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February 14, 2015, 06:24:13 AM
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Slush pays well per block but as things average out, as we have seen in the last month or two, it can slow down to a halt. Those big gains you think you made in one day level out for those big 24hr blocks. If you spend enough time on Bitcoin Affiliate vs Slush pool on an normal average run, the rewards will be approx the same. 5thash on BFA will yield .06btc per day. 5thash on Slush will yield approx 0.012btc. You will need to find 5+ blocks per day to be consistently higher for the week on average.
There's no point quoting figures like '5 blocks' and '0.012 BTC'
They are purely dependent upon the pool hash rate and if the hash rate drops, although the number of blocks found is expected to drop, the amount you get paid per block will increase.

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February 14, 2015, 06:47:58 AM
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Slush pays well per block but as things average out, as we have seen in the last month or two, it can slow down to a halt. Those big gains you think you made in one day level out for those big 24hr blocks. If you spend enough time on Bitcoin Affiliate vs Slush pool on an normal average run, the rewards will be approx the same. 5thash on BFA will yield .06btc per day. 5thash on Slush will yield approx 0.012btc. You will need to find 5+ blocks per day to be consistently higher for the week on average.
There's no point quoting figures like '5 blocks' and '0.012 BTC'
They are purely dependent upon the pool hash rate and if the hash rate drops, although the number of blocks found is expected to drop, the amount you get paid per block will increase.

Yeah you're right but on average the pool does sit on 9thash. I'm simply applying the formula based on the figure in the title of the thread which is what most new member to the pool will initially see.

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February 14, 2015, 01:29:10 PM
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Well my experiment is done. Payout was prompt. Earning were no different to slush really but is a close 2nd.

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February 14, 2015, 11:00:37 PM
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Another double-bubble ..... ! Surely, this makes a difference ....

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February 16, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
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Well my experiment is done. Payout was prompt. Earning were no different to slush really but is a close 2nd.
I too have been experimenting with the payouts of a few pools, mainly Slush vs BTC Guild but also to a lesser extent with Eligius, I have dabbled with a few others but will not present those numbers at this time.

In October last year, I ran all 3 guilds at the same time and when the results are scaled to make sure they all received equal hash power, I find that I have a reward ratio of 5.28:4.37:3.68 (Slush:BTC Guild:Eligius)

Since then I have been only running Slush vs BTC Guild (lthough I tracked Eligius blocks to get a longer comparison) and in the last 106 days, Slush has earned more than BTC Guild on 64 days, with BTC doing better on 42 days - although by the end of today I suspect that will be 43 to BTC Guild. In terms of earnings, this a ratio of 1:0.82 (Slush:BTC Guild) - in other words, what ever your hash power, for every £1 you could generate at Slush, the same hash power would yield £0.82 at the BTC Guild.

We all hate the 1 day+ blocks and whilst I can see a correlation between pool hash power and no. blocks found, I cannot see any real correlation between pool hash power and average reward over time since as the power goes up, the blocks go up but the reward per block goes down. Notice I did not say anything about luck since over the last 3 months, the average number of blocks per day has remained fairly constant (4.8/day for Slush and 6.3/day for BTC Guild) so has our luck - around 100%. If anyone is interested, we are currently on 5.2/day for February as confirmed by the 7 day luck value.

Basically, I have a monster spreadsheet of figures, month-by-month, pool-by-pool, block-by-block and there is nothing strange going on anywhere that I can see (except my love of spreadsheets maybe  Embarrassed), so can we please stop with the conspiracy theories about our hash power of 10Ph, because they are ridiculous and I hate reading through them to get to the more interesting posts! We have had 10 blocks in a day at 8Ph and also at 12Ph but it all averages out in the end folks.

In conclusion, I have been with Slush for coming up to 2 years and have yet to find a better paying pool.

