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2141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impressive bitcoin one liners for non bitcoiners on: November 11, 2012, 12:16:47 PM
Cute.. but  'speed of light' aside... I like it as just 'dollars and cents squared'
Basically it's saying  Bitcoin is money with an extra dimension.

BTC =  $

Best yet, thanks you guys, going in my sig next week when BFL ad expires - unless they renew.
2142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impressive bitcoin one liners for non bitcoiners on: November 11, 2012, 12:20:58 AM


where E is Bitcoin, m is money, and c is the speed of light.


= $


Nice.

Where E is eCurrency (BTC/Bitcoin), m is money ($), and c is the speed of light.

BTC = $c2

I like it so much, it's going into my sig.

~Bruno K~


Glad that you like, when I first tried with the forum BTC symbol it gave:  BTC =  $
which I also liked & am glad to see posted.
2143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impressive bitcoin one liners for non bitcoiners on: November 10, 2012, 04:18:14 PM
Bitcoin is to currency what the Internet was to the printing press.

(pse excuse if already posted or similar)
2144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impressive bitcoin one liners for non bitcoiners on: November 10, 2012, 03:54:19 PM


where E is Bitcoin, m is money, and c is the speed of light.


= $
2145  Economy / Speculation / Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on! on: November 10, 2012, 12:07:34 PM
Bitcoin's week ahead, Saturday, 10 November 2012

Current cosmic challenges and opportunities are connected with the need for you to know your limitations. Now, before we go any further, let us consider how you feel when you read that statement. Are you inclined to think, 'Oh, is he telling me that I must not be so ambitious?' Well, actually, no. Sometimes, we do ourselves far more harm when we underestimate our abilities. You now see yourself as restricted in an area of life where you have a lot of power and freedom. This week's eclipse will help you understand that.

PS an edit added to end of eclipse post above
2146  Economy / Speculation / Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on! on: November 09, 2012, 09:30:29 AM
Since when does astrology matter?

Since ppl first became aware & started trying to figure stuff out, you could call it the beginnings of science.
2147  Economy / Speculation / Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on! on: November 09, 2012, 09:23:33 AM
Bitcoin's horoscopes for Friday November 9, 2012

The history of science contains many tales of code breakers who were able to detect hidden messages by studying complex patterns. But it is not just in the realm of mathematics that such secrets are waiting to be revealed. Someone in your world now, is saying one thing but doing another. You have got to try to find some way to accurately read and understand the information you are receiving. The difficulty is, you can't be entirely logical about it. There are emotional issues at stake. But you will yet make sense of it.

November's Eclipses

There are 2 eclipses this month, a total solar one on the 13th which is the new moon & a deep penumbral lunar one on the 28th which is the full moon & happens to be nicely timed to coincide with the expected date approx of the block reward halving, good stuff Smiley edit: In astrology eclipses symbolize when life brings us the chance to wipe a slate clean and start again.

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCSEmap/2001-2100/2012-11-13.gif

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCLEmap/2001-2100/LE2012-11-28N.gif
2148  Economy / Collectibles / Re: CASASCIUS PHYSICAL BITCOIN - In Stock Now! (pic) on: November 08, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
I've been wondering for a while, how secure are these 'coins' compared to those held in cold storage? are these a form of cold storage? sorry if this has been asked and answered before, don't want to read almost 500 posts to find out.


also, i think it'd be awesome to hold a poker tournament with these coins.

"i'll see your call, and raise you 1 billion satoshis" *pinkie finger on bottom lip* nyah nyah

If you make your own cold storage then you don't need to trust a third party, in this case Casascius, you can also store copies of your private keys in more than 1 physical location, Casascius does offer his 1,000 btc gold 1 Oz coin with a dual generated private key so that he can not know it & perhaps with his no denomination savings bars one can get copies of the private key so as to have a back up for security, the ideal may be to have both of these options on one product.

I look forward to seeing some photos of a poker game with Cas coins as chips.
2149  Economy / Collectibles / Re: CASASCIUS PHYSICAL BITCOIN - In Stock Now! (pic) on: November 08, 2012, 02:43:14 PM
I ordered a dozen of these for Christmas, they seem like a great stocking stuffer and I was wondering about some capsules, I was looking at these on e-bay
10 DIRECT FIT 29MM COIN CAPSULES http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-DIRECT-FIT-29MM-COIN-CAPSULES-HOLDERS-/120809904131?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c20d4d803
I see the coins are 28.6 mm in diameter I think that part should be ok, I was more worried about the thickness I don't see any dimensions listed on the site I assume the coins should fit inside?

