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[dmwardjr]

It seems that you already voted then.  Until I did, I only saw the poll.

Okay, thanks!!!

Wish I knew how I voted... LOL  My answer would be BTC

[pekatete]

I see we're down to 6.7Ph again - the extra 1.4Ph has hopped away.

Must be a very unhappy individual .... we never reached the staggering heights of a couple of weeks ago while he was around!
On a more positive note (and while he's away), let's hope our luck takes a turn for the better today (55% never looked good on any day!)

[sjc1490]

I predict BTC will be at $475.00 by October 30th...

$540.00 by Thanksgiving

I will take that bet, btc will not even be close to that.
 
I like your enthusiasm but you need to go to the S4 thread and read all the problems they are having. CK has confirmed it is a hardware problem and did a quick cgminer patch until Bitmain can come up with a firmware work a round which isn't really fixing the problem.

You need to consider the Prisma at 1.4 TH each much better deal and you will come closer to a ROI (noticed I said closer as there is no hardware that currently has a chance to ROI).

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

How about lets bet 0.1 BTC that BTC will be $510.00 by Thanksgiving?

I will take that bet. Anybody here care to witness?

That bet was intended for the two parties who were in the conversation [wasikidding and myself].  THAT BET was NOT for "ANYBODY and EVERYBODY IN THIS FORUM."  I'm not a damn BTC BOOKIE...    LOL  

DID I OFFER THAT BET TO EVERYONE?  HELL NO!!!  I"M NOT RICH AND I"M NOT A BTC BOOKIE

NOW WITNESS THAT...

Pay attention when you quote, you quoted me not waskidding.....

[dmwardjr]

I predict BTC will be at $475.00 by October 30th...

$540.00 by Thanksgiving

I will take that bet, btc will not even be close to that.
 
I like your enthusiasm but you need to go to the S4 thread and read all the problems they are having. CK has confirmed it is a hardware problem and did a quick cgminer patch until Bitmain can come up with a firmware work a round which isn't really fixing the problem.

You need to consider the Prisma at 1.4 TH each much better deal and you will come closer to a ROI (noticed I said closer as there is no hardware that currently has a chance to ROI).

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

How about lets bet 0.1 BTC that BTC will be $510.00 by Thanksgiving?

I will take that bet. Anybody here care to witness?

That bet was intended for the two parties who were in the conversation [wasikidding and myself].  THAT BET was NOT for "ANYBODY and EVERYBODY IN THIS FORUM."  I'm not a damn BTC BOOKIE...    LOL  

DID I OFFER THAT BET TO EVERYONE?  HELL NO!!!  I"M NOT RICH AND I"M NOT A BTC BOOKIE

NOW WITNESS THAT...

Pay attention when you quote, you quoted me not waskidding.....

IF it was you then bet is on...    agreed?  This bet is for US (you and I) and only us (you and I);  no one else.

The bet is 0.1 BTC - That BTC will reach $510.00 by midnight [2400 hours] Chicago Time (Central Standard Time) the end of Thursday, November 27, 2014.

[sjc1490]

IF it was you then bet is on...    agreed?  This bet is for US (you and I) and only us (you and I);  no one else.

I will definitely take the bet if want to, but if you mistakenly answered me instead of waskidding I will withdraw the offer, your call.

[dmwardjr]

IF it was you then bet is on...    agreed?  This bet is for US (you and I) and only us (you and I);  no one else.

I will definitely take the bet if want to, but if you mistakenly answered me instead of waskidding I will withdraw the offer, your call.

I see now it was you and not waskidding.  Didn't realize you joined the conversation.  It doesn't matter whether it was you or waskidding.

You and I know NOW who was chatting.  So, this bet is only for you (sjc1490) and I (dmwardjr) and NO ONE ELSE.

So, we agree to the bet?

I do.

0.1 BTC is the amount of the bet.

The Bet is the following:  That BTC will be $510.00 US on STAMP EXCHANGE BY 2400 HOURS CHICAGO TIME (CST) THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27.

AGREED?

