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2101  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Biggest Fish - cooperative gambling game! on: December 02, 2012, 03:12:19 PM
I'm often finding my fishes with a negative balance, usually like one has now of -1.601 btc so I just don't feed those, but I see now I have another with a whooping -8.632 balance so there is some glitch going on here, I haven't tried refreshing but will in a few hours when I have to reboot anyway.

Edit: yep agree, best to get the game working as best as possible first before rolling out a bunch of add ons & embellishments that there doesn't seem to be the potential demand for as yet, a simple game where 99% is returned to the players is the way to go imo & then when there's lots of interest add a few new features but anything that dilutes the 99% I can't see working atm, best to get a better history up so that ppl can see just who it was that bit them & take revenge if they choose.

Edit 2: a Micon fish has a tasty 8+ btc on it atm Tongue
but it's siesta time for me now (& digesting Cosby time too)

Edit 3: I do quite like the free letters & will be interested to see what happens when they can be exchanged or traded & the jackpot of unclaimed allie bonuses seems like a good idea to encourage more bitey behaviours.
2102  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Biggest Fish - cooperative gambling game! on: December 02, 2012, 12:16:16 PM
I often double or triple click on a fish that I had only planned to attack only once, especially if I have 2 windows open at the same time on a split screen in order to get the cursor live on the other window & end up doing 2 or 3 bites in quick succession when I'd rather do 1 bite then reload my balance to match the other fish if I lost before making a second attempt, it's my fault & I should have learned by now to be more careful as I've done this repeatedly but if there was either a confirmation pop up for each attack or a delay of 10 seconds or something before one could re-attack the same fish then that would solve this, but if it interfered with smooth game play for others then np as I do think now I will not make this same mistake again but expect that others will get caught out by this though. Even some other place to click in order to be in attack mode again (one's own fish, octopus, a base line spot) would stop inadvertent multi-bites, or a choice of single shot/bite versus repeater/automatic mode would be ideal as a setting for one's fish so one would need to click somewhere (anywhere) other than the fish just attacked before re-attacking it when in single bite mode.
2103  Economy / Speculation / Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on! on: December 02, 2012, 11:25:52 AM
Bitcoin's horoscope for the week ahead, Sunday, 2 December 2012

You can't change everything in an instant. You have to let some processes take their time. You can do what you can to hurry it all along but if you push too hard or hassle for a rapid adjustment, you'll work against your own best interests. Some factors in your personal world are now taking much longer to alter than you might like. Others seem to be full of promise that somehow, never gets fulfilled. Go steady. Stay calm. Gradually, you'll find the best possible target to aim for and the right pace to go at.
2104  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Biggest Fish - cooperative gambling game! on: December 01, 2012, 12:33:59 PM
I corrected the numbers in my previous post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127159.msg1358978#msg1358978
Dooglus is correct in that a Martingale strategy doesn't work at all well on TBF game.
2105  Economy / Speculation / Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on! on: December 01, 2012, 11:07:46 AM
Bitcoin's December Monthly Forecast

Let's think forward to next December. Where do you hope to be by then? I don't mean physically. The issue is not one of location; it is one of status, condition, confidence level and ability to feel comfortable with where your life is going. Right now, you're more comfortable than you were a few months ago but you'd really like more reassurance. That's not too much to hope for. It's a reasonable expectation! Events between now and the start of 2013 will help you really feel as if the future is something you're going to like!

2106  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Happy halving day on: November 28, 2012, 03:43:33 PM
Loved the firework & the great timing, it's my birthday Yey! Champagne & bubbles all round Smiley
2107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Happy halving day on: November 28, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
Just for interest there is a full lunar eclipse at exactly 33 minutes past this current hour (in half an hour +/-) & the full moon is at 46 minutes past, exciting timing!
Oooh. That is pretty awesome timing but I'm sure it only holds true in one place. Can someone find out where that happens at the moment the blocks halve? I hope it's not off the coast of Africa in the Null Triangle (0.0.0.0)....

