Merit & new rank requirements

[OSEIBOATENG]

I have now gotten to know the merit system of this platform. This means if you do your best people with the ability to give merits will give them to you. Have been wondering about this and have now gotten it. Thanks Admin

[tsoyens01]

I think Merit is good function that must be added a long time ago. It can prevent spam posts with no quality.
Every one must concern what they are posting and their posts must be constructive.
Because that recently many members just want to spam their posts.

[phanphanphuyen]

Right! Merit system has brought good things to the forum and forum users.

I think Merit is good functionthat must be added a long time ago.

Wrong! Honestly, I don't think that merit system can completely prevent or eliminate spamming endemic in the forum. It is just be able to change some spammers to contrucstive users over time, just part of spammers will change, not all.

It can prevent spam posts with no quality.
Every one must concern what they are posting and their posts must be constructive.

[soulcancer]

I think that the merit system will ensure that all of the more advanced accounts will be the only ones to decide who receives an advanced account so that they may be able to decide who receives account advancement...thereby ensuring that only those who are higher in the rankings can determine who will be higher in the rankings...in the true spirit of cryptocurrency, we can appoint a centralized authority (authority, only because they were here longer) to determine who gets to be a member of the centralized authority...seems to work for the banks...what could go wrong??

[The Sceptical Chymist]

all of the more advanced accounts will be the only ones to decide who receives an advanced account so that they may be able to decide who receives account advancement

Do you even read the nonsense you're writing?

Are you one of the ones who's wondering why you're not receiving merits?

Keep writing dipshit posts, and you'll never earn merit or rank up.  This post is as big of a bloated mess of jumbled crap as I've ever had the displeasure of reading on bitcointalk.  English is not your strong suit, so you might want to just post in the local section and hope there's a merit source there to give you points--IF you actually write better in your native language.

[ilcapitano]

I think that the merit system will ensure that all of the more advanced accounts will be the only ones to decide who receives an advanced account so that they may be able to decide who receives account advancement...thereby ensuring that only those who are higher in the rankings can determine who will be higher in the rankings...in the true spirit of cryptocurrency, we can appoint a centralized authority (authority, only because they were here longer) to determine who gets to be a member of the centralized authority...seems to work for the banks...what could go wrong??

Wow, excellent remark about merit system. With this point of view, you will probably never get any merit points (of course, you will get them if you change your stance).
Merit system was created, has existed and will stay here to help us, to help the forum, to change the forum to be better, to enhance internal values of forum users.
DO you understand what I mean, fella?
Let change yourself first.

[Slavyanskiy]

Friends, I just can not understand why the members have so little sendable merit (sMerit)?
If the  Merit system is created in order to increase the number of constructive and quality posts,
why can not the participants evaluate these posts?
Because they have little sMerit. This is a problem and it must be solved!

I suggest increasing the number of sMerit!

Rank	Sendable merit (sMerit)
Brand new	0
Newbie	5 (they too should be able to assess posts)
Jr Member	10
Member	25
Full Member	50-100
Sr. Member	200
Hero Member	400
Legendary	800-1000

And every month the number of sMerit should be renewed.
For example: the Member had 25 sMerit, he sent everything, and at the beginning of the month he will again have 25 sMerit.

P.S. Sorry for my English.

[ilcapitano]

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For example, the Member had 25 sMerit, he sent everything, and at the beginning of the month he will again have 25 sMerit.
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Never be like that, my friend.
If Theymos allow this automatically merit allocations, he will also defaulted allow more massive merit abusements in the forum. Spammers will easily rank up like before the launch of current merit system.
So, let's forget your foolish ideas (sorry for my offensive words).

[BTCeminjas]

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For example, the Member had 25 sMerit, he sent everything, and at the beginning of the month he will again have 25 sMerit.
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Never be like that, my friend.
If Theymos allow this automatically merit allocations, he will also defaulted allow more massive merit abusements in the forum. Spammers will easily rank up like before the launch of current merit system.
So, let's forget your foolish ideas (sorry for my offensive words).

That's right mate, why all of you guys worried the merit? Are you all hurrying to rank up?
Well, the answer is like this. Just try to post or reply to the genuine thread that makes sure that have sense in the forum and forget the about the merit. Then who know someone like your post and give their smerit to your post.

I suggest increasing the number of sMerit!

Rank	Sendable merit (sMerit)
Brand new	0
Newbie	5 (they too should be able to assess posts)
Jr Member	10
Member	25
Full Member	50-100
Sr. Member	200
Hero Member	400
Legendary	800-1000

That is impossible to happen that to lowered merit requirements, if i were the shoe of sir theymos those newbies account i give them 6months and 20 merit required before they rank up. They need first to explor the forum not to stick on megathread.

[sncc]

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For example, the Member had 25 sMerit, he sent everything, and at the beginning of the month he will again have 25 sMerit.
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Never be like that, my friend.
If Theymos allow this automatically merit allocations, he will also defaulted allow more massive merit abusements in the forum. Spammers will easily rank up like before the launch of current merit system.
So, let's forget your foolish ideas (sorry for my offensive words).

