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July 28, 2013, 03:17:19 AM
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Please forgive me if this question has been answered previously:

Will KnCMiners be reconfigurable to mine in a pool of our choosing? I read somewhere (kncminer.com?) that we would be asked for configuration information before shipping so that the unit would arrive ready to mine - is that configuration modifiable?

What is the interface for the miner? is it  a web interface? Is the shell accessible to the end user?

There is some speculation on reddit that the KnCminers will only be capable of solo mining. I find that unlikely, but it would be great to get some accurate information.

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/1j6xke

The device would be useless if it were locked to a pool, as pools come and go. Therefore it must be modifiable.
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July 28, 2013, 03:27:44 AM
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Anyone have any idea if Knc has reached tapeout yet? With 5 weeks till September time is ticking...
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July 28, 2013, 03:39:23 AM
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Unfortunately, as far as I know we are still waiting to find out the tape-out date.   Huh
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July 28, 2013, 03:47:19 AM
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Unfortunately, as far as I know we are still waiting to find out the tape-out date.   Huh

I wonder why no News on tape out, mask and wafer? producing the chips easily takes more than a month
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July 28, 2013, 03:48:06 AM
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Unfortunately, as far as I know we are still waiting to find out the tape-out date.   Huh
That's their business, I would be surprised if the bothered to tell you.

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July 28, 2013, 03:59:33 AM
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KnC will have their own pool, with a 2% fee,
KnCMiner Pool Fee is now 1.5%
https://www.kncminer.com/categories/hosting
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July 28, 2013, 04:08:37 AM
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Unfortunately, as far as I know we are still waiting to find out the tape-out date.   Huh
That's their business, I would be surprised if the bothered to tell you.



That's easy for you to say:


I would love to order a KNCminer, but I am waiting until I see working proof from end users who have received their units, just like I did with BFL.  Until actual real world test results come in, you can't plan your rig effectively.
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July 28, 2013, 04:58:04 AM
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Unfortunately, as far as I know we are still waiting to find out the tape-out date.   Huh
That's their business, I would be surprised if the bothered to tell you.



I would think paying customers would get some updates.. So far all I heard about was a hosting plan and you can spend more money to upgrade ..

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July 28, 2013, 05:08:19 AM
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Unfortunately, as far as I know we are still waiting to find out the tape-out date.   Huh
That's their business, I would be surprised if the bothered to tell you.



I would think paying customers would get some updates.. So far all I heard about was a hosting plan and you can spend more money to upgrade ..


Since when do Intel or nVidia tell their customers tape out dates?

Where is the precedent?

Updates are nice but kind of pointless until their estimated ship date has elapsed.
Additional technical info would be more useful.

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July 28, 2013, 05:11:56 AM
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I was under the impression that since they aren't doing a 'pure asic' but just FPGA>ASIC (and already proved their FPGA) there is a chance they are just funneling this through the fab and there is no 'tape-out' party that they care about

I could be completely wrong but that is the impression that I get


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July 28, 2013, 05:14:49 AM
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Since when do Intel or nVidia tell their cutomers tape out dates?

Where is the precedent?

Show me where I can pre-order the new nVidia 980 GPU or the new Intel Broadwell CPU. As soon as I have those pre-orders fully paid for I'll let you know what tape-out dates they provide.

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July 28, 2013, 05:44:07 AM
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Intel and nvidia have shipped many products and in this industry with all the scams and such I thinks it's important for people to be informed of such info .. Wouldn't you want to know what's up with your 14k you spent with such nonsense going on in thus industry esp with the amount of scammers out?
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Unfortunately, as far as I know we are still waiting to find out the tape-out date.   Huh
That's their business, I would be surprised if the bothered to tell you.



I would think paying customers would get some updates.. So far all I heard about was a hosting plan and you can spend more money to upgrade ..


Since when do Intel or nVidia tell their customers tape out dates?

Where is the precedent?

Updates are nice but kind of pointless until their estimated ship date has elapsed.
Additional technical info would be more useful.



Intel and nVidia don't spend months collecting customer's pre-order cash to fund chip production.

Avalon's tape-out date announcement:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120184.msg1294431#msg1294431

BFL's announcement:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status.html#post10249

100TH (bitfury chip) announcement:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140366.0

Labcoin announcement:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241033.msg2710542#msg2710542

ASICminer (friedcat's) announcement:
https://109.201.133.65/index.php?topic=99497.msg1273397#msg1273397

 



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July 28, 2013, 06:53:30 AM
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Might be an obvious question, but without hosting by KNC could it still be possible to mine in their pool?
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July 28, 2013, 06:55:45 AM
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I was under the impression that since they aren't doing a 'pure asic' but just FPGA>ASIC (and already proved their FPGA) there is a chance they are just funneling this through the fab and there is no 'tape-out' party that they care about

I could be completely wrong but that is the impression that I get
They're doing a standard cell ASIC, not a mere FPGA copy over. It's not quite full custom, like Bitfury's however, but it's next best thing.

The reason they can pull it off in the time frame they do is because they're able to access Orsoc's existing contractual agreements with the fabs they usually work with rather than starting from scratch like the other ASIC providers so far.

Frankly I'd like to hear it from them when they receive chips, that's going to be a gigantic milestone that will make everyone a lot less nervous, even for people like me that have a lot of trust in their effort. If they don't receive chips in august that's a huge problem for everyone, because that will mean cancelled orders for them and a lot of refunds. They've got a fiduciary responsibility to people whose money they've already received, but they have to balance that against whatever risks of informing their competitors on what they're doing, but I don't really see how that can really hurt them.

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Might be an obvious question, but without hosting by KNC could it still be possible to mine in their pool?
No, they will not allow this.

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July 28, 2013, 07:04:11 AM
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They're doing a standard cell ASIC, not a mere FPGA copy over.

Which ASIC vendor and which process?
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July 28, 2013, 07:07:50 AM
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No why would you want to?

Might be an obvious question, but without hosting by KNC could it still be possible to mine in their pool?

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July 28, 2013, 07:11:01 AM
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They're doing a standard cell ASIC, not a mere FPGA copy over.

Which ASIC vendor and which process?
Not sure either's been announced. But they have said it's a standard cell ASIC and not a mere FPGA copy-over.

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July 28, 2013, 01:03:16 PM
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Unfortunately, as far as I know we are still waiting to find out the tape-out date.   Huh
That's their business, I would be surprised if the bothered to tell you.



I would think paying customers would get some updates.. So far all I heard about was a hosting plan and you can spend more money to upgrade ..


Since when do Intel or nVidia tell their customers tape out dates?

ALL the time they give tape-out dates.  Shareholders like this info to keep from bailing on the stock.
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July 28, 2013, 01:18:43 PM
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Unfortunately, as far as I know we are still waiting to find out the tape-out date.   Huh
That's their business, I would be surprised if the bothered to tell you.



I would think paying customers would get some updates.. So far all I heard about was a hosting plan and you can spend more money to upgrade ..


Since when do Intel or nVidia tell their customers tape out dates?

ALL the time they give tape-out dates.  Shareholders like this info to keep from bailing on the stock.

Perhaps, but I think you keep forgetting that this is a 'formula one' race to the finish line, of which such information, and the precise time of it's arrival, thus being a milestine pinpointing how far the project is progressing, is highly competitor sensitive, albeit interesting for those with vested interests...

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