Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[JSRAW]

India pulling things back into their favor quite nicely. Runs are not coming easy for the kiwis and they lost 3 quick wickets after Will Young who batted beautifully throughout his inning, unlucky that he didn't get his first ton. Kiwis should reach the 300 mark easily, despite 4 wickets down cause Latham still there and they have quality all rounders down the order.

On the other hand there is another kind of competition going on between Axar and Ashwin for the wickets.

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Latham is gone! 5 runs short of his century, poor guy. Axar got his 3rd wicket.

[Marvell1]

^ Newzealand should reach 300 as they still have three wickets left but I think that even then when India comes to bat they will start their innings with a lead. But the lead should really be small like 30 or 40 runs. I think Newzealand should really stay in the pitch and get as many times as possible. Latham was really unlucky to miss his hundred. Indian bowlers are really making it hard for New Zealand.

[pakhitheboss]

India pulling things back into their favor quite nicely. Runs are not coming easy for the kiwis and they lost 3 quick wickets after Will Young who batted beautifully throughout his inning, unlucky that he didn't get his first ton. Kiwis should reach the 300 mark easily, despite 4 wickets down cause Latham still there and they have quality all rounders down the order.

On the other hand there is another kind of competition going on between Axar and Ashwin for the wickets.

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Latham is gone! 5 runs short of his century, poor guy. Axar got his 3rd wicket.

The match has changed completely now NZ has lost 8 wickets and I do not think they will last till the end of the day. I was expecting Young to score his 100 but it seems he was pretty much struggling today. From India's side, Axar Patel took 5 wickets and he is the person responsible for the debacle of NZ batting. Good comeback by the India team

[Minor Miner]

I am saying 500 runs for Bangladesh because this is their only chance. They won't be able to score big in the 2nd innings and if Bangladesh score under 350 runs, then Pakistan can still win it.

Why do they need 500? Underestimating the Bangladesh bowlers? Shakib is not playing, but they do have some very good spinners. And don't forget the fact that Pakistan is batting second, and in all probability they will be batting during the 4th and 5th days of this match. BTW, Liton Das has got out. Hasan Ali got his man, finally. Right now Bangladesh is at 255/5. They may end up somewhere between 300-350. If they could take the total to 350-400, then there is a chance. Else Pakistan will be having the advantage.

Not under estimating the Bangladesh bowlers but i have confidence in the Pakistani batsmen. After the partnership was broken at 255 runs, Bangladesh only made 80 more runs and they were all out at 330. They unable to capitalize on that partnership.
Also pakistani batsmen are good players of spin so this may also help them tackle the Bangladesh spinners.

The partnership between Musfiqur Rahim and Liton das was really good. But after them, Bangladesh really could not capitalize on that weak partnership and make a real big score that was expected after that. I thought that they were good to make at least 400. But the middle order and late order just collapsed.
Currently, Pakistan is batting and they are really dominating the Bangladeshi bowlers. They haven't lost any wicket and scored 104 runs already.

[mm2543363580]

The match has changed completely now NZ has lost 8 wickets and I do not think they will last till the end of the day. I was expecting Young to score his 100 but it seems he was pretty much struggling today. From India's side, Axar Patel took 5 wickets and he is the person responsible for the debacle of NZ batting. Good comeback by the India team

Typical test match behavior of subcontinent. In there first inning both NZ and Bangladesh were so good and established but they were not able to capitalize there overnight strength.  NZ were hundred for zero overnight but seems like they will fell short of India 345 runs. Meanwhile Pakistan is looking strong in reply to Bangladesh 330. But anything can happen tomorrow with Pakistan batting, so better score as much as they can today.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Whaaatt the helllll..........Newzeland lost their first wicket at 151 runs, and lost 2nd wicket at 197runs. After collecting 73 runs, they lost the remaining 6 wickets. New Zealand lost 8 wickets for 280 runs. Apart from the opening two batsmen, no other batsman has been able to play well. New Zealand will lose all their wickets before collecting 345 runs. I would be happy if New Zealand lost this Test. They do not deserve to win or draw a match with such a poor performance.

