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ISAWHIM
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March 09, 2014, 09:39:53 AM |
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good, I am happy that with all bad things which I said for you were not wasted. You are starting to realize what is all about. If you stand to your words with actions I will sincerely apologize to you here in public. Just for the record when was the shipment of your machine supposed to happen a month or two ago? No need to apologize to me, for you being yourself... No, My machine was expected (in a perfect world, without the delays), around the middle of Feb to the end of Feb. That is when they said shipping would be expected to "start", for the order-number I was located at. The follow-up places the next expected delivery-date for my order around the end of this month, I think... (Before they posted the issue update about the 1.5THs and the addition of trying to cram a 6th board in the units, via a back-plane extension or redesign.) I'll mine later... Not like my coins are going up in difficulty any time soon. (I will not be mining high-diff BTC.)
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March 09, 2014, 09:47:41 AM |
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good, I am happy that with all bad things which I said for you were not wasted. You are starting to realize what is all about. If you stand to your words with actions I will sincerely apologize to you here in public. Just for the record when was the shipment of your machine supposed to happen a month or two ago? No need to apologize to me, for you being yourself... No, My machine was expected (in a perfect world, without the delays), around the middle of Feb to the end of Feb. That is when they said shipping would be expected to "start", for the order-number I was located at. The follow-up places the next expected delivery-date for my order around the end of this month, I think... (Before they posted the issue update about the 1.5THs and the addition of trying to cram a 6th board in the units, via a back-plane extension or redesign.) I'll mine later... Not like my coins are going up in difficulty any time soon. (I will not be mining high-diff BTC.) I am asking what was the promised date for delivery when you make a payment not according to the announced delays. About sixst module, I do not wanna be an ass all again but they will need to put two psu for that. Even 1500w psu installed in bitmine machine is not enough for 6 modules
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March 09, 2014, 09:50:15 AM Last edit: March 09, 2014, 10:00:21 AM by loshia |
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Nice pics guys did you borrow them for georgio Pcb factory I am wandering why cgminer screen on first pic is out of focus also And finally why are you not making your four chip board And where is my money for the bet in at the wall power consumption? And why are you not sending me your four chip board? Yeah I know it is working charmly and I own you 25 btc. Will you be so kind to send me your wallet address so I can send the immediately
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March 09, 2014, 09:59:04 AM |
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I am asking what was the promised date for delivery when you make a payment not according to the announced delays. About sixst module, I do not wanna be an ass all again but they will need to put two psu for that. Even 1500w psu installed in bitmine machine is not enough for 6 modules I told you... The middle of Feb to the end of Feb, is when they originally said the "shipping" for my order number would have been expected. I was never given a solid "shipping date" or "delivery date". Only a batch-date (Which was the first estimate on the website, where you placed an order.) I imagine they will be using two PSU's, if they cram 6 modules into there. Assuming 2x 800w or 2x 900w... Since that would not be the standard setup for 1.2THs, those would be "special" setups for those who had to wait through the delays. Not sure what the full plan is, but I would strip-out those cross-braces on the cage, to open the miner up for better placement. Just got to pop-out a few rivets, and that horrible hard-drive section is out of the way. P.S. If I do go there, to work... My thermal imager is coming with me... and my solowheel!
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March 09, 2014, 09:59:17 AM |
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Loshia,
Can you please just cut it out. Its a bit ridiculous. We're asking politely ok. You have not liked us from the beginning, we know why and what your opinion is, just let it go already. We apologize for correcting your English, it was not correct to do so.
And Bulgaria is a very nice country and very beautiful country. we enjoyed our time there, we respect the Bulgarian people and think in the technical fields, there are some absolutely brilliant individuals that are not recognized for their greatness. The only downside in your nation, and it has always been that way, is that Bulgarians do not confirm or unit as one, they don't work together well. They are brilliant, but must do everything alone if its possible.
