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August 12, 2020, 05:19:04 AM
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for now the exchange to trade this coin is only hotbit mate
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/idena/markets
hope someday this coin will be at bigger and better exchange

Why do you say is ONLY HotBit when you quote "Idena is listed on Qtrade." from Tytanowy Janusz ? Maybe you want to say Hotbit is the only exchange listed on CMC Idena markets, which is a different thing.

Here is the qTrade link: https://qtrade.io/market/DNA_BTC where is a pretty decent volume. Also a good exchange, imo.

To Buy, or not to Sell? That is the question.
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August 12, 2020, 11:47:14 AM
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I still preffer and recommend qTrade over hotbit. Hotbit withdraw fee is 10 iDNA, while on qTrade is 1 iDNA.

Also Idena is on CMC, great news.

Date is 2020-08-12 idena is ranked 2471 on CMC
price is 13c

Next validtion should be wild. And still there is lot of work to develop surrounding ecosystem.

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August 12, 2020, 11:51:12 AM
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I still preffer and recommend qTrade over hotbit. Hotbit withdraw fee is 10 iDNA, while on qTrade is 1 iDNA.
Me too. This 1 and 10 iDNA is not much compared to fairness. Hotbit is fake trade, no API scam exchange.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113530.0

Together with hotbit listing Idena change ticker from DNA to iDNA.


Date is 2020-08-12 idena is ranked 2471 on CMC
price is 13c
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/idena/


Next thing is that you can use ledger for IDENA - https://twitter.com/idelseresearch/status/1293251268589346820

Next validtion should be wild. And still there is lot of work to develop surrounding ecosystem.

Back to times when invitations were worth 50$? Smiley


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August 14, 2020, 10:07:44 AM
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I still preffer and recommend qTrade over hotbit. Hotbit withdraw fee is 10 iDNA, while on qTrade is 1 iDNA.

Also Idena is on CMC, great news.

Date is 2020-08-12 idena is ranked 2471 on CMC
price is 13c

Next validtion should be wild. And still there is lot of work to develop surrounding ecosystem.

Same here, I really like qTrade and used HotBit from time to time, but if you say is 10 DNA the withdrawal fee, no thanks. I wanted to switch to HotBit due to higher volume, but since you say is also fake, I'll stick to qTrade.

The only good thing about HotBit is the CMC listing, other advantages for Idena, I don't see.

To Buy, or not to Sell? That is the question.
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August 14, 2020, 11:16:01 AM
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Same here, I really like qTrade and used HotBit from time to time, but if you say is 10 DNA the withdrawal fee, no thanks. I wanted to switch to HotBit due to higher volume, but since you say is also fake, I'll stick to qTrade.

The only good thing about HotBit is the CMC listing, other advantages for Idena, I don't see.
Can't state that it's fake volume Cheesy, but more exposure is great, as well CMC.

Hotbit hosted AMA on their Telegram, it was wild, lots of users had many questions, i guess over 300 questions were asked.

Fresh info:
Plans: Currently we are developing the oracle voting mechanism. It will be available in Q4 2020. We are also working on predefined smart contracts to enable community-driven funding, prediction markets, dispute resolutions, paid votings, paid polls, games, etc

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August 14, 2020, 03:32:36 PM
 #1326

Hi everyone in Idena community. I would just like to ask. How do I get invitation for Idena.

I already installed my VPS. I already installed my Idena wallet. They are already connected.

However, when I checked my wallet address, it is not in the block explorer.

Can someone help? It is greatly appreciated. thanks!

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August 14, 2020, 04:02:41 PM
Last edit: August 15, 2020, 06:32:49 AM by Tytanowy Janusz
 #1327

Fresh info:
Plans: Currently we are developing the oracle voting mechanism. It will be available in Q4 2020. We are also working on predefined smart contracts to enable community-driven funding, prediction markets, dispute resolutions, paid votings, paid polls, games, etc

I feel that we will see "DEFI" magic word and 10x pump soon:)

Hi everyone in Idena community. I would just like to ask. How do I get invitation for Idena.

I already installed my VPS. I already installed my Idena wallet. They are already connected.

However, when I checked my wallet address, it is not in the block explorer.

Can someone help? It is greatly appreciated. thanks!