[Haunebu]

The match has changed completely now NZ has lost 8 wickets and I do not think they will last till the end of the day. I was expecting Young to score his 100 but it seems he was pretty much struggling today. From India's side, Axar Patel took 5 wickets and he is the person responsible for the debacle of NZ batting. Good comeback by the India team

NZ collapsed like a pack of cards after an amazing opening stand. It seemed like they would provide a lead at one point, but they buckled under pressure and I am expecting them to trail India by 30-40 runs.

India struggled against the pacers(Southee and Jamieson) while NZ struggled against the spinners(Axar Patel) in the first innings.

Honestly, I didn't really expect a draw, but that seems like the most realistic outcome at this point considering everything unless the Indian team collapse and end up giving NZ the advantage in this match.

[BALIK]

Whaaatt the helllll..........Newzeland lost their first wicket at 151 runs, and lost 2nd wicket at 197runs. After collecting 73 runs, they lost the remaining 6 wickets. New Zealand lost 8 wickets for 280 runs. Apart from the opening two batsmen, no other batsman has been able to play well. New Zealand will lose all their wickets before collecting 345 runs. I would be happy if New Zealand lost this Test. They do not deserve to win or draw a match with such a poor performance.

My doubt is whether New Zealand will be able to collect 300 runs. They lost one more wicket. They lost their ninth wicket for 284 runs. Now William Somerville and Ajaz Patel is at the crease. They can't bat well. Axar Patel bowled brilliantly today. He has taken 5 wickets. However, with today's third day of play underway, the match is most likely to be a draw.

[kro55]

Whaaatt the helllll..........Newzeland lost their first wicket at 151 runs, and lost 2nd wicket at 197runs. After collecting 73 runs, they lost the remaining 6 wickets. New Zealand lost 8 wickets for 280 runs. Apart from the opening two batsmen, no other batsman has been able to play well. New Zealand will lose all their wickets before collecting 345 runs. I would be happy if New Zealand lost this Test. They do not deserve to win or draw a match with such a poor performance.

My doubt is whether New Zealand will be able to collect 300 runs. They lost one more wicket. They lost their ninth wicket for 284 runs. Now William Somerville and Ajaz Patel is at the crease. They can't bat well. Axar Patel bowled brilliantly today. He has taken 5 wickets. However, with today's third day of play underway, the match is most likely to be a draw.

With 49 runs behind India, New Zealand lost all their wickets. The first two batsmen scored 184 runs and the remaining 8 batsmen scored 112 runs. No New Zealand fan expected such a catastrophic disaster. I thought that the New Zealand team will be at least 150 runs ahead of India. However, in the second innings, if we do not see a team batting disaster, then the match will be a draw.

[laurenB7742]

Whaaatt the helllll..........Newzeland lost their first wicket at 151 runs, and lost 2nd wicket at 197runs. After collecting 73 runs, they lost the remaining 6 wickets. New Zealand lost 8 wickets for 280 runs. Apart from the opening two batsmen, no other batsman has been able to play well. New Zealand will lose all their wickets before collecting 345 runs. I would be happy if New Zealand lost this Test. They do not deserve to win or draw a match with such a poor performance.

My doubt is whether New Zealand will be able to collect 300 runs. They lost one more wicket. They lost their ninth wicket for 284 runs. Now William Somerville and Ajaz Patel is at the crease. They can't bat well. Axar Patel bowled brilliantly today. He has taken 5 wickets. However, with today's third day of play underway, the match is most likely to be a draw.

With 49 runs behind India, New Zealand lost all their wickets. The first two batsmen scored 184 runs and the remaining 8 batsmen scored 112 runs. No New Zealand fan expected such a catastrophic disaster. I thought that the New Zealand team will be at least 150 runs ahead of India. However, in the second innings, if we do not see a team batting disaster, then the match will be a draw.

India went down to bat and lost one of their key batsmen by just two runs. Shubman Gill returned to the dressing room with just 1 run. In the first innings, he played a crucial innings of 52 runs. So I thought he would do well in the second innings. And today India will not lose any wicket. At the end of the third day, India 14/1. India is leading by  63 runs.

