Micon, why is bitdaytrade on the list. I couldn't care less, but having legit stuff on there kindof invalidates the whole list. At least give reasons.

Cute that you added your sitepro stats, from 2007 to 2012 you earned the following per year before deducting any backing funds, this comes in most places far less than any minimum wage and you wonder why people in the poker community laugh at you calling yourself a pro.

2012   $ 32,832   $ 32,832 -> After backer fees this may aswell read $0.
2011   $ 65,596   $ 65,596 -> You cant afford slots with this yearly income so who did you scam to roll you for slot mastery ?
2010   $ 34,066   $ 34,066 -> After backer fees this is likely closer to $0 aswell, true champ.
2009   $ 77,287   $ 77,287 -> Great year, still far below any average educated job, must have gone on a diet this year.
2008   $ 30,419   $ 30,419 -> Not sure how you could afford your own home with this yearly income before taxes.
2007   $ 6,021   $ 6,021 -> deduct backer fees, I bet you ate sand this whole year, Im sure you dont want to be back in 2007.

Like I said before you may have been a decent player up till 2006 but I would guess mostly a lucky donk when competition was as easy as pie but since then it clearly shows you are anything but a surviving poker player.

If I cared more I would have traced down to the $0 on your tournament winnings. No need for me to even look at your sng winnings, thats all in the minus in recent years.

This is too subjective. Some would say that even BS&T has revealed its business model sufficiently.

If I find one (or even a few) rotten apples in a basket, should I then label the basket "Rotten apples"?

So we can now add, in bulk, all mining bonds to the OP list of Ponzis.

Holy crap there is not a single investement that is not a Ponzi.

Yep, Micon's an extremely suspect individual.   

Someone mentioned that there is a Bryan Micon poker system.
So I googled and clicked on www.micon secrets.com  (remove the space)
As soon as it opened, his website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
Luckily for me, aviria catched it. Avira description about the backdoor: http://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-description/tid/7512/tlang/en
I confronted Micon with this and, of course, he just claims that it is not his site.
Maybe I am wrong but I don't think that there are that many Bryan Micons out there that try to sell some poker system.

I just navigated to http://www.miconsecrets.com and the "me-con" man struck again.
His website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
I think this should be posted on the scam section of the forum. Can somebody else please confirm?

I created the subforum. Someone else can move the posts.

3.) He got kicked out of the realmoney poker society(everyone rates him as the laughing stock due to his scummy attitude) and found bitcoin and associated himself immediately with the most active bitcoin pokersite which he now spams all over the internet which sadly hurts bitcoin and bitcoin poker more simply because he is associated with it.

This "no freedom of choice" remark is absolutely false. Look at OP: this is simply about not endorsing fraud on the forum.

No one has said that the threads should be deleted, not allowed, etc. We're talking about not labeling them "lending" and stickying them. Sheesh!

Your last remark convinces me that you're not the naive defender I initially took you for; you seem to be complicit in the fraud.

1st.....  in line @ www.sealswithclubs.eu while liking it @ https://www.facebook.com/sealswithclubs and following @ https://twitter.com/SealsWithClubs

I am a very active lender and have been for a long time (long in Bitcoin time that is).  You can see from the OP in my thread just how many public loans I have on my books and how many public loans have been paid off.  The only reason that there are not a lot more loans listed is that many people who borrow from me have asked to not be listed publicly.  I make loans all the time. I do also take deposits when people are interested in a long term safe "certificate of deposit" type account.

I also happen to have a trust account at BS&T.  I have met Pirate personally.  I have discussed his business with him over dinner and I understand it pretty well. I am personally convinced that it is not a ponzi.  So, I also offer people the option, if they are so inclined, to open an account at BS&T through me.  If I thought it was a ponzi I would not be involved in it at all.

Having said all that I would be willing to remove the one single line in my OP that mentions BS&T if asked.  My deposit/lending business is separate from the BS&T account offering anyway.

Flame on, Micon.

Hey, that rhymes!

No, no, no.
If he didn't do it, someone else would have. He's located a demand in a market and he's making a buck, like all the PPT operators. Idk why I've been sticking up for these guys, maybe because your accusing them makes your cause look like a witch hunt when it shouldn't be. You're not going to scare away all the PPTs. People who want to give to Pirate will find away to do so. I'd run a PPT right now if I could and I wouldn't think twice about the ethics of it.
 
I'm sure there are far better analogies than this one off the top of my head... are syringe manufacturers in the wrong by making it easier for heroin addicts to shoot up?

@Micon
There is no telling of a lending program that might turn out to be a ponzi solely based on it's APR alone. Heck, most if not all deposit programs in the Lending subforum would be ponzi schemes then. A low return program might turn out to be a secret PPT, thus folding shop if something happens with Pirate.

"If BST fails, so does this" - this means the passthrough operator doesn't have evidence one way or another whether it's a scam or not but is willing to let individual lenders make up their own mind.