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1001  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: tax customs in different countries on: October 03, 2015, 06:14:21 PM
Bitmain is smart, get paid in bitcoin does not cost any fee to him, but when ships in the world says the price in full,. very clever, if this is to respect the customers who buy products from him, we are in deep shit,. could save customs duties for its customers, instead does nothing. always think to get rich,

What has being paid in Bitcoin have anything to do with not breaking the law by falsely declaring a low customs value and falsifying invoices?
1002  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 03, 2015, 06:13:04 PM

I'm running my S7 @ stock speed @ 2500rpm fans @ 30C ambient without issue. Its not inconceivable that one might be able to do the same after replacing fans given a lower ambient. Also worth remembering that both the ASICMiner Tube and Prisma cooled ~1KW through a longer heatsink using a single fan. And in the case of the ASICMiner Tube it was possible to replace the fan with 2x Corsair SP120s which are quite a way under the NF-F12s.

interesting...what is % setting and its boards temp? thanks
30% fans, 66C highest board.


doubly interesting, so you don't think that going this high is troublesome? I thought in S5 you wanted to stay lower than this (it least initially, AFAIR).
If i can go to 2500 and even 3000rpm, I can definitely host another S7

[Your quote is derped]. No I don't have any indication that going that high is troublesome. They wouldn't have chosen an 80C shutdown if 70, 80 or even 90C was the "turns to sludge" point.
1003  Other / Meta / Re: Trust List Analysis - Alt Account Identification on: October 03, 2015, 06:07:50 PM
I won't post in the other thread to say that I support this (since it would be a useless post) and you've already posted the tool. The analysis and system used is actually very interesting to say at least. This might also be the tipping stone in some cases where it was already 'probable' that X was alt of Y.
Yeah I think that's the main use of this. "Hmm just scambusted that guy, lets see if he could still be floating about".

Let me get this straight, so users without edited lists are completely excluded? I used to have an alt (I doubt that anyone besides an admin even knew about it) with a unedited list. This means that you could to identify that account as my probable alt, correct?
I could NOT identify your alt if it had just "DefaultTrust" in its trust list. Accounts with an unedited trust list aren't included in the trustlist dump Theymos provides.


The question is how accurate this analysis is?
it may get some legit users in problem also, how it was done and what is its accuracy
As I said in the other thread, the methodology isn't important on this one as you can do a human check across the two trust lists (I've added a shortened version alongside). Its as accurate as you want it to be and could be entirely useless in some cases but pretty strong in others.
1004  Other / Meta / Re: Trust List Analysis - Ethics on: October 03, 2015, 05:40:16 PM
So it means, alt can be reveal if only someone put his/her own trust into his/her alt by this method ?
Let see this..bring it on
No, different methodology.


Thread has been posted here, locking this one.
1005  Other / Meta / Re: Trust List Analysis - Ethics on: October 03, 2015, 05:39:23 PM
I suppose the best way to see if it works would be to run it on yourself.
It doesn't work against one person, it works against all at once. I checked for my name but it wouldn't even weakly match me against anyone above 1 trust rating.


1) Can be reverse engineered
1b) Can be used to impersonate others
On both accounts the answer is: It can, but its always going to happen. You can impersonate people by name, email address, BTC address etc.

2) Overzealus witch-hunting
Again always going to happen but not entertaining it can remove most of the problems. I can also manually recheck unusual links (Ie a suggesting that John K is Theymos, or that BadBear is God).

3) Privacy
Trust lists are public AND they're compiled and posted already. If you feel there is something to hide in your trust list, then maybe that rating shouldn't be there in the first place.

4) Drama
Anything and everything will lead to more drama.
1006  Other / Meta / Re: Trust List Analysis - Alt Account Identification on: October 03, 2015, 05:30:48 PM
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1007  Other / Meta / Re: Trust List Analysis - Alt Account Identification on: October 03, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
This list is considered low probability. It really doesn't mean much without a lot of other information in order to confirm a link.

Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPNprsolidvip0.623.31neg_Vod&neg_Tomatocage&Antuam&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&neg_randombit&neg_BrianM&…
nM&neg_Memminger&neg_quasimodo&neg_PolyCoin-Team&solidvip&RentCute.com&Susi.D&ne
neg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&CPNpr
bitcoinplazaZuonKing0.751.95theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertaniHostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
MiningBuddynimda0.741.20CanaryInTheMine&BadBitcoin (James Sutton)dooglus&John (John K.)&Bees Brothers&BadBitcoin (James Sutton)&IveBeenBit&Kouye
CyberRatJansen2270.720.90PsychoticBoy&Jouke&MitchełłPsychoticBoy&dnaleor&Mitchełł
djcoinTak0.672.85Gavin Andresen&Luke-Jr&Carnth&SebastianJu&-ck&Vod&John (John K.)&kano&Tomatoc…
tocage&Xian01&burnside&crashoveride54902&klondike_bar
theymos&Gavin Andresen&gmaxwell&-ck&kano&burnside
Shadow_RunnerXVzN0.670.90neg_xetsr&sandy-is-finenish2011&jaydipm&sandy-is-fine&kenscho
galbrosmicky1230.662.25dooglus&Stunna&dogedice.metheymos&dooglus&Vod&Tomatocage&BadBear&omahapoker&antonlevay&dogedice.me&Samp…
amperio&neg_SarcasmMe&neg_detective2015&v1rtu0so
danielpbarronpummle0.663.61nanotube&davout&Stephen Gornick&kakobrekla&Azelphur&pankkake&Immuzikation&dpb…
dpb&GlooBoy&MPOE-PR&BCB&TheButterZone&Atruk&nubbins&fluffypony&railzand&NotLambc
davout&Tomatocage&MPOE-PR&BCB&ThickAsThieves&fluffypony
Foofighterthomashrev890.661.95allinvain&PsychoticBoy&Akka&puffmais&intron&blackarrow&Menig&paul3&itxtutor&c…
r&cscape
friedcat&intron&cscape
maxpowerPolyatomic0.652.10CanaryInTheMine&John (John K.)&Entropy-uc&JCDentonGraet&CanaryInTheMine&John (John K.)&Maidak&dadj&Augusto Croppo&pidge&J.Socal…
cal&Entropy-uc&QuiveringGibbage
bitcoinplazaU1TRA_L0RD0.634.81theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertanitheymos&Keefe&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&casascius&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&S…
d&Stemby&ziomik&John (John K.)&ercolinux&ngzhang&legolouman&xiangfu&diego1000&ga
KouyeMuhammed Zakir0.6310.38Maged&tysat&jackjack&malevolent&Vod&Tomatocage&SaltySpitoon&MPOE-PR&DannyHami…
amilton
satoshi&sirius&theymos&Gavin Andresen&neg_Luke-Jr&dooglus&Maged&gmaxwell&tysa…
ysat&dserrano5&OgNasty&-ck&jackjack&malevolent&neg_JoelKatz&paraipan&Vod&John (J
Korbmanlnternet0.621.20theymos&lightboxlightbox&TwinWinNerD&Craftyman&DeathAndTaxes&quarzazatete&djingodjango
frontitrasla0.621.50gmaxwell&2weiX&yxt&qwk&Akka&sacko&twbtphantastisch&qwk&Akka
AtrukPeter Lambert0.601.65Gavin Andresen&kakobrekla&Micon&pankkake&greyhawk&rini17&MPOE-PR&DannyHamilto…
lton&ThickAsThieves
MPOE-PR&BCB
ahmedbodiVERUMinNUMERIS0.561.95ahmed_bodi&mrbodimarkm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
aminorexeizh0.553.01Anon136&dooglus&gmaxwell&smooth&tacotime&rpietila&David Latapie&fluffypony&Bi…
&BitChick&xulescu&eizh&othe&NoodleDoodle&papa_lazzarou&CTTE&GingerAle
smooth&fluffypony&jayaitch&NoodleDoodle
alka66ZuonKing0.551.65HostFat&paci&ziomik&MirkoIta&alexrossi&cryptobtcxHostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
elasticbandWeppel0.552.70Mabsark&bbxx&friedcat&PsychoticBoy&Rampion&corrow&michaelangelo&600watt&EnJoy…
JoyThis&gidi337&btcapparel&stevenf&aphorise&Fireblade&MisterLG
PsychoticBoy&EnJoyThis&elasticband
DrahogErusielEl Extranjero0.541.80TECSHARE&John (John K.)&Mushroomized&SaltySpitoon&dozerz&lukemarshall&The 4ne…
4ner&Nightowlace&El Extranjero&jakedeez
The 4ner&DrahogErusiel
edn247neleonele0.541.20Biomech&presstab&cecilbdementedthundertoe&Biomech&batesresearch&presstab&shavers
DiThiedd0.531.35theymos&Rassah&Wolf0&ReCatSgtSpike&Rassah&Phinnaeus Gage&DeathAndTaxes&ReCat
hamza171sorryforthat0.531.35alani123&shdvb&ChiliPowder&CoolRunnings21&QuicksellerOgNasty&BadBear&ChiliPowder&Quickseller
PurePwnageSusi.D0.521.20neg_Blazr&neg_aa&neg_MRKLYEneg_Vod&neg_MRKLYE&neg_goodnightcoin&neg_ABitNut&neg_Bitcoin-Police
albertinarulbero0.851.35mars78&ghibly79HostFat&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Pitchotto&mars78&ghibly79
IndicatorsMarketMagic0.851.35egghead123&logocreatormammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
BitcoinPlusBusIndicators0.871.05mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatoregghead123&logocreator
albertinkelpy0.861.05mars78&ghibly79alexrossi&mars78&ghibly79&marnem&Anon39
thedreamertranscyberian0.890.90philipma1957&727minerstarsoccer9&philipma1957&727miner&nicehash
CyberRatdnaleor0.930.75PsychoticBoy&Jouke&MitchełłPsychoticBoy&Mitchełł
bitcoinplusorgIndicators0.831.95satoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
egghead123&logocreator
mrmuellertrasla0.861.80phantastisch&SebastianJu&qwk&mameise&Akka&Aggrophobia&trepex&Menig&darkfriend77phantastisch&qwk&Akka


Visualisation of the 1st and 2nd batches of names:
  • Red'er names = larger potential alt network
  • blue'er = smaller protential alt network
  • Red edges (joining lines) = stronger trust list association
  • blue = weak trust list association

