[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[Doff]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2U-Rack-Mounting-Hardware-Kit-Ear-Tab-Brackets-Chassis-Guide-Alignment-Pins-/221351473877?pt=US_Rackmount_Cases_Chassis&hash=item33899372d5

Would something like this work?

[hardhouseinc]

Anyone have a link for what mounting rails/ears? Or specs on what to buy?

Should add meant for Sp30.

I thought they had posted here and said the SP30 WOULD include mounting ears?
I really hope so as they are shipping straight to my hosting center this time and dont want
more down time for them trying to find ears or have to buy another rack.

[Spotswood]

Anyone have a link for what mounting rails/ears? Or specs on what to buy?

Should add meant for Sp30.

The dimension allegedly are: D 554 X W 431 X H 88.4 mm.
I'm personally considering buying this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291075344625?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Does anyone know if there will be any problem with plugging my 2 x SP30 at my apartment, in United Kingdom, to 230v 50Hz mains socket? Someone on the forum once mentioned something about some issue.

But that "cabinet" is only 200mm deep.   

[FoolPartedWithMoney]

Spoon is used to feed with lies? Pretty lame joke, I know.

[jtoomim]

<shameless-plug>

My datacenter's hosting fees are probably comparable to or lower than your electricity prices. We'll be using >= 208V. We won't be ready to host for another two weeks, though.

</shameless-plug>

In the SP10 firmware, there's an option to ignore or modify the power limit when running on 115V. You should only do this if you have a thicker-than-normal cable between the PSU and the wall (12 awg preferred, but 14 awg might be okay too).

OK, interesting, please send me the information and prices. Right now the SP10s are doing OK so far in Israel (fingers crossed), but just thinking about the day when its not worth the electricity anymore, then I would be running off 110v somewhere when forced to run at a negative cash flow. I think we have a total about about 10++ SP10s in various places, but they are all not mine.

I have a 14AWG wire, and 20amp dedicated outlet for each. By mistake one time I grabbed a 10amp cord, I was puzzled that even though the SP10 was pulling just 1000W, the cord was super hot. I guess not all chords are created equal. What does unlocking the voltage do to the heat. I have my fans set on 90% constant. How to do the voltage/option hack, in the GUI or only in the config file?

We're still working out the details on our prices for our DC. I think we're going to offer about $90/kW/month for month-to-month deals (zero commitment), with discounted rates if you pay in advance, down to maybe around $70/kW/month if you pay 12 months in advance. We should be releasing more information (and probably a video walkthrough of our facility-in-construction) next week. I expect us to be online around Aug 10th. For reference, $90/kW/month is about $0.12/kWh, and $70 is about $0.096/kWh. That includes cooling, rent, internet, electrical upgrades, etc., of course. We may also be offering a modest discount for Spondoolies miners because they're reliable and dense. Hosting 10 SP10s should be no sweat for us. Our first DC is scheduled to have about 800 kW of capacity online by late September.

Instructions on bypassing the 110V limit are below. Unlocking the current limit at low voltage will make the AC cable significantly hotter. Be careful; they shipped the miners with the default current limit for a good reason.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/14433873-version-1-4-2

If you create a file called /etc/mg_ignore_110_fcc the FW will not limit the 1100W for voltage under 130V. Note that this mode of work is not well tested by me, and can cause extreme heat in standard power cables and 110V sockets. Make sure you have 16 amper cables that match the amperage of the system. We take no responsibility of any damage done to the miner, PSU or your house if you set this flag without proper cables and sockets, and if the amperage of the PSU reaches higher then 14.5 amper. The PSU supports up to 14.5 Amper, so make the proper computation (and don't forget to add 15% to SP10 limit for PSU efficiency). If you are not sure - do not set this flag.

To create that file, you'll probably need to ssh in (download putty if you're on Windows) and run something like this:

touch /etc/mg_ignore_110_fcc

or possibly this:

sudo touch /etc/mg_ignore_110_fcc

I've burned out an electrical outlet before from running about 17 amps through one plug for several hours. Do be careful.

[Searing]

they have said it is the first batch of chips that are the problem..i think they also said it was a heat issue...my guess is you will get 2 boxes 1 board 1 power supply each
and the extra size fans and the bigger box now with only one board would limit any heat issues imho..and/or compensation for batch 1 orders with this bunch of chips
in refund of $$$ etc

Its always a heat issue when it comes to bitcoin mining, but its not the problem in this case. They won't ship half filled units for no reason, those cases are expensive and the cooling performance wouldn't increase hugely without totally redesigning the heatsinks. Makes no sense to part it and also require additional control boards, half the density, double the shipping etc. Fiat costs are expensive.

well then imho we be screwed...because unless they plan to give us significant $$$ back or allow the cancellation and/or full refund...

