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January 31, 2018, 01:00:56 PM
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Merit works GREAT:

Here is one at the top of your list, I can see why he got a merit, he likes pizza!:

That's a moment of Bitcoin history. We wouldn't be where we are today without people like Laszlo actually exchanging it for goods and services. The merit system is doing a great job at highlighting posts like this.

At current exchange rates, Laszlo paid the equivalent of well over a hundred million dollars (100000000 USD/$) for his pizzas.  I think he deserves some merit.  (Though not enough to give him any myself, when he’s been inactive almost four years.)

The Merit system has dual purposes. Not only to prevent spammers ranking up but to also highlight content that is worth reading. The system is very successful in both so far.

Indeed, one is necessary for the other.  One can’t tend a garden by only throwing down weed killer, without also nurturing desirable plants to take over the soil.

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January 31, 2018, 01:09:02 PM
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Merit works GREAT:

Here is one at the top of your list, I can see why he got a merit, he likes pizza!:

That's a moment of Bitcoin history. We wouldn't be where we are today without people like Laszlo actually exchanging it for goods and services. The merit system is doing a great job at highlighting posts like this. Another example is the HODL thread. I've come across Hero Members here who had no idea where that meme came from and they have now learned something.

The Merit system has dual purposes. Not only to prevent spammers ranking up but to also highlight content that is worth reading. The system is very successful in both so far.


I love it! 

Laszlo now has 30 merits including 12 from one person!
I going to add one more.

Fine system.

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January 31, 2018, 01:11:43 PM
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Merit works GREAT:

Here is one at the top of your list, I can see why he got a merit, he likes pizza!:

That's a moment of Bitcoin history. We wouldn't be where we are today without people like Laszlo actually exchanging it for goods and services. The merit system is doing a great job at highlighting posts like this.

At current exchange rates, Laszlo paid the equivalent of well over a hundred million dollars (100000000 USD/$) for his pizzas.  I think he deserves some merit.  (Though not enough to give him any myself, when he’s been inactive almost four years.)

The Merit system has dual purposes. Not only to prevent spammers ranking up but to also highlight content that is worth reading. The system is very successful in both so far.

Indeed, one is necessary for the other.  One can’t tend a garden by only throwing down weed killer, without also nurturing desirable plants to take over the soil.

And yes, 31 merit for a post 8 years old.

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January 31, 2018, 01:17:37 PM
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At current exchange rates, Laszlo paid the equivalent of well over a hundred million dollars (100000000 USD/$) for his pizzas.  I think he deserves some merit.  (Though not enough to give him any myself, when he’s been inactive almost four years.)
And yes, 31 merit for a post 8 years old.

Make that 37 merits.  Some others must have added since you last checked; and I just did, myself.  I’m in an expansive mood—and hungry.

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January 31, 2018, 01:19:26 PM
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Today was supposed to be HIRO! But apparently not fate with this meirite!

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January 31, 2018, 01:20:49 PM
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Hmm..

Laszlo, with a dead account is now up to 38 merit.

I am now announcing my services as a BMG (Bitcointalk Merit Generator), for a fee, I will will advise on how to increase your merit score.


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January 31, 2018, 01:21:05 PM
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And yes, 31 merit for a post 8 years old.

Better make that 32 as I just gave it one. I'm actually disappointed it hasn't got more. People need to understand that the early adopters that actually started exchanging Bitcoin for goods and services are the ones that made a reality out of Satoshis dream. Bitcoin would literally have had no value if it wasn't for them using it as a currency. The more people that question why that thread is attracting merits and are smart enough to understand the explanation the better.

Edit: at least 38 now. I think people following this thread might have also seen your post and decided it needed to be highlighted more.

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January 31, 2018, 01:23:03 PM
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I like that post on many levels.

It has just helped me launch my new career.

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January 31, 2018, 01:25:24 PM
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Today was supposed to be HIRO! But apparently not fate with this meirite!

This post exemplifies one reason why we need the merit system.

+0.  Write better posts if you want to rank up.

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January 31, 2018, 01:34:25 PM
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Quin, my service works so well, I even managed to get you 2 more merits.

