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February 03, 2018, 01:04:27 AM
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For the past one hour, I've been checking the merit points sent and received by various members. To sum it up, it's more on a popularity contest. The more famous you are, the more merits you'll have. But what about the notorious ones? I wonder if Trump has been a member here and would he ever get a merit.

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February 03, 2018, 01:29:24 AM
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For the past one hour, I've been checking the merit points sent and received by various members. To sum it up, it's more on a popularity contest. The more famous you are, the more merits you'll have.
You're forgetting why certain members are more popular than others. Usually, it's because they have something worthwhile to say, so of course they'll get more merits. An unknown newbie with something worthwhile to say will also receive merits, and they may even become popular, given time.

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February 03, 2018, 01:34:31 AM
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For the past one hour, I've been checking the merit points sent and received by various members. To sum it up, it's more on a popularity contest. The more famous you are, the more merits you'll have.
You're forgetting why certain members are more popular than others. Usually, it's because they have something worthwhile to say, so of course they'll get more merits. An unknown newbie with something worthwhile to say will also receive merits, and they may even become popular, given time.
Yeah exactly. OP, way to miss the correlation there. Also, many 'popular' members have made their merit giving criteria public, and follow that.
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February 03, 2018, 01:38:40 AM
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How can a system be so unfair to people who needed one week for the next rank? This is extremely disappointing, I haven't received a single merit for helping quality posts in a whole week.

The people who are supposed to be slowed by this system simply go to a merit brigading channel and merit each other.

That would be some irony right there lol.. the scammers/spammers/trolls etc. who the Merit system is designed to punish find ways to cheat the system and level up. While the legit members who the Merit system is designed to aid get next to no Merit due to scarcity and lack of desire to Merit.

It may work out this way, but who knows.. is early days lol


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February 03, 2018, 01:42:32 AM
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How can a system be so unfair to people who needed one week for the next rank? This is extremely disappointing, I haven't received a single merit for helping quality posts in a whole week.

The people who are supposed to be slowed by this system simply go to a merit brigading channel and merit each other.

That would be some irony right there lol.. the scammers/spammers/trolls etc. who the Merit system is designed to punish find ways to cheat the system and level up. While the legit members who the Merit system is designed to aid get next to no Merit due to scarcity and lack of desire to Merit.

It may work out this way, but who knows.. is early days lol




my thoughts exactly..
people will always scam, now accounts just cost more to buy and people will do the same thing

and the members who are legit get negative results, funny how it works
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February 03, 2018, 02:36:34 AM
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Why people always forget this is a forum and place to communicate with other participants, but not a rank-obsessed rpg. Just try to leave behind all these badges and enjoy your time here.

PM me in 3 weeks please bud. Given you one for now as I think you have potential to level up and I am pretty sure you are not a pajeet farmer

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February 03, 2018, 02:59:19 AM
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This new protocol of Merit system is really great in order to gain good quality post and to control spammers nor scammers or unwanted activities here in the forum!
But i guess, this can be simply be bypassed by trading such as buying or by any means of irresistible offers made in a private way in or outside the forum imo!
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February 03, 2018, 02:59:37 AM
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How can a system be so unfair to people who needed one week for the next rank? This is extremely disappointing, I haven't received a single merit for helping quality posts in a whole week.

The people who are supposed to be slowed by this system simply go to a merit brigading channel and merit each other.

That would be some irony right there lol.. the scammers/spammers/trolls etc. who the Merit system is designed to punish find ways to cheat the system and level up. While the legit members who the Merit system is designed to aid get next to no Merit due to scarcity and lack of desire to Merit.

It may work out this way, but who knows.. is early days lol




my thoughts exactly..
people will always scam, now accounts just cost more to buy and people will do the same thing

and the members who are legit get negative results, funny how it works

It's always interesting to come here and read the points brought up here.

I echo a lot of the sentiments here too.  Frankly, I also think the structure of the merit system, the implementation and rollout of the merit system could have been done better.