Their lack of unification has caused them to suffer through years of bad political choices which led to a century enslavement, communism and now, well you watch the news. Their culture almost teaches the average Bulgarian person - to not trust anyone so quick. - and even when you've known him for years, still think twice about trusting him.
But more over, why Bulgaria wins this round. It would be the social life in Bulgaria, how people relax, sit on a table for 5 hours, drink and eat, the whole European thing, that's where they got it right.
Oh and the black sea. Anywhere along the bulgarian black sea coast is worth visiting. Sozopol/Nessebur.. its a nice one.
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March 09, 2014, 10:04:25 AM |
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Loshia,
Can you please just cut it out. Its a bit ridiculous. We're asking politely ok. You have not liked us from the beginning, we know why and what your opinion is, just let it go already. We apologize for correcting your English, it was not correct to do so.
And Bulgaria is a very nice country and very beautiful country. we enjoyed our time there, we respect the Bulgarian people and think in the technical fields, there are some absolutely brilliant individuals that are not recognized for their greatness. The only downside in your nation, and it has always been that way, is that Bulgarians do not confirm or unit as one, they don't work together well. They are brilliant, but must do everything alone if its possible.
Their lack of unification has caused them to suffer through years of bad political choices which led to a century enslavement, communism and now, well you watch the news. Their culture almost teaches the average Bulgarian person - to not trust anyone so quick. - and even when you've known him for years, still think twice about trusting him.
But more over, why Bulgaria wins this round. It would be the social life in Bulgaria, how people relax, sit on a table for 5 hours, drink and eat, the whole European thing, that's where they got it right.
Oh and the black sea. Anywhere along the bulgarian black sea coast is worth visiting. Sozopol/Nessebur.. its a nice one.
Bla bla Lesson learned thank you. For sure you have put some light in the end of the tunnel for us Bulgarians and for everyone else. We judge people buy their actions that is what I can tell you Thank you very much I will ask again Where are my money for power consumption in/at the wall bet? Are you taking my 25 btc bet for your four chip board
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March 09, 2014, 10:04:52 AM |
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Nice pics guys did you borrow them for georgio Pcb factory I am wandering why cgminer screen on first pic is out of focus also And finally why are you not making your four chip board And where is my money for the bet in at the wall power consumption? And why are you not sending me your four chip board? Yeah I know it is working charmly and I own you 25 btc. Will you be so kind to send me your wallet address so I can send the immediately That's at one of our CM's Loshia, we're there a lot now. They've given us a cot to sleep on. Someone needs to mount heatsinks bud. Pics were shot with the phone, wasn't trying to hit the cgminer stats - trying to demo the 6th card cage slot .
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March 09, 2014, 10:07:01 AM |
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Loshia,
Can you please just cut it out. Its a bit ridiculous. We're asking politely ok. You have not liked us from the beginning, we know why and what your opinion is, just let it go already. We apologize for correcting your English, it was not correct to do so.
And Bulgaria is a very nice country and very beautiful country. we enjoyed our time there, we respect the Bulgarian people and think in the technical fields, there are some absolutely brilliant individuals that are not recognized for their greatness. The only downside in your nation, and it has always been that way, is that Bulgarians do not confirm or unit as one, they don't work together well. They are brilliant, but must do everything alone if its possible.
Their lack of unification has caused them to suffer through years of bad political choices which led to a century enslavement, communism and now, well you watch the news. Their culture almost teaches the average Bulgarian person - to not trust anyone so quick. - and even when you've known him for years, still think twice about trusting him.
But more over, why Bulgaria wins this round. It would be the social life in Bulgaria, how people relax, sit on a table for 5 hours, drink and eat, the whole European thing, that's where they got it right.
Oh and the black sea. Anywhere along the bulgarian black sea coast is worth visiting. Sozopol/Nessebur.. its a nice one.
