ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[coinism]

I don't think the cricket in the world needs T10 right now, even if it is needed you should be way into the future where almost nobody has enough time to watch cricket for even three hours. I really don't think t10 is going to require too much skill as everyone will just go and smash the ball.

right now the T20 format is alright and one-day internationals are a good mix of skill and smashing. but I do think that if  ICC wants a lot more teams to play cricket they really need to promote t20.

T10 is not a recommended format at international level, its fine if someone wanna adopt that at league level. T20 format is similar to football in terms of time it take to complete the game. New countries will join ICC only in T20 format as history shows that world is certainly not interested in odi nor in test.

[JSRAW]

You got it so right. Its very hard to spare a.complete day for ODI and impossible if you have a job to spare 5 days for test match. Back in 90s life was not that busy so we can spare time for ODI and test back then. T20 held at night are best to watch and enjoy. May be we have T10 taking over T20 in coming days.

Big fan of T20 format here. But still I would say that T10 is not my cup of tea. When you have 11 players in each of the teams, 10 overs is just too little. That is just around 5 balls per player. I just hope that we refrain from further reducing the duration. T20 match lasts for 3 hrs on average, and that is fine with me. Slightly longer when compared to average football match, but it is tolerable. T10 needs a few changes to its format. If we want to make T10 more interesting, then there should be only 6 players per side. You can't have a 10 over match with 11 players on each team. 

I don't think the cricket in the world needs T10 right now, even if it is needed you should be way into the future where almost nobody has enough time to watch cricket for even three hours. I really don't think t10 is going to require too much skill as everyone will just go and smash the ball.

right now the T20 format is alright and one-day internationals are a good mix of skill and smashing. but I do think that if  ICC wants a lot more teams to play cricket they really need to promote t20.

I'm also not a big fan of T-10 in international arena but at the same time T-10 types of tournaments are ridiculously famous in Gully/local cricket. I'm sure 99% of fans grew up playing such type of 10-12-15 overs matches, i know i did.

So may be T-10 doesn't have any place right now but i do see some space for this format in future.

[galambo]

I'm also not a big fan of T-10 in international arena but at the same time T-10 types of tournaments are ridiculously famous in Gully/local cricket. I'm sure 99% of fans grew up playing such type of 10-12-15 overs matches, i know i did.

So may be T-10 doesn't have any place right now but i do see some space for this format in future.

We even used to play T5 when we were child with some interesting rules like anyone who miss two deliveries will be out.  In countries like Pakistan,  India and Bangladesh kids used to play such shorter format until they grow up to club level. T10 or less is popular among Gully cricket there are rear chances it will make it to international level.

[minairia3]

I'm also not a big fan of T-10 in international arena but at the same time T-10 types of tournaments are ridiculously famous in Gully/local cricket. I'm sure 99% of fans grew up playing such type of 10-12-15 overs matches, i know i did.

So may be T-10 doesn't have any place right now but i do see some space for this format in future.

T10 can be a great thing for cricket but the time is not right for it. if something like this actually is introduced there will be a lot of criticism and it will be bad for T20 cricket which is pulling off a lot more revenue than the other formats in my opinion. so as long as T20 is doing well I don't think there is any reason for T10 to be introduced in the cricketing world.

I don't think the cricket in the world needs T10 right now, even if it is needed you should be way into the future where almost nobody has enough time to watch cricket for even three hours. I really don't think t10 is going to require too much skill as everyone will just go and smash the ball.
right now the T20 format is alright and one-day internationals are a good mix of skill and smashing. but I do think that if  ICC wants a lot more teams to play cricket they really need to promote t20.

T10 is not a recommended format at international level, its fine if someone wanna adopt that at league level. T20 format is similar to football in terms of time it take to complete the game. New countries will join ICC only in T20 format as history shows that world is certainly not interested in odi nor in test.

Actually, people are busy with their work right now and simply don't have enough time to see ODI or test cricket for the full match. so T20 is the best option right now for people that are busy in their life but still want to enjoy good cricket. T20 is also generating the most revenue in cricket and it is also a lot popular. so at this moment, there is no reason to introduce T10 and reduce the popularity of T20. I really think in the future T20 will be the best format of cricket so there is no reason of introducing any shorter format and taking away its popularity and potential.

[dezoel]

I'm also not a big fan of T-10 in international arena but at the same time T-10 types of tournaments are ridiculously famous in Gully/local cricket. I'm sure 99% of fans grew up playing such type of 10-12-15 overs matches, i know i did.