If you are willing to take part in next validation (tommorow) than PM me. I can send you invite. If you want it only for bounty than try to get it from:

This group is made for invitation sharing
https://t.me/idenaflipschool

You can ask here too.
https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic

BTW. Validation today. Make sure you have updated and synchronized node.

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August 15, 2020, 08:22:54 AM
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The signature campaign and the threads that were created in the altcoin sections is gaining a lot of attention I hope we can keep it up and continue the signature bounty for continuous awareness of IDENA, so far price is doing great in the market it doubled, hope all the marketing campaigns I'm also doing a marketing campaign outside of Bitcointalk good luck to all of us in the coming validation today

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August 15, 2020, 12:44:07 PM
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Same here, I really like qTrade and used HotBit from time to time, but if you say is 10 DNA the withdrawal fee, no thanks. I wanted to switch to HotBit due to higher volume, but since you say is also fake, I'll stick to qTrade.

The only good thing about HotBit is the CMC listing, other advantages for Idena, I don't see.
Can't state that it's fake volume Cheesy, but more exposure is great, as well CMC.

Hotbit hosted AMA on their Telegram, it was wild, lots of users had many questions, i guess over 300 questions were asked.

Fresh info:
Plans: Currently we are developing the oracle voting mechanism. It will be available in Q4 2020. We are also working on predefined smart contracts to enable community-driven funding, prediction markets, dispute resolutions, paid votings, paid polls, games, etc

When i was young I had the tendency to put a mattress on my head and genitals since concealment of their naked beauty while I was asleep was the priority of mine back in the time. Times have changed. People got savvy insofar that their mind invented blockchain and networks of nodes among other clever things I dont mention coz I value my time. Conclusion: be smarter than a plain mattress and mechanisms will be available for your use in quarter 4 of this year.
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August 15, 2020, 03:26:09 PM
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The signature campaign and the threads that were created in the altcoin sections is gaining a lot of attention I hope we can keep it up and continue the signature bounty for continuous awareness of IDENA, so far price is doing great in the market it doubled, hope all the marketing campaigns I'm also doing a marketing campaign outside of Bitcointalk good luck to all of us in the coming validation today

As far as I know the signature campaign is not a paid bounty (not sure), meaning that anyone willing to spread awareness can join and wear the signature. Have anything changed? I am asking because I can leave my current signature campaign and join Idena one.

If not, I will wear the Idena signature anyway when my current campaign will end and till I'll find a new good one, which usually takes weeks.

Cheers!

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August 15, 2020, 03:48:59 PM
Last edit: August 15, 2020, 04:00:33 PM by Tytanowy Janusz
 #1331

As far as I know the signature campaign is not a paid bounty (not sure), meaning that anyone willing to spread awareness can join and wear the signature. Have anything changed? I am asking because I can leave my current signature campaign and join Idena one.

If not, I will wear the Idena signature anyway when my current campaign will end and till I'll find a new good one, which usually takes weeks.

Cheers!

Its a paid bounty now and recruitment is still ongoing if you are interested.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266380.0

After recent pump, the rates are pretty decent. Up to 2$ per post for legendary member.


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August 15, 2020, 04:14:45 PM
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As far as I know the signature campaign is not a paid bounty (not sure), meaning that anyone willing to spread awareness can join and wear the signature. Have anything changed? I am asking because I can leave my current signature campaign and join Idena one.

If not, I will wear the Idena signature anyway when my current campaign will end and till I'll find a new good one, which usually takes weeks.

Cheers!

Its a paid bounty now and recruitment is still ongoing if you are interested.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266380.0

After recent pump, the rates are pretty decent. Up to 2$ per post for legendary member.

Thanks for the tip! Already joined!

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Nice to see some growth, I think this is for the first time Idena nodes passed 3K Smiley Pretty exited for the future of the project.
The downside: Less coins as rewards, but I can live with it. Less coins/reward - more value/coin.



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The most important thing for now is sharding implementation. Because the network seems to be almost congested being working with its maximum payload.

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August 17, 2020, 02:53:32 AM
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 #1334

The most important thing for now is sharding implementation. Because the network seems to be almost congested being working with its maximum payload.