Seriously though, given that there is dollar value in ranking up, this system WILL be gamed by people 'selling' their merits, shilling with fake accounts, gathering circular groups to self merit, etc.

I understand the reason behind it (Reddit Karma), but it will need heavy policing.

Last post, Got to go to work......



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January 31, 2018, 01:40:04 PM
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I think people following this thread might have also seen your post and decided it needed to be highlighted more.

Attention, everybody following this thread:

Prior to my giving merit for Laszlo’s famous pizza post, the oldest post to which I’d assigned merit was this 2014 explanation by gmaxwell on the problems with DHTs which once upon a time much educated me.

I had been intending at some point to comb through my bookmarks to many such excellent posts from the past—the quality of posts I wish I could now experience.  The archive of this forum contains a hidden library of invaluable information—a record of dialogues involving the brilliant minds who took Satoshi’s client and shaped it into the global financial networking bedrock which today holds value equivalent to hundreds of billions of dollars.  Reading those posts teaches both Bitcoin history and Bitcoin technology.  We can bring all that to the surface, and perhaps even slowly revive the forum to those glory days!

If we desire to highlight good posts from the past, could we please also start giving merit to the deep technical discussions by Core developers?

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January 31, 2018, 01:41:55 PM
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Quin, my service works so well, I even managed to get you 2 more merits.

Seriously though, given that there is dollar value in ranking up, this system WILL be gamed by people 'selling' their merits, shilling with fake accounts, gathering circular groups to self merit, etc.

I understand the reason behind it (Reddit Karma), but it will need heavy policing.

Last post, Got to go to work......

People will try to game any system invented. This one will be quite hard to game after all the airdrop sMerit is used up. Anyway, it's a big improvement on the previous system of spamming your way to Legendary status.

I really don't care about ranking up or even the small bit of BTC I make from my signature. I got involved and bought my HODL stash in 2012 & 13. The only benefit to me of getting those 2 more merits is I now have another sMerit to give to a post I like.

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January 31, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
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Hmm..

Laszlo, with a dead account is now up to 38 merit.

I am now announcing my services as a BMG (Bicointalk Merit Generator), for a fee, I will will advise on how to increase your merit score.



lol Let me be your first advisee Smiley
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January 31, 2018, 02:37:23 PM
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every day more and more people comes to blockchain ecosystem
This phrase-a-rooni is a hallmark of fine shitposting.  A staple, if you will.  I don't know what it is, but you can pick out the people who are on bitcointalk solely to choke the bitcoin chicken by looking for variations of the above words.  Damn straight it's a garbled mess by someone who knows just enough English to be fucking annoying.  Sorry, bud.

That whole post is a great example of how a gigantic brick wall of text is not equivalent to a well-thought out and written post.  Quantity isn't necessarily equal to quality, in other words, and it's a concept that seems to elude most of Asia and eastern Europe.
You are speaking nonsense mumbo jumbo.
Mmmm-hmmmm.
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Explanatacations are of no cost here, keep them comming sir.
Yes, English is not my native language, but it doesn't give you any right to judge me or call my my posts shit.
And if you do this, then I can assume that you have a shit in your head, many shit, and you want to through out it to another people, but we don't need your shit. Just eat it by yourself.
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January 31, 2018, 02:58:18 PM
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Yes, English is not my native language, but it doesn't give you any right to judge me or call my my posts shit.
And if you do this, then I can assume that you have a shit in your head, many shit, and you want to through out it to another people, but we don't need your shit. Just eat it by yourself.

Another exemplary object lesson on why we don’t need the merits system:  Posts like this are excellent!

No, wait—sorry, I got that backwards.  Posts like this are garbage.  This is exactly why we needs the merits system.

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January 31, 2018, 03:24:23 PM
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Today was supposed to be HIRO! But apparently not fate with this meirite!

Yeah, new system really screwed you man; i'd be pissed if i was that close.. you're taking better than i would be lol

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Really glad this was implemented. So much spam these days. Asian users are creating several 100 users each. Big farms just to level up users here. That will stop now.
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January 31, 2018, 04:03:52 PM
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Do not beg for merit excessively.