Cheers n beers for all

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February 16, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
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Well my experiment is done. Payout was prompt. Earning were no different to slush really but is a close 2nd.
I too have been experimenting with the payouts of a few pools, mainly Slush vs BTC Guild but also to a lesser extent with Eligius, I have dabbled with a few others but will not present those numbers at this time.

In October last year, I ran all 3 guilds at the same time and when the results are scaled to make sure they all received equal hash power, I find that I have a reward ratio of 5.28:4.37:3.68 (Slush:BTC Guild:Eligius)

Since then I have been only running Slush vs BTC Guild (lthough I tracked Eligius blocks to get a longer comparison) and in the last 106 days, Slush has earned more than BTC Guild on 64 days, with BTC doing better on 42 days - although by the end of today I suspect that will be 43 to BTC Guild. In terms of earnings, this a ratio of 1:0.82 (Slush:BTC Guild) - in other words, what ever your hash power, for every £1 you could generate at Slush, the same hash power would yield £0.82 at the BTC Guild.

We all hate the 1 day+ blocks and whilst I can see a correlation between pool hash power and no. blocks found, I cannot see any real correlation between pool hash power and average reward over time since as the power goes up, the blocks go up but the reward per block goes down. Notice I did not say anything about luck since over the last 3 months, the average number of blocks per day has remained fairly constant (4.8/day for Slush and 6.3/day for BTC Guild) so has our luck - around 100%. If anyone is interested, we are currently on 5.2/day for February as confirmed by the 7 day luck value.

Basically, I have a monster spreadsheet of figures, month-by-month, pool-by-pool, block-by-block and there is nothing strange going on anywhere that I can see (except my love of spreadsheets maybe  Embarrassed), so can we please stop with the conspiracy theories about our hash power of 10Ph, because they are ridiculous and I hate reading through them to get to the more interesting posts! We have had 10 blocks in a day at 8Ph and also at 12Ph but it all averages out in the end folks.

In conclusion, I have been with Slush for coming up to 2 years and have yet to find a better paying pool.

Cheers n beers for all

HP

Left Slush over a year ago when payments would not get fixed and got shorted on a few ( but in fairness there was once I received more than my fair share) then the pool hash rate dropped which made the variance get bigger so I left. I move a couple of miners back a couple days ago to give the pool another try. I like the new dashboard and it still shows the one and only block my USB miners found.
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February 16, 2015, 06:22:30 PM
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I've earned 0.00071229 in 30 minutes.  On slush I get approx. 0.008 per block.  At this rate it will take approx. 5.5 hours to earn 0.008btc

However.  By entering the last 10 block durations at http://www.csgnetwork.com/timescalc.html it gives an average duration of 5 hours 24 minutes.

10 previous was average 5 hours 16 minutes.

So, no real difference there.  Might go looking at some other pools to compare.

Unless some pool gets super lucky BAN pays the best because it is PPS with no fees and 1% bonus.
Except when they don't pay or they reduce your payout PPS rate because they feel like paying you less than they should Tongue
Or when every 9 blocks out of 10 is an orphan.

Or when they have "payout bugs"...

when has the orphan problem happened?
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February 16, 2015, 06:23:44 PM
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I've earned 0.00071229 in 30 minutes.  On slush I get approx. 0.008 per block.  At this rate it will take approx. 5.5 hours to earn 0.008btc

However.  By entering the last 10 block durations at http://www.csgnetwork.com/timescalc.html it gives an average duration of 5 hours 24 minutes.

10 previous was average 5 hours 16 minutes.

So, no real difference there.  Might go looking at some other pools to compare.

Unless some pool gets super lucky BAN pays the best because it is PPS with no fees and 1% bonus.
Except when they don't pay or they reduce your payout PPS rate because they feel like paying you less than they should Tongue

did you submit a ticket?  there are quite a few on this very forum who have submitted a ticket and got paid.

so, did you submit a ticket?
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February 16, 2015, 06:33:53 PM
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I've earned 0.00071229 in 30 minutes.  On slush I get approx. 0.008 per block.  At this rate it will take approx. 5.5 hours to earn 0.008btc

However.  By entering the last 10 block durations at http://www.csgnetwork.com/timescalc.html it gives an average duration of 5 hours 24 minutes.