No, it's just a penumbral eclipse http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEplot/LEplot2001/LE2012Nov28N.pdf

Yep, sry, a penumbral I got confused with the full moon, see here for viability, Bermuda is on:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75955.msg1325753#msg1325753

2108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Happy halving day on: November 28, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
Just for interest there is a full deep penumbral lunar eclipse at exactly 33 minutes past this current hour (in half an hour +/-) & the full moon is exact at 46 minutes past, exciting timing!  Tongue
2109  Economy / Securities / Re: Now seeking investors for BitCorp Mining Company [Now pushing 40 GH/s!] on: November 27, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Hey Yochdog:

Can we get a statement of October operating results and balance statement?  And any progress at all on being able to distribute dividends once again? There needs to be a secondary plan beyond "waiting to hear from Nefario", don't you agree?




I will be posting October results by week end.

In terms of a secondary plan, I am not sure there is any viable path.  If Nefario will not provide records of ownership, there is absolutely no way to verify claims.

If you have any suggestions or insight, please share. 

Did these get posted, sorry if I missed it somewhere, anyway also November results due this weekend, it would be good to know what was owed per share for each month that hasn't been paid out as yet & hopefully it can all soon get resolved if you now have the lists or are about to get them.
2110  Economy / Securities / Re: Now seeking investors for BitCorp Mining Company [Now pushing 40 GH/s!] on: November 27, 2012, 12:45:51 PM
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More lists coming out tomorrow
by James McCarthy
I'll be sending out updated lists by tomorrow afternoon.

There will also be some new lists sent out for some issuers.

Got a lot of email over the weekend, if I've not replied please bear with me, I'm a bit snowed under.

http://blog.glbse.com/more-lists-coming-out-tomorrow

Any news or lists as yet?
2111  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Biggest Fish - cooperative gambling game! on: November 26, 2012, 08:17:52 PM
Edit: btw it is recommended to always click on an Otoh fish for your allie as they will bring you much luckks & also will leave you in peace rather than possibly attempt to martingale you Wink

Hehe.  I was watching your battle with MPEx earlier.  MPEx got up to 50+ BTC, and you re-deposited up to 28 BTC or something, but then someone suggested you think again about risking so much, and it seemed you took his advice.

Now I see MPEx is back down to 20 BTC.  I can't tell whether he withdrew, stashed a lot in the chest, or was bitten successfully.

As for martingaling, I'm not sure it works in this game.

Long boring exploration of how the biting works:

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Suppose there's a 32 BTC fish and I want to use martingale betting to eat it.

I load up 32 BTC too (if I'm not allowed to bite an equal, load up with 31.999 instead, but assume I can bite an equal).

If I lose, I'm 16 BTC down, and the 32 fish now has 48 BTC (let's ignore the 10% that doesn't go to the winner for simplicity's sake).

So I deposit another 32, to match the 48 fish and lose again.  I lose 24 BTC

Now I have 24, the big fish has 72, I need to deposit another 48 to match him, and I've lost 16+24 = 40 BTC in total

Now if I bite him and win, I don't get back the 40 BTC I'm down - I only get 36, so I don't even break even.

If I lose this 3rd attack as well, I lose a further 36, making my total losses 40+36 = 76, and after redepositing, both fishes are now 108 BTC.

If I win the 4th attack, I win 54 BTC but I'm already 76 down.  So it looks like the longer I go without winning, the further and further I fall behind, with no chance of getting my losses back.

Does that look about right?

I think MPEx got up to 30.883, I deposited up to 28 odd but heeded the advice not to bite again, then I added the exact amount to equal MPEx's 30.883 so that we were 50/50 chance of win lose again, then I sacrificed many virgins & bit to win 13.898 on my attack fish plus 1.389 on my own other referral fish, so 99% of half the total MPEx weight was 15.287 btc the other 1% of it going to the house 0.1544 btc

Yep you can exactly equal someone's else's weight to attack/defend for 50/50 chance, re martingaling one would use another fish of one's own as allie to referral the 9% of any wins to, so effectively you get 99% overall of any wins (& the house gets 1%) & on losses you lose the normal 50% - whether your opponent is collecting 90% of that or 99% is up to them, it will be on a different fish anyways.

In your example: Suppose there's a 32 BTC fish and I want to use martingale betting to eat it.