 
1008  Other / Meta / Re: Trust List Analysis - Alt Account Identification on: October 03, 2015, 05:30:28 PM
Below is a highly filtered list of the first batch of information. Notes:
  • I may provide a dump of all information at some point (100s and 100s of matches), but I want to be sure this won't be used to witchhunt the low probability links.
  • The below was manually checked however weird ones might still have gone through.
  • Based off 12th Sept trust dump, simply because its the one I already had loaded. Results are unlikely to change.
  • Data isn't being spat out in a nice form so formatting will look meh for now. I'll add in some of my other table codes in time.
  • The current version outputs in pairs, and so a 3+ way identification would appear as A|B, B|C over two lines
  • Manually moved blocks of names together
  • Each name in the trust list denominated with an &

Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
.....Really?megahash0.844.66neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_Vod&neg_starsoccer9&PatMan&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&IY…
&IYFTech&neg_iglasses&neg_bbeesley&neg_s0br&cathoderay&neg_ThePhwner&neg_instaha
neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins…
ins&neg_s0br&cathoderay&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quickseller&neg_fire000&mavericklm
IYFTechmegahash0.934.81neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_SebastianJu&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&neg_starsoccer9&squ…
squall1066&PatMan&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins&Spondoolies-Tech&neg_s0br&
neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins…
ins&neg_s0br&cathoderay&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quickseller&neg_fire000&mavericklm
bartokjogebe0.823.01Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
bartoklgtx0.862.70Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
bartoknomtka0.972.85Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
bartokteddy220.803.16Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
jogebeKujmandosz0.963.01Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
jogebelgtx0.963.01Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
jogebenolanglenn0.862.25Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartok
jogebeteddy220.973.46Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
nolanglennnomtka0.872.10Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
Kujmandoszlgtx0.882.70RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosznomtka0.852.85RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
Kujmandoszteddy220.943.16RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn&malev&nomt…
omtka&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
lgtxnolanglenn0.881.95Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartok
lgtxnomtka0.972.85Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
lgtxteddy220.943.16Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
Cryptogurujogebe0.902.55Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok
Cryptogurulgtx0.932.25Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Cryptogurunomtka0.912.40Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx&bartok
Cryptoguruteddy220.892.70Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
bbithashie1.000.60neg_Vod&neg_Blazrneg_Vod&neg_Blazr
bitcoinbearPeter Lambert0.900.75Peter Lambert&MPOE-PR&BCBMPOE-PR&BCB
bitzoxfuruknap0.911.50theymos&John (John K.)&Jutarul&MPOE-PR&burnside&TradeFortress&ThickAsThievesJohn (John K.)&MPOE-PR&burnside
daggermanleevalle0.910.75haploid23&Bitcoins101haploid23&Bitcoins101&coory
DogecoinDarkForkeningTheThreadReporter0.920.75neg_pc888&neg_bitLeap&neg_fosco333neg_bitLeap&neg_fosco333
DragooonEquate1.000.60escrow.ms&americandesiescrow.ms&americandesi
BitcoinPlusBusMarketMagic0.931.80mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatormammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
egghead123MarketMagic0.832.25mdtspain&mammix2&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis&Indic…
dicators
mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
fydeljadefalke0.801.80Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototypfydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototyp
godmode3DJohnStyles1.001.20neg_ACCTseller&neg_Quickseller&adzino&jorgelugraneg_ACCTseller&neg_Quickseller&adzino&jorgelugra
HolgerDanskPatSNL0.882.55opentoe&philipma1957&Bicknellski&klondike_bar&neg_dogie&sidehack&Stratobitz&c…
z&cathoderay&pekatete&neg_Muhammed Zakir&neg_Quickseller
Bicknellski&neg_dogie&sidehack&Stratobitz&cathoderay&pekatete
jddebugKIDC0.871.50Luke-Jr&abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknight&elgreco&KIDC&nairb131abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknight
k2_1971TheEvilOne0.900.75awgilyas&ArcticWolfieawgilyas&ArcticWolfie&k2_1971
KSSyRenity0.985.87HostFat&dooglus&Maged&gmaxwell&bitpop&Carnth&OgNasty&CanaryInTheMine&John (Jo…
(John K.)&Tomatocage&SaltySpitoon&ineededausername&DeaDTerra&BadBear&burnside&es
HostFat&dooglus&Maged&gmaxwell&bitpop&Carnth&OgNasty&CanaryInTheMine&John (Jo…
(John K.)&Tomatocage&SaltySpitoon&ineededausername&DeaDTerra&BadBear&burnside&es
mltasksolidvip0.951.05neg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclopsneg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&CPNpr
CPNprmltask0.823.16neg_Vod&neg_Tomatocage&Antuam&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops&neg_randombit&neg_BrianM&…
nM&neg_Memminger&neg_quasimodo&neg_PolyCoin-Team&solidvip&RentCute.com&Susi.D&ne
neg_Tomatocage&neg_xetsr&neg_cyclops
HaembiMota0.8515.65sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&grue&Maged&MemoryDealers&Kluge&evoorhees&rb1205&jwzguy&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&
sirius&theymos&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&dilatedPi…
dPixel&phantastisch&paraipan&danieldaniel&pekv2&Ukyo&SaltySpitoon&ineededauserna
Motascalar330.9013.69sirius&theymos&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&dilatedPi…
dPixel&phantastisch&paraipan&danieldaniel&pekv2&Ukyo&SaltySpitoon&ineededauserna
sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&Maged&Kluge&rb1205&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&tysat&dilatedPixel&Graet&Mic
mrflibblehatZirconPool1.000.60htp_23&blueshibehtp_23&blueshibe
onemorebtconemorexmr0.916.62jgarzik&Pieter Wuille&Luke-Jr&gmaxwell&evoorhees&smooth&TECSHARE&-ck&neg_smoo…
moothie&Vod&John (John K.)&Tomatocage&DeathAndTaxes&BadBear&Blazr&DannyHamilton&
theymos&jgarzik&Pieter Wuille&Luke-Jr&dooglus&gmaxwell&smooth&TECSHARE&OgNast…
asty&-ck&neg_smoothie&Vod&John (John K.)&neg_Tomatocage&DeathAndTaxes&BadBear&ne
Pokokohua!Pry4u0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
Pokokohua!SLok0.891.65Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&Inaba&gmaxwell&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
Pry4uSLok1.000.90Inaba&BFL&BFL_JoshInaba&BFL&BFL_Josh
RaizeU1TRA_L0RD0.895.11Keefe&casascius&John (John K.)&ngzhang&legolouman&xiangfu&gateship&serp&sahka…
hkan&last2stand
theymos&Keefe&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&casascius&Luke-Jr&dooglus&Raize&Maged&S…
d&Stemby&ziomik&John (John K.)&ercolinux&ngzhang&legolouman&xiangfu&diego1000&ga