So may be T-10 doesn't have any place right now but i do see some space for this format in future.

Few decades back no one were thinking about T20 but now it's very important format of cricket just because of time hopefully we will have this T10 in our official list after 10 to 15 years because in near future many things going to change, and we will have very short time for watching sports like soccer basketball and hockey, so this will also take his position and more peoples will love this format because most chances ODI will be wiped up, and we will go from five days to just T20 and T10 leagues with one all day is spending for cricket is having some very bad impact on these youths.

And with these two format most chances we will have mega events like World Cup and Champion's Trophy with more than 24 teams because many countries will love to adopt these formats and these also have some good charm for youths.

[mm2543363580]

Actually, people are busy with their work right now and simply don't have enough time to see ODI or test cricket for the full match. so T20 is the best option right now for people that are busy in their life but still want to enjoy good cricket. T20 is also generating the most revenue in cricket and it is also a lot popular. so at this moment, there is no reason to introduce T10 and reduce the popularity of T20. I really think in the future T20 will be the best format of cricket so there is no reason of introducing any shorter format and taking away its popularity and potential.

Agreed - people have so many choices and there is so much everyone is going through that they hardly find time to encourage young players around.
But having said - maybe this kind of tournament would bring forth some young gems. Hope everyone gets their right wishes fulfilled.

[Sithara007]

I don't think the cricket in the world needs T10 right now, even if it is needed you should be way into the future where almost nobody has enough time to watch cricket for even three hours. I really don't think t10 is going to require too much skill as everyone will just go and smash the ball.

right now the T20 format is alright and one-day internationals are a good mix of skill and smashing. but I do think that if  ICC wants a lot more teams to play cricket they really need to promote t20.

Yeah... T10 requires only one skill. It will be repetitive and in the long run people will lose interest. There should be an incentive for keeping the wickets. Right now in T10, the teams can afford to lose up to 10 wickets in 60 balls. So they don't try not to get out. If the number of batsmen are reduced to 5 or 6, then they won't be having this freedom and we will see a mix of power hitting and good strategy.

And then regarding the second point, the ICC should get cricket included in the Olympics if they really want to promote the sport. They had an opportunity in 2008, but they wasted it. And even now, I am not witnessing much of an interest from the ICC regarding this topic.

[pakhitheboss]

I'm also not a big fan of T-10 in international arena but at the same time T-10 types of tournaments are ridiculously famous in Gully/local cricket. I'm sure 99% of fans grew up playing such type of 10-12-15 overs matches, i know i did.

So may be T-10 doesn't have any place right now but i do see some space for this format in future.

We even used to play T5 when we were child with some interesting rules like anyone who miss two deliveries will be out.  In countries like Pakistan,  India and Bangladesh kids used to play such shorter format until they grow up to club level. T10 or less is popular among Gully cricket there are rear chances it will make it to international level.

Never played T5 in my childhood but I remember a few interesting rules wherein one tip one hand catch was a rule and no sixes but only fours will be counted. Those rules were created as we played street cricket and we never wanted neighbors coming out and banning our cricket match because we shattered their windows. I still miss those days.   

I do not think T10 will get as hype as T20 got because T10 is too short as a cricket format. A batsmen's main aim here is to just hit the boundary and there is nothing left for bowlers to prove in this format.

[sovie]

Never played T5 in my childhood but I remember a few interesting rules wherein one tip one hand catch was a rule and no sixes but only fours will be counted. Those rules were created as we played street cricket and we never wanted neighbors coming out and banning our cricket match because we shattered their windows. I still miss those days.   

I do not think T10 will get as hype as T20 got because T10 is too short as a cricket format. A batsmen's main aim here is to just hit the boundary and there is nothing left for bowlers to prove in this format.

We used to play best of 3 or 5 in evening during our childhood. One rule which I remember if someone hit the ball in Nali ( Street drainage) then batsmen will be responsible for cleaning of the ball. Those were golden days of life when there was zero tension and life was just about having fun.

[minairia3]

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Yeah... T10 requires only one skill. It will be repetitive and in the long run people will lose interest. There should be an incentive for keeping the wickets. Right now in T10, the teams can afford to lose up to 10 wickets in 60 balls. So they don't try not to get out. If the number of batsmen are reduced to 5 or 6, then they won't be having this freedom and we will see a mix of power hitting and good strategy.