I load up 32 BTC too (if I'm not allowed to bite an equal, load up with 31.999 instead, but assume I can bite an equal).
Yep you can np.

If I lose, I'm 16 BTC down, and the 32 fish now has 48 BTC (let's ignore the 10% that doesn't go to the winner for simplicity's sake).
Just taking a look at it with the actual figures to see, so opponent fish now has 46.4 BTC

So I deposit another 32, to match the 48 fish and lose again.  I lose 24 BTC
So I deposit 30.4 to match the 46.4 fish and lose again. I lose 23.2 BTC

Now I have 24, the big fish has 72, I need to deposit another 48 to match him, and I've lost 16+24 = 40 BTC in total
I have 23.2, the big fish has 67.28, I need to deposit 44.08 to match him, and I've lost 16+23.2 = 39.2 BTC in total

Now if I bite him and win, I don't get back the 40 BTC I'm down - I only get 36, so I don't even break even.
Now if I bite him and win, I don't get back the 39.2 BTC I'm down - I only get 33.3036, so I don't even break even. Correct

If I lose this 3rd attack as well, I lose a further 36, making my total losses 40+36 = 76, and after redepositing, both fishes are now 108 BTC.
If I lose this 3rd attack as well, I lose a further 33.64, making my total losses 39.2+33.64 = 72.84, and after redepositing, both fishes are now 97.556 BTC.

If I win the 4th attack, I win 54 BTC but I'm already 76 down.  So it looks like the longer I go without winning, the further and further I fall behind, with no chance of getting my losses back.
If I win the 4th attack, I win 48.29022 BTC but I'm already 72.84 down.  So it looks like the longer I go without winning, the further and further I fall behind, with no chance of getting my losses back. Yep so it seems. One would need 2 consecutive wins to come out ahead.

I guess the cause of this is the house's 1% cumulative fee & the fact that 10% of the opponents wins is not left on the same fish (9% to an allie & 1% to the house).

Edit: I corrected my numbers.

2112  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Give away/request free bitcoins here! on: November 25, 2012, 10:12:49 PM
http://78.47.168.188  Tongue
2113  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: November 25, 2012, 10:02:02 PM
I sent you & your lawyer an email reply, Please see how other bond issuers are dealing with this without the hassle & drama:

I know everyone has been itching for more information.  A lot of things have been going on behind the curtains, and I have been hesitant to share information that was not fact.  Now that I have some factual information (and I'm back from the holiday) I can share with you where we're at.

  • Nefario sent me a partial list of bondholders.  I have been waiting for an updated list, but so far I have not received it.  The initial list was about 69,000 of the 100,000 bonds sold across 115 accounts.  I have since identified about another 26k of bonds that was held by a large shareholder.  Thus the list is close to 95k of the 100k bonds.  That's good enough for me to start to move forward.
  • I will contact each of you in the coming week to confirm the information I have received and your payout address.  If you do not receive an email from my by Friday, then you were not in the bondholder list I received (also be sure to check your spam folder).
  • Nefario has double paid some accounts and did not receive claims for all accounts, thus the discrepancy.  To ensure that all claims are valid, please make sure your claim has been filed.  If you received a payout for more than you were owed, you'll also have to work that out with Nefario.  I will rely exclusively on Nefario's list.
  • I have started the process to relist BITBOND on cryptostocks.  I hope to have that done in the next week or so.
  • I have not yet finalized a plan for the payouts since GLBSE closed.  I am exploring several options including a buyback and a free upgrade with higher payouts.  Unfortunately, because of the block reward change and my GPU mining costs, regular payouts will not be able to be resumed until I receive my ASIC.

I will post more information as I know it.  Thank you for your patience.

Edit: I do appreciate your efforts to get Nefario to release the info, especially if it was due to your lawyering up that tipped the balance.
2114  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Biggest Fish - cooperative gambling game! on: November 25, 2012, 09:29:14 PM
The instructions, such as they are, say the odds of winning are proportional to the size of the fish.  So the tiny .1 fish attacking the 50 BTC fish has a very small chance of winning.  However, when the tiny fish wins, he wins 25 BTC, and when he loses, he loses .05.

1% goes to the house and it looks like 10% to someone else's fish if you click on that, so I'd click on the 0 fish to start.