I use Air-Tite capsules from http://www.valleycoin.com/ who also sell stuff on eBay, now days I just order direct from them, Air-Tite have a very high reputation for quality, I find the 28 mm ring capsules a very good fit for Casascius single bitcoins & expect that 29 mm direct fit capsules would work very well too but unfortunately don't see this size listed by ValleyCoins - I've tried the 30 mm & they rattle around a bit, also being thinner than the capsule thickness allows for they will rattle a bit anyway, you can just squeeze 2 in to a capsule.

I have found that plastic film roll contains are perfect for loose 1 bitcoins & think that they would hold about 33 or 34 coins, there are plenty of varieties of these on eBay - I prefer the clear transparent ones, most are more opaque though.









2150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Happy halving day on: November 07, 2012, 08:26:26 PM
Does anyone has a good guess when it will happen? If it's 6 blocks / hour it should be the 29th in the morning (UTC).

Wed Nov 28th 7pm ET!

Whenever it is we're ha(l)ving a party at Seals.

2012 11 28 would be cool as it's the full moon for extra emotional intensity & partying, it's also a penumbral lunar eclipse & they don't just happen every day ~ good stuff, it's also my birthday ftw Smiley
2151  Economy / Speculation / Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on! on: November 07, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Bitcoin's horoscope for the week of November 8, 2012

http://www.freewillastrology.com/horoscopes/tarot_cards/tarot15.jpg  A farmer in Japan found a 56-leaf clover. Well, actually, he bred it in his garden at home. It took effort on his part. Presumably, it provided him with 14 times the luck of a mere four-leaf clover. I don't think your good karma will be quite that extravagant in the coming week, Bitcoin, but there's a decent chance you'll get into at least the 16-leaf realm. To raise your odds of approaching the 56-leaf level of favorable fortune, remember this: Luck tends to flow in the direction of those who work hard to prepare for it and earn it.
2152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins at the British Museum on: November 07, 2012, 08:44:05 AM
It seems ironic to me that some of those at the forefront of bitcoin's development think it unwise to send bitcoins to the British Museum's exhibition coin in order to show support & demonstrate just how & why it is so much different & better than every single other item in their exhibition on the history & evolution of money, if I were instead to just write to them expressing my approval of their decision to include bitcoins in their collection & enclosed a fiat cheque for £10 or so to show my appreciation I imagine that you'd be OK with this but just feel nervous because ppl may send them some bitcoins without first asking them if this is OK, well it's already been done so can't be undone - I don't feel like making a big deal over this & think it best to not contact them, at least for now, then to come back to this in a few months time when their coin will be a more long term established part of their exhibition & either themselves or perhaps some journalist or other interested party, perhaps yourselves, will have enlightened them as to just how awesome they could make this display by including a QR code & tablet with blockchain info etc which is something else to consider donating to them for this, anyway I'll drop it for now & just watch how things evolve over the next few months re this but I do hope that a few more ppl will also send the coin some funds so that if they do check it out they can see this happening.
2153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins at the British Museum on: November 07, 2012, 12:10:00 AM
they encourage & accept cash donations in any fiat or whatever ppl choose to drop in their bins, Krugerrands - Bitcoins whatever, they have no problem with anonymous gifts in any reasonable form...

That's true in the donation boxes, because if they don't like or can't accept a donation, they can and will dispose of it however they please.

They can and will also dispose of the bitcoin exhibit if they decide they can't accept donations through it and can't otherwise stop them, presumably something we'd like to avoid, right?  I mean, if we didn't care about the exhibit remaining on display, then sure, I'd say donate all you want through it.


lol - they won't take the coin off display just because some random ppl have sent it some funds

Again, you do not know this for a fact.  This is your opinion and your guess, which may differ from their opinion, the only opinion that matters.


I've had personal dealings with them over a number of years so feel qualified to make such assumptions, np & sure I may be proved wrong about this - I will just ask them directly next week if they have any problem with this.
2154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins at the British Museum on: November 06, 2012, 11:48:02 PM
It is not a donation, see my previous posts,...