Bla bla Lesson learned thank you. For sure you have put some light in the end of the tunnel for us Bulgarians and for everyone else. We judge people buy their actions that is what I can tell you Thank you very much I will ask again Where are my money for power consumption in/at the wall bet? Are you taking my 25 btc bet for your four chip board Its a new bet? What happened to last bet? On our internal 4 chip, rev 3 wont come back until the 17th if we're lucky. 5 day process for protos over here.
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ISAWHIM
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March 09, 2014, 10:08:01 AM |
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That's at one of our CM's Loshia, we're there a lot now. They've given us a cot to sleep on. Someone needs to mount heatsinks bud. Pics were shot with the phone, wasn't trying to hit the cgminer stats - trying to demo the 6th card cage slot . Better have a cot to spare... Save me some driving time... More time to work... Tell Josh to hurry-up and accept my employment already. lol. I can be there in a week! P.S. I don't actually sleep much... (Insomniac) Only need like 4 hours tops... Then I am good to go back to work.
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loshia
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March 09, 2014, 10:15:42 AM |
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Loshia,
Can you please just cut it out. Its a bit ridiculous. We're asking politely ok. You have not liked us from the beginning, we know why and what your opinion is, just let it go already. We apologize for correcting your English, it was not correct to do so.
And Bulgaria is a very nice country and very beautiful country. we enjoyed our time there, we respect the Bulgarian people and think in the technical fields, there are some absolutely brilliant individuals that are not recognized for their greatness. The only downside in your nation, and it has always been that way, is that Bulgarians do not confirm or unit as one, they don't work together well. They are brilliant, but must do everything alone if its possible.
Their lack of unification has caused them to suffer through years of bad political choices which led to a century enslavement, communism and now, well you watch the news. Their culture almost teaches the average Bulgarian person - to not trust anyone so quick. - and even when you've known him for years, still think twice about trusting him.
But more over, why Bulgaria wins this round. It would be the social life in Bulgaria, how people relax, sit on a table for 5 hours, drink and eat, the whole European thing, that's where they got it right.
Oh and the black sea. Anywhere along the bulgarian black sea coast is worth visiting. Sozopol/Nessebur.. its a nice one.
Bla bla Lesson learned thank you. For sure you have put some light in the end of the tunnel for us Bulgarians and for everyone else. We judge people buy their actions that is what I can tell you Thank you very much I will ask again Where are my money for power consumption in/at the wall bet? Are you taking my 25 btc bet for your four chip board Its a new bet? What happened to last bet? On our internal 4 chip, rev 3 wont come back until the 17th if we're lucky. 5 day process for protos over here. Pathetic Amt the sweet part is that all is documented there in the forums. So let us forget abut 4 board bet as I can see you are silently agreeing to my statement that this is not working. To refresh your memory for power consumption bet I stated that power at in the wall can not be 600-900 wats as a announced for 1.2t machine performing with1.2t It turned out that it is 1064w So who is the winner me or you?
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March 09, 2014, 10:18:55 AM Last edit: March 09, 2014, 10:30:59 AM by loshia |
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Nice pics guys did you borrow them for georgio Pcb factory I am wandering why cgminer screen on first pic is out of focus also And finally why are you not making your four chip board And where is my money for the bet in at the wall power consumption? And why are you not sending me your four chip board? Yeah I know it is working charmly and I own you 25 btc. Will you be so kind to send me your wallet address so I can send the immediately That's at one of our CM's Loshia, we're there a lot now. They've given us a cot to sleep on. Someone needs to mount heatsinks bud. Pics were shot with the phone, wasn't trying to hit the cgminer stats - trying to demo the 6th card cage slot . Bla bla think positive I like that You know when you ship something to your customers the truth will be revealed. No matter how hard are you trying do disguise it A friendly advise from me 1500w psu 100a on 12v rail will blow 6 modules reaching 1.2t+ Just save this hassle in your "trial and error development/manufacturing process" and to your customers later . And tell them to change their fuses in their homes
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March 09, 2014, 10:33:36 AM |
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That's at one of our CM's Loshia, we're there a lot now. They've given us a cot to sleep on. Someone needs to mount heatsinks bud. Pics were shot with the phone, wasn't trying to hit the cgminer stats - trying to demo the 6th card cage slot . Better have a cot to spare... Save me some driving time... More time to work... Tell Josh to hurry-up and accept my employment already. lol. I can be there in a week! P.S. I don't actually sleep much... (Insomniac) Only need like 4 hours tops... Then I am good to go back to work. Hey, You did not answer to my question. I am not I insisting though. But because of my English skills I just wanna make sure you did understand clearly what I was asking so I will ask again When you paid for your miner what was the delivery date stated back then by AMT?