[mm2543363580]

My doubt is whether New Zealand will be able to collect 300 runs. They lost one more wicket. They lost their ninth wicket for 284 runs. Now William Somerville and Ajaz Patel is at the crease. They can't bat well. Axar Patel bowled brilliantly today. He has taken 5 wickets. However, with today's third day of play underway, the match is most likely to be a draw.

They were 4 runs short of 300 and india has now lead of 51 runs. The match is now very much interesting, if India can play score 350 runs till second session of forth day and allow NZ to play one session of forth day plus fifth complete day then India has very much chance of winning the match IMO. NZ are very much out of the game now.

[JSRAW]

Almost everyone say that test cricket is tough but 2 new guys Axar Patel and Kyle Jamieson are having amazing time when playing red ball cricket and if you ask them then they might end up saying nah, its pretty easy.  

Axar Patel : Playing his 4th test match and already took 32 wickets with 5 fifers.
Kyle Jamieson : 9th match and touched 50 wickets, fastest NZ bowler to take 50 wickets.

[Sithara007]

Almost everyone say that test cricket is tough but 2 new guys Axar Patel and Kyle Jamieson are having amazing time when playing red ball cricket and if you ask them then they might end up saying nah, its pretty easy.  

Axar Patel : Playing his 4th test match and already took 32 wickets with 5 fifers.
Kyle Jamieson : 9th match and touched 50 wickets, fastest NZ bowler to take 50 wickets.

Axar Patel played all of his matches in the minefields of sub-continent, which supports spin bowling. His 4 test matches were played in - Chennai, Ahmedabad (x2) and Kanpur. I am not denying the fact that Jamieson also played most of his matches in SENA region, but he has played against tough opposition all the time. He is yet to play any test matches against weaker teams like Sri Lanka or Bangladesh. Don't know.. but I would be rather cautious before claiming that Axar is a better bowler. Let's see how he performs outside India.

[Mahdirakib]

Whaaatt the helllll..........Newzeland lost their first wicket at 151 runs, and lost 2nd wicket at 197runs. After collecting 73 runs, they lost the remaining 6 wickets. New Zealand lost 8 wickets for 280 runs. Apart from the opening two batsmen, no other batsman has been able to play well. New Zealand will lose all their wickets before collecting 345 runs. I would be happy if New Zealand lost this Test. They do not deserve to win or draw a match with such a poor performance.

Great comeback from Indian bowlers. I thought New Zealand will be able to take a big lead in the first innings, but all of their batsman failed to make a good runs except the two openers. Now the match is again in the control of India. Although they lost an early wicket in the second innings, but they have the ability to set a good target. Everything will depend on the Indian bowlers in the second innings. Tomorrow is the fourth day of this test, and this game may end with the drama of final day.

[JSRAW]

Almost everyone say that test cricket is tough but 2 new guys Axar Patel and Kyle Jamieson are having amazing time when playing red ball cricket and if you ask them then they might end up saying nah, its pretty easy.  

Axar Patel : Playing his 4th test match and already took 32 wickets with 5 fifers.
Kyle Jamieson : 9th match and touched 50 wickets, fastest NZ bowler to take 50 wickets.

Axar Patel played all of his matches in the minefields of sub-continent, which supports spin bowling. His 4 test matches were played in - Chennai, Ahmedabad (x2) and Kanpur. I am not denying the fact that Jamieson also played most of his matches in SENA region, but he has played against tough opposition all the time. He is yet to play any test matches against weaker teams like Sri Lanka or Bangladesh. Don't know.. but I would be rather cautious before claiming that Axar is a better bowler. Let's see how he performs outside India.

So going by this logic we should also discard CTB Turner's achievement? (Fastest bowler to reach 50 wickets mark - 6 match) All played in England and Australia, way back in 1888. Old timer

Let's go by modern standard. In modern times quickest bowler to reach 50 wickets is Vernon Philander (7 match). He also took all wickets at SENA condition, 1 opponent was Sri Lanka. Speaking of spin friendly wicket, you might want to check legendary spinner Shane Warne record in India particular. You might lose respect for him after checking his numbers.