That is your opinion, their opinion may differ, and theirs is the one that matters.

I am adding value to something that they have publicly enabled me to do,...

They almost certainly didn't do that on purpose.  If we demonstrate that they did this by accident and that people will start sending them funds through it whether they like it or not, and that causes them any problems, they may very well say "whoops, we didn't think this through clearly" and take it down.

I fail to see how btc needs to worry about any imagined sensitivities of the British Museum & anyway at least give them a chance to treat btc sympathetically which I believe they would or at the very least objectively i expect,

It's not about whether "btc" just needs to worry - most of us just don't want the exhibit taken down.  They are already treating it more than sympathetically by having it up.

sending their exhibit some funds is really not likely to piss them off too much in my opinion, you guys seem way too defensive/paranoid or cynical to me atm.

It's not that it will piss them off, it's they (again) may determine that they must take steps to stay legally kosher when it comes to accounting (something all organizations must do), and if they decide that it's not worth the effort, they will take it down.  It would be no different than if we knew Gary Johnson had a physical bitcoin displayed on his wall: if anonymous people started donating to it, he would take it down and dispose of it, not because donors "piss him off", but because he feels that he must do so to stay in compliance with campaign finance law.



They encourage & accept cash donations in any fiat or whatever ppl choose to drop in their bins, Krugerrands - Bitcoins whatever, they have no problem with anonymous gifts in any reasonable form... will edit to answer more in 12 hrs ... lol - they won't take the coin off display just because some random ppl have sent it some funds where it's demonstrating to work just as it is meant to, they are interested in representing the reality of the evolution & history of money = this is what it is & does, in real time like never before.
2155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins at the British Museum on: November 06, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
It is not a donation, see my previous posts, I am adding value to something that they have publicly enabled me to do, it's a part of their collection & is exhibited atm, I am helping to demonstrate just how great this is, I seriously think you are misjudging any possible negative reaction from them in ppl doing this & also that if they were to pull the exhibit of the coins because of this that it wouldn't be a big kudos for bitcoin in them failing to cope with this new tech.

Edit: sry - I'm partying right now, I'll edit for more clarity in 12 hrs, but really I fail to see how btc needs to worry about any imagined sensitivities of the British Museum & anyway at least give them a chance to treat btc sympathetically which I believe they would or at the very least objectively I expect, sending their exhibit some funds is really not likely to piss them off too much in my opinion, you guys seem way too defensive/paranoid or cynical to me atm & anyway this particular Pandora is out of her box now so not much point in trying to make it otherwise.
2156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins at the British Museum on: November 06, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
Needless to say, sending funds to the coin has no possible positive outcome and only one possible negative outcome: it encourages them to take it off display.  So please don't do it.

+1 : most organizations won't appreciate getting random bitcoin donations, it is a headache for them to figure out how to handle them properly (and they will get pretty grumpy if they spend a couple hundred dollars worth of staff time to deal with less than that in bitcoin donations).

It would be nice to get it to 10 btc at least for starters & micro donations are cool so as to show them that's possible which none of their other exhibits can do.

The museum might not see it this way.

The museum probably has to comply with accounting laws and report their donations to somebody.

When they put the coin on display, in all likelihood nobody consciously thought "Now that we're displaying a physical bitcoin, we now have a new way to accept donations".  Unless they are going to regularly receive £10,000+ worth of donations through it (unlikely), their cost to properly account for and report on any donations they receive vastly exceeds the value of the donations themselves.

If at any point they discover a semi-significant amount of donations being received through the coin and they feel it threatens the integrity of their accounting, the most logical thing for them to do would be to take the coin down.  The museum isn't going to put up a display showing how the coin is "growing" in value, mostly because it's totally out of the scope of their exhibit, which is "the history of money", not "let's advertise bitcoin".

Needless to say, sending funds to the coin has no possible positive outcome and only one possible negative outcome: it encourages them to take it off display.  So please don't do it.