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ISAWHIM
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March 09, 2014, 10:47:06 AM |
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Arg, for the THIRD TIME... lol... My date was estimated, originally, to be (Mid Fed to Late Feb)... Which was before the chip-MFG, (Bitmine) announced they had delayed shipping chips to everyone. (Which included AMT's order of chips.) 1500w psu 100a on 12v rail will blow 6 modules reaching 1.2t+ Just save this hassle in your "trial and error development process" and to your customers later . And tell them to change their fuses in their homes The 1.0THs miners run at 1065W at the wall, running at 1.0THs, at chip-voltage... That would only be about 1278W for a 1.2THs, which a 1200W PSU can deliver. 1200W @ 80% efficiency will draw 1440W at the wall. It still delivers 1200W, but it consumes 20% additional power, to provide that 1200W. (Eg, my 750W PSU pulls up to 900W continuous power at the wall. Though, that is right at the PSU's maximum ability. Borderline operation at that point.) However, that being said... The 1.0THs miner from Bitmine.ch pulled 1065W at the wall, but the PSU was only delivering 852W to the boards, even less to the chips themselves. So, I would assume they were using a 1000W PSU or 1200W PSU. Are you still confusing chip-consumption with unit-consumption? The 1500W PSU should be able to handle the 1.5THs worth of boards. Just not in high turbo mode. It should be able to handle 1.5THs in normal power, whatever they set as the default normal power for the unit. Running the 1.5THs unit at 1.2THs would be getting into the low-power mode, and the PSU should handle that without stress. Might be able to do 1.2THs under 900W at the wall, with the 1.5THs unit.
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March 09, 2014, 10:54:26 AM |
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Arg, for the THIRD TIME... lol... My date was estimated, originally, to be (Mid Fed to Late Feb)... Which was before the chip-MFG, (Bitmine) announced they had delayed shipping chips to everyone. (Which included AMT's order of chips.) 1500w psu 100a on 12v rail will blow 6 modules reaching 1.2t+ Just save this hassle in your "trial and error development process" and to your customers later . And tell them to change their fuses in their homes The 1.0THs miners run at 1065W at the wall, running at 1.0THs, at chip-voltage... That would only be about 1278W for a 1.2THs, which a 1200W PSU can deliver. 1200W @ 80% efficiency will draw 1440W at the wall. It still delivers 1200W, but it consumes 20% additional power, to provide that 1200W. (Eg, my 750W PSU pulls up to 900W continuous power at the wall. Though, that is right at the PSU's maximum ability. Borderline operation at that point.) However, that being said... The 1.0THs miner from Bitmine.ch pulled 1065W at the wall, but the PSU was only delivering 852W to the boards, even less to the chips themselves. So, I would assume they were using a 1000W PSU or 1200W PSU. Are you still confusing chip-consumption with unit-consumption? The 1500W PSU should be able to handle the 1.5THs worth of boards. Just not in high turbo mode. It should be able to handle 1.5THs in normal power, whatever they set as the default normal power for the unit. Running the 1.5THs unit at 1.2THs would be getting into the low-power mode, and the PSU should handle that without stress. Might be able to do 1.2THs under 900W at the wall, with the 1.5THs unit. Super, If you happen to arrive there show some mercy and do not blow to much psu.asics:) I like the part Might be able to do 1.2THs under 900W at the wall, with the 1.5THs unit. Amt where are my bet money? Are you going to mass ship 1.5t units to your customers About your delivery date it has Ben delayed two weeks already right if we speak of end of February better for amt. Can you post in public how many btc you have lost? And how many you will lose next 2-4 weeks? 10X Have in mind that everybody knows except you and amt that this chips do not work in power save mode I guess amt know it also but for some reason they are hiding it:) Speaking of 6 module unit if they do it like mass shipped product they will be at loss or around zero. I doubt that my 10 btc will cover that:) Do not expect 6 module unit to be shipped to all of you! One or two units yes sure for the sake of PR
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March 09, 2014, 11:07:14 AM |
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The updated specs for the new 1.2THs miners are as follows... (As updated from almost a month ago.) 900w-1200w (Which we requested to be listed as "at the wall" unit-consumption, not post-PSU chip-consumption. Chip-consumption is still 600-900W, I would imagine.)