However, I also think the administrators/moderators of this forum has a tough task here. Bitcointalk has grown to be much much bigger than just a forum, and as pointed out, all sorts of members are here, including those who look for creative means to get around whatever system is in place. It's an unenviable task. But I do believe the admins' intention to any new system is noble and that they really want to ensure this is a healthy forum for everyone.  This system has not even been in place for a month...I'm sure they're observing even as we post more inputs.


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February 03, 2018, 03:02:35 AM
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This new protocol of Merit system is really great in order to gain good quality post and to control spammers nor scammers or unwanted activities here in the forum!
But i guess, this can be simply be bypassed by trading such as buying or by any means of irresistible offers made in a private way in or outside the forum imo!
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I dont know way to get more merit?? _anyone help me!!
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February 03, 2018, 03:20:05 AM
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This new protocol of Merit system is really great in order to gain good quality post and to control spammers nor scammers or unwanted activities here in the forum!
But i guess, this can be simply be bypassed by trading such as buying or by any means of irresistible offers made in a private way in or outside the forum imo!
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I dont know way to get more merit?? _anyone help me!!
No...You, like every other under-dog member, are fucked...
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February 03, 2018, 03:20:40 AM
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This new protocol of Merit system is really great in order to gain good quality post and to control spammers nor scammers or unwanted activities here in the forum!
But i guess, this can be simply be bypassed by trading such as buying or by any means of irresistible offers made in a private way in or outside the forum imo!
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I dont know way to get more merit?? _anyone help me!!

You young man are a pajeet shitposter.. anyone giving you merit will be accused of merit trading. If I were you I would go and invest some time and money in English lessons and come back in 6 months..

This system was implemented to stop the likes of you levelling up, so either invest time, effort and money in improving your language skills or fuck off to bitcoin.com

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February 03, 2018, 03:46:41 AM
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That would be some irony right there lol.. the scammers/spammers/trolls etc. who the Merit system is designed to punish find ways to cheat the system and level up. While the legit members who the Merit system is designed to aid get next to no Merit due to scarcity and lack of desire to Merit.

It may work out this way, but who knows.. is early days lol

Well, so far all the posts I've read that had me thinking 'fuck me, that's worthless shit and I resent having my time and pixels squandered' were all written by people with no fresh merit.

I think it's going to do the job very well once it's a bit slicker.

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February 03, 2018, 04:43:50 AM
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No...You, like every other under-dog member, are fucked...
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Great example of a garbage shitpost that I would've tagged only a couple of weeks ago.  And now I don't have to do it because the merit system is in place, which almost ensures that idiots who can't speak a lick of English won't advance here on bitcointalk.  It's deliciously satisfying, and I must say it is still bringing a smile to my face. 

Are you fucked?  Yes.  And I would also suggest that if that's how you view things, you're here for all the wrong reasons.  If you came to bitcointalk because you enjoyed posting--and reading posts--the difficulty of getting merit points wouldn't bother you in the least.  The only people it bothers are the gibbering ape-beings who are here to crank out shitposts as fast as they can, with absolutely zero thought involved in their creation (see above post by Godwans). 

There are going to be people who buy merit, and those who trade it between alt accounts, but overall I think it's going to slow down the process of account farming and dis-incentivize shitposting to a large degree.  I can already see the fruits of the system being picked.

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February 03, 2018, 05:25:29 AM
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Why people always forget this is a forum and place to communicate with other participants, but not a rank-obsessed rpg. Just try to leave behind all these badges and enjoy your time here.

Most people here are influenced by a large sum of money that's why the old forum, MILLIONS to, BILLIONS of dollars has been running here from the ALTCOIN sections, to the real world and vice versa. The higher you rank, the more money you will get into a campaign. And that's an elementary rule, sadly I rarely see someone replying to your comment, or I'm always having a weird feeling that they are always avoiding a conversation. Remember when they had a puzzle here, and everyone is enjoying the game, some are scratching their head and some are enjoying the ride, some are doing snacks and everyone is happy?

And this line: "Just try to leave behind all these badges and enjoy your time here." makes me happy that there are still someone who are thinking this way.

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February 03, 2018, 06:45:04 AM
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Newbie here:

Are my post corresponding to my numbers of  my post? my post does not always equates to my # of activities

Are all post are valid? Can i post promotional coin or any referral link?