Person APerson BSimilarityComplexityPerson A's Trust ListPerson B's Trust List
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
cathoderaylobogil0.764.51CanaryInTheMine&neg_Vod&neg_starsoccer9&neg_DiamondCardz&PatMan&neg_sdp&Bickn…
cknellski&neg_dogie&IYFTech&neg_ghash.io&neg_CEX&neg_crilleaz&neg_s0br&pekatete&
neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&neg_sdp&neg_dogie&neg_s0br&neg_ThePhwner&neg_ACCTseller&n…
r&neg_Quickseller&neg_fire000
blarneystonep3yot33at3r0.696.92neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&eleuthria&-ck&kano&Xian01&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_AMT…
AMT_miners&neg_rikkie&neg_hashcoins&cathoderay&pekatete&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quicks
neg_Luke-Jr&Matt Corallo&neg_Inaba&eleuthria&phelix&-ck&neg_Vod&kano&philipma…
pma1957&Bicknellski&neg_marto74&neg_dogie&domob&FallingKnife&neg_AMT_miners&neg_
IYFTechPatMan0.568.57neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&neg_SebastianJu&neg_Vod&neg_BadBear&neg_starsoccer9&squ…
squall1066&PatMan&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_hashcoins&Spondoolies-Tech&neg_s0br&
neg_Inaba&eleuthria&gmaxwell&scribe&-ck&yxt&Mjbmonetarymetals&MrTeal&neg_Diam…
iamondCardz&squall1066&piit79&Easy2Mine&cupofsoup&Bicknellski&hotwired007&edgar&
FreekiieeL3pje0.791.95p_wetsteijn&alphapilot&L3pje&corp&Destrega&KoningSilkp_wetsteijn&alphapilot&corp&Freekiiee&Destrega&KoningSilk&bitspender
ercolinuxziomik0.764.36HostFat&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ziomik&Cripto&marnem&palatinetheymos&HostFat&wariner&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&bitcoin…
oinplaza&ZuonKing&bertani&Cripto&alexrossi&Pitchotto&androz&gdassori&ghibly79&ma
fydelHermann13370.762.10Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototypfydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenet
Hermann1337jadefalke0.762.10fydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenetfydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototyp
Hermann1337Sy0.762.10fydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenetXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
baby222scarsbergholden0.761.35qwep&Argwai96&marcotheminer&Cryptockqwep&Argwai96&baby222&Cryptock&jonson234
bitcoinplazaHostFat0.764.66theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertanitheymos&dooglus&gmaxwell&rb1205&paci&neg_CanaryInTheMine&Stemby&ziomik&neg_Vo…
_Vod&ercolinux&BadBear&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Cripto&gdassori&ghibly79&
fydelPrototyp0.762.25Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototypfydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenet
jadefalkePrototyp0.762.25fydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototypfydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenet
aikunsatudezoel0.751.35dezoel&Punggawa&lakepopo&(0_0)izanagi&Punggawa&lakepopo&(0_0)&aikunsatu
Prototypvertoe0.748.42fydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenetfydel&blizzen&Pago85&iHeartSmartArt&FreedomCoin&oaxaca&Sy&rdnkjdi&BrainShutdo…
tdown&atomicchaos&mikaelh&losh11&smtn512&bertlebbert&tombtc&kiindje&AizenSou&spl
BitcoinPlusBusegghead1230.741.95mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatormdtspain&mammix2&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis&Indic…
dicators
androzbitcoinplaza0.743.31paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
theymos&HostFat&paci&Stemby&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&bertani
VERUMinNUMERISVlad2Vlad0.736.77markm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
satoshi&Gavin Andresen&markm&Oldminer&twobits&Nasakioto&kelsey&Stunna&edgar&a…
r&ahmed_bodi&Jdtmp4&shakezula&deadsea33&iGotSpots&AZIZ1977&VERUMinNUMERIS&r3wt&a
DRKLorddrkprincess0.722.702dogs&BitcoinPappi&LouReed&cooldgamer&notserp&theonewhowaskazu&Interized&vert…
ertoe&turtlehurricane&jamesbond700&xXBEVOXx&drkprincess
2dogs&BitcoinPappi&notserp&vertoe&xXBEVOXx&DRKLord
SolomonRisingVlad2Vlad0.726.92satoshi&markm&Oldminer&Nasakioto&frobley&kelsey&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNU…
nNUMERIS&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&IXC2XIC
satoshi&Gavin Andresen&markm&Oldminer&twobits&Nasakioto&kelsey&Stunna&edgar&a…
r&ahmed_bodi&Jdtmp4&shakezula&deadsea33&iGotSpots&AZIZ1977&VERUMinNUMERIS&r3wt&a
blizzenfydel0.723.31SebastianJu&yxt&qwk&mameise&Haeralith&fronti&bitcats&Akka&Sy&Aggrophobia&dark…
arkfriend77&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
bitdanielfrelex0.721.352weiX&John (John K.)&candoo&Menig2weiX&John (John K.)&Tomatocage&Akka&Menig
cinnamon_carterphoton_coin0.712.85satoshi&dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&fedde&photon_coin&chiguireitor&m…
r&mmpool&electron-coin&mrbodi&lithiumc
dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&chiguireitor&mmpool&elec…
lectron-coin&mrbodi
Stembyziomik0.715.26HostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
theymos&HostFat&wariner&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&bitcoin…
oinplaza&ZuonKing&bertani&Cripto&alexrossi&Pitchotto&androz&gdassori&ghibly79&ma
androzZuonKing0.712.85paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
HostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