I can't believe you guys, they have loads of anon fiat cash bins soliciting donations in any form anyone cares to make all around the museum so why would they have any problem in ppl tipping them via their new groovy little bitcoin - they want to know & show, record & demonstrate how things (money/currency in this case) evolve - it is their purpose, they aren't going to get pissed if what they are displaying does exactly what it is designed to do (ffs) & they won't give a toss what it's value is unless it hits like £10k + so chill out & pump this potential news possibilities up & if they were to pull it then that would be important news too - it's irrevocably in their collection & I doubt they will pussy out about it being on display just because someone sends it a few $ (Satoshis), not that anyone much has as yet anyway.
2157  Economy / Securities / Re: Now seeking investors for BitCorp Mining Company [Now pushing 40 GH/s!] on: November 06, 2012, 06:06:25 PM
Hey Yochdog:

Can we get a statement of October operating results and balance statement?  And any progress at all on being able to distribute dividends once again? There needs to be a secondary plan beyond "waiting to hear from Nefario", don't you agree?




I will be posting October results by week end.

In terms of a secondary plan, I am not sure there is any viable path.  If Nefario will not provide records of ownership, there is absolutely no way to verify claims.

If you have any suggestions or insight, please share.  

I have 500 shares which I posted about earlier in this thread & Nefario confirmed, I kept them as there was no buy side interest for anything like that amount, on the 2nd Oct 2012 I received the dividend payment for these of 7.494 btc which I withdrew to my wallet from GLBSE the same day, I can find the TX in the blockchain if needed and also those of my previous withdrawing of the dividends, this I believe is about as close to proof as we can hope to get unless Nefario releases the records which I still expect & hope that he will.
2158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins at the British Museum on: November 06, 2012, 05:45:59 PM
Congrats to Cacascius Smiley
Donating to that coin and pointing it out, will make them understand Bitcoin better.
Its an eye opener

Maybe it's address could be added to the OP here: https://blockchain.info/address/1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW

It would be nice to get it to 10 btc at least for starters & micro donations are cool so as to show them that's possible which none of their other exhibits can do.

Edit to add:

http://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW

2159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins at the British Museum on: November 05, 2012, 10:50:13 AM
Otoh,

Just want to be clear. Have we really persuaded the British Museum to accept Bitcoin payments, without discussion or controversy?

Is it safe to donate? Or is it likely that donations can be appropriated by staff or others?

Lets donate!! We should email them once a year or so saying what the current value of their donation sum is and how they could take it.

Being a Londoner and therefore I might donote to the British museum anyway, I think this is amazing.

Actually, I think this is the most amazing aspect of Casacaus coins, with no computer in sight, you can give one to somebody, and tell them the bitcoin address, and suddenly they are in the business of receiving bitcoin payments.  

The British Museum is a huge organisation, and if it is really now accepting Bitcoin donations.... wow!

Which of the addresses Otoh gives should we use ?


Casascius himself doesn't think at the moment that it's a good idea to send funds to the coins that they have (link) but personally I think it's a very good thing, it's how bitcoins work & they have plenty of silver & gold moneys in that exhibition that go up & down in value with the markets so why should it be a problem, the bitcoin value in fiat is going to change in any case, they also collect anonymous cash from visitors in all sorts of different fiat that ppl choose to drop in to their collection boxes - some quite high denomination notes/bills, I'd thought of dropping a Cas bitcoin in but this is much better. I imagine they will just let the coin increase in value unless some anon eccentric millionaire drops a few 100k coins on it in which case they'll probably cash it out &  replace it with one of their other ones and issue a news release to say thanks very much bitcoins ftw!

So in answer, no we haven't officially persuaded them to accept bitcoin donations, but their exhibit coin address & the others they have they themselves have made public & that allows anyone to send coins to it if they so choose - it's how bitcoin works & as such they should appreciate it's doing exactly what it's meant to & perhaps this will encourage them to actually turn it in to an official funding source. Re security - it's in an exhibition room with really high value PM exhibits & they know how to look after their artifacts so I doubt anyone with access would peel it or switch it for another.

I'd use the one that they have on display showing the FirstBits: 1NyVMo79 for 1NyVMo79Vanhbu92MpPQgCbu9MDV5a4NhW  
2160  Economy / Collectibles / Re: CASASCIUS PHYSICAL BITCOIN - In Stock Now! (pic) on: November 04, 2012, 11:44:35 PM
+1 like a marriage of www.bitlotto.com & Casascius coins - I think that it would work really well but best for a sub set of Casascius coins only not all of them so it's opt in, ie as some businesses/religions/ppl don't like to gamble but wouldn't have any problem with regular crypto coins.
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