That's right mate, why all of you guys worried the merit? Are you all hurrying to rank up?
Well, the answer is like this. Just try to post or reply to the genuine thread that makes sure that have sense in the forum and forget the about the merit. Then who know someone like your post and give their smerit to your post.

Right, what you are suggesting is what merit sources are allowed for.  They are designated as merit sources for their ability to evaluate quality posts in a fair way.  If everyone's sMerit balances were automatically replenished, it would lead to a lot of abuse.

[ifanxu]

By contributing something to the forum doesn't give you merit. A Jr. Member (like me) cannot get easily merit. so, I feel desperate for my next position.

[cryptocommoner]

By contributing something to the forum doesn't give you merit. A Jr. Member (like me) cannot get easily merit. so, I feel desperate for my next position.

Clearly, you only want the next rank to participate in more signature campaigns.  Just keep active on the board and post meaningful posts if you are trying to get merit.  You still have to add to your activity before you are able to become a member anyways.  It will happen in time bud.

[soulcancer]

all of the more advanced accounts will be the only ones to decide who receives an advanced account so that they may be able to decide who receives account advancement

Do you even read the nonsense you're writing?

Are you one of the ones who's wondering why you're not receiving merits?

Keep writing dipshit posts, and you'll never earn merit or rank up.  This post is as big of a bloated mess of jumbled crap as I've ever had the displeasure of reading on bitcointalk.  English is not your strong suit, so you might want to just post in the local section and hope there's a merit source there to give you points--IF you actually write better in your native language.

the post was meant to be nonsensical to illustrate a nonsensical aspect of the merit system...that being, creating a centralized power (on a board focused on decentralization) that will in turn decide who gets to join the centralized power...I realize that something must be done to combat all of the sock puppets and bots...I have personally reported dozens of them and nothing has been done to them...and, no, I don't know a better way...simply pointing out something that no one else did...and i didn't realize that I would have to explain every iota of my post...sorry...

I think that the merit system will ensure that all of the more advanced accounts will be the only ones to decide who receives an advanced account so that they may be able to decide who receives account advancement...thereby ensuring that only those who are higher in the rankings can determine who will be higher in the rankings...in the true spirit of cryptocurrency, we can appoint a centralized authority (authority, only because they were here longer) to determine who gets to be a member of the centralized authority...seems to work for the banks...what could go wrong??

Wow, excellent remark about merit system. With this point of view, you will probably never get any merit points (of course, you will get them if you change your stance).
Merit system was created, has existed and will stay here to help us, to help the forum, to change the forum to be better, to enhance internal values of forum users.
DO you understand what I mean, fella?
Let change yourself first.

I didn't realize that simply disagreeing with everyone would be construed as not contributing....so, if I just change my stance and agree with everyone, and not point out an obvious flaw that I have noticed, I can expect to receive merit?...sounds good....thanx....fella...btw, for those a bit too slow to notice, this was sarcasm...

[raresh]

I feel the merit system has created of lot of insincere comments wherein can be feld something is wanted(merit) in return. I'm not saying these comments can't be constructive but for me it's often hard to experience this desperation. Sometimes i do believe the system works this in hand. However, i aswell do strongly feel the most qualitative comments are written just for the sake of writing them and merit will come to those who are free from desire

[soulcancer]

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For example, the Member had 25 sMerit, he sent everything, and at the beginning of the month he will again have 25 sMerit.
~

Never be like that, my friend.
If Theymos allow this automatically merit allocations, he will also defaulted allow more massive merit abusements in the forum. Spammers will easily rank up like before the launch of current merit system.
So, let's forget your foolish ideas (sorry for my offensive words).

That's right mate, why all of you guys worried the merit? Are you all hurrying to rank up?
Well, the answer is like this. Just try to post or reply to the genuine thread that makes sure that have sense in the forum and forget the about the merit. Then who know someone like your post and give their smerit to your post.

Right, what you are suggesting is what merit sources are allowed for.  They are designated as merit sources for their ability to evaluate quality posts in a fair way.  If everyone's sMerit balances were automatically replenished, it would lead to a lot of abuse.

so, now you've gone and done it....im thinking too much again...people want to discredit my posts because I don't seem to want to pray at the alter of merit....so look at this guy "sncc"....and, I don't mean to be calling you out dude, its just a perfect example of what im talking about....here is someone whos account is not even 100 days old...has activity of 112....and merit of 104.....and most of those merit points came from commenting about.....you guessed it....the merit system!!...in the end, it is simply a popularity contest with the ones who blow the most smoke up the asses of the higher-ups getting the points

[The Sceptical Chymist]

so, if I just change my stance and agree with everyone, and not point out an obvious flaw that I have noticed, I can expect to receive merit?

No, but now that you mention it, there are people here who are trying exactly what you described.  There are shitposters writing nonsense about how people shouldn't shitpost.  It's absolutely ridiculous--and fortunately it's transparent as hell, so these waste-oids aren't earning the merits they think they deserve.