10 previous was average 5 hours 16 minutes.

So, no real difference there.  Might go looking at some other pools to compare.

Unless some pool gets super lucky BAN pays the best because it is PPS with no fees and 1% bonus.
Except when they don't pay or they reduce your payout PPS rate because they feel like paying you less than they should Tongue

did you submit a ticket?  there are quite a few on this very forum who have submitted a ticket and got paid.

so, did you submit a ticket?

Probably prefers moaning if the BAN thread is anything to go by.  It's fight club over there.

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February 16, 2015, 06:36:56 PM
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I've earned 0.00071229 in 30 minutes.  On slush I get approx. 0.008 per block.  At this rate it will take approx. 5.5 hours to earn 0.008btc

However.  By entering the last 10 block durations at http://www.csgnetwork.com/timescalc.html it gives an average duration of 5 hours 24 minutes.

10 previous was average 5 hours 16 minutes.

So, no real difference there.  Might go looking at some other pools to compare.

Unless some pool gets super lucky BAN pays the best because it is PPS with no fees and 1% bonus.
Except when they don't pay or they reduce your payout PPS rate because they feel like paying you less than they should Tongue

did you submit a ticket?  there are quite a few on this very forum who have submitted a ticket and got paid.

so, did you submit a ticket?

Probably prefers moaning if the BAN thread is anything to go by.  It's fight club over there.

lol, small price for him to pay to get to hear himself talk
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February 16, 2015, 06:55:27 PM
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Moved my response to the BAN thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=854368.msg10481839#msg10481839
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February 17, 2015, 02:53:03 AM
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I've earned 0.00071229 in 30 minutes.  On slush I get approx. 0.008 per block.  At this rate it will take approx. 5.5 hours to earn 0.008btc

However.  By entering the last 10 block durations at http://www.csgnetwork.com/timescalc.html it gives an average duration of 5 hours 24 minutes.

10 previous was average 5 hours 16 minutes.

So, no real difference there.  Might go looking at some other pools to compare.

Unless some pool gets super lucky BAN pays the best because it is PPS with no fees and 1% bonus.
Except when they don't pay or they reduce your payout PPS rate because they feel like paying you less than they should Tongue

did you submit a ticket?  there are quite a few on this very forum who have submitted a ticket and got paid.

so, did you submit a ticket?

Probably prefers moaning if the BAN thread is anything to go by.  It's fight club over there.

lol, small price for him to pay to get to hear himself talk
... so the result of aurel57 and myself questioning that "miscalculation" of shares that was grossly in the favour of BAN ... i.e. every time there was a diff increase BAN profited from it (it was not in their favour the few RARE times there was a diff decrease) ... the result now is that they've repsonded and said they'd fix everyone's payouts rather than only those who knew about it and submitted a ticket.

Fuck ... I've caused a problem now Tongue

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February 17, 2015, 03:25:56 AM
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I've earned 0.00071229 in 30 minutes.  On slush I get approx. 0.008 per block.  At this rate it will take approx. 5.5 hours to earn 0.008btc

However.  By entering the last 10 block durations at http://www.csgnetwork.com/timescalc.html it gives an average duration of 5 hours 24 minutes.

10 previous was average 5 hours 16 minutes.

So, no real difference there.  Might go looking at some other pools to compare.

Unless some pool gets super lucky BAN pays the best because it is PPS with no fees and 1% bonus.
Except when they don't pay or they reduce your payout PPS rate because they feel like paying you less than they should Tongue
Or when every 9 blocks out of 10 is an orphan.

Or when they have "payout bugs"...