I really don't see a lot of options..in that they 1) promised 6Th and 2) can deliver on the timeline they say is unaffected and...likely ...not close to that at the same electric use

so if what you say is true..I know (again as a guess) see the only option for them to keep market share and recover on this (at least for 1st batch folks)

is that they get out a unit at the speed that they can ...even with the more then expected electricity use...and we get 'correct/fair' $$ compensation as a
% of the hashing power lost

re-reading what you say..that would likely cost them 'more' then the ship the 'two'  boxes plan I mentioned....so kinda at a loss....in what they actually will do
to 'keep' the timeline as they state

depends on how deep their pockets are I guess and how 'fair' they plan to be on all this

and as a further not 'I suppose" in that it was .....supposedly....likely as they state just this 1st batch of chips that was bad...they could just refund those
that ordered in that 1st batch ...but again you are likely correct probably more $$$ then they have..so I be stumped if your view is correct on what they can do...

anyway not looking like they are gonna have a lot of wiggle room if they are running 'close to the edge" as most asic mnfg have done $$$ wise etc

Searing

[faetos]

This is truly the time when we will see what kind of company they will be. When stuff goes a bit sideways how do they react? I hope they do the right thing by you guys. We need solid, honest companies in this industry.

[kkurtmann]

This is truly the time when we will see what kind of company they will be. When stuff goes a bit sideways how do they react? I hope they do the right thing by you guys. We need solid, honest companies in this industry.

yes! Just like bitmain

btw I love the dawson s10 I have, except for the noise

[Bicknellski]

This is truly the time when we will see what kind of company they will be. When stuff goes a bit sideways how do they react? I hope they do the right thing by you guys. We need solid, honest companies in this industry.

Agreed. Although there are plenty of examples of how they have been there to help their customers in the recent past so that is why I put my cash down on the SP30s. Time will tell but my assessment was that they would, should something go sideways like this, fix it so that customers would be limited to the exposure. This is a major snafu but I suspect customers will be made whole.

People will be review the compensation but I suspect it will match the 6Th/s that was promised... I don't see this being a major issue moving forward. When they do resolve these issues it will make them stand out a leader in the marketplace along with Bitmain and ROCKMINER that have satisfied customers when things went slightly sideways.

 

[repairguy]

It has been more than a couple of days, and I see your online.  What is the scoop, Guy?

[Guy Corem]

Patient please. We'll start shipping the SP30s and release more information next week.

Guy

[dogie]

Anyone have a link for what mounting rails/ears? Or specs on what to buy?

Should add meant for Sp30.

The dimension allegedly are: D 554 X W 431 X H 88.4 mm.
I'm personally considering buying this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291075344625?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Does anyone know if there will be any problem with plugging my 2 x SP30 at my apartment, in United Kingdom, to 230v 50Hz mains socket? Someone on the forum once mentioned something about some issue.

I just need the mounting ears for a standard data center 2U rack mount. Not sure what you call them. That seems like a ton of heat for an Apartment. I use air cooling in a Large Garage I pay for and its quite warm with 4000KW. Unless your Apartment is very Large?

I'm basically just curious, seems like a lot of power for an Apartment I guess.

4000KW would be a lot of heat, yes 4000W isn't much at all if you can separate the heat from anywhere humans need to be (another bedroom). Heck you can cram 10KW into a single room if you've got two windows or split flow a single window. And remember in the UK for the majority of the year, our ambient is 2-10C so free AC from outside.

You'll have to split the physical sockets those SP30s are on but they'll run off a single 32A circuit fine. I wouldn't want anything else substantial on that circuit though. Fridge, microwave etc should be fine.

Most sensible flats will have 2x 32A circuits on a 63A RLD switch.

[Wolke]

is this a good seller of bitcoin mining hardware ?

[bitgeek]

is this a good seller of bitcoin mining hardware ?

Yes, although they are having some problems with their new chips.
Another thing is that they are from Israel and it hasn't been the safest place to live lately.

[btc_uzr]

is this a good seller of bitcoin mining hardware ?

what do you consider good and what are your evaluation criteria?

I can provide you some facts you can verify on your own when reading this thread from the beginning
*shipping from Israel
*excellent customer support
*quality hardware, data center ready, respecting specs for power cables etc
*regarding earlier sales and shipping dates, reliable
*competitive pricing
*customer satisfaction is in the focus, not own datorhalls
*honest - they do not turn silent, hide or run away if things do not turn out well (like current chips)


**disclaimer:
1) never made business with them, still on the fence
2) pre-orders are always very risky, so think twice and only spend money you can afford to loose

[BitCoin Operated Boy]

Anyone have a link for what mounting rails/ears? Or specs on what to buy?

Should add meant for Sp30.

The dimension allegedly are: D 554 X W 431 X H 88.4 mm.
I'm personally considering buying this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291075344625?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Does anyone know if there will be any problem with plugging my 2 x SP30 at my apartment, in United Kingdom, to 230v 50Hz mains socket? Someone on the forum once mentioned something about some issue.

I just need the mounting ears for a standard data center 2U rack mount. Not sure what you call them. That seems like a ton of heat for an Apartment. I use air cooling in a Large Garage I pay for and its quite warm with 4000KW. Unless your Apartment is very Large?

