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August 16, 2021, 05:54:25 PM
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Jos Buttler and Ollie Robinson have built a useful partnership when the team needs it. Buttler made 25 off 94 balls. Now they need to bat to draw the match. The match will be a draw if the pair can survive a few more overs. I'm still hoping for a draw.
The partnership is broken now. Jasprit Bumrah got the wicket of Ollie Robinson. 9 overs remain and India needs to take another two wickets. Oh.. just now Jos Buttler was nabbed by Mohammed Siraj. That means India is just one wicket away from victory. Really pathetic performance from the England batsmen. After Joe Root got out, none of the other batsmen even managed to put any decent fight. And the Indian pacers were simply outstanding. Everyone of them contributed with frequent strikes.
India won the game! Anyone expected it? The batting pitch turned good for bowlers in the final two days. It was also mentioned in the pitch report that the pitch will be favourable for blowers on day 4th and 5th. However, I thought it would end as draw, but England batted very badly on day 5. They should have played with more patience. Odds and predictions are wrong here. After the end of day four England was still favourite in the game.

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August 16, 2021, 06:06:53 PM
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India won the game! Anyone expected it? The batting pitch turned good for bowlers in the final two days. It was also mentioned in the pitch report that the pitch will be favourable for blowers on day 4th and 5th. However, I thought it would end as draw, but England batted very badly on day 5. They should have played with more patience. Odds and predictions are wrong here. After the end of day four England was still favourite in the game.
The odds for India winning the match was well over 2.4 and i thought they would be a draw but the Indian tail end and the bowlers surprised everyone as this should be their biggest win in England. I thought India would have won the first match if not for the weather delays and i thought this match would end up in a draw.

Full credits to the Indian bowlers and they are a force to reckon even though they gave the player of the match to KL Rahul, the match winners were the bowler.
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August 16, 2021, 06:14:25 PM
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India won the game! Anyone expected it? The batting pitch turned good for bowlers in the final two days. It was also mentioned in the pitch report that the pitch will be favourable for blowers on day 4th and 5th. However, I thought it would end as draw, but England batted very badly on day 5. They should have played with more patience. Odds and predictions are wrong here. After the end of day four England was still favourite in the game.

The bowlers didn't got any additional support from the pitch. I couldn't notice any substantial bounce or seam movement from any of the bowlers. The England batsmen were out of form and that was the reason for their batting collapse. Even in the first innings, if you take Joe Root's innings away, almost none of the other players contributed with the bat. And in the second innings it got worse, since Root also fell before he could get to the half-century mark. The Indian pacers bowled with a lot of discipline, and the credit should go to them.
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August 16, 2021, 06:35:05 PM
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After the end of day four England was still favourite in the game.
I disagree. Draw was the most favorable outcome after Day 4. Also, England got lucky thanks to rain interference in the 1st test which is why I am not surprised by them getting decimated by India in the 2nd test.

Full credits to the Indian bowlers and they are a force to reckon even though they gave the player of the match to KL Rahul, the match winners were the bowler.
I agree. They should have given that award to Siraj or Shami. Both took many wickets and Shami batted really well towards the end of the 2nd innings.

The Indian tail-enders consistently keep rescuing the Indian team in recent times. The top and middle orders need to learn from their performances.

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August 16, 2021, 09:20:22 PM
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After the end of day four England was still favourite in the game.
I disagree. Draw was the most favorable outcome after Day 4. Also, England got lucky thanks to rain interference in the 1st test which is why I am not surprised by them getting decimated by India in the 2nd test.

Full credits to the Indian bowlers and they are a force to reckon even though they gave the player of the match to KL Rahul, the match winners were the bowler.
I agree. They should have given that award to Siraj or Shami. Both took many wickets and Shami batted really well towards the end of the 2nd innings.

The Indian tail-enders consistently keep rescuing the Indian team in recent times. The top and middle orders need to learn from their performances.
Congratulations to the Indian cricket team because one of its rivals has snatched a full match win. However, it was reasonable to give the man of the match to Mohammad Siraj instead of Rahul. 9 wickets in a Test is a huge achievement 'So I think it makes sense to give the man of the match to Mohammad Siraj instead of Rahul.

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Congratulations to the Indian cricket team because one of its rivals has snatched a full match win. However, it was reasonable to give the man of the match to Mohammad Siraj instead of Rahul. 9 wickets in a Test is a huge achievement 'So I think it makes sense to give the man of the match to Mohammad Siraj instead of Rahul.
Mohammed Siraj was the find of the series when they toured Australia and if not for the injures for other players we will not see him playing here which is an incredible feat because he has placed a spot in this highly competitive team and all the bowlers are complimenting each other and creating a potent bowling unit to face any team outside of the subcontinent.
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Full credits to the Indian bowlers and they are a force to reckon even though they gave the player of the match to KL Rahul, the match winners were the bowler.
I agree. They should have given that award to Siraj or Shami. Both took many wickets and Shami batted really well towards the end of the 2nd innings.

