[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[jedimstr]

Whomever is mining on my node (see sig) with the address: 1PjuHEWbHvwhAwRzDTF8xMb5CZGNC4uhSi  or 1PjuHEWbHvwhAwRzDTF8xMB5CZGNC4uhSi, one of your worker addresses set on one of your miners has a typo ("B" is capital in one and "b" lowercase in the other).

Even worse, the miner with the capital "B" is returning 100% DOA.  You may want to fix that miner or remove it from service altogether.

[nreal]

So those antpool p2pool nodes are listed at http://p2pool-nodes.info/ too?

Stealing miners from p2pool?

[idonothave]

So those antpool p2pool nodes are listed at http://p2pool-nodes.info/ too?

Stealing miners from p2pool?

it is possible, because You cannot recognize it since the port is the same 9332 and also web-stat page is very probably the same (as they (AntPool) use the same open source project as a base for their changes). admins should find the way how to filter it
miner should be very carreful where he connects his machine, because is well known, that AntPool p2pool clone does not pay transaction fees to miners
the best possible and the safiest is to run own node with original sources from here https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool

[mdude77]

just add this line at the end of /config/cgminer.conf: "queue" : "1"
and if You want to set queue from shell use: /usr/bin/cgminer-api "setconfig|queue,1" (You can also let ssh do it remotely)
I did not find any difference between queue 0 and 1 in results and I do not use --lowmem

I'm guessing adding it to cgminer.conf would make the setting persistent across reboots? Definitely going to do that if so.

Files changed in /config are permanent across reboots. In the S5 there is a file /config/user_setting which has just

Code:

queue 8192

I'm not sure if the S4 is the same but if it is, that's all you need to modify, to say queue 1

user_settings doesn't exist on the S4.  There is a cgminer.conf there, but the queue setting is not there.  I may try adding it.

M

[idonothave]

just add this line at the end of /config/cgminer.conf: "queue" : "1"
and if You want to set queue from shell use: /usr/bin/cgminer-api "setconfig|queue,1" (You can also let ssh do it remotely)
I did not find any difference between queue 0 and 1 in results and I do not use --lowmem

I'm guessing adding it to cgminer.conf would make the setting persistent across reboots? Definitely going to do that if so.

Files changed in /config are permanent across reboots. In the S5 there is a file /config/user_setting which has just

Code:

queue 8192

I'm not sure if the S4 is the same but if it is, that's all you need to modify, to say queue 1

user_settings doesn't exist on the S4.  There is a cgminer.conf there, but the queue setting is not there.  I may try adding it.

M

root@antMiner:~# cat /config/cgminer.conf
{
"pools" : [
...
"bitmain-freq" : "7:200:0782",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725",
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "1"
}

[mdude77]

root@antMiner:~# cat /config/cgminer.conf
{
"pools" : [
...
"bitmain-freq" : "7:200:0782",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725",
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "1"
}

After the pools I have this:

Code:

,
"api-listen" : true,
"api-network" : true,
"api-allow" : "W:0/0",
"bitmain-freq" : "7:200:0782",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725"
}

I'll probably try adding the queue setting and see what happens.

M

[nreal]

So those antpool p2pool nodes are listed at http://p2pool-nodes.info/ too?

Stealing miners from p2pool?

it is possible, because You cannot recognize it since the port is the same 9332 and also web-stat page is very probably the same (as they (AntPool) use the same open source project as a base for their changes). admins should find the way how to filter it
miner should be very carreful where he connects his machine, because is well known, that AntPool p2pool clone does not pay transaction fees to miners
the best possible and the safiest is to run own node with original sources from here https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool

Do they antpool p2pool nodes get payments from p2pool blocks??

Hope they close down their nodes soon enough.

[PatMan]

Do they antpool p2pool nodes get payments from p2pool blocks??

Hope they close down their nodes soon enough.

No, as IYF mentioned, they don't use the standard p2pool share chain.