I'm basically just curious, seems like a lot of power for an Apartment I guess.

Yes it is a lot. The largest room in my flat is about 4.5-5m to 4,5-5m size. I may put it in the kitchen, although it is smaller in size but much cooler (away from steam sources).

Anyone have a link for what mounting rails/ears? Or specs on what to buy?

Should add meant for Sp30.

The dimension allegedly are: D 554 X W 431 X H 88.4 mm.
I'm personally considering buying this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291075344625?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Does anyone know if there will be any problem with plugging my 2 x SP30 at my apartment, in United Kingdom, to 230v 50Hz mains socket? Someone on the forum once mentioned something about some issue.

But that "cabinet" is only 200mm deep.   

Yes you are right Doh

This one looks better :-)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261535485912?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Patient please. We'll start shipping the SP30s and release more information next week.

Guy

What are the exact dimensions of the unit, please?  D 554 X W 431 X H 88.4 mm?
Will there be any problem with plugging SP30 to 230v 50Hz mains socket?

[jtoomim]

What are the exact dimensions of the unit, please?  D 554 X W 431 X H 88.4 mm?

I'd like to know this as well. It's not listed on the website as far as I can tell.

Will there be any problem with plugging SP30 to 230v 50Hz mains socket?

230v 50Hz should work nicely. You'll likely need one 20 amp circuit or two 15 amp circuits at 230v for each SP30.

You don't really need a rack. The SP30 should run just fine lying on a table desk, shelf, or the floor, as long as the surface it's lying on won't get damaged by persistent temperatures up to 80°C. A rack might improve airflow a little bit, but it's optional.

[ZiG]

What are the exact dimensions of the unit, please?  D 554 X W 431 X H 88.4 mm?

I'd like to know this as well. It's not listed on the website as far as I can tell.

Will there be any problem with plugging SP30 to 230v 50Hz mains socket?

230v 50Hz should work nicely. You'll likely need one 20 amp circuit or two 15 amp circuits at 230v for each SP30.

You don't really need a rack. The SP30 should run just fine lying on a table desk, shelf, or the floor, as long as the surface it's lying on won't get damaged by persistent temperatures up to 80°C. A rack might improve airflow a little bit, but it's optional.

@ 220V you will need ONLY 1 (one) 15A circuit ...as SP30 is rated @ 2700W / 220V = 12.3A ONLY...

ZiG

[wh00per]

That's why I said my spondoolies hosted miners hash at 1.4T because they are on 208v-240V. But here in America, it is common to run off of 120v. Now, everything is fine if I run it all in the datacenter, but what if the hosting fee becomes too much based on BTC prices and I just want to take them back and put them in some back room at the office? As in it makes a small margin of profit running them myself without hosting, but pay hosting fees wouldn't be profit anymore at that point. Maybe everyone else doesn't think this way or have this concern...

While others may not have the concern, I was also asking this same type of information about the SP30s a few months ago. We were excited to hear about the product, but I didn't end up recommending it to my company (and others interested in it) because they couldn't tell me the hash on 120v which I thought was strange.  They said it could operate on 120v, but could not disclose hash rate to me.  Honestly, I also had in mind that antminer will come out with an S4 based on their S3 design. I don't want to go around explaining to people who bought these that they have to take them out of the datacenter, but can't run them anywhere except if they have 208V-240V service.

All residential in US has 240V but split in 2 phases. This is true even for apartment buildings.  Most of the stoves and driers run on 240V, so please .. almost everyone in North America has a 240V service.

As for the disclosed hashrate, they disclosed one, together with the conditions to get it. It's not their fault you live where you live or you host it where you find some decent rackspace without asking about the power requirements.

[Biodom]

That's why I said my spondoolies hosted miners hash at 1.4T because they are on 208v-240V. But here in America, it is common to run off of 120v. Now, everything is fine if I run it all in the datacenter, but what if the hosting fee becomes too much based on BTC prices and I just want to take them back and put them in some back room at the office? As in it makes a small margin of profit running them myself without hosting, but pay hosting fees wouldn't be profit anymore at that point. Maybe everyone else doesn't think this way or have this concern...

While others may not have the concern, I was also asking this same type of information about the SP30s a few months ago. We were excited to hear about the product, but I didn't end up recommending it to my company (and others interested in it) because they couldn't tell me the hash on 120v which I thought was strange.  They said it could operate on 120v, but could not disclose hash rate to me.  Honestly, I also had in mind that antminer will come out with an S4 based on their S3 design. I don't want to go around explaining to people who bought these that they have to take them out of the datacenter, but can't run them anywhere except if they have 208V-240V service.

All residential in US has 240V but split in 2 phases. This is true even for apartment buildings.  Most of the stoves and driers run on 240V, so please .. almost everyone in North America has a 240V service.

As for the disclosed hashrate, they disclosed one, together with the conditions to get it. It's not their fault you live where you live or you host it where you find some decent rackspace without asking about the power requirements.

It's funny that you talk about stoves and driers...at least in my household, I was told to stay clear of these two...they are sacred  .