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September 28, 2014, 04:30:33 AM Last edit: September 28, 2014, 05:05:40 AM by Billbags |
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^ good safety write-up. Even one of those is really pushing a 15amp circuit. Us elect code states 1440w/12amp for no more than 3 hours at a time. Breakers trip with heat, not the actual amps, and most breakers can take more amps than rated for. If your running 1440w/12amp or more watts for more than 3 hours at a time those wires can heat up enough to burn your house down. Newly built houses may be worse because "copper clad" wire(instead of solid copper) from China that some builders use these days get extremely hot at lower watts due to the wire being "cheap tin" coated with copper. Heads up, Look Sharp and Remember - Safety First.
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September 28, 2014, 06:56:08 AM Last edit: September 28, 2014, 07:08:17 AM by toptek |
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^ good safety write-up. Even one of those is really pushing a 15amp circuit. Us elect code states 1440w/12amp for no more than 3 hours at a time. Breakers trip with heat, not the actual amps, and most breakers can take more amps than rated for. If your running 1440w/12amp or more watts for more than 3 hours at a time those wires can heat up enough to burn your house down. Newly built houses may be worse because "copper clad" wire(instead of solid copper) from China that some builders use these days get extremely hot at lower watts due to the wire being "cheap tin" coated with copper. Heads up, Look Sharp and Remember - Safety First.
I agree by all means Safety First don't burn you house down because of a S4,run a few s3 to match it and be safe.I'm not against the S4s. but What you may have to do your home to use it Safety or 2 or 3 at once is that worth it ? . I want one but as many say here it's more a Safety First thing ,it seems to be geared more for the business type farm might even be why so high a price. maybe the S 5 or higher S4 batch will be more home user friendly. I hope bitmain doesn't forget us home farmer/miners . with there cloud thing going. Home mining to me is not dead , it will never be like it was and will take more hardware geared for the home which over time i hope we see. The days of CPU and GPU mining to any extent are gone and i think that is why so many are against it now they lost a lot in a matter of weeks i can't blame them, but it had to happen.
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September 28, 2014, 07:24:29 AM |
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At 1380watts, I would problably run one on a 15amp circuit. But no higher watts than that. Be careful of other things plugged in or drawing power from that circuit/room. No tv's or appliances on that circuit with the miner. Mabey a ceiling fan and an occasional light only.
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September 28, 2014, 08:13:10 AM |
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Did the API brake too? My android monitoring apps for slush are not working any more since the change last night.
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September 28, 2014, 08:15:41 AM |
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Slush stopped posting here some time ago. Until the beginning of this year newbies couldn't make posts in normal threads and the members that were posting were just asking the same questions over and over. It had got really bad so slush quit posting in this thread because he was just repeating himself over and over because no one would read past posts for answers. He added the webchat, a ticket system and Facebook for announcements. It sucks but this forum had got out of control. Slush is a highly intelligent person and to explain the same simple things over and over again when there is a knowledge base link on the pool page and plenty of pages in the forum they could review over became too overwhelming. Also, at the same time having clueless miners accusing him of crazy things because they don't understand how a score based pool works wasn't very productive for anyone. He was trying to write new pool software for the pool and create a Stand alone bitcoin wallet to help bring bitcoin to wider audience so he stopped posting here to create those things. You can still post with him in the Development and Technical threads, so he is still available and answers questions, just not the ones that he has answered 1,000's of times since 2011. He left this thread unlocked so we could communicate and help each other out.
Finally. Another intelligent post. This one should be read by all newbs, but it probably won't
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September 28, 2014, 08:47:09 AM Last edit: September 28, 2014, 10:06:24 AM by toptek |
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At 1380watts, I would problably run one on a 15amp circuit. But no higher watts than that. Be careful of other things plugged in or drawing power from that circuit/room. No tv's or appliances on that circuit with the miner. Mabey a ceiling fan and an occasional light only.
Think about it with Kids run in around etc who gonna watch that i can hear it now my house blow up because of my S4 lol only because they weren't careful . I gonna wait knowing me i would learn how to install one the above things they said for peace of mind . + my box has two or three unused circuits i saw just not sure i want to get into that deal atm . Just be careful with these right now till bitmain makes them a little more home friendly which i hope they do . last thought then I'm let it go I want a S4 but not like it is now . Two more S3 I'm set i will have reached my goal and that should let me make about 400 a month extra spending money at 7 S3. after power costs etc . may add one more for the hell of it but 7 is were I plan to stop if I go past 10 lets say i may need to add a room or take one of the empty rooms in the house insult it and rewire and add a portable air con for the summer. right now seven to 8 would do it for me without to much expanding and won't need anymore air in the summer them i have now .