So do I. Sooner the better.

The way I see it, and please correct me someone if I'm wrong, but they are simply piggy backing off p2pool decentralization marketing, and by using the same ports as p2pool they are stealing/fooling miners into thinking that they are actually helping p2pool decentralization/network - when the opposite is in fact the case. As things are, they are harming the p2pool network.

What can be done? Well, short of every p2pool node banning the IP of antp2pool & pestering them to change their ports - not a lot  

Again, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[idonothave]

root@antMiner:~# cat /config/cgminer.conf
{
"pools" : [
...
"bitmain-freq" : "7:200:0782",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725",
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "1"
}

After the pools I have this:

Code:

,
"api-listen" : true,
"api-network" : true,
"api-allow" : "W:0/0",
"bitmain-freq" : "7:200:0782",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725"
}

I'll probably try adding the queue setting and see what happens.

M

You have to add it there manually use vi editor

[idonothave]

Do they antpool p2pool nodes get payments from p2pool blocks??

Hope they close down their nodes soon enough.

No, as IYF mentioned, they don't use the standard p2pool share chain.

So do I. Sooner the better.

The way I see it, and please correct me someone if I'm wrong, but they are simply piggy backing off p2pool decentralization marketing, and by using the same ports as p2pool they are stealing/fooling miners into thinking that they are actually helping p2pool decentralization/network - when the opposite is in fact the case. As things are, they are harming the p2pool network.

What can be done? Well, short of every p2pool node banning the IP of antp2pool & pestering them to change their ports - not a lot  

Again, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Y, it is big robbery.
What we can do?
We should be better, we should more popularize original p2pool, explain things, help newbies...

[jonnybravo0311]

Do they antpool p2pool nodes get payments from p2pool blocks??

Hope they close down their nodes soon enough.

No, as IYF mentioned, they don't use the standard p2pool share chain.

So do I. Sooner the better.

The way I see it, and please correct me someone if I'm wrong, but they are simply piggy backing off p2pool decentralization marketing, and by using the same ports as p2pool they are stealing/fooling miners into thinking that they are actually helping p2pool decentralization/network - when the opposite is in fact the case. As things are, they are harming the p2pool network.

What can be done? Well, short of every p2pool node banning the IP of antp2pool & pestering them to change their ports - not a lot  

Again, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

You're not wrong.  I spent some time going through their p2pool code when they released it.  All they did was add some reliance upon a database to capture/store worker/share info.  It wasn't complete and I don't know that they ever pursued it any further.  They certainly jumped on the decentralized bandwagon, but have done nothing except for talk about how they support it, while behind the scenes they aren't doing squat.  The last update to the code was on November, 13, 2014.

[mdude77]

root@antMiner:~# cat /config/cgminer.conf
{
"pools" : [
...
"bitmain-freq" : "7:200:0782",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725",
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "1"
}

After the pools I have this:

Code:

,
"api-listen" : true,
"api-network" : true,
"api-allow" : "W:0/0",
"bitmain-freq" : "7:200:0782",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725"
}

I'll probably try adding the queue setting and see what happens.

M

You have to add it there manually use vi editor

I added it.  Didn't do a thing.  Next time I changed the pools, it got lost.

M

[yslyung]

i'm ALL IN to help STOP dishonest pool.

Maybe someone with a good knowledge & higher stats/rep can start a thread so that we can create more awareness on the pool thread & also ask antpool to provide evidence to the public that they (which we all doubt) are legitimately proving as what they are saying/doing ?

I say NO to Cheats & Scams what about you guys ?

[idonothave]

root@antMiner:~# cat /config/cgminer.conf
{
"pools" : [
...
"bitmain-freq" : "7:200:0782",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725",
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "1"
}

After the pools I have this:

Code:

,
"api-listen" : true,
"api-network" : true,
"api-allow" : "W:0/0",
"bitmain-freq" : "7:200:0782",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0725"
}

I'll probably try adding the queue setting and see what happens.