And then regarding the second point, the ICC should get cricket included in the Olympics if they really want to promote the sport. They had an opportunity in 2008, but they wasted it. And even now, I am not witnessing much of an interest from the ICC regarding this topic.

Yes, I think this might be a good idea if the number of batsmen are reduced to 6 and it is only a game of 5 wickets. that will surely have some skill to play. But I don't think cricket needs that right now because as you said T10 might be the format where everyone will just try to hit the ball out of the park and it might become a sport where we will see a lot more  bodybuilders instead of cricketers

And ICC really does not seem that interested in promoting cricket otherwise I think it is a big enough sport to be included in the Olympics by now. all we hear about cricket being in the Olympics is just the date being postponed.

[bitgov]

Yes, I think this might be a good idea if the number of batsmen are reduced to 6 and it is only a game of 5 wickets. that will surely have some skill to play. But I don't think cricket needs that right now because as you said T10 might be the format where everyone will just try to hit the ball out of the park and it might become a sport where we will see a lot more  bodybuilders instead of cricketers

And ICC really does not seem that interested in promoting cricket otherwise I think it is a big enough sport to be included in the Olympics by now. all we hear about cricket being in the Olympics is just the date being postponed.

I remember there is a double wicket tournament in 90s in Pakistan where every team has only 2 players while fielders are neutral. Fielders are paid dollars for every catch they take. Teams from all countries participate in that double wicket.
I think T20 is good enough and reducing further will only damage the game of cricket.

[coinism]

Yeah... T10 requires only one skill. It will be repetitive and in the long run people will lose interest. There should be an incentive for keeping the wickets. Right now in T10, the teams can afford to lose up to 10 wickets in 60 balls. So they don't try not to get out. If the number of batsmen are reduced to 5 or 6, then they won't be having this freedom and we will see a mix of power hitting and good strategy.

And then regarding the second point, the ICC should get cricket included in the Olympics if they really want to promote the sport. They had an opportunity in 2008, but they wasted it. And even now, I am not witnessing much of an interest from the ICC regarding this topic.

AFAIK, there is only one league in Dubai that has adopted T20 format. Rest I don't think there is popular league that has adopted this format.

ICC is planning to bid for 2028 Los Angeles, 2032 Brisbane Games and beyond. But the main point is still there are 6 to 8 good teams rear are all associate teams. Without raising level of cricket of participating teams it will be a disaster. See the last T20 WC, Games played bw strong and associate teams were of zero interest.

[7788bitcoin]

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I remember there is a double wicket tournament in 90s in Pakistan where every team has only 2 players while fielders are neutral. Fielders are paid dollars for every catch they take. Teams from all countries participate in that double wicket.
I think T20 is good enough and reducing further will only damage the game of cricket.

Can you explain what this double wicket tournament is all about, i was not able to find any article regarding this. I really liked the T20 version, if not i doubt i would be watching Cricket as i considered it as a long format to have the patience to watch the matches earlier but the introduction of T20 and the advent of cryptocurrency based gambling sites helped in learning the game. I am not a fan of T10 because it is hard to predict, even T20 is hard to predict and hence i doubt i will be watching anything that is shorter than T20.

[bitgov]

Can you explain what this double wicket tournament is all about, i was not able to find any article regarding this. I really liked the T20 version, if not i doubt i would be watching Cricket as i considered it as a long format to have the patience to watch the matches earlier but the introduction of T20 and the advent of cryptocurrency based gambling sites helped in learning the game. I am not a fan of T10 because it is hard to predict, even T20 is hard to predict and hence i doubt i will be watching anything that is shorter than T20.

Double wicket was introduced in 90s by PCB. Each team has only 2 players and only they bat and bowl, for fielding each team has 9 players apart from 2 players of team. If a player gets out, minus ten runs were added to score. It was very interesting and no more organized by PCB. You can see these matches on youtube

[minairia3]

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I remember there is a double wicket tournament in 90s in Pakistan where every team has only 2 players while fielders are neutral. Fielders are paid dollars for every catch they take. Teams from all countries participate in that double wicket.
I think T20 is good enough and reducing further will only damage the game of cricket.

Can you explain what this double wicket tournament is all about, i was not able to find any article regarding this. I really liked the T20 version, if not i doubt i would be watching Cricket as i considered it as a long format to have the patience to watch the matches earlier but the introduction of T20 and the advent of cryptocurrency based gambling sites helped in learning the game. I am not a fan of T10 because it is hard to predict, even T20 is hard to predict and hence i doubt i will be watching anything that is shorter than T20.

