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October 27, 2013, 07:05:26 PM
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Ill bet you find the credentials are entered wrong, or something like that
was it running before?, or u just got it?

The credentials are entered fine.  I'm not even trying to enter more than 1 pool.
I just received my unit.  Put my info in to the .95 settings, it started hashing ~80-90 Ghash/sec.  Upgraded firmware to 0.97, started hashing ~10 Ghash/sec.

I'm sure it isn't just bad credentials.  Am I supposed to do anything after applying the new firmware?  There doesn't even seem to be much that could be done in the web GUI.  Do I need to SSH to the thing to make 0.97 work?

Thank you,

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I had similar experience with all of the restarts, and was cured by power-cycling the machine.  I highly recommend 0.97 as well... it will work.

Sometimes when hitting the warm reboot button for an upgrade, it seems to start a second instance of cgminer, and cause problems, which a power-cycle cured, this happened almost every time I reflashed.

any time I change firmware, I have to power cycle the sats.(instead of reboot)
and by power cycle, I mean physically using the power supply to turn the miner off for 20 seconds.

You may also need to clear your browser casche, and close the browser, reopen...

Well, I really would like to run 0.97 but it isn't working on my Mercury.  I tried the enablecores.bin and I swear I did power cycle it by turning off the PSU.  Maybe I'll try again later, trying to see if 0.96 can work better than 0.95 now.  

Looks like 0.96 is a dud to me as well, trying 0.96.1 now.

Thanks for the suggestions,

_theJestre

EDIT: In 0.96.1 I saw 105 Ghash/sec for a brief minute after a power cycle, then it dropped steadily until ~10 Ghash/sec again.  Is that indicative of some kind of known problem?
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October 27, 2013, 07:08:51 PM
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Just gonna put this out there, any jupiter or saturn owners want to sell me one of their hashing boards? i have a mercury and want to turn it into a saturn. some quick cash for you! give me a shout!
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Just gonna put this out there, any jupiter or saturn owners want to sell me one of their hashing boards? i have a mercury and want to turn it into a saturn. some quick cash for you! give me a shout!
HAaaaaa....Yeah!...I'm lookin' at my sats, wanting boards now toooooooo! Smiley


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October 27, 2013, 07:14:56 PM
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Mine are rock solid now, all night, no flux  Smiley

No flux means all fans off case closed?

I never said I removed the heatsink fans. I would not do that.

The heatsink fans are just as they came stock. Just no case fans, or any others.
open cases, stacked.

Thanks! I also think no fans is too risky but replacing the stock sink fans in boards with high HW in cold environments is not a bad idea. Especially if reported temps don't go much above 60 even if that is not exactly the asic temp

Do tell us how your heat sink fanless system is going in a few days FiatKiller!
 

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October 27, 2013, 07:16:13 PM
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Just gonna put this out there, any jupiter or saturn owners want to sell me one of their hashing boards? i have a mercury and want to turn it into a saturn. some quick cash for you! give me a shout!
HAaaaaa....Yeah!...I'm lookin' at my sats, wanting boards now toooooooo! Smiley

hahah, well i should have upgraded months ago but didn't have the cash at the time. and with the difficulty rise, i thought i would see if i could pick up another board. someone here has to want the cash!
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October 27, 2013, 07:39:43 PM
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Which is these formula?


These formulae were posted by Kano in a KNC thread, they merely allow you to compute your hashrate properly:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.msg3309728#msg3309728

ElGabo has:

11213824*2^32/(25*3600+2.5*60)
   5.3425410e+11
534 GH/s in accepted shares.

420356*2^32/(25*3600+2.5*60)
   2.0026792e+10
20 GH/s in hardware errors for less than 5% HW

72191.*2^32/(25.*3600.+2.5*60)
   3.4393565e+09
3.4 GH/s in rejected shares (538 GH/s full hashrate).


Which are outstanding values compared with what many people here, including me, have. Unfortunately it's hard to figure out what factors affect the real hashrates as most people do not post the source of their numbers and some others, like edgar, will prefer to cover the thread in flame instead of making some effort to search the threads, understand and cooperate.

My other question was if temperatures affect the output in your machine ElGabo, and if that affects HW (positively or negatively) but your HW is so low that your machine doesn't seem good to test this. Unless when the temperature is high (seeing that your screenshot shows very low temperatures) your hardware error rate goes much higher  (which would be the opposite of what people including Phoenix and DigginDeep just above seem to be seeing). Then we could see if that VRM output correlates. Is that the case?


tunctioncloud: 0.97 is horrible for my machine and many others.