StembyZuonKing0.702.85HostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
HostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
jadefalkevertoe0.707.97fydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&Prototypfydel&blizzen&Pago85&iHeartSmartArt&FreedomCoin&oaxaca&Sy&rdnkjdi&BrainShutdo…
tdown&atomicchaos&mikaelh&losh11&smtn512&bertlebbert&tombtc&kiindje&AizenSou&spl
palatineStemby0.703.46HostFat&Stemby&ziomik&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi&androz&marnem&LairewHostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
jleeflynishtrip150.692.85OgNasty&Cray-1&Inglewood&monbux&nahtnam&firejuan&jamiecruickshank&death_hawk&…
wk&Coinbuddy&cr4sh0verride&firepredator&thealtcoinguy
Cray-1&Inglewood&jamiecruickshank&death_hawk&firepredator&matt2matt&markus8539
ArcticWolfieTheEvilOne0.691.05awgilyas&arielbit&k2_1971&TheEvilOneawgilyas&ArcticWolfie&k2_1971
PRabruneks0.691.95Gavin Andresen&jgarzik&casascius&Pieter Wuille&goatpig&gmaxwell&etotheipiGavin Andresen&jgarzik&Pieter Wuille&JoelKatz&etotheipi&friedcat
HostFatZuonKing0.694.21theymos&dooglus&gmaxwell&rb1205&paci&neg_CanaryInTheMine&Stemby&ziomik&neg_Vo…
_Vod&ercolinux&BadBear&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Cripto&gdassori&ghibly79&
HostFat&paci&ziomik&diego1000&ghibly79
Hermann1337Prototyp0.672.55fydel&crzr&Sy&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp&ltcsharenetfydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenet
SolomonRisingVERUMinNUMERIS0.673.46satoshi&markm&Oldminer&Nasakioto&frobley&kelsey&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNU…
nNUMERIS&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&IXC2XIC
markm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
ercolinuxStemby0.663.31HostFat&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ziomik&Cripto&marnem&palatineHostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
DragonDmGitraxe0.660.90itraxe&Eugenok&vanyabiosEugenok&DragonDmG&vanyabios
twbtyxt0.661.50phantastisch&qwk&fronti&Akka&lassdas&Neupleuqwk&fronti&Akka&rage1337
harlemxhashcoins0.631.50Killa&n00ber&hashcoinsharlemx&Killa&n00ber&oomi0010&Umberg&johny08&1DanieL
IXC2XICVlad2Vlad0.636.77theymos&Tomatocage&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&shakezula&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNUM…
NUMERIS&Dexter44&iampingu&KeyserSozeMC
satoshi&Gavin Andresen&markm&Oldminer&twobits&Nasakioto&kelsey&Stunna&edgar&a…
r&ahmed_bodi&Jdtmp4&shakezula&deadsea33&iGotSpots&AZIZ1977&VERUMinNUMERIS&r3wt&a
corpFreekiiee0.631.35p_wetsteijn&L3pje&Freekiieep_wetsteijn&alphapilot&L3pje&corp&Destrega&KoningSilk
einsteinium.bizOldminer0.635.41Oldminer&djnocide&Armis&einsteiniumneg_dooglus&edric&elkrisi&neg_jackjack&Moray&fhh&neg_aa&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNUME…
UMERIS&bitdigger2013&Redcoin&neg_Spoetnik&IXC2XIC&z21770179&IronMarvel&mrlotto&b
corpL3pje0.621.50p_wetsteijn&L3pje&Freekiieep_wetsteijn&alphapilot&corp&Freekiiee&Destrega&KoningSilk&bitspender
fydelSy0.621.80Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&PrototypXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
jadefalkeSy0.621.80fydel&Sy&AizenSou&goto2013&vertoe&PrototypXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
bitcoinplusorgMarketMagic0.622.70satoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis
CJBiancoLesbian Cow0.616.02smoothie&Scott J&dozerz&bigtimespaghetti&BG4&monkeynuts&miffman&saveawedge&ma…
&master-P&TookDk&Mitchełł&cyclops&Blazedout419&FiniteByDesign&hilariou
OgNasty&TookDk&djjacket&cyclops&Blazedout419&snarlpill&TheAnalogKid
TookDkwheresmycoin0.602.25PsychoticBoy&philipma1957&escrow.ms&monkeynuts&master-P&tyrion70&Mitcheł…
22;ł&djjacket&Blazedout419&iglasses&CryptoImperator&neg_WoodCollector
bigtimespaghetti&CryptoImperator&WoodCollector
eneloopPaintShopPro60.601.05CanaryInTheMine&SebastianJu&SilentSonicBoomCanaryInTheMine&iluvpcs&SilentSonicBoom&vnhyp0
dobbscoinEndCiv0.600.60EndCiv&Robert_Doriandobbscoin&Robert_Dorian
PaintShopPro6vnhyp00.591.50CanaryInTheMine&iluvpcs&SilentSonicBoom&vnhyp0CanaryInTheMine&iluvpcs&SilentSonicBoom&TracerX&babaji.ca&PaintShopPro6
DRKLordshadowhax0.592.402dogs&BitcoinPappi&LouReed&cooldgamer&notserp&theonewhowaskazu&Interized&vert…
ertoe&turtlehurricane&jamesbond700&xXBEVOXx&drkprincess
BitcoinPappi&notserp&jbreen1&turtlehurricane
komodovpnmrflibblehat0.590.90jeffersonairplane&Bryce1733&htp_23&ACCTsellerhtp_23&blueshibe
komodovpnZirconPool0.590.90jeffersonairplane&Bryce1733&htp_23&ACCTsellerhtp_23&blueshibe
PrototypSy0.592.25fydel&blizzen&Sy&AizenSou&Hermann1337&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&ltcsharenetXer0&fydel&goto2013&vertoe&jadefalke&Prototyp
cinnamon_carterlithiumc0.582.70satoshi&dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&fedde&photon_coin&chiguireitor&m…
r&mmpool&electron-coin&mrbodi&lithiumc
satoshi&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&photon_coin&BlakeBitcoin&elec…
lectron-coin
abracadabrajddebug0.571.50wknight&jddebug&KIDCLuke-Jr&abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknight&elgreco&KIDC&nairb131
lithiumcphoton_coin0.572.25satoshi&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&photon_coin&BlakeBitcoin&elec…