I have no idea about what this double-wicket is but what I can surely say is that cricket might have lost a lot of its popularity if the T20 format was not introduced to people. People right now like fast-paced cricket and T20 cricket certainly gave them that option. and there was a time when if a team needed 6 runs from 7 or 8 balls it was considered to be good for the bowling side but now the same situation surely favors the batting site even though they have only two wickets in hand.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

I have no idea about what this double-wicket is but what I can surely say is that cricket might have lost a lot of its popularity if the T20 format was not introduced to people. People right now like fast-paced cricket and T20 cricket certainly gave them that option. and there was a time when if a team needed 6 runs from 7 or 8 balls it was considered to be good for the bowling side but now the same situation surely favors the batting site even though they have only two wickets in hand.

There is no doubt that future of cricket lies in T20 format. With so many leagues going on around the world, its now impossible to stay away from this format. Test and ODI can be carried out in bilateral series. One thing is very clear that no new country will join test or ODI format since it takes so much time for completion. 

[Sithara007]

There is no doubt that future of cricket lies in T20 format. With so many leagues going on around the world, its now impossible to stay away from this format. Test and ODI can be carried out in bilateral series. One thing is very clear that no new country will join test or ODI format since it takes so much time for completion. 

There are only 4 teams that are competitive in test format. When a lower ranking test side such as Sri Lanka or Bangladesh plays against one of the big-4 sides, it almost always result in a mismatch. And the less talked about the associates, that better. 1-2 decades back, this was not the case. Even teams such as South Africa and West Indies used to be very competitive in this format. They had players who are tailor-made for test format such as Hashim Amla, Dale Steyn and Shivnarine Chanderpaul. We no longer get to watch any such players outside the Big-4 nowadays.

[doomloop]

Can you explain what this double wicket tournament is all about, i was not able to find any article regarding this. I really liked the T20 version, if not i doubt i would be watching Cricket as i considered it as a long format to have the patience to watch the matches earlier but the introduction of T20 and the advent of cryptocurrency based gambling sites helped in learning the game. I am not a fan of T10 because it is hard to predict, even T20 is hard to predict and hence i doubt i will be watching anything that is shorter than T20.

I can give you some explanation about this because I personally involved in this for many years and enjoy too much this is mostly played in streets, and sometimes we have tournaments in big grounds it's all like we have Super Sixes in Hong Kong but here just two batsmen allowed for batting throughout format like four overs or six overs and every time you lost your wicket -10 or -5 cut from your scorecard.

But, you're allowed to play all your overs after this they calculate and if you are in plus then this set as target for other team and if you are in minus then still you are in match because you are also have chance for bowled out other teams in minus this was very interesting time but now recently due to some domestic issues mostly peoples forget about this format and replaced by these T5 and T10 which are still very popular.

[sovie]

There are only 4 teams that are competitive in test format. When a lower ranking test side such as Sri Lanka or Bangladesh plays against one of the big-4 sides, it almost always result in a mismatch. And the less talked about the associates, that better. 1-2 decades back, this was not the case. Even teams such as South Africa and West Indies used to be very competitive in this format. They had players who are tailor-made for test format such as Hashim Amla, Dale Steyn and Shivnarine Chanderpaul. We no longer get to watch any such players outside the Big-4 nowadays.

You were referring to post T20 era, yes at that time test and odi was what cricket is all about. Players were made from scratch for test. Now T20 is what cricket is about and sadly in T20 there is no technique. Its all about your luck in T20, thats why players like Hardik Pandya are so successful in T20.

[Sithara007]

You were referring to post T20 era, yes at that time test and odi was what cricket is all about. Players were made from scratch for test. Now T20 is what cricket is about and sadly in T20 there is no technique. Its all about your luck in T20, thats why players like Hardik Pandya are so successful in T20.

Well.. even now we have players such as Steve Smith, Ajinkya Rahane and Cheteswar Pujara who are test specialists. But the big money is with T20 format, because nowadays hardly anyone have enough spare time to watch test matches live. You can always argue that if someone wants to learn the techniques of the game, then they should watch test cricket. That may be true. But what most of the fans expect is entertainment and not some technical training session. And that is why players such as Kieron Pollard, Hardik Pandya and Andre Russell are so popular.