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September 28, 2014, 08:50:04 AM |
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Slush stopped posting here some time ago. Until the beginning of this year newbies couldn't make posts in normal threads and the members that were posting were just asking the same questions over and over. It had got really bad so slush quit posting in this thread because he was just repeating himself over and over because no one would read past posts for answers. He added the webchat, a ticket system and Facebook for announcements. It sucks but this forum had got out of control. Slush is a highly intelligent person and to explain the same simple things over and over again when there is a knowledge base link on the pool page and plenty of pages in the forum they could review over became too overwhelming. Also, at the same time having clueless miners accusing him of crazy things because they don't understand how a score based pool works wasn't very productive for anyone. He was trying to write new pool software for the pool and create a Stand alone bitcoin wallet to help bring bitcoin to wider audience so he stopped posting here to create those things. You can still post with him in the Development and Technical threads, so he is still available and answers questions, just not the ones that he has answered 1,000's of times since 2011. He left this thread unlocked so we could communicate and help each other out.
Finally. Another intelligent post. This one should be read by all newbs, but it probably won't I all ways look for this first and as a last resort ask newbie question and only then if I'm totally annoyed after hours of looking, even, then i hate to ask anything .
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September 28, 2014, 12:10:39 PM |
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Slush stopped posting here some time ago. Until the beginning of this year newbies couldn't make posts in normal threads and the members that were posting were just asking the same questions over and over. It had got really bad so slush quit posting in this thread because he was just repeating himself over and over because no one would read past posts for answers. He added the webchat, a ticket system and Facebook for announcements. It sucks but this forum had got out of control. Slush is a highly intelligent person and to explain the same simple things over and over again when there is a knowledge base link on the pool page and plenty of pages in the forum they could review over became too overwhelming. Also, at the same time having clueless miners accusing him of crazy things because they don't understand how a score based pool works wasn't very productive for anyone. He was trying to write new pool software for the pool and create a Stand alone bitcoin wallet to help bring bitcoin to wider audience so he stopped posting here to create those things. You can still post with him in the Development and Technical threads, so he is still available and answers questions, just not the ones that he has answered 1,000's of times since 2011. He left this thread unlocked so we could communicate and help each other out.
Finally. Another intelligent post. This one should be read by all newbs, but it probably won't I all ways look for this first and as a last resort ask newbie question and only then if I'm totally annoyed after hours of looking, even, then i hate to ask anything . We are a dying breed. But look at it this way, if something as 'technical' (for want of a better word - because it's pretty bloody straightforward) as bitcoins gets so much noise just imagine what it would be like on the more mundane forums.. gaming ones spring to mind though I'm not a gamer so can't speak from experience. PS Back after a year absence - that is to say mining in general - been on slush since day dot after solo mining was no longer an option and don't intend to change (though I might bugger off for several months at a time ) Great to be back!! cheers.
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September 28, 2014, 02:21:09 PM |
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Slush stopped posting here some time ago. Until the beginning of this year newbies couldn't make posts in normal threads and the members that were posting were just asking the same questions over and over. It had got really bad so slush quit posting in this thread because he was just repeating himself over and over because no one would read past posts for answers. He added the webchat, a ticket system and Facebook for announcements. It sucks but this forum had got out of control. Slush is a highly intelligent person and to explain the same simple things over and over again when there is a knowledge base link on the pool page and plenty of pages in the forum they could review over became too overwhelming. Also, at the same time having clueless miners accusing him of crazy things because they don't understand how a score based pool works wasn't very productive for anyone. He was trying to write new pool software for the pool and create a Stand alone bitcoin wallet to help bring bitcoin to wider audience so he stopped posting here to create those things. You can still post with him in the Development and Technical threads, so he is still available and answers questions, just not the ones that he has answered 1,000's of times since 2011. He left this thread unlocked so we could communicate and help each other out.
Thanks Billbags. I had seen what Slush said at the start of the Slush's Pool thread, but you've really filled in all the blanks. I would have preferred a strategy that didn't punish everybody for the actions of a few, but if the forum