[sjc1490]

IF it was you then bet is on...    agreed?  This bet is for US (you and I) and only us (you and I);  no one else.

I will definitely take the bet if want to, but if you mistakenly answered me instead of waskidding I will withdraw the offer, your call.

I see now it was you and not waskidding.  Didn't realize you joined the conversation.  It doesn't matter whether it was you or waskidding.

You and I know NOW who was chatting.  So, this bet is only for you and I and NO ONE ELSE.

So, we agree to the bet?

I do.

0.1 BTC is the amount of the bet.

The Bet is the following:  That BTC will be $510.00 US on STAMP EXCHANGE BY 2400 HOURS CHICAGO TIME (CST) THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27.

AGREED?

Agreed, I am saying it will not be $510 and you are saying it will. Damn I hope you actually win this bet.

If I do win, donate the .1 to Sean's Outpost @ 1M72Sfpbz1BPpXFHz9m3CdqATR44Jvaydd

[dmwardjr]

Have you not watched the news very much lately on line? 

There is a BIG STORM BREWING for a lot of BIG PLAYERS to buy into BTC in anticipation for different things I'm not willing to mention for the sake of the bet.  Also, for the sake of keeping others from mining or increasing their hashing power once they see how much BTC will be going up.  It's going to the moon very soon.  Seriously!

[dmwardjr]

IF it was you then bet is on...    agreed?  This bet is for US (you and I) and only us (you and I);  no one else.

I will definitely take the bet if want to, but if you mistakenly answered me instead of waskidding I will withdraw the offer, your call.

I see now it was you and not waskidding.  Didn't realize you joined the conversation.  It doesn't matter whether it was you or waskidding.

You and I know NOW who was chatting.  So, this bet is only for you and I and NO ONE ELSE.

So, we agree to the bet?

I do.

0.1 BTC is the amount of the bet.

The Bet is the following:  That BTC will be $510.00 US on STAMP EXCHANGE BY 2400 HOURS CHICAGO TIME (CST) THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27.

AGREED?

Agreed, I am saying it will not be $510 and you are saying it will. Damn I hope you actually win this bet.

If I do win, donate the .1 to Sean's Outpost @ 1M72Sfpbz1BPpXFHz9m3CdqATR44Jvaydd

WILL DO.  I"M A MAN OF MY WORD.  YOU CAN COUNT ON IT!

[dmwardjr]

Have you not watched the news very much lately on line?  

There is a BIG STORM BREWING for a lot of BIG PLAYERS to buy into BTC in anticipation for different things I'm not willing to mention for the sake of the bet.  Also, for the sake of keeping others from mining or increasing their hashing power once they see how much BTC will be going up.  It's going to the moon very soon.  Seriously!

It has gone from $300.00 to $377.00 since Sunday evening!

I read a lot of news and a LOT of chat from very smart speculators in the BTC game.

A SERIOUS STORM IS BREWING!!!  

I KNOW WE WILL BE AT LEAST $470 BY END OF THANKSGIVING BUT I'M OBVIOUSLY BETTING ON IT BEING $510.00.

WE BOTH WIN EITHER WAY FROM OUR MINING FARMS.  THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT...

ALSO, PLEASE DON'T THINK WE ARE ARGUING OR GETTING INTO A HEATED DISCUSSION.  WE CANNOT SEE EACH OTHERS FACE OR DISPOSITION.  THIS IS A GENTLEMAN'S BET BETWEEN RESPECTFUL INDIVIDUALS.

I PLAY TEXAS NO LIMIT HOLDEM QUITE A BIT.  IT TOO IS A GENTLEMAN'S GAME...

[dmwardjr]

IF it was you then bet is on...    agreed?  This bet is for US (you and I) and only us (you and I);  no one else.

I will definitely take the bet if want to, but if you mistakenly answered me instead of waskidding I will withdraw the offer, your call.

I see now it was you and not waskidding.  Didn't realize you joined the conversation.  It doesn't matter whether it was you or waskidding.

You and I know NOW who was chatting.  So, this bet is only for you and I and NO ONE ELSE.