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s/excessively/at all—ever/

The merit system is a promising idea.  But it will only work if we develop a strong cultural expectation that merit will only be awarded for meritorious posts.  Requests for merit must be declared extreme rudeness, a forum faux pas.  Such a thing is fit only for social opprobrium, derision, sneers, and shunning.

In most cultures, fishing for compliments is viewed as something between boorish and unthinkable.  Asking for merit is worse, because it may accrue monetary value due to signature campaigns.  It is like begging a professor for a top grade, instead of doing work worthy of earning a top grade.

By contrast, those who have something worthwhile to say will take pride in earning merit the normal way:  By making posts which others find valuable.  Whereas those who have nothing worthwhile to say, as such have nothing to add to the forum.

For my part:  Nobody who ever asks me for merit will ever get any from me—period.


P.S., all the whiners complaining about the merit system ipso facto thus demonstrate that they are incapable of writing meritorious posts, and therefore worthless to the forum.  Make good posts, and people will notice.  Or shut up.


Edit:  Added the paragraph about people taking pride in earning merit the normal way.

+1 sM because I love your command of the English language. I even learnt something.

PS: Due to all the excitement, I'm not sure if that's the first time I doled sM due to actually liking the post's content where most, if not all, of previous sM allocations were gifted for humor et al. purposes.

Aside: There are no asides.

Edit: Reserved for edits.

Calvo turpuis est nihil comato: Practicing my Latin while eating my Reuben in case I ever meetup with CBH again.

Testing my Latin: Cogito, ergo sum dignum merito.

Well that worked out swell. I receive +1 sM from a user on record in stating that none would be doled out to beggars which is exactly what I did, albeit in Latin [and tongue in cheek] with "Cogito, ergo sum dignum merito." Next stop: Klingon.  Grin Grin Grin

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January 31, 2018, 04:24:34 PM
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Do not beg for merit excessively.

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s/excessively/at all—ever/

The merit system is a promising idea.  But it will only work if we develop a strong cultural expectation that merit will only be awarded for meritorious posts.  Requests for merit must be declared extreme rudeness, a forum faux pas.  Such a thing is fit only for social opprobrium, derision, sneers, and shunning.

In most cultures, fishing for compliments is viewed as something between boorish and unthinkable.  Asking for merit is worse, because it may accrue monetary value due to signature campaigns.  It is like begging a professor for a top grade, instead of doing work worthy of earning a top grade.

By contrast, those who have something worthwhile to say will take pride in earning merit the normal way:  By making posts which others find valuable.  Whereas those who have nothing worthwhile to say, as such have nothing to add to the forum.

For my part:  Nobody who ever asks me for merit will ever get any from me—period.


P.S., all the whiners complaining about the merit system ipso facto thus demonstrate that they are incapable of writing meritorious posts, and therefore worthless to the forum.  Make good posts, and people will notice.  Or shut up.


Edit:  Added the paragraph about people taking pride in earning merit the normal way.

+1 sM because I love your command of the English language. I even learnt something.

PS: Due to all the excitement, I'm not sure if that's the first time I doled sM due to actually liking the post's content where most, if not all, of previous sM allocations were gifted for humor et al. purposes.

Aside: There are no asides.

Edit: Reserved for edits.

Calvo turpuis est nihil comato: Practicing my Latin while eating my Reuben in case I ever meetup with CBH again.

Testing my Latin: Cogito, ergo sum dignum merito.

Well that worked out swell. I receive +1 sM from a user on record in stating that none would be doled out to beggars which is exactly what I did, albeit in Latin [and tongue in cheek] with "Cogito, ergo sum dignum merito." Next stop: Klingon.  Grin Grin Grin

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CBH just gave you merit. Unfortunately, his merit is invisible so it won’t do a damn thing for you.

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January 31, 2018, 04:38:18 PM
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Today was supposed to be HIRO! But apparently not fate with this meirite!
I was supposed to be LUGENDARY 6 months ago! But apparently not fate with this activite!

Another exemplary object lesson on why we don’t need the merits system: Posts like this are excellent!
No, wait—sorry, I got that backwards. Posts like this are garbage. This is exactly why we needs the merits system.
I like your humor. Not enough to give merit for that, but enough to point it out.
That made me chuckle, thanks for that.


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