Your post was also nonsense the way it was written, which is why I commented on it.  I did not think you were trying to be ironic, or witty, or were making a commentary on the state of things.  The forum is full of idiotic posts like yours, and especially with the part that I quoted.  Shitposters attempt to meet the minimum amount of characters for their signature campaigns by writing crap like that, and it ends up being garbage.  A good writer can meet any campaign minimum and still write posts that are interesting--easily!

I feel desperate for my next position.

If you're really desperate to rank up, you're on bitcointalk for all the reasons that aren't respected.  And with writing as crappy as what you've demonstrated, you shouldn't be allowed to rank up.  That's how the merit system is designed to work--people like you get weeded out.

[soulcancer]

so, if I just change my stance and agree with everyone, and not point out an obvious flaw that I have noticed, I can expect to receive merit?

No, but now that you mention it, there are people here who are trying exactly what you described.  There are shitposters writing nonsense about how people shouldn't shitpost.  It's absolutely ridiculous--and fortunately it's transparent as hell, so these waste-oids aren't earning the merits they think they deserve.

Your post was also nonsense the way it was written, which is why I commented on it.  I did not think you were trying to be ironic, or witty, or were making a commentary on the state of things.  The forum is full of idiotic posts like yours, and especially with the part that I quoted.  Shitposters attempt to meet the minimum amount of characters for their signature campaigns by writing crap like that, and it ends up being garbage.  A good writer can meet any campaign minimum and still write posts that are interesting--easily!

I feel desperate for my next position.

If you're really desperate to rank up, you're on bitcointalk for all the reasons that aren't respected.  And with writing as crappy as what you've demonstrated, you shouldn't be allowed to rank up.  That's how the merit system is designed to work--people like you get weeded out.

seriously??....you honestly think that I sought out the thread about the merit system to shitpost and meet some minimum requirement for my signature?? (which, had you done any research you would know pays exactly zero)...the one place that I am SURE to get called out for shitposting is right here...I am not here to make money...im not here to make friends...im here to learn, and if I can, to help...hopefully, the learning will earn me some money in the market...I stand by my opinion of the merit system...I am not saying it is a horrendous system, but jesus christ, the way that the merit gets thrown around on threads about the merit system, its just begging to be noticed (and laughed at)...and I will continue to post my opinions about how I see things regardless of whether or not it costs me merit...and thereby, advancement...and btw, if you take your merit and twist it up really small, it wont hurt so much when you shove it up your ass....I didn't want to eat at your lunch table anyway

edit:  and I would like to know your opinion of the point I mentioned above about the guy w/ a 95 day old account w/ merit of 104...mostly for posting about the merit system over the course of 60 days...which is 1.73 merit points per day...thanks

[tsoyens01]

This new system of things introduced to Bitcointalk is something I think has been long overdue and a sigh of relief will be breathe into this community.
There are users who just post garbage and spam in order to get activities, and I think the moderators do well by cracking down on them but the new merit system will ensure that the abuse of this forum will reduce and more important contents will be encouraged.
My personal opinion on merits.

[soulcancer]

sorry, I cant help myself...this stuff is just dying to be mocked...look at the merit given out to the OP, for creating a thread about merit...any new tech here??...anything that will advance the world of crypto??...perhaps a new economic philosophy that will change everything??....nope, just simply announcing a new hierarchical system....turned into an opportunity to create an echo chamber of the same idea, where the uber accounts can take turns patting each other on the back, shifting merit back and forth and throwing the occasional  bone to some noob that's willing to kiss the ring....honestly, 50 merit points for simply announcing the new merit system??...from 6 different accounts??...what a friggin hilarious puke-fest

[tbct_mt2]

of course, merit system does not bring us any breaking technological feature, but it help us to change the bitcointalk forum.
In addition, the system help us to control spammers, prevent them to rank up and become shitty-Hero and -Ledgendary in the future.

New rank requirements related to merit system are good, too. Haha, sorry for saying this.
I think Theymos did a good work for the forum, generally.

sorry, I cant help myself...this stuff is just dying to be mocked...look at the merit given out to the OP, for creating a thread about merit...any new tech here??...anything that will advance the world of crypto??...perhaps a new economic philosophy that will change everything??....nope, just simply announcing a new hierarchical system....

Most of them send their large number of merit points to Theymos at earlier days after the launch of merit system when merits are not extremely scarce like at the moment. Moreover, this is one of the way they show their respect to Theymos for his great work!
I don't see any serious problem with this.

turned into an opportunity to create an echo chamber of the same idea, where the uber accounts can take turns patting each other on the back, shifting merit back and forth and throwing the occasional  bone to some noob that's willing to kiss the ring....honestly, 50 merit points for simply announcing the new merit system??...from 6 different accounts??...what a friggin hilarious puke-fest

You should change, if not you will never rank up in the forum.

Good luck my friend.