lectron-coin
dreamwatcher&Vlad2Vlad&BlueDragon747&cinnamon_carter&chiguireitor&mmpool&elec…
lectron-coin&mrbodi
luv2drnkbrMicon0.572.10theymos&Gavin Andresen&FreeMoney&casascius&evoorhees&Micon&FassadeGavin Andresen&FreeMoney&casascius&dooglus&evoorhees&iCEBREAKER&MsBitcoin
blarneystonePatSNL0.563.61neg_Luke-Jr&neg_Inaba&eleuthria&-ck&kano&Xian01&Bicknellski&neg_dogie&neg_AMT…
AMT_miners&neg_rikkie&neg_hashcoins&cathoderay&pekatete&neg_ThePhwner&neg_Quicks
Bicknellski&neg_dogie&sidehack&Stratobitz&cathoderay&pekatete
Breen2543rouf5530.561.35rouf553&rig007&cryptomaker22Wardrick&cryptostore07&Breen2543&rig007&cryptomaker22&Online24o0n
palatineziomik0.564.51HostFat&Stemby&ziomik&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi&androz&marnem&Lairewtheymos&HostFat&wariner&rb1205&paci&Stemby&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&bitcoin…
oinplaza&ZuonKing&bertani&Cripto&alexrossi&Pitchotto&androz&gdassori&ghibly79&ma
KIDCwknight0.553.16abracadabra&GenTarkin&wknightruss&JWU42&strombom&heinz&abracadabra&GenTarkin&juggalodarkclow&jddebug&elgre…
greco&KIDC&RoboCoder&chynnc&terrapinflyer&hayseed&insanetackle&DaveF&Coopster888
abracadabrawknight0.553.16wknight&jddebug&KIDCruss&JWU42&strombom&heinz&abracadabra&GenTarkin&juggalodarkclow&jddebug&elgre…
greco&KIDC&RoboCoder&chynnc&terrapinflyer&hayseed&insanetackle&DaveF&Coopster888
2501algorista0.542.10andrehorta&DanielBTC&algorista&duduqa&Adrianosatoshi&theymos&ThiagoCMC&pafu&rudrigorc2&andrehorta&2501&DanielBTC&duduqa
bitcoinplusorgegghead1230.542.85satoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
mdtspain&mammix2&oldnoob&BitcoinPlusBus&jjmv&logocreator&tellitlikeitis&Indic…
dicators
ArcticWolfieawgilyas0.541.50awgilyas&arielbit&k2_1971&TheEvilOneBitweasil&DebitMe&SilentSonicBoom&ArcticWolfie&k2_1971&TheEvilOne
androzStemby0.544.21paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
HostFat&rb1205&paci&ziomik&ercolinux&eliale&diego1000&kelpy&bertani&alexrossi…
ssi&androz&marnem&palatine&davvo
alexr_96SUPERANTONIO0.521.35jaime&VEscudero&LuisCar&ioxoi&Antuam&SUPERANTONIOflix&LuisCar&Antuam
Coiner.dephantastisch0.524.66stellan0r&phantastisch&Akka&trepex&Zephirtheymos&molecular&stellan0r&tysat&SebastianJu&yxt&qwk&neg_Matthew N. Wright&J…
t&John (John K.)&Tomatocage&neg_candoo&BadBear&frank600&fhh&Akka&neg_Freedom24&C
androzarulbero0.513.16paci&Stemby&yxt&ziomik&ercolinux&diego1000&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Stunna&alexr…
exrossi&serge79&ghibly79&palatine
HostFat&kelpy&GIANNAT&bertani&Pitchotto&mars78&ghibly79
IXC2XICVERUMinNUMERIS0.503.31theymos&Tomatocage&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&shakezula&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&VERUMinNUM…
NUMERIS&Dexter44&iampingu&KeyserSozeMC
markm&frobley&kelsey&ahmed_bodi&deadsea33&Vlad2Vlad&Dexter44&cinnamon_carter&…
er&IXC2XIC&mrcashking&SolomonRising
DiThiReCat0.501.20theymos&Rassah&Wolf0&ReCatedd&Rassah&DiThi&Wolf0
le4chnationTRICHED0.500.60TRICHED&NUMORPHONEle4chnation&NUMORPHONE
NUMORPHONETRICHED0.500.60TRICHED&le4chnationle4chnation&NUMORPHONE
malevnolanglenn0.890.90Kujmandosz&RaymondKaKujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartok
Haembiscalar330.8619.41sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&grue&Maged&MemoryDealers&Kluge&evoorhees&rb1205&jwzguy&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&
sirius&theymos&HostFat&Gavin Andresen&MagicalTux&mikegogulski&Luke-Jr&dooglus…
lus&Maged&Kluge&rb1205&paci&Carnth&TECSHARE&Caesium&tysat&dilatedPixel&Graet&Mic
ahmed_bodiahmedbodi0.812.55westkybitcoins&Jdtmp4&krasnyoktyabr&coinerd&sumantso&Vlad2Vlad&r3wt&ahmedbodi…
odi&fishy&majsta&gary492&bitezze&coinbloke&saxman717&mrbodi
ahmed_bodi&mrbodi
BitcoinPlusBusbitcoinplusorg0.882.40mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&jjmv&logocreatorsatoshi&Eric&SunnyKing&mindfox&mdtspain&dasource&mammix2&egghead123&oldnoob&j…
b&jjmv&logocreator
nolanglennteddy220.862.40Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&malev&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&juditbajzak&malev&nomtka&bartok&jogebe
resUnioCShrishti0.841.95neg_Vod&neg_Blazr&neg_arallmuus&neg_JorgeStolfi&CoinFriend&neg_deluxeCITY&neg…
neg_Quickseller&Shrishti&Sr.Vamp&neg_costgranda&neg_jorgelugra
CoinFriend&Sr.Vamp
Cryptogurumalev0.851.20Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&coinmester1995&bearcat10&nolanglenn&bartokKujmandosz&RaymondKa
lgtxmalev0.831.65Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&bartok
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa
bartokmalev0.831.65Kujmandosz&RaymondKa&Cryptoguru&coinmester1995&mycoin744&bearcat10&nolanglenn…
enn&malev&lgtx
Kujmandosz&RaymondKa
traslatwbt0.881.35phantastisch&qwk&Akkaphantastisch&qwk&fronti&Akka&lassdas&Neupleu
1009  Other / Meta / Trust List Analysis - Alt Account Identification on: October 03, 2015, 05:30:24 PM
Following on from the Trust list visualisations thread and the ethics consultation thread, I've decided to release the analysis of a tool which may be able to identify multiple accounts which belong to the same owner. While some of the results are statistically significant, this should still only constitute one piece of evidence of a link between accounts.

