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i totally agree, the thing is the media already inserted so many hatred in the population that they would just turn their head to the truth. i believe no religion is spreading hatred. in fact its the small tiny minority of the people who will spread the hatred for THEIR OWN benefits. wars are big money business for gun production
Not just limited to that, but this minor group also try to get their means out of people's hatred which already gets created by them in these people's mind... you cannot based judgements upon a tiny minority of people. this is weird and incorrect. and matter of fact, if i start putting down facts on a post. they wont be able to say anything. or even better, they would say (like they did before) : those people were not christians, those people did not do it for religion. but where the fuck ISIS or whoever those idiots are, are doing it for religion? because they say : Allahu Akbar when they do it? if i am sitting and i have to stand up i say Allahu Akbar. does that mean i am killing someone? those racist comments is disgusting. i was gutted few days ago about those comments and stop replying for a day Take a break from the internet. Read a book. Walk a bit. Then come back... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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i totally agree, the thing is the media already inserted so many hatred in the population that they would just turn their head to the truth. i believe no religion is spreading hatred. in fact its the small tiny minority of the people who will spread the hatred for THEIR OWN benefits. wars are big money business for gun production
Not just limited to that, but this minor group also try to get their means out of people's hatred which already gets created by them in these people's mind... you cannot based judgements upon a tiny minority of people. this is weird and incorrect. and matter of fact, if i start putting down facts on a post. they wont be able to say anything. or even better, they would say (like they did before) : those people were not christians, those people did not do it for religion. but where the fuck ISIS or whoever those idiots are, are doing it for religion? because they say : Allahu Akbar when they do it? if i am sitting and i have to stand up i say Allahu Akbar. does that mean i am killing someone? those racist comments is disgusting. i was gutted few days ago about those comments and stop replying for a day Take a break from the internet. Read a book. Walk a bit. Then come back... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy. That's over and done. That's what the phrase means. It only remains to be seen how much more of the perception of Islam is hijacked by militant radicals. Do not blame the media (much of which particular in the Middle East is state controlled.) Blame those who would hijack Islam and submit you to their perception of it or kill you.
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Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.
That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.
Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit.
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"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines". -Bertrand Russell
After reading a little of this topic I have to say that - we people have a long way ahead of us before ^this^ happens.
The religion that says that "religion is something left over from" blah, blah, blah, will disappear long before most of the mainstream religions of the world. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 14, 2015, 04:48:29 PM |
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Do you know what "extremists" mean, don't you?! "Islamic extremists" are often used in a "false way", in a single word "misused", nowadays. As I mentioned a few times, "extremists" bother to spend most of their time to "pray" and do other "must do" things such as Zakat, Fast etc... "Extremists" will know almost every rules and teachings of Islam but muslim terrorists contradicts these rules and teachings. Still they are "extremists"? I don't think so.
"Extremists" is a word that extremists might use regarding those that some others think are not extremists. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 14, 2015, 05:26:51 PM |
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Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.
That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.
Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit. Universal truth? I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood.
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April 15, 2015, 04:11:09 PM |
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Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.
That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.
Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit. Universal truth? I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood. Of course, the extremists might be the ones with the correct views of Islam. The ignorant peaceful masses are probably simply ignorant to the truth of their professed religion, Islam. The studied clerics and others only want peace so that they can rape the ignorant masses. So, they lie about the fact that Islam is violent. The extremists probably are using Islam in the correct way. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 15, 2015, 04:18:43 PM |
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Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.
That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.
Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit. Universal truth? I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood. Of course, the extremists might be the ones with the correct views of Islam. The ignorant peaceful masses are probably simply ignorant to the truth of their professed religion, Islam. The studied clerics and others only want peace so that they can rape the ignorant masses. So, they lie about the fact that Islam is violent. The extremists probably are using Islam in the correct way. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I don't feel that has anything to do with the phrase "Allah Akbar" being hijacked by extemists manipulating the media.
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April 15, 2015, 04:34:38 PM |
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Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.
That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.
Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit. Universal truth? I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood. Of course, the extremists might be the ones with the correct views of Islam. The ignorant peaceful masses are probably simply ignorant to the truth of their professed religion, Islam. The studied clerics and others only want peace so that they can rape the ignorant masses. So, they lie about the fact that Islam is violent. The extremists probably are using Islam in the correct way. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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April 15, 2015, 04:36:10 PM |
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Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.
That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.
Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit. Universal truth? I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood. Of course, the extremists might be the ones with the correct views of Islam. The ignorant peaceful masses are probably simply ignorant to the truth of their professed religion, Islam. The studied clerics and others only want peace so that they can rape the ignorant masses. So, they lie about the fact that Islam is violent. The extremists probably are using Islam in the correct way. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I don't feel that has anything to do with the phrase "Allah Akbar" being hijacked by extemists manipulating the media. when everybody say oh my god, oh god, my god, god is great.. its fine. when muslims say the same thing in arabic, they are terrorist. when will your double standard mind stop abusing a religion you know nothing of besides few hate spreading websites that you read and the whole mass media spreading even more hate and picking on what line to use and what not... when will that stop spendulus? yet again and again and again, you are judging a religion based on the people following the religion... well hitler is a bigger terrorist then. hitler was from which faith? well his faith is even more terrorists than Islam.. hitler alone killed more people than suicide bombers from the muslim community altogether... double standard thoughts.. pathetic buddy.. pathetic!!!
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Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.
That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.
Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit. Universal truth? I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood. Of course, the extremists might be the ones with the correct views of Islam. The ignorant peaceful masses are probably simply ignorant to the truth of their professed religion, Islam. The studied clerics and others only want peace so that they can rape the ignorant masses. So, they lie about the fact that Islam is violent. The extremists probably are using Islam in the correct way. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) you should read again decker.. lol you just actually made the whole point clear.. so only the 0.000000009% of the muslim community is really understanding islam by what you say... the rest are what? ignorants maybe? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) the small handful of person understands and follow it and the rest are not? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) you sometimes should read before you post. you put yourself in a bad situation afterwards. you contradict yourself way too many times
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April 15, 2015, 05:09:36 PM |
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Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.
That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.
Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit. Universal truth? I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood. Of course, the extremists might be the ones with the correct views of Islam. The ignorant peaceful masses are probably simply ignorant to the truth of their professed religion, Islam. The studied clerics and others only want peace so that they can rape the ignorant masses. So, they lie about the fact that Islam is violent. The extremists probably are using Islam in the correct way. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I understand your frustration. If you are a true and peaceful human being, it is frustrating when you have difficulty proving that your religion is peaceful as well... especially when a lot of it says otherwise. If you are false, and are out there to make money off the ignorant Islamite masses, it is frustrating when someone starts to express the truth about your falseness. Trying to make someone else "keep mum" as you expressed it, suggests that you have something to hide, and you don't want other people bringing it out into the open. you should read again decker.. lol you just actually made the whole point clear.. so only the 0.000000009% of the muslim community is really understanding islam by what you say... the rest are what? ignorants maybe? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) the small handful of person understands and follow it and the rest are not? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) you sometimes should read before you post. you put yourself in a bad situation afterwards. you contradict yourself way too many times Now, be careful. When you try to downplay the simple, easily understood things that I say, you are really hurting your own position. Why? Because you haven't really answered what I have said. You are only trying to hide my points in a different way than Muhammed Zakir. And when you are trying to hide something, it usually means that something nefarious is going on behind the scenes. Bitcoin is open source. The programming is available to everyone. People can check it out, even if they have to learn QT programming to do it. So, why does it upset you that there are aspects of Islam that are being revealed that have been hidden to the masses for ages? Here's why. Either you are good people and are finding out that Islam is bad. Or, you are bad people using Islam to scam people, and you don't want your scam found out. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 15, 2015, 05:17:24 PM |
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I said mum because it is better than lying. You can't prove it is violence just because some psychos are violent. You are islamaphobia. You spread lie to backup your claims and to make Christianity an ultimate religion. If you don't know what you are saying or what the truth is, keep mum.
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April 15, 2015, 05:23:29 PM |
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I said mum because it is better than lying. You can't prove it is violence just because some psychos are violent. You are islamaphobia. You spread lie to backup your claims and to make Christianity an ultimate religion. If you don't know what you are saying or what the truth is, keep mum.
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I think we should calm down here, this thread is becoming a "blame thread" to Muslims and Islam. I think we can make a peaceful discussion without offend nobody, what do you think?
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April 15, 2015, 05:26:21 PM |
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Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.
That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.
Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit. Universal truth? I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood. Of course, the extremists might be the ones with the correct views of Islam. The ignorant peaceful masses are probably simply ignorant to the truth of their professed religion, Islam. The studied clerics and others only want peace so that they can rape the ignorant masses. So, they lie about the fact that Islam is violent. The extremists probably are using Islam in the correct way. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I understand your frustration. If you are a true and peaceful human being, it is frustrating when you have difficulty proving that your religion is peaceful as well... especially when a lot of it says otherwise. If you are false, and are out there to make money off the ignorant Islamite masses, it is frustrating when someone starts to express the truth about your falseness. Trying to make someone else "keep mum" as you expressed it, suggests that you have something to hide, and you don't want other people bringing it out into the open. you should read again decker.. lol you just actually made the whole point clear.. so only the 0.000000009% of the muslim community is really understanding islam by what you say... the rest are what? ignorants maybe? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) the small handful of person understands and follow it and the rest are not? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) you sometimes should read before you post. you put yourself in a bad situation afterwards. you contradict yourself way too many times Now, be careful. When you try to downplay the simple, easily understood things that I say, you are really hurting your own position. Why? Because you haven't really answered what I have said. You are only trying to hide my points in a different way than Muhammed Zakir. And when you are trying to hide something, it usually means that something nefarious is going on behind the scenes. Bitcoin is open source. The programming is available to everyone. People can check it out, even if they have to learn QT programming to do it. So, why does it upset you that there are aspects of Islam that are being revealed that have been hidden to the masses for ages? Here's why. Either you are good people and are finding out that Islam is bad. Or, you are bad people using Islam to scam people, and you don't want your scam found out. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6PENmHXuKEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtZmBWF31VM&feature=iv&src_vid=W6PENmHXuKE&annotation_id=annotation_88736#t=14h30mfor dummies ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 15, 2015, 05:26:42 PM |
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I said mum because it is better than lying. You can't prove it is violence just because some psychos are violent. You are islamaphobia. You spread lie to backup your claims and to make Christianity an ultimate religion. If you don't know what you are saying or what the truth is, keep mum.
* No offence to Christianity or Christians.
However, when a lot of the words in the Quran and the Hadith actually SAY to do violence, and when it takes a lot of twisting of other words of the Quran and Hadith to make the violent words say "peace," who is it that is doing the lying? If you don't want to understand that words of violence are words of violence, but rather try to convert them to words of peace even though they are words of violence, what does that really say about yourself? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 15, 2015, 05:33:54 PM |
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I said mum because it is better than lying. You can't prove it is violence just because some psychos are violent. You are islamaphobia. You spread lie to backup your claims and to make Christianity an ultimate religion. If you don't know what you are saying or what the truth is, keep mum.
* No offence to Christianity or Christians.
However, when a lot of the words in the Quran and the Hadith actually SAY to do violence, and when it takes a lot of twisting of other words of the Quran and Hadith to make the violent words say "peace," who is it that is doing the lying? If you don't want to understand that words of violence are words of violence, but rather try to convert them to words of peace even though they are words of violence, what does that really say about yourself? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i would love if you could watch the 2 links i posted. the first one has some quotes about old and new testament ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies. However, when a lot of the words in the Quran and the Hadith actually SAY to do violence, and when it takes a lot of twisting of other words of the Quran and Hadith to make the violent words say "peace," who is it that is doing the lying? If you don't want to understand that words of violence are words of violence, but rather try to convert them to words of peace even though they are words of violence, what does that really say about yourself? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing. Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) =snip= Trying to make someone else "keep mum" as you expressed it, suggests that you have something to hide, and you don't want other people bringing it out into the open. [
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@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies. However, when a lot of the words in the Quran and the Hadith actually SAY to do violence, and when it takes a lot of twisting of other words of the Quran and Hadith to make the violent words say "peace," who is it that is doing the lying? If you don't want to understand that words of violence are words of violence, but rather try to convert them to words of peace even though they are words of violence, what does that really say about yourself? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing. Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) =snip= Trying to make someone else "keep mum" as you expressed it, suggests that you have something to hide, and you don't want other people bringing it out into the open. [ Except for the most important detail. This detail is that anybody can take a look and see that what I am saying is true. All they have to do is look and see what the Quran and Hadith say when they say words of violence. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies. However, when a lot of the words in the Quran and the Hadith actually SAY to do violence, and when it takes a lot of twisting of other words of the Quran and Hadith to make the violent words say "peace," who is it that is doing the lying? If you don't want to understand that words of violence are words of violence, but rather try to convert them to words of peace even though they are words of violence, what does that really say about yourself? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing. Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) =snip= Trying to make someone else "keep mum" as you expressed it, suggests that you have something to hide, and you don't want other people bringing it out into the open. [ Except for the most important detail. This detail is that anybody can take a look and see that what I am saying is true. All they have to do is look and see what the Quran and Hadith say when they say words of violence. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) well everybody should just take popcorns, watch the links i just sent which you have still not commented about, and start learning a bit..
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