M

You have to add it there manually use vi editor

I added it.  Didn't do a thing.  Next time I changed the pools, it got lost.

M

I did not try if it is lost if I push "save & apply", I do not use UI. I have just added it into cgminer.conf file, then I did "/etc/init.d/cgminer restart" and it works. And it is persistent accross reboots...

edit: as was mentioned above, I suppose this also could solve the thing: echo "queue 1" > /config/user_setting
but personaly I did not try it because of no need

[mdude77]

I did not try if it is lost if I push "save & apply", I do not use UI. I have just added it into cgminer.conf file, then I did "/etc/init.d/cgminer restart" and it works. And it is persistent accross reboots...

This is on your S4?

Sounds like we're doing about the same thing except I tweak my pool settings, causing settings to get lost.  So I use cgminer-api to set the queue setting.

M

[idonothave]

I did not try if it is lost if I push "save & apply", I do not use UI. I have just added it into cgminer.conf file, then I did "/etc/init.d/cgminer restart" and it works. And it is persistent accross reboots...

This is on your S4?

Sounds like we're doing about the same thing except I tweak my pool settings, causing settings to get lost.  So I use cgminer-api to set the queue setting.

M

Yes, my S4 unit. It seems any change of pool settings is changing file to defaults.

[Prelude]

just add this line at the end of /config/cgminer.conf: "queue" : "1"
and if You want to set queue from shell use: /usr/bin/cgminer-api "setconfig|queue,1" (You can also let ssh do it remotely)
I did not find any difference between queue 0 and 1 in results and I do not use --lowmem

I'm guessing adding it to cgminer.conf would make the setting persistent across reboots? Definitely going to do that if so.

Files changed in /config are permanent across reboots. In the S5 there is a file /config/user_setting which has just

Code:

queue 8192

I'm not sure if the S4 is the same but if it is, that's all you need to modify, to say queue 1

Ok thanks, good to know. You suggest setting queue to 1 instead of 0? I keep seeing people say queue 0 for p2pool, but if you say 1 is best that's what I'll set.

I don't mean to turn this thread into an S4 thread, but while you're here.. I noticed you compiled cgminer 4.9 for S5, any chance you'll do the same for the S4?

Yes. As far as I know it is persistent accross reboots.

Thanks again for bringing that up, you've just saved me a lot of annoyance. 

[windpath]

Thought you would all appreciate this:

Bitcoin: The magic of mining

http://www.economist.com/news/business/21638124-minting-digital-currency-has-become-big-ruthlessly-competitive-business-magic

[yslyung]

thx windpath for leading the post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855548.180

c'mon guys lets support the REAL p2pool & not the FAKE !

[IYFTech]

Do they antpool p2pool nodes get payments from p2pool blocks??

Hope they close down their nodes soon enough.

No, as IYF mentioned, they don't use the standard p2pool share chain.

So do I. Sooner the better.

The way I see it, and please correct me someone if I'm wrong, but they are simply piggy backing off p2pool decentralization marketing, and by using the same ports as p2pool they are stealing/fooling miners into thinking that they are actually helping p2pool decentralization/network - when the opposite is in fact the case. As things are, they are harming the p2pool network.

What can be done? Well, short of every p2pool node banning the IP of antp2pool & pestering them to change their ports - not a lot  

Again, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

You're not wrong.  I spent some time going through their p2pool code when they released it.  All they did was add some reliance upon a database to capture/store worker/share info.  It wasn't complete and I don't know that they ever pursued it any further.  They certainly jumped on the decentralized bandwagon, but have done nothing except for talk about how they support it, while behind the scenes they aren't doing squat.  The last update to the code was on November, 13, 2014.

+1000 to this!

I think it's about time the p2pool community put a little pressure on Bitmain "p2p" in an effort to sort this little misconception out once & for all. I see a few comments have been posted already........

I'm in