The Indian tail-enders consistently keep rescuing the Indian team in recent times. The top and middle orders need to learn from their performances.
Siraj or Shami should've been given the Man of the Match. By the time they might've come up with the decisions based on the first innings, if he hasn't scored it India might've not reached 364 runs. This will surely make the second innings more pressured. It is true to see most of the matches won in recent months for India has happened out of the tail enders.

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Full credits to the Indian bowlers and they are a force to reckon even though they gave the player of the match to KL Rahul, the match winners were the bowler.
I agree. They should have given that award to Siraj or Shami. Both took many wickets and Shami batted really well towards the end of the 2nd innings.

The Indian tail-enders consistently keep rescuing the Indian team in recent times. The top and middle orders need to learn from their performances.
Siraj or Shami should've been given the Man of the Match. By the time they might've come up with the decisions based on the first innings, if he hasn't scored it India might've not reached 364 runs. This will surely make the second innings more pressured. It is true to see most of the matches won in recent months for India has happened out of the tail enders.

India as a team played very well but, KL Rahul was the one who got India the lead in the first session. If India had scored poorly in the first session then the result of this test match would have been different. I wont deny Siraj and Shami's contribution but I still think India won the match because of the early advantage created by Rahul.

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August 17, 2021, 03:10:27 AM
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It was a very difficult pitch to bat and that is the reason why I support the Man of the Match prize being awarded to KL Rahul. On the other side, Joe Root also made a century, so it looks like a good batting track on paper. Shami, Siraj and Bumrah got the wickets under conditions that are favorable to them. I don't want to sideline their achievements, but in my opinion Rahul won the match for India with his century knock. England put up a massive total of 391, and if not for Rahul, India would have been in a very bad position.

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Full credits to the Indian bowlers and they are a force to reckon even though they gave the player of the match to KL Rahul, the match winners were the bowler.
I agree. They should have given that award to Siraj or Shami. Both took many wickets and Shami batted really well towards the end of the 2nd innings.
The Indian tail-enders consistently keep rescuing the Indian team in recent times. The top and middle orders need to learn from their performances.
Siraj or Shami should've been given the Man of the Match. By the time they might've come up with the decisions based on the first innings, if he hasn't scored it India might've not reached 364 runs. This will surely make the second innings more pressured. It is true to see most of the matches won in recent months for India has happened out of the tail enders.
India as a team played very well but, KL Rahul was the one who got India the lead in the first session. If India had scored poorly in the first session then the result of this test match would have been different. I wont deny Siraj and Shami's contribution but I still think India won the match because of the early advantage created by Rahul.

I would say India won the match only for the bowlers. The bowler bowled well. At the same time, the 90 runs collected by Shami and Bumrah in the second innings were very helpful for India. If they could not collect these 90 runs, the result of the match would have been different.

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August 17, 2021, 06:07:29 AM
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India won the match thanks to the batting. There were two very important partnerships. The first one was the century stand between Rahul and Rohit, and the second one was the partnership between Bumrah and Shami. The bowlers were not very impressive in the first innings, in which England made a total of close to 400. In the second innings they bowled well, but they had England under pressure thanks to the massive stand for the 9th wicket. Without those extra runs, the match would have ended with a win for England.
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India won the match thanks to the batting. There were two very important partnerships. The first one was the century stand between Rahul and Rohit, and the second one was the partnership between Bumrah and Shami. The bowlers were not very impressive in the first innings, in which England made a total of close to 400. In the second innings they bowled well, but they had England under pressure thanks to the massive stand for the 9th wicket. Without those extra runs, the match would have ended with a win for England.

The main turning point in India's match win was the partnership of Shami and Bumrah. No one could have imagined such a remarkable partnership in the 9th wicket partnership. Though the Indian bowlers did not do well in the first innings, they surprised everyone in the second innings. It's hard for me to believe that such a batting disaster for the England team could happen at home.

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The main turning point in India's match win was the partnership of Shami and Bumrah. No one could have imagined such a remarkable partnership in the 9th wicket partnership. Though the Indian bowlers did not do well in the first innings, they surprised everyone in the second innings. It's hard for me to believe that such a batting disaster for the England team could happen at home.

The partnership between Shami and Bumrah changed the course of the match. I don't know what happened to the England bowlers. Mark Wood was in terrific form, and the way he chokeslammed Cheteshwar Pujara was exceptional. But the same Mark Wood failed miserably against two genuine tailend batsmen. Even the ever reliable James Anderson proved ineffective against the two. And the England captain made the big mistake of giving maximum number of overs to his least effective bowler (Moeen Ali).
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The partnership between Shami and Bumrah changed the course of the match. I don't know what happened to the England bowlers. Mark Wood was in terrific form, and the way he chokeslammed Cheteshwar Pujara was exceptional. But the same Mark Wood failed miserably against two genuine tailend batsmen. Even the ever reliable James Anderson proved ineffective against the two. And the England captain made the big mistake of giving maximum number of overs to his least effective bowler (Moeen Ali).
England team lost the track when they started with the bouncer tactics and more importantly they were looking for revenge against Bumrah and Shami instead of getting their wickets. (Bumrah 10 ball over with bouncer against Jimmy triggered every Englishmen in the team). Joe Root also joined the bowler and gave them freedom to attack specially against Bumrah, they even opened the field and 7 fielders were sitting at boundary line. Here Bumrah-Shami took the advantage and went to score big partnership. 