I can go on this list for like 1 full page but i hope you got the point. If we're following this logic then Don Bradman is also average batter because he never batted in Subcontinent and virtually never faced a quality spinner in spin friendly wickets.

Coming back to your tough opposition and minefield argument. Seems biased opinion to me because for some weird reason SENA countries fast friendly pitches are considered good and spin friendly wickets in subcontinent are considered bad.

BTW Kyle Jamison only played at NZ and England only (including 2 match each against Pakistan and WI, ended up with 26 wickets in 4 games). This is his first game in India.
Axar Patel played against only England at home (3 tests) and NZ is the second team.



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[7788bitcoin]

Great comeback from Indian bowlers. I thought New Zealand will be able to take a big lead in the first innings, but all of their batsman failed to make a good runs except the two openers. Now the match is again in the control of India. Although they lost an early wicket in the second innings, but they have the ability to set a good target. Everything will depend on the Indian bowlers in the second innings. Tomorrow is the fourth day of this test, and this game may end with the drama of final day.

I expected New Zealand to score big and possibly get a first innings lead, but the spinners halted the momentum and they were able to restrict New Zealand by picking up wickets at constant intervals and now it is the turn for New Zealand to bowl well and restrict India as anything more than 250 runs will be difficult to chase for New Zealand with the spinners they have.

[GbitG]

Great comeback from Indian bowlers. I thought New Zealand will be able to take a big lead in the first innings, but all of their batsman failed to make a good runs except the two openers. Now the match is again in the control of India. Although they lost an early wicket in the second innings, but they have the ability to set a good target. Everything will depend on the Indian bowlers in the second innings. Tomorrow is the fourth day of this test, and this game may end with the drama of final day.

I expected New Zealand to score big and possibly get a first innings lead, but the spinners halted the momentum and they were able to restrict New Zealand by picking up wickets at constant intervals and now it is the turn for New Zealand to bowl well and restrict India as anything more than 250 runs will be difficult to chase for New Zealand with the spinners they have.

New Zealand was good, but this collapse was expected because India playing with 3 spinners at home mean something going to happen against opponent there was some resistance but as Axer and Ashwin started they give no chance to anyone for having some stay at crease now last day is New Zealand again on this pitch mean they have to be in serious trouble tomorrow first session is very important if India able to have some good runs without losing quick wickets then it's all end for visitors 270 to 300 is surely going to be winning target for them on this pitch with one day is enough for spinners to clean up them.

[eaLiTy]

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That's what we call a true champion bowler. What an outstanding performance from Axar Patel. What a superb effort for his fourth test. Axar Patel's performance surprised me and I had no idea India would come back this way. In the end, India's bowlers did a great job as they limited New Zealand under 300, now India in the driving seat.

Axar Patel only played 3 Test matches before this and he performed exceptionally well in those opportunities picking up 27 wickets at an average of 10.59 and in this match he picked up another 5 wickets in the first innings and expect him to pick wickets in the second innings as well as the pitch will help the spinners more.

With the opening partnership New Zealand had i thought they would reach a good total, but now the game has skipped them as it will be difficult for them to bat in the last innings with three spinners India is having.

[Haunebu]

New Zealand messed up big-time after that huge first innings partnership. The Indian spinners dismantled them and India is already leading by 63 runs though they lost Gill early which is a setback for them.

Jamieson and Southee are the key bowlers to watch out for. If India manage a lead of 200+ runs, this game will either end as a draw or India winning. Let's see if NZ can turn this one around.

[ene1980]

New Zealand messed up big-time after that huge first innings partnership. The Indian spinners dismantled them and India is already leading by 63 runs though they lost Gill early which is a setback for them.

Jamieson and Southee are the key bowlers to watch out for. If India manage a lead of 200+ runs, this game will either end as a draw or India winning. Let's see if NZ can turn this one around.

The spinners were able to dominate the third day and if India scores above 200 runs then there is no way New Zealand will be able to face Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja and Axar Patel in the final two days. Prepared spin wickets resting all the main players and it looks like a good plan as they already wanted to give rest to their main players and still win the match .