Don't get me wrong mate, is not that I don't agree with you and I am also for sharding implementation or any further developement but how do you know that the network is at maximum payload? Is the 3K mark nodes a maximum nodes that the network can have? If so this is an issue, meaning until the devs will implement sharding or something else to fix this, we can't grow anymore.

At least this is what I understand. Sounds like something is not working, and we need sharding implementation asap to fix the problem.

Anyway I didn't felt the network is congested, since everything is working like a charm, but I am not a developer and if you say so, I believe you.

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August 17, 2020, 06:27:11 AM
Last edit: August 17, 2020, 08:16:50 AM by realRioda
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 #1335

Developeres mentioned that they think that the network without sharding will be able to pull 8-10k nodes.

As far as I can see, the production of blocks was going fairly well.
On the link below you can see the last blocks of the epoch 51. It shows the validation was progressing and how the network worked.
https://scan.idena.io/epoch/51#blocks

Only hickup that I saw was this:


At that point in long session, network formed committee of nodes that were problematic, probbably low hardware resources, hogged ram or low powered cpu that were not able to produce 3 blocks.
Before that we see around 150 transactions per block. After that network got to a node with good hardware, and it produced block with 588 transactions.

VPS's with 1GB of ram are barely making it through. If you restart your node on VPS, you will clear it's hogged memory and it will perform perfect. But if you let it run for 10 days or so without restart, it will hog up ram memory, continue to use swap(virtual memory) and will start performing slowly and even posibbly go out of sync.
https://github.com/idena-network/idena-go/issues/514
Some optimisations if possible regarding this are needed if we want to stay in the 1GB ram requirements.

Judging by the block sizes during validation, we had that block with 588tx that was near 230KB. Block max is 300KB currently.
Untill we start seeing more of these bigger blocks we are not nearing network maximum.

We saw a growth of +300 in number and it came with good news and price increase, which is great. I'm sure we would have more validated identities if new people could understand that they can't sync their node few hours before validation, from VPS, they probably can, but from home enviroment, higly unlikely.

Other problem that is happening in high number is so called "Late subbmision" where you do the validation and submit on time, but something is not right and your answers are not submitted on time for short session. I have never experienced this during my validations. So it's not random bug, I think that it happens in two cases:
1. You run node+client in home enviroment and have poor connection/router that causes node to go out of sync, even if your client does not show you these small time periods when your node is not in sync. Or your local PC time is not synced, check on www.time.is
2. You run node at 1GB VPS but you have not restarted it for a long time, ram hogged, node out of sync. Also if node is ok and your time at local pc is out of sync, that can also be an isuue.

So, now, we have:
- "Late sync" people (wasted invites)
- "I forgot" people (killed newbies)
- "Late subbmision" people (bug)

Make sure you have decent hardware. If you run your node at home, run it with lowpower and profile=server. Make sure you restart node, 1 day before validation if you run on 1GB vps. Make sure your time is synced.

Video that shows how to run node on windows with lowpower and profile=server options that will cause your node to make less connections and put less strain on your probable low-end home router.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ2qi8MbR3I

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Last edit: August 18, 2020, 07:59:32 AM by Tytanowy Janusz
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Thanks realRioda. We need more technical stuff here. Hope to see more post like that in future.


I will pass here a rumour about coinbase. Telegram community is pretty excited about that and that's why i decided to copy/paste it here. Note that this is only a rumour. Judge it by yourself.


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@jerkasscapital let me sum it up:

the project team is anonymous but there is this one known and related image from the main dev: https://ibb.co/nmZ4S4L same image was also posted as the profile pic of the initiator of the initial meetup group in berlin (where it all started): https://secure.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/9/e/2/b/highres_289840491.jpeg but the thing is, it's an AI generated image.

