IOTA - Unmoderated thread

[CIYAM]

Are you evading to explain that issue with your wife?

I said do your research (it isn't up to me to educate you on what happened when you are the one who brought it up).

Personally I would have thought you were better than that (but it seems your new project is leading to new lows).

I didn't admit that.

Unlike your "leader" I won't post any IMs between us - but let's just say that we agree to disagree on this point then.

[Come-from-Beyond]

I said do your research (it isn't up to me to educate you on what happened when you are the one who brought it up).

You do understand that this behavior looks as an attempt to evade, don't you? At least to all the others.

[CIYAM]

You do understand that this behavior looks as an attempt to evade, don't you? At least to all the others.

Not really - as you can simply click on the Trust link to find out all you want to know (and others might be a bit smarter than you and already worked out that).

I guess your "leader" would know this also - perhaps you need to listen to him more to learn new things.

It's really kind of telling that both you and your "leader" resort to personal attacks upon myself (and others) rather than actually defending your project.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Not really - as you can simply click on the Trust link to find out all you want to know (and others might be a bit smarter than you and already worked out that).

Got it, never paid attention to this BTT feature, thx for pointing to it. I apologize for "stolen bitcoins" accusation, "Liar" tag is still there though.

[CIYAM]

Got it, never paid attention to this BTT feature, thx for pointing to it. I apologize for "stolen bitcoins" accusation, "Liar" tag is still there though.

Fine - but please drop the "scammer" tag while you're at it.

[Come-from-Beyond]

...rather than actually defending your project.

Why does it need to be defended? Did you really believe that claims of people like altcoinUK, cryptohunter and you are worth much? Maybe create a poll to know the harsh truth?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Fine - but please drop the "scammer" tag while you're at it.

Em... Have I said you were a scammer?

[CIYAM]

Why does it need to be defended? Did you really believe that claims of people like altcoinUK, cryptohunter and you are worth much? Maybe create a poll to know the harsh truth?

It needs to be defended because of the money and claims involved.

Create a poll?

Are you kidding?

(but sure that would let the sock-puppets decide wouldn't it)

[CIYAM]

Em... Have I said you were a scammer?

Your "leader" has and he has indicated that it was when I was involved with Nxt (which you would therefore have known if such a thing was true).

[Come-from-Beyond]

Create a poll?

Are you kidding?

Haha, yes.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Your "leader" has and he has indicated that it was when I was involved with Nxt (which you would therefore have known if such a thing was true).

All that I can recall is that Nxt community was pissed off after you implemented AT on Qora. You were paid but returned the money, it's not worth to be called a scam IMO, especially taking into account that JLP didn't help you with the integration into the core. I don't know about other cases. Maybe ask David for the details?

[CIYAM]

The reason that AT had to leave the Nxt project was because you and James "kicked it out" (by refusing to have it implemented - the Jean-Luc dev might also have had something to do with that but from what I recall he wasn't really calling the shots at that stage).

So if there is anyone to blame about why AT ended up on Qora first it is yourself and the other Nxt devs that should be first in line.

As you correctly pointed out I didn't make any funds at all from the work that was done so to try and call that a scam is rather a reach.

I tried asking David in this topic (several times) but he doesn't respond (as he knows I was never involved in any scam but just wants to try and call me a scammer anyway).

[Come-from-Beyond]

The reason that AT had to leave the Nxt project was because you and James "kicked it out" (by refusing to have it implemented).

So if there is anyone to blame about why AT ended up on Qora first it is yourself and him that should be first in line.

As you correctly pointed out I didn't make any funds at all from the work that was done so to try and call that a scam is rather a reach.

I wasn't in charge of Nxt core at that time. James has never been at all.

[CIYAM]

I wasn't in charge of Nxt core at that time. James has never been at all.

But it was you and he that argued against implementing AT in the Nxt Forum and that is why the project had to move (it ended up with no support in Nxt).

To say you weren't in charge when your posts were being so closely followed by the community is not really very genuine (but I know you like hiding behind sock-puppet "communities").

[iotatoken]

Stop lying CIYAM, you were kicked out because you tried to have Nxt 'killed' (your own terminology). Of course no one wanted you.

[CIYAM]

Stop lying CIYAM, you were kicked out because you tried to have Nxt 'killed' (your own terminology). Of course no one wanted you.

Again - no scamming evidence you can come up with.

Are you going to finally stop calling me a scammer?

[Come-from-Beyond]

But it was you and he that argued against implementing AT in the Nxt Forum and that is why the project had to move (it ended up with no support in Nxt).

To say you weren't in charge when your posts were being so closely followed by the community is not really very genuine.

Hm, I can't recall this. AT was my idea implemented by you, why would I want it NOT to be added into Nxt core? Dig for the links proving your claim, please, I'll come back later after the next coding cycle.

[altcoinUK]

It's really kind of telling that both you and your "leader" resort to personal attacks upon myself (and others) rather than actually defending your project.

They are unable to defend the undefendable. Therefore, they hope to switch the attention from their scam by posting personal attacks.

The Belarusian's very average software development skills, his mistakes that would be unacceptable even from a junior developer and that indicates his lack of experience in commercial software development has been pointed out by me and you as well. It is documented in this thread. They can't defend that broken record.

The complete failure of their IOTA scam terms of delivering any result, no GUI after 6 months, not even one tiny pilot project with any IoT businesses is indefensible as well.

The scammers are in trouble, therefore they troll and attack any criticism.

[CIYAM]

AT was my idea implemented by you, why would I want it NOT to be added into Nxt core?

AT was never your idea at all sorry (it was 100% my idea after I was introduced to Vitalik's white paper on Ethereum before nearly anyone else had even heard of that).

Funny how you keep trying to take credit for my tech (I've noticed you trying to claim that you helped invent AT in other topics as well).

[altcoinUK]

Where do people get these ideas? Where and when have we ever said that we'd somehow exclude the original IOTA network? Never. People should really stop lying and act like adults who actually read terms of sales before they purchase something.

people are scared and concerned given this environment and these circumstances. this may be unfounded and irrational but it is not as outlandish as your rethorical questions implies.

do you feel you are being coerced or bullied if your customers want their concerns calmed?

do you consider it an outrageous abuse if your customers are insecure and scared and ask you to give them piece of mind that this will not happen?

do you blame your customers for being insecure?

Yes, he does all those.

Please note, the only job David boy had in his life is this one, to scam money out from the noobs, naives and idiots in this gambling microcosmos.  He has no experience whatsoever in business or technology. He has never made a dollar (not even one) by creating a product in real world, for real people, real businesses and real world use cases (except when he was flipping burger in the McDonlad's at age 18). Therefore, he doesn't understand the concept of customer, business or investor.
He is good enough to create a blatant scam P&D, but don't expect anything more from a scammer like David is.