something less than 10 years from now, but of course you are the best person to really know where you are at in terms of your BTC and your lifestyle and your other investment cashflow potentialities.

And, then once you start withdrawing.. are you just going to withdraw a lump sum or can't you just engage in incremental withdraws ... and gosh?  Spending over 10 years?  You expect to live to what?  83 years?  you have way more energy as a 63 year old than you are going to have in your post 73 years, no?  if you make it that long without any major issues, that is.
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if anyone has physical access to your bolt and nut...

...they would probably not realize its importance.
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