then there is Graham Jenson. seemingly unrelated to IDENA but, he wrote this article: https://maori.geek.nz/proof-of-human-2ee5b9a3fa28 and there he is basically talking about IDENA. he is describing the whole concept there. now Graham Jenson isn't just someone, he is the Infrastructure Tech Lead at Coinbase... https://blog.coinbase.com/@GrahamJenson

notice how similar the image of Graham and Andrew is. the image from Andrew is generated from the image of Graham. and notice also how it says "New Zealand" here https://ibb.co/nmZ4S4L and that Graham is connected to that too: https://twitter.com/GrahamJenson/status/998080157394132993

and another thing: the IDENA node is coded in Go: https://github.com/idena-network/idena-go and Graham definitely is working hard with Go too: https://github.com/grahamjenson and https://maori.geek.nz/golang-desktop-app-with-webview-lorca-wasm-and-bazel-3283813bf89

last hint: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693765642662182913/703714929307287563/unknown.png this is talking about a RPC interface that the IDENA node has. interestingly, this plays perfectly into Coinbase profiles: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693765642662182913/703715019132502054/unknown.png

question is, what is more likely: project is a side project from Coinbase employee or actually a secret Coinbase project...
https://t.me/idena_trading/19581


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Furthermore: Idena team had access to seed investors. You gotta know people to have access to private equity like that, which lends credence to the idea this isn't just a run of the mill project by a bunch of nobodies with an idea, but actually a secret project by a large institution.

Though they could just have someone with a good finance background on the team, who knows.
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August 18, 2020, 08:58:07 AM
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Even if this is just a rumor, the connection seems obvious and there is a very high probability that Andrew to be Graham which is pretty exited, but if he wanted to stay anonymous let's leave it that way. Is his decision.

Either-way we need to give some credits to the user @jerkasscapital since he did a lot of work digging out and connecting the dots.
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August 18, 2020, 09:06:59 AM
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Either-way we need to give some credits to the user @jerkasscapital since he did a lot of work digging out and connecting the dots.

Maybe it's my mistake that i quote whole message making unnecessary confusion but credits should go to @endogen, who made this sum up of his research for user @jerkasscapital.

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August 18, 2020, 10:12:58 AM
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Thanks realRioda. We need more technical stuff here. Hope to see more post like that in future.


I will pass here a rumour about coinbase. Telegram community is pretty excited about that and that's why i decided to copy/paste it here. Note that this is only a rumour. Judge it by yourself.


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@jerkasscapital let me sum it up:

the project team is anonymous but there is this one known and related image from the main dev: https://ibb.co/nmZ4S4L same image was also posted as the profile pic of the initiator of the initial meetup group in berlin (where it all started): https://secure.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/9/e/2/b/highres_289840491.jpeg but the thing is, it's an AI generated image.

then there is Graham Jenson. seemingly unrelated to IDENA but, he wrote this article: https://maori.geek.nz/proof-of-human-2ee5b9a3fa28 and there he is basically talking about IDENA. he is describing the whole concept there. now Graham Jenson isn't just someone, he is the Infrastructure Tech Lead at Coinbase... https://blog.coinbase.com/@GrahamJenson

notice how similar the image of Graham and Andrew is. the image from Andrew is generated from the image of Graham. and notice also how it says "New Zealand" here https://ibb.co/nmZ4S4L and that Graham is connected to that too: https://twitter.com/GrahamJenson/status/998080157394132993

and another thing: the IDENA node is coded in Go: https://github.com/idena-network/idena-go and Graham definitely is working hard with Go too: https://github.com/grahamjenson and https://maori.geek.nz/golang-desktop-app-with-webview-lorca-wasm-and-bazel-3283813bf89

last hint: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693765642662182913/703714929307287563/unknown.png this is talking about a RPC interface that the IDENA node has. interestingly, this plays perfectly into Coinbase profiles: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693765642662182913/703715019132502054/unknown.png

question is, what is more likely: project is a side project from Coinbase employee or actually a secret Coinbase project...
https://t.me/idena_trading/19581


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Furthermore: Idena team had access to seed investors. You gotta know people to have access to private equity like that, which lends credence to the idea this isn't just a run of the mill project by a bunch of nobodies with an idea, but actually a secret project by a large institution.

Though they could just have someone with a good finance background on the team, who knows.
https://t.me/idena_trading/20853

Looks legit to me the connection. It can be, and if he is still working on Coinbase, this can be a conflict of interes between Coinbase and Idena, this is why he wanted to remain unknown.

This is just my personal opinion, take it with a grain of salt.
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August 18, 2020, 05:07:43 PM
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Its a paid bounty now and recruitment is still ongoing if you are interested.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266380.0

After recent pump, the rates are pretty decent. Up to 2$ per post for legendary member.


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what happen to epoch 46? why the node difference is half of the next epoch?
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