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England team lost the track when they started with the bouncer tactics and more importantly they were looking for revenge against Bumrah and Shami instead of getting their wickets. (Bumrah 10 ball over with bouncer against Jimmy triggered every Englishmen in the team). Joe Root also joined the bowler and gave them freedom to attack specially against Bumrah, they even opened the field and 7 fielders were sitting at boundary line. Here Bumrah-Shami took the advantage and went to score big partnership.  

LOL.. if this was what happened, then I feel sorry for the Brits. They allowed emotions to take over, and from a position where they had an advantage they went on to lose the match. Revenge against Bumrah should be taken against Kohli, because he was the mastermind from the Indian side. And it was not something that should be considered when the outcome of the match remains at knife's edge. I have ridiculed Kohli's tactics for many years. But I need to admit that in this case he did the right thing.
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England team lost the track when they started with the bouncer tactics and more importantly they were looking for revenge against Bumrah and Shami instead of getting their wickets. (Bumrah 10 ball over with bouncer against Jimmy triggered every Englishmen in the team). Joe Root also joined the bowler and gave them freedom to attack specially against Bumrah, they even opened the field and 7 fielders were sitting at boundary line. Here Bumrah-Shami took the advantage and went to score big partnership.  

LOL.. if this was what happened, then I feel sorry for the Brits. They allowed emotions to take over, and from a position where they had an advantage they went on to lose the match. Revenge against Bumrah should be taken against Kohli, because he was the mastermind from the Indian side. And it was not something that should be considered when the outcome of the match remains at knife's edge. I have ridiculed Kohli's tactics for many years. But I need to admit that in this case he did the right thing.
Yeah..

At start every commentator on microphone was jumping on England's tactics and giggling but started ranting against Jimmy and Root when Bumrah-Shami crossed the 50 runs partnership. During last wickets i switched the steaming Sky to Sony and damn Sunil Gavaskar was in very good form, he was pissing on everyone lol.   

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The series is not yet over and three test matches remain. If Indians get overconfident, then they will end up losing the series. The weather seems to be improved in England and it won't be impossible for the hosts to win the series by a margin of 2-1 or 3-1. And trust me, this has happened to the Indians manytimes before. And apart from Rahul and Rohit, none of the Indian batsmen are in good form. The victory in the second match temporarily took the focus away from the poor form of Pujara, Rahane, Kohli and Pant.
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The series is not yet over and three test matches remain. If Indians get overconfident, then they will end up losing the series. The weather seems to be improved in England and it won't be impossible for the hosts to win the series by a margin of 2-1 or 3-1. And trust me, this has happened to the Indians manytimes before. And apart from Rahul and Rohit, none of the Indian batsmen are in good form. The victory in the second match temporarily took the focus away from the poor form of Pujara, Rahane, Kohli and Pant.

You are right. If the Indian players are more confident, they will lose the series. It is not easy to win against them in England. In the previous match, England's batting collapsed in a very bad way so India won. There is no reason to think that something like that will happen in the next match too. The England management must have realized their mistakes and will take appropriate action to correct them.

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You are right. If the Indian players are more confident, they will lose the series. It is not easy to win against them in England. In the previous match, England's batting collapsed in a very bad way so India won. There is no reason to think that something like that will happen in the next match too. The England management must have realized their mistakes and will take appropriate action to correct them.

I don't have much hope for the England batsmen. Apart from Joe Root, none of them are able to handle the Indian bowlers. However, their bowlers are in good form and I am sure that they have learnt their lesson during the second test. Things are not going to get easy for the Indian batsmen, especially given the fact that players like Pujara and Rahane have been in very poor form for a long time now. And I still believe that without the 90 run partnership between Shami and Bumrah, India would have lost the second match.

When Ishant got out, India were at 209/8 (lead of 182 runs). If the target was less than 200, then England would have chased it with relative ease.
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August 18, 2021, 03:37:49 PM
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You are right. If the Indian players are more confident, they will lose the series. It is not easy to win against them in England. In the previous match, England's batting collapsed in a very bad way so India won. There is no reason to think that something like that will happen in the next match too. The England management must have realized their mistakes and will take appropriate action to correct them.

I don't have much hope for the England batsmen. Apart from Joe Root, none of them are able to handle the Indian bowlers. However, their bowlers are in good form and I am sure that they have learnt their lesson during the second test. Things are not going to get easy for the Indian batsmen, especially given the fact that players like Pujara and Rahane have been in very poor form for a long time now. And I still believe that without the 90 run partnership between Shami and Bumrah, India would have lost the second match.

When Ishant got out, India were at 209/8 (lead of 182 runs). If the target was less than 200, then England would have chased it with relative ease.

I agree with you that England's batsmen are not in good form. But I don't think the Indian batsmen are playing very well. You are right, India would not have won if Shami and Bumrah had not made the necessary partnership. Batsmen are having a lot of trouble to run regularly on this pitch. The previous match was competitive. The next match will also be competitive too. It is difficult to say which team will win.

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