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[othell_rogue]

I had no issue with the validation this time. My only issue is that the node is going offline a lot in the past couple of days. I use the same VPS, but something is going on since the last update (0.21.1) anyone else have the same problem? Maybe the VPS requirement have changed meanwhile. Or something..

Did you delete ipfs folder after update as was said in Telegram Announcment?

I've noticed few weeks ago that my IDENA total folder were like 10 GB+ and ipfs had 90% of this weight ) So now I am deleting this IPFS after each validation and Node Sync pretty fast btw, it takes like 15 min and you don't even need to stop staking.

10+ GB is a lot. I didn't noticed the size of the folder (didn't checked it tbh) but it makes sense. Now it seems the node is stable, so looks like the problem was the IPFS folder which I don't know what have to do with the node, but it seems that had something to do.

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[Tytanowy Janusz]

Another failed validation by buggy software and this complaint will go unanswered.

Passed validation without any problems, even all keywords are loaded and as I remember it is only for the second time for me.

Same here. It was my 31 validation on one account and 12 on second and i've never had an issue despite epoch 46 when 50% of network failed. It has to be on your site.

Do you want us to try and troubleshoot the problem and find a solution?
Best if we move to some chat, so we can communicate faster. Telegram or discord or something else.

That's the best you can do. Fuding wont help.

[iHodler]

anyone have an invite to give away? thanks!

[Flangler]

anyone have an invite to give away? thanks!

I have, by the way, I encourage people to take part in voting regardless of penalties for bad flips.

[realRioda]

For the users who don't use Telegram

Dear Idena community,

We invite you to participate in the Idena Flip Penalty Vote to help the Idena team decide whether the current flip penalty system needs to be changed: https://idenapoll.com/poll/WfpWH8_

The options are:

A. Keeping the current system of penalties. One reported flip = loss of all rewards from validation.

B. One reported flip deducts 50% of rewards. Two or more reported flips lead to 100% rewards penalty.

The vote will be open for 60 days.

To be enacted, the vote requires 50% majority of validated identities (on either side of the vote, at the time it is reached). All suspended identities will be counted according to their previous state.

If 50% majority is not reached on either side the voting is considered invalid.

[lemonandfriesonetwo]

For the users who don't use Telegram

Dear Idena community,

We invite you to participate in the Idena Flip Penalty Vote to help the Idena team decide whether the current flip penalty system needs to be changed: https://idenapoll.com/poll/WfpWH8_

The options are:

A. Keeping the current system of penalties. One reported flip = loss of all rewards from validation.

B. One reported flip deducts 50% of rewards. Two or more reported flips lead to 100% rewards penalty.

The vote will be open for 60 days.

To be enacted, the vote requires 50% majority of validated identities (on either side of the vote, at the time it is reached). All suspended identities will be counted according to their previous state.

If 50% majority is not reached on either side the voting is considered invalid.

This is so pathetic, while you guys get all the rewards from all the invitations you send out.

USE YOUR DEV FUNDS (50% OF SUPPLY) TO FUND DEVELOPMENT NOT THE INVITATION REWARDS
STOP STEALING FROM FLIP CREATORS AND THOSE USERS WHO ISSUE INVITATIONS

[realRioda]

This is so pathetic, while you guys get all the rewards from all the invitations you send out.

USE YOUR DEV FUNDS (50% OF SUPPLY) TO FUND DEVELOPMENT NOT THE INVITATION REWARDS
STOP STEALING FROM FLIP CREATORS AND THOSE USERS WHO ISSUE INVITATIONS

Unfortunatly you are not well informed.

Rewards from the invitations they send, goes to members who spend their time teaching newcomers in Telegram Flip School.

Other funds from invitation have gone to reward community made projects:

Idena Ethereum Relay challenge
The $5k prize of this challenge goes to @henryfour

Sign-In with Idena challenge

First prize ($1.5k)
Idena Discord auth bot — a free Discord bot that links Idena identities with matching Discord roles

Second prize ($1k)
idenary.com — a game and art project built upon Idena

Third prizes ($500 each)
idena.vote — a customized polls website
idenapoll.com — a polling website guaranteeing the uniqueness of each vote and creating sybil-resistant polls
fairdrop.io — airdrops with the fairness they were supposed to have

Read more here:
https://medium.com/idena/idena-announces-the-winners-for-its-challenges-at-gitxchange-hackathon-7bf32495e01d

And no one is stealing anything, reported are reported for a reason and potential dna rewards are burned.