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February 03, 2018, 06:56:11 AM
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After i run my thread about "How Do You Feel About Merit System?" for 2 weeks up till now, i got my data to make some infographic and statistic, thanks to all the voters.
And i made some abbreviation for MERIT, LOL.



I make this statistic because i just want to know about the feelings of member, not for taking down the merit system, in fact, i love the system.
In the yellow box, i highlight things that is crucial after merit system applied, which are :
1. Feelings' of the members of this forum
2. Will this system make someone who is new give up on the forum (can be read as does people still want to join bct forum after there is a merit system)

Feel free to discuss here if you guys want , and if you want to vote again, i will unlock my vote so you guys can vote again, you can find my thread here (or if you want to discuss it there) :

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February 03, 2018, 08:09:16 AM
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because this forum is filled by spammers/botters that live with bitcointalk incomes.
this is the huge problem.
but we can't beat them with Merit system.
So what solution do you propose?

i like the KYC idea so youre bound to one account, no multiple accounts
and activity only raises if you do a certain number of characters typing per week


Seriously? This would cause far more crying from people than a merit system. Who the hell is going to send in personal documents just to be able to post on a message board? This board isn't a financial institution and isn't going to apply strict KYC laws just so people can have an account here. Besides, how strict would the verification be? People will just offer services for forged documents and it's very easy to just photoshop the details and people already pop up from time to time offering such services.

so what i just post and try to help posters every single day and hope i get 1 merit a day max.... nice that 150 merit now will take 3-8 months if i try every single day on this forum..... when i was literally 2 weeks away lol

You are the type of poster the merit system is designed to prohibit. Just look at the quality of your posts before the merit system was introduced. All trash posts that you would easily get paid for and can rank up over time just by bothering to log in to post whatever you could be bothered to do. People shouldn't be allowed to join this forum with as many accounts as they like, post utter rubbish and get paid for it and this mentality has to chnage.

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February 03, 2018, 08:41:44 AM
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Why people always forget this is a forum and place to communicate with other participants, but not a rank-obsessed rpg. Just try to leave behind all these badges and enjoy your time here.

PM me in 3 weeks please bud. Given you one for now as I think you have potential to level up and I am pretty sure you are not a pajeet farmer


We all are diehard bitcoin fans.  Does merit or ranks change that?  Does someone with 500 merit will  be more closely following the block chain principles than those with 100 merits?

We will  see in due course of time with matrix about spam controls on these threads and  what other communities think about bitcoin talk as whole ecosystem. 
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February 03, 2018, 08:45:15 AM
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Instead of posting you 100% agree, you should have given me 100 merit.
You can only give 50 merit to a user in a 30 day window.
Unless they have an alt account, they cannot give you 100 merit (right now).

Press your middle mouse button when trying to open a link to open it in a new window. Problem solved. Now you should have given me 200 merit.
Same problem, 4 alt accounts?

Dear sir we should be more generous to give merit , strong account gives merit to another strong account. I have tried to post quality content 3 times which consume 1 day (research included) , people are getting merit with small post , may be for visibility. But weak account post tends to be less visible to those people having sMerit.  Now I am suffering to get 1 merit point , if I understand that process may be I will try in that way , give me your suggestion.
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February 03, 2018, 08:50:34 AM
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Instead of posting you 100% agree, you should have given me 100 merit.
You can only give 50 merit to a user in a 30 day window.
Unless they have an alt account, they cannot give you 100 merit (right now).

Press your middle mouse button when trying to open a link to open it in a new window. Problem solved. Now you should have given me 200 merit.
Same problem, 4 alt accounts?

Dear sir we should be more generous to give merit , strong account gives merit to another strong account. I have tried to post quality content 3 times which consume 1 day (research included) , people are getting merit with small post , may be for visibility. But weak account post tends to be less visible to those people having sMerit.  Now I am suffering to get 1 merit point , if I understand that process may be I will try in that way , give me your suggestion.

Yes,  I have noticed this too. But I guess we will have to go though this since we were not very active on bitcoin talk. The merit system does deter spam on the forum which is a much greater problem to deal with than us getting our ranks up.
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