What I've seen about temps: Now it runs in about 22-23C at room, chips between 29,5-41,4C. I have 551-552Ghs, what you have seen on the picture. The HW rate is 3,4%.

I've tried to let it run a bit hotter, I got worse Ghs and worse HW. If I could make 17C room temp and was able to run the whole thing colder, I got 558GHs and less HW.

But then and interesting thing happened, when I've tried to cool it down better, 16C room temp and the chips between 20-28C after a while,when I was monitoring cgminer I saw x core disabled, x core disabled... and a whole chip died. LOL but for a while I got 663Ghs+....

So too moch overcool is not fine, but in my opinion too much heat also.

Unfortunetly I didn't care about VRM outputs until yesterday so I can't tell you exact numbers but now I take care and if I found something interesting I'll write it asap.

The only thing what I've seen about vrm-s is that mine outputs 0,718-0,763V (min-max). I've seen on other guys pictures 0,8 and above but I don't know they are on which firmware.

And yep, I'm runing on 0.96.

0.97 f... up for me. Better WU but more than 10% HW. And we know HW counts in WU here.... My avarage dropped down on the pool to 410....

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October 27, 2013, 07:42:21 PM
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Don't stuck with Bitcoin.
Underperformed Saturn 180 GH/s
Bitcoin Mining BTCGuild 0,23 BTC (Daily)
PPcoin Solo mining Found 3 Blocks 3 X 207 PPC = 621 PPC X 0.0020200 (Cryptsy Price) = 1.25442 BTC (Daily)
Terracoin Solo Mining 0,3342 BTC (Daily)
 And without difficulty worries!!!

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October 27, 2013, 07:47:54 PM
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Just gonna put this out there, any jupiter or saturn owners want to sell me one of their hashing boards? i have a mercury and want to turn it into a saturn. some quick cash for you! give me a shout!
HAaaaaa....Yeah!...I'm lookin' at my sats, wanting boards now toooooooo! Smiley

just an FYI, I did try connecting the chip board to a different connector on the controller board.....didn't like it...had to back. Now it could have been to the firmware at the time but it could have been the controller board....but I would suggest checking the controller board that it works before spending only to find it doesn't work.
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October 27, 2013, 07:51:56 PM
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How do we set up the KNCs to mine alt-coins? Care to elaborate?

Don't stuck with Bitcoin.
Underperformed Saturn 180 GH/s
Bitcoin Mining BTCGuild 0,23 BTC (Daily)
PPcoin Solo mining Found 3 Blocks 3 X 207 PPC = 621 PPC X 0.0020200 (Cryptsy Price) = 1.25442 BTC (Daily)
Terracoin Solo Mining 0,3342 BTC (Daily)
 And without difficulty worries!!!


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October 27, 2013, 07:52:16 PM
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So final
The Jupiter work better when is harm or when is it cold?HuhHuh??

Mine works better cold...

You have to decide what to try...

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October 27, 2013, 08:13:48 PM
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Don't stuck with Bitcoin.
Underperformed Saturn 180 GH/s
Bitcoin Mining BTCGuild 0,23 BTC (Daily)
PPcoin Solo mining Found 3 Blocks 3 X 207 PPC = 621 PPC X 0.0020200 (Cryptsy Price) = 1.25442 BTC (Daily)
Terracoin Solo Mining 0,3342 BTC (Daily)
 And without difficulty worries!!!


Slush gets me slightly over .3 a day with 140GH

As for temp, I've got 1.3% HW errors and it runs best as it is at 36 with standard cooling. Maybe because of the low errors eh?
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October 27, 2013, 08:18:34 PM
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Don't stuck with Bitcoin.
Underperformed Saturn 180 GH/s
Bitcoin Mining BTCGuild 0,23 BTC (Daily)
PPcoin Solo mining Found 3 Blocks 3 X 207 PPC = 621 PPC X 0.0020200 (Cryptsy Price) = 1.25442 BTC (Daily)
Terracoin Solo Mining 0,3342 BTC (Daily)
 And without difficulty worries!!!


Can you share how to point your KnC at the penis poop coins?  (why the hell are they called ppcoin's?)
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October 27, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
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How do we set up the KNCs to mine alt-coins? Care to elaborate?

Don't stuck with Bitcoin.
Underperformed Saturn 180 GH/s
Bitcoin Mining BTCGuild 0,23 BTC (Daily)
PPcoin Solo mining Found 3 Blocks 3 X 207 PPC = 621 PPC X 0.0020200 (Cryptsy Price) = 1.25442 BTC (Daily)
Terracoin Solo Mining 0,3342 BTC (Daily)
 And without difficulty worries!!!