[Krucifer]

And no one is stealing anything, reported are reported for a reason and potential dna rewards are burned.

And this needs to be highlighted to prevent manipulation with facts.

[realRioda]

For people who are not on Telegram
https://t.me/IdenaAnnouncements/492

A new version of the Idena app is available: 0.13.1

Changes:
1. Collage tools for making flips. Read more:
https://medium.com/idena/how-to-use-collages-when-creating-a-flip-6bf7d703c0fc

2. Submitting and voting on keywords translations:
- Both submitting and voting are available only for validated identities
- Every validated user can submit only one translation per one keyword
- The best translations (with more than 4 up-votes) are to be shown during the validation session
- Translation API is available:
http://api.idena.io/translation/swagger/index.html

3. French translation update (by @Syd-ai)

4. Bug fixes

An update is recommended:
https://idena.io/?view=download

[s1989]

I had no issue with the validation this time. My only issue is that the node is going offline a lot in the past couple of days. I use the same VPS, but something is going on since the last update (0.21.1) anyone else have the same problem? Maybe the VPS requirement have changed meanwhile. Or something..

Did you delete ipfs folder after update as was said in Telegram Announcment?

I've noticed few weeks ago that my IDENA total folder were like 10 GB+ and ipfs had 90% of this weight ) So now I am deleting this IPFS after each validation and Node Sync pretty fast btw, it takes like 15 min and you don't even need to stop staking.

Devs say delete ipfs folder only with update to v0.21.1 as I know, so I think it is 100% no any need to delete this folder after each validation.

[notblox1]

New update... yet again with bug fix
New version of the Idena app is 0.13.2  
https://github.com/idena-network/idena-desktop/releases

Much better for devs to double check before releasing updates...

edit: this update also have some issues, as people reported

[Saisher]

New update... yet again with bug fix
New version of the Idena app is 0.13.2 
https://github.com/idena-network/idena-desktop/releases

Much better for devs to double check before releasing updates...

Will check it and update, even if you are running a VPS you should check from time to time if there is a new update, I like it that dev is always updating the application and wallet, to fix any bug you can tell that this project is healthy and on going because of the many update coming.

[othell_rogue]

Well.. since this is main-test-net Network is understandable that the software is not flawless so we need to live with this.
I like the new wallet feature: Collage tools for making flips. Pretty handy when making flips at first sight (didn't used it yet).

[Saisher]

On penalty again was late in updating my nodes,  that 4 Dna penalty is 12 hours or less penalized i won;t mind since my mining is on for 24 hours, I just need to be quick on updating my nodes everytime there is an update, glad that we still have 10 days before the validation just enough time to mine more DNA.

[realRioda]

For the people who are not on TG
https://t.me/IdenaAnnouncements/493

Idena Announcements
There is a new version of the Idena node available: 0.21.2

Changes:
- Updating IPFS version
- Reducing IPFS bandwidth consumption

Update is highly recommended for the successful validation:
https://idena.io/?view=download

[TOPPER_HARLEY]

On penalty again was late in updating my nodes,   that 4 Dna penalty is 12 hours or less penalized i won;t mind since my mining is on for 24 hours, I just need to be quick on updating my nodes everytime there is an update, glad that we still have 10 days before the validation just enough time to mine more DNA.

Nodes, plural? Do you mean the inbuilt one and external one or do you have multiple identities?

Can you not turn off the miner status **before** you update the node (and re-enable it afterwards obviously)? That way should dont have to rush.....

[LaaMos Seeth]

This is so pathetic, while you guys get all the rewards from all the invitations you send out.