That is for the 5-module 1.2THs units, I believe. Since the 6-module units are NOT 1.2THs, but 1.5THs units. (And thus, will not consume the same stated power. However, they should, potentially, be able to operate as a 1.2THs miner, consuming less power than the 1.2THs miner. Since the chips would be operating below "normal" settings and there would be more chips.)
There is a power-consumption break-down in another thread, but it uses a highly over-rated PSU which would not be a proper representation of these units actual consumption. Also, he only adjusts the clock frequency, not the voltage, and only takes it down to 68% of the nominal chip-clock-speed. Getting results near 1W/GHs measured at the wall with a 3-card unit on a 1000W PSU which would only be about 60% efficient at that under-rated load. That is not on an AMT board though. (Not sure what exact setup controls they have for the unit.)
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March 09, 2014, 11:15:08 AM Last edit: March 09, 2014, 11:35:00 AM by loshia |
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The updated specs for the new 1.2THs miners are as follows... (As updated from almost a month ago.) 900w-1200w
That is for the 5-module 1.2THs units, I believe. Since the 6-module units are NOT 1.2THs, but 1.5THs units. (And thus, will not consume the same stated power. However, they should, potentially, be able to operate as a 1.2THs miner, consuming less power than the 1.2THs miner. Since the chips would be operating below "normal" settings and there would be more chips.)
There is a power-consumption break-down in another thread, but it uses a highly over-rated PSU which would not be a proper representation of these units actual consumption. Also, he only adjusts the clock frequency, not the voltage, and only takes it down to 68% of the nominal chip-clock-speed. Getting results near 1W/GHs measured at the wall with a 3-card unit on a 1000W PSU which would only be about 60% efficient at that under-rated load. That is not on an AMT board though. (Not sure what exact setup controls they have for the unit.)
And that update happen after my noise about the power and the bet.and all of a sudden it turned out I lost it. Forum history never lies. You can chek it yourself though. Good luck with your venture and make sure you do the math and exactly know how much money you have lost because AMT lies and delays Amt where are my money And do not forget that 5 module unit in bitmine video was eating 1064w at the wall add 20% on top at least for 1.2 t unit 5 modules Once again my bet was in at the wall power if you remember you were the one to correct my english Follow this bet only thread posts and you will see how amt lies just come and go silently And they twisting things all the way At the end I expect you as their customers to own them though
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March 09, 2014, 11:57:25 AM |
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Thanks AMT for the update!! Keep up it and lets get shipping !!!! Is the power supply going to fit?
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March 09, 2014, 12:04:03 PM |
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Thanks AMT for the update!! Keep up it and lets get shipping !!!! Is the power supply going to fit? I wonder if it is FCC regulations that require AMT to include a case?
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March 09, 2014, 12:19:48 PM |
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Thanks AMT for the update!! Keep up it and lets get shipping !!!! Is the power supply going to fit? I wonder if it is FCC regulations that require AMT to include a case? Alot of times companies use an external power supply is to avoid having to get a UL listing.
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