So, we agree to the bet?

I do.

0.1 BTC is the amount of the bet.

The Bet is the following:  That BTC will be $510.00 US on STAMP EXCHANGE BY 2400 HOURS CHICAGO TIME (CST) THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27.

AGREED?

Agreed, I am saying it will not be $510 and you are saying it will. Damn I hope you actually win this bet.

If I do win, donate the .1 to Sean's Outpost @ 1M72Sfpbz1BPpXFHz9m3CdqATR44Jvaydd

I WILL REMEMBER PAGE 954 OF THIS FORUM.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!

[sjc1490]

I hope you are right, I just don't see it. The whales will sell off to buy back at a depressed price before it can get that high. We have gotten into a cycle of that happening recently.

[sjc1490]

I WILL REMEMBER PAGE 954 OF THIS FORUM.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!

Thanks, I have created a outlook reminder, good luck to you also.

[dmwardjr]

I hope you are right, I just don't see it. The whales will sell off to buy back at a depressed price before it can get that high. We have gotten into a cycle of that happening recently.

YES, but not TOO depressed.  The price will fall back no more than 4% of each pump.  The whales would be hurting themselves if they did not DO THE PUMP without actually PUMPING.

For instance, When it was pumped up from $300.00 to $335.00, it fell back to a more SUPPORTED $330.00 because THEIR ACTUALLY IS "SUPPORT" (BELIEF IT IS WORTH THAT AND MUCH MORE).

THEN, it gets pumped again from $330 to $359 then fell back to $350 [A more supported or stable price].

NOW, we have another pump going on  AS WE SPEAK to $387 at the moment!

WE HAVE LOTS OF SUPPORT FOR A BIG PRICE FOR BTC!  TRUST ME!!!

THIS PUMP HAS LOTS OF SUPPORT.  COMPARE THE TWO MOUNTAINS FACING ONE ANOTHER ON THE ORDER BOOKS AT STAMP.  LOTS OF BUYERS THEIR FOR SUPPORT.   LOTS

IT WILL STAY THAT WAY TILL $440 I KNOW.  THEN IT WILL CHILL 5 to 9 DAYS AND GO UP AGAIN IN THE NORMAL PUMPS AS I MENTIONED.

LOTS OF SUPPORT OUT THERE.  LOTS

[dmwardjr]

I hope you are right, I just don't see it. The whales will sell off to buy back at a depressed price before it can get that high. We have gotten into a cycle of that happening recently.

YES, but not TOO depressed.  The price will fall back no more than 4% of each pump.  The whales would be hurting themselves if they did not DO THE PUMP without actually PUMPING.

For instance, When it was pumped up from $300.00 to $335.00, it fell back to a more SUPPORTED $330.00 because THEIR ACTUALLY IS "SUPPORT" (BELIEF IT IS WORTH THAT AND MUCH MORE).

THEN, it gets pumped again from $330 to $359 then fell back to $350 [A more supported or stable price].

NOW, we have another pump going on  AS WE SPEAK to $387 at the moment!

WE HAVE LOTS OF SUPPORT FOR A BIG PRICE FOR BTC!  TRUST ME!!!

THIS PUMP HAS LOTS OF SUPPORT.  COMPARE THE TWO MOUNTAINS FACING ONE ANOTHER ON THE ORDER BOOKS AT STAMP.  LOTS OF BUYERS THEIR FOR SUPPORT.   LOTS

IT WILL STAY THAT WAY TILL $440 I KNOW.  THEN IT WILL CHILL 5 to 9 DAYS AND GO UP AGAIN IN THE NORMAL PUMPS AS I MENTIONED.

LOTS OF SUPPORT OUT THERE.  LOTS

We will have a LOT of BTC sold off this weekend, which will bring the price back down a little.  However, it will go back up again after the dump.

The dumps we have on the weekends have to do with a lot of big farms who need the cash to pay employees, for power, etc...  