The methodology is less important than the output, which can be confirmed and visualised manually.
  • The addition of "DefaultTrust" is excluded and not counted
  • Trust lists with only "DefaultTrust" (unedited) are not included
  • The polarity of ratings is taken into account
  • Certain users like KWH have giant trust lists and so they break the system a bit. Should be excluded

Along with potentially linked accounts, the list below has 2 numerical metrics attached:
  • Complexity: A measure of how complicated the trust lists being looked at are. The scale is a bit weird in this version, starting at 0.3 for 1 item and going up by 0.3 for each additional item
  • Similarity: A measure of how similar trust lists between the users are. 1.0 = identical lists, anything below 0.8 is discarded for now but there are many positive results from this range to be reviewed later.
1010  Other / Meta / Re: Trust List Analysis - Ethics on: October 03, 2015, 03:41:59 PM
@dogie could you provide any details on the method(s) you used? I think it would help to understand how significant the results are.
If I do then this will probably be a one off - it'll inform those who could potentially be revealed in the future how to reverse engineer it to protect themselves from this analysis. The methodology is also not too important with this kind of thing and that'll make more sense once its posted. Essentially the clever stuff just deals with the 10,000s of accounts and the output is relatively simple.
1011  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 03, 2015, 11:50:15 AM
Why the desire to replace the fans? If you expect to reduce noise by simply putting in a quieter fan, plan on substantially reducing the hash rate as well. Bitmain didn't put LOUD fans in on a whim. It takes serious airflow to cool a 1200W heater (i.e. the S7). The fans Bitmain chose push a lot of air, with enough pressure to get it through the dense heatsinks inside the enclosure.