That's strange, s0br advertises 10% in his sig........... Roll Eyes

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February 17, 2015, 04:46:29 AM
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I've earned 0.00071229 in 30 minutes.  On slush I get approx. 0.008 per block.  At this rate it will take approx. 5.5 hours to earn 0.008btc

However.  By entering the last 10 block durations at http://www.csgnetwork.com/timescalc.html it gives an average duration of 5 hours 24 minutes.

10 previous was average 5 hours 16 minutes.

So, no real difference there.  Might go looking at some other pools to compare.

Unless some pool gets super lucky BAN pays the best because it is PPS with no fees and 1% bonus.
Except when they don't pay or they reduce your payout PPS rate because they feel like paying you less than they should Tongue
Or when every 9 blocks out of 10 is an orphan.

Or when they have "payout bugs"...

That's strange, s0br advertises 10% in his sig........... Roll Eyes

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February 17, 2015, 12:34:51 PM
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I've earned 0.00071229 in 30 minutes.  On slush I get approx. 0.008 per block.  At this rate it will take approx. 5.5 hours to earn 0.008btc

However.  By entering the last 10 block durations at http://www.csgnetwork.com/timescalc.html it gives an average duration of 5 hours 24 minutes.

10 previous was average 5 hours 16 minutes.

So, no real difference there.  Might go looking at some other pools to compare.

Unless some pool gets super lucky BAN pays the best because it is PPS with no fees and 1% bonus.
Except when they don't pay or they reduce your payout PPS rate because they feel like paying you less than they should Tongue

did you submit a ticket?  there are quite a few on this very forum who have submitted a ticket and got paid.

so, did you submit a ticket?

Probably prefers moaning if the BAN thread is anything to go by.  It's fight club over there.

lol, small price for him to pay to get to hear himself talk
... so the result of aurel57 and myself questioning that "miscalculation" of shares that was grossly in the favour of BAN ... i.e. every time there was a diff increase BAN profited from it (it was not in their favour the few RARE times there was a diff decrease) ... the result now is that they've repsonded and said they'd fix everyone's payouts rather than only those who knew about it and submitted a ticket.

Fuck ... I've caused a problem now Tongue

Kano it was not just that it happened for a short time period (as if I had been paid on time with my payouts set for 2 hours) but due to the fact the pool did not make payments for over a week+ so it effected a larger amount. Also when the payments went the other way when the difficulty went down... how many would have noticed their pending payments going up?? heck that is what most expect to see a increase when they mine on a PPS pool, so unless you were watching the moment of difficulty decrease nobody would notice this larger increase in their pending payment.  Since payments have been so delinquent people are watching them closer now than ever.  Also I have seen my pending payments in the past go up sometimes due to the pool fixing payments that were missed or not done right or payments that did not go thru, but once again nothing is said so most never know what happened.  ( this rant was to answer why or how nobody came forward or notice when the difficulty went down and they may have received more pay than they should)  These are things that should be fixed with out submitting a "ticket" and sounds like s0br has done this.
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February 17, 2015, 03:29:06 PM
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I have not mined on slush for over a year and I am glad I tried it out again as  it looks like a good day today so far.

Edit:  5 Blocks in the last 6 hours. Nice!
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February 17, 2015, 05:37:09 PM
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Lucky day so far  Cheesy

Hot time, summer in the city, back of my mine getting hot & gritty!!!
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February 17, 2015, 05:40:33 PM
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Lucky day so far  Cheesy

Don't jinx it!  Umm...   Stupid pool, hours again!  There, that should balance things.

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February 17, 2015, 06:15:11 PM
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Lucky day so far  Cheesy

Don't jinx it!  Umm...   Stupid pool, hours again!  There, that should balance things.

6 blocks in 9 hours
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February 17, 2015, 06:39:58 PM
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Crap!!  It's just popped 10PH.  Streak over.  Watch this one, 15 hours at least.

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