USE YOUR DEV FUNDS (50% OF SUPPLY) TO FUND DEVELOPMENT NOT THE INVITATION REWARDS
STOP STEALING FROM FLIP CREATORS AND THOSE USERS WHO ISSUE INVITATIONS

Unfortunatly you are not well informed.
Rewards from the invitations they send, goes to members who spend their time teaching newcomers in Telegram Flip School.
Other funds from invitation have gone to reward community made projects:
Idena Ethereum Relay challenge
The $5k prize of this challenge goes to @henryfour
Sign-In with Idena challenge
First prize ($1.5k)
Idena Discord auth bot — a free Discord bot that links Idena identities with matching Discord roles
Second prize ($1k)
idenary.com — a game and art project built upon Idena
Third prizes ($500 each)
idena.vote — a customized polls website
idenapoll.com — a polling website guaranteeing the uniqueness of each vote and creating sybil-resistant polls
fairdrop.io — airdrops with the fairness they were supposed to have
Read more here:
https://medium.com/idena/idena-announces-the-winners-for-its-challenges-at-gitxchange-hackathon-7bf32495e01d
And no one is stealing anything, reported are reported for a reason and potential dna rewards are burned.

Rioda, you're a smart person, what the f*ck are you talking about?
What is this nonsense?
There was a distribution of the premine,
https://medium.com/idena/idena-community-report-current-state-and-next-steps-dce97a0e3034
Foundation wallet - 521,526 DNA
Now there already
https://scan.idena.io/address/0xcbb98843270812eeCE07BFb82d26b4881a33aA91
756,436 + 110,000 (I checked only the first 100 entries) = 866,436 DNA.

How can this be?
Those who have been in the crypto for a long time, you all know perfectly well that the smaller the premine, the more loyal the users and the more valuable the coin. It is a fact.

How could an increase in premine be allowed?

And do not need these excuses that these coins are used to pay any kind of rewards and prizes.

Don't you understand simple things?
All rewards for users (work, prizes, etc) should be paid only from the initial amount - 521k.
In one day, these 521k coins will end. And this is natural. So then the coins will become more valuable.
Then the developers will have to buy these coins on the exchange in order to pay users for the work/prizes. That is the point. There should not be endless coins. There should be a natural cycle of coins.
Coins are over - coins are bought, coins are over - coins are bought, and so on in a circle
But now developers are paying rewards with free coins received from the air. WTF ?
They don't want to spend premine, they don't want to buy coins on the exchange in order to pay rewards to users.

Just think, users buy coins for money on the exchange. At the same time, developers get them for free every validation.

Will this cause a person’s desire to buy these coins? No.
All rewards from the dev invitations must be burned.
No free money. No increasing premine.

[Tytanowy Janusz]

Ok we get it. You don't like it. Ok. I don't like tomatoes. Do I spam about that all the f.ng time? We already discussed it here at least 5 times and you just started it sixth time. Just leave this coins if you don't like it. There could be 30 mln premine and 4 mln in "increasing premine" spread for 10 years or 34 mln in basic premine without "increasing premine". Does it change anything for investor? Supply is Supply. Does it change anything for investor if rewards are distributed to miner or to community devs for doing stuff like that?:

1. https://idenavoice.com
Github: https://github.com/EarthlingDavey/idenavoice

2. https://idena.vote
Github: https://github.com/RealMahmoud/Idena-voting

3. https://idenapoll.com
Github: https://github.com/paolofacchinetti/IdenaPoll

4. idenary.com
Github: https://github.com/Idenary/idenary.com

5. https://fairdrop.io/
Github: https://github.com/fairdrop-io/fairdrop-io

6. Idena Discord auth bot https://discord.gg/8BusRj7
Github: https://github.com/iyomisc/idenauth


These coins will in future be distributed based on network consensus. We will decide how to spend them. This is our community fund for community projects.

Last epoch this wallet get 1200 coin out of 341 800 total rewards (and another 300 000?? mined). 0.15% but yea. Lets talk about that all the time because you don't like it. Do your own coin. Set 0 premine, give coins for free and than start buing them from people just like you want it from IDENA devs.

[notblox1]

There is one nice button you can use in bitcointalk forum - and it is called Ignore.
No need to talk and reply so many times to the same people over and over again.
If you don't like Idena or Bitcoin or any other coin, why wasting your time talking about it?
Maybe time to visit your local psychiatrist...

[LaaMos Seeth]

Please read and take part in an important poll about IDENA rewards.
Now we have absolutely unfair punishment for reported flips.
If someone doesn't know, then for reported flips, you completely lose the reward.
You will not be rewarded for successful validation, for invited users and for flips.
This punishment system must to be changed.
https://idenapoll.com/poll/WfpWH8_