Download PPcoin Client
Install PPcoin client to a windows PC
Run once ppcoin client and quit
If your PC is Windows 7 goto Users/your user name/AppData/Roaming/PPcoin and create ppcoin.conf as follows

rpcuser=anyname
rpcpassword=anypassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcallowip=your pc ip
rpcport=9902
daemon=1
server=1
listen=1
gen=0

Then restart your ppcoin client and let download the whole block chain.
After that goto your miner and point to
your pc ip:9902
anyname (as above in ppcoin.conf)
anypassword
Restart cgminer, ensure via ssh that is working and hashing and wait
Average block finding time is 4-8 hours for a Saturn (each block equals to 0,41 BTC)

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October 27, 2013, 08:22:33 PM
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Don't stuck with Bitcoin.
Underperformed Saturn 180 GH/s
Bitcoin Mining BTCGuild 0,23 BTC (Daily)
PPcoin Solo mining Found 3 Blocks 3 X 207 PPC = 621 PPC X 0.0020200 (Cryptsy Price) = 1.25442 BTC (Daily)
Terracoin Solo Mining 0,3342 BTC (Daily)
 And without difficulty worries!!!


Can you share how to point your KnC at the penis poop coins?  (why the hell are they called ppcoin's?)

Peer to Peer Coin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPCoin

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October 27, 2013, 08:29:23 PM
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Can you share how to point your KnC at the penis poop coins?  (why the hell are they called ppcoin's?)

Two words I've never seen/heard together in that order. Thanks for, even at my advancing age, making true the addage "You learn something new every day"

BTCitcointalk 1%ers manipulate the currency and deceive its user community.
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October 27, 2013, 08:32:40 PM
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ElGabo....

By warmer temps, we mean around 60-65, not going from 20 to 30.
Did you go that high?
All mine love 60-70, way better than 35-45. the hw error rate dropped drastically.
We have confirmation they are rated to go all the way to 105, so thats well within norms...
as well as the temp of 28nm asics known to run better as in the article posted earlier...
I'm sure you will see the difference if you tried 60 rather than 30 or 40.
just sayin'.


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October 27, 2013, 08:42:55 PM
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(each block equals to 0,41 BTC)


How is that possible for them to have such a high valuation?  People have to be dumping money into them?

I guess I know nothing of the penis poop economy.
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October 27, 2013, 08:45:14 PM
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Cool. Will give it a try.

Thanks!

How do we set up the KNCs to mine alt-coins? Care to elaborate?

Don't stuck with Bitcoin.
Underperformed Saturn 180 GH/s
Bitcoin Mining BTCGuild 0,23 BTC (Daily)
PPcoin Solo mining Found 3 Blocks 3 X 207 PPC = 621 PPC X 0.0020200 (Cryptsy Price) = 1.25442 BTC (Daily)
Terracoin Solo Mining 0,3342 BTC (Daily)
 And without difficulty worries!!!


Download PPcoin Client
Install PPcoin client to a windows PC
Run once ppcoin client and quit
If your PC is Windows 7 goto Users/your user name/AppData/Roaming/PPcoin and create ppcoin.conf as follows

rpcuser=anyname
rpcpassword=anypassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcallowip=your pc ip
rpcport=9902
daemon=1
server=1
listen=1
gen=0

Then restart your ppcoin client and let download the whole block chain.
After that goto your miner and point to
your pc ip:9902
anyname (as above in ppcoin.conf)
anypassword
Restart cgminer, ensure via ssh that is working and hashing and wait
Average block finding time is 4-8 hours for a Saturn (each block equals to 0,41 BTC)


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October 27, 2013, 08:46:09 PM
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rpcuser=anyname
rpcpassword=anypassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcallowip=your pc ip
rpcport=9902
daemon=1
server=1
listen=1
gen=0

So if I had multiple machines, would I change listen to that quantity?
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October 27, 2013, 08:51:35 PM
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(each block equals to 0,41 BTC)


How is that possible for them to have such a high valuation?  People have to be dumping money into them?

I guess I know nothing of the penis poop economy.

Well, a block nets you 200+ coins...so that helps.  But I question the overall math being used here.  According to http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency PPCoin is only *slightly* more profitable than bitcoin mining with apples-to-apples hashing power.  So either someone's calcs are off or there was a heck of a lucky streak in solo mining which resulted in skewed perceptions of overall profitability.  Also, alt-coins tend to fork fairly often due to technical issues and if one doesn't keep one's client current, hashing could be directed towards a largely abandoned chain that results in a jackpot of unspendable coins.
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