Right now is not a bad time at all to get involved with an exchange, even if it is a small amount.  When you do, look for the BIG "Sell" wall on the weekend and sell into that wall.  Wait for the price to go down at least 15% if not 20% [That's where you buy to accumulate more coin].  Then just wait for the price to go back up [with a bottle of champagne in hand] cause WE HAVE PLENTY OF SUPPORT!

[dmwardjr]

0.01659688 BTC is estimated reward at the moment with Total average hash rate in last 60 minutes: 4594.350 Ghash/s using 10 S3's.
Approx. cluster performance (30 min average):   6833839 Ghash/s

All S3's are over clocked just a hair from the default (225 Mhz) to the next step up (231 Mhz).

[dmwardjr]

I'm on a mission at the moment to just focus on mining and building the farm from 4.6 TH/s to 24 TH/s ASAP.  Hope to have it to 24 TH/s (16,500 watts) by end of December to end of January.

Which means I'm not using any BTC on the exchange at the moment.  I probably should though.

[dmwardjr]

Not sure if any of you saw the 22,000 WALL on BITSTAMP's order book Sunday when BTC dropped from $337.00 US to $300.00.  We have a small wall of just under 4,000 but no where near 22,000.  LOTS OF STABILITY!!!

[Billbags]

Hey bobsav, it's time to turn those miners back on  Or was that you who brought us from 70 to 80 ?

[dkaufman]

Hi,
I need to set higher difficulty for my miners. How can I do that? Now I have diff from 1,4k-1,8k and need about 2k.
Thx.

What software are you using?  Could be possible to do in the firmware or possibly on the workers page in Slush's Pool Settings

I am using Antminer S4 devices. How it is possible to change diff on Slush Pool? I can not find this setting.

The pool sets the difficulty.  The facility to set it manually on the workers page was removed a good while ago when the auto setting was implemented.  Why would you wish to set it higher, other than to reduce your bandwidth?

Because there is a problem with the S4's never getting up to anywhere near their 2TH capability on a pool unless that pool lets them set the minimum difficulty to 2048.  I don't pretend to understand it... something about an underpowered controller board and a death spiral dance it does with vardiff.  But the the upshot is I can't point my S4 at slush's pool unless they bring back some way of specifying my per-worker minimum difficulty setting :-(

And I just had a very sad few days at BTC Guild... now i have to try GHash -- I would just like to keep ALL my terahashes here at the Slushiest Pool of Them All :-)

This guys can explain it better (a coupla quotes from the Antminer S4 topic):

I'm a little confused tbh, as ck says:

It turns out the controller is so low powered that it can only process ~30 shares per second which mean that unless diff is set higher, they work their way into a death spiral before diff catches up. Great...

Which to me sounds like a hardware issue - or is it the firmware that decides how much power is provided to the controller?

It's not a firmware issue. The controller hardware they bundle with it is not fast enough to handle running at low diffs, and most pools start at a lower diff for a while before vardiff pushes them up. If they stay low diff long enough the controller never catches up. I gave them a driver code workaround (i.e. hack) to get over this hurdle. It means they'll (appear to) run at low hashrates for a while until the pool reaches a diff suitable for the device. When they say it's a firmware issue, they mean they'll offer new firmware with an updated cgminer to address the issue.

It turns out the controller is so low powered that it can only process ~30 shares per second which mean that unless diff is set higher, they work their way into a death spiral before diff catches up. Great...

(quoted from another thread)


Is this a problem if one is using an S4 with solo.ckpool.org?

No. S4s work fine here.

I did a buy on the S4's and their hashrate locally is 2th/s or greater (awesome!) however, when connected to BTCGuild NONE of them show anywhere close to 2 Th/s.  They show more like 200 Gh/s.  I have 2 that are over 1 Th/s, but the rest between 0 - 278 GH/s.  WTF Bitmain?

The fix for now is to use GHash or BTCGuild with 2048 difficulty. Pools with vardiff seem to overload the miners at the start when spamming them with difficulty 16 shares. A new firmware is on the way soon^TM.

Not quite. Rapidly adapting vardiffs also do fine as the ckpool based pools do, but yes they'll hopefully bring out new firmware with the changes I gave them.