Where did you find the instructions?

I'm wondering what happens to the 10% if I click the 0 fish to start.  I'm guessing it just goes to the house, and I don't end up keeping any more of my winnings than if I clicked a 'real' fish to start.

Say you win, then 50% of the other fish gets shared out, say it's a 20 btc fish, of the 50% ie 10 btc then 90% of the won weight goes to you ie 9 btc, 9% goes to your allie fish (yellow one) ie 0.9 btc & 1% goes to the house ie 0.1 btc, if you choose the 0 fish to start as your allie then the house gets that or now it goes to octopus for a jackpot bonus pool, but if you run a few fish then obviously it's advantageous to click on one of your others for an allie & use those further up the chain to do the biting.

Instructions are shown in game at the bottom of the screen, after you have joined the game "Click here to read how to play"

Edit: btw it is recommended to always click on an Otoh fish for your allie as they will bring you much luckks & also will leave you in peace rather than possibly attempt to martingale you Wink
2115  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Biggest Fish - cooperative gambling game! on: November 24, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
Yep, history would be really cool, if possible can it be backdated somewhat too as I went to sleep about 10 hours ago & after playing & partying forgot what balance I left on my 2 fish, I thought I withdrew them down to 0.1 each but that seems unlikely as amazingly they were both alive this morning with balances of 8.143 btc & 2.155 btc, they actually made more money for me when I was asleep than I made for myself yesterday when awake - beginners luck maybe, perhaps someone kept attacking but lost many bites in a row & kept putting in 50% more each time or something or maybe I left higher balances up on them like 6 btc & 1 btc - would be great to see this last 12 hours history or if anyone could let me know, many thanks, cool game!

Edit: A few fishes had allied me so that may have helped, I'm sure it did so many thanks to those - especially if they were doing lots of bitings.
Edit 2: Just found a note which says 1.5 btc & 0.5 btc left, so could well be that those were the balances that I had left them on last night.
2116  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: November 23, 2012, 05:53:26 PM
To get your asset infos released to issuers in the email to Nefario please attach a picture of yourself, naked, wearing (...).
Sorry I feel funny today.

EuroTrash, you will quickly earn the respect to Nefario when you see what is needed at Gigamining.


I would actually find this much easier & preferable than the BS that giga is coming up with atm.
2117  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: November 23, 2012, 04:01:15 PM
I was expecting something like this but not so bad, you know darn well that I am the holder of 1,530 GM units, you have my associated bitcoin address, email address & forum ID but rather than just pay what you owe me you are going to make it as difficult, costly & inconvenient as possible for me & everyone else who has helped you build your mining operation plus also rule out any chance of the higher rates you promised could be paid when I tripled the coins I put in this, I'd ask you to think again because this is just outright unnecessary BS.
2118  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Biggest Fish - cooperative gambling game! on: November 23, 2012, 02:24:46 PM
oops I sent a few Satoshis to yesterday's fish game earlier before refreshing the browser & checking here
2119  Economy / Speculation / Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on! on: November 23, 2012, 12:20:28 PM
Do I donate to link in your sig? It's inspiring words regardless for those who know a better path.

Many thanks for the kind offer, yep any Satoshis to my sig address are always welcome, but actually atm I am mostly selecting or DJ-ing/sampling (sometimes re-mixing) what I think are relevant/inspiring pieces from others, today's quote came from Jonathan Cainer's forecast for Capricorn, I find him one of the more synchronistic & so he really deserves any donation today more than I do - you could try his 5 star service if you liked which is free if you cancel before 2 weeks I believe, plenty of interesting outlooks for the coming year there.
2120  Economy / Speculation / Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on! on: November 23, 2012, 10:59:27 AM
Bitcoin's horoscopes for Friday November 23, 2012

What can you do? Try to find out! What do you know? More than you think. Where can you get? Further than you might imagine. Whose help can you summon? Ask nicely and you will be pleasantly surprised. There is a reason why you are doing what you are doing. By this, I don't mean the reason that you are already aware of. There is a deeper reason. The cosmos is operating with a hidden agenda. It has something additional up its sleeve. When you discover it, you will be both amazed and amused.
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