I'm running my S7 @ stock speed @ 2500rpm fans @ 30C ambient without issue. Its not inconceivable that one might be able to do the same after replacing fans given a lower ambient. Also worth remembering that both the ASICMiner Tube and Prisma cooled ~1KW through a longer heatsink using a single fan. And in the case of the ASICMiner Tube it was possible to replace the fan with 2x Corsair SP120s which are quite a way under the NF-F12s.

interesting...what is % setting and its boards temp? thanks
30% fans, 66C highest board.


Whether it's custom firmware or not, does the S7 Beagle-Bone have an SD card slot? Does Bitmain have an S7 "Rescue Firmware" image available yet? Not pressing for me, but some folks might be interested.
Mine did have an SD card slot, not sure about the "new" version of the controller.
1012  Other / Meta / Re: Trust List Analysis - Ethics on: October 03, 2015, 11:41:49 AM
Please name & shame this person publicly.
He posted above you.


I'd urge to provide the tool to the community as well, so that anyone can independently verify your results.
I don't propose to share the tool as it could be mis-used or edited into a form to fit a particular narrative, and its a .xlsm so you couldn't be sure it didn't contain malicious code until it was executed.


But I didn't get that part. Alts are added into their trust list Huh
Its both more and less complicated than that, and I probably won't go into too much detail on the methodology in order to keep up its usefulness for now.

This version of the analysis has suggested 6 pairs then (very) weakly 100 or so other pairs. The next version will suggest many more pairs strongly and so actually be useful, but its got to be done from scratch so it may take a few nights to complete. Unless I here any compelling arguments against, this will get posted.
1013  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: tax customs in different countries on: October 03, 2015, 11:29:27 AM
Bitmain will not send lower invoice, I already tried everything. Don't waste your time, it's a monopoly and they will not care.
Of course they won't illegally lie to save you money.


I will make a proposal to bitmain, to save the people who live in the European community, so as not to pay so much money for the customs duty
They are not going to illegally lie to save you money, if you're also proposing low invoice amounts.
1014  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk takes too long to load. on: October 03, 2015, 11:28:02 AM
There were also reports like this with the old server which was located on a different continent, had quite a different setup, etc. My guess is that Internet connections between certain regions just kind of suck, and you don't see it all too often because big websites have servers located all over the globe (unlike the forum's single server).

Isn't it a problem in itself to declare that entire countries simply can't get good access to the server? In the UK we have two national networks and that's it, you're either one or the other and both will externally route the same way.
1015  Other / Meta / Re: Abuse or not? on: October 03, 2015, 11:26:05 AM
I just think selling the accounts is an issue when they have feedback.

Even just having multiple non declared accounts is an issue. I've still not heard a good reason for not making it known that you have more than 1 account.
1016  Other / Meta / Trust List Analysis - Ethics on: October 03, 2015, 12:47:19 AM
Hello all,

I was spending some time with the new Excel and decided to code something that analysed the trust list dumps in a different way to the visualisations. Essentially this tool is able to identify multiple accounts which may belong to the same owner. The results are statistically significant however should still only constitute one piece of evidence of a link between accounts.

Rather than going into detail, I wanted to ask what people's thoughts are on the privacy issue surrounding trust lists. One person I contacted felt it was a personal intrusion that I had looked at their list (I've looked at all lists), even though the information was public and actively shared. Additionally, this tool may 'out' alt accounts which aren't nessecarily doing anything wrong or may indicate a link when there isn't one.

Vote above, I'll create a new thread if it comes to posting it.


tldr: made a tool that may identify alt accounts, should it be posted?
1017  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: October 02, 2015, 10:40:09 PM
Hello my friends.
Im new in mining and im waiing for my S7. I did my own math and since i've got free electricity (i'm lucky... i know) the business is good.

One doubt about the S7 Fans, anyone has the specs?
Im thinking in changing the fans for example NOCTUA NF-F12 PWM 120mm Focused Flow PWM Cooling Fan.
Do you think is good idea?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Why the desire to replace the fans? If you expect to reduce noise by simply putting in a quieter fan, plan on substantially reducing the hash rate as well. Bitmain didn't put LOUD fans in on a whim. It takes serious airflow to cool a 1200W heater (i.e. the S7). The fans Bitmain chose push a lot of air, with enough pressure to get it through the dense heatsinks inside the enclosure.

I'm running my S7 @ stock speed @ 2500rpm fans @ 30C ambient without issue. Its not inconceivable that one might be able to do the same after replacing fans given a lower ambient. Also worth remembering that both the ASICMiner Tube and Prisma cooled ~1KW through a longer heatsink using a single fan. And in the case of the ASICMiner Tube it was possible to replace the fan with 2x Corsair SP120s which are quite a way under the NF-F12s.
1018  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk takes too long to load. on: October 02, 2015, 09:55:17 PM
I'm on about 2 weeks now. Pages part load, load but then say they're not loaded completely or never respond to page requests at all.
1019  Other / Meta / Re: how does posting work here (technical details)? on: October 02, 2015, 03:02:51 AM
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=453008.0 updated with http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/SMF_API should help. Both link to further documentation on SM's API which is at least a start for bitcointalk which is a semi-custom SMF implementation.
1020  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Sooo, What reputable mining rig manufactures are left? on: October 01, 2015, 04:48:17 PM
Antminer mines with the rigs before shipping
Speculation by people who don't like Bitmain. Products are created in giant batches and are racked until sold, warranty is the same as ever.


SpondooliesTech, but looking at their website, it looks a little fishy with EVERYTHING "Out of Stock"... looks like they are closing up shop?
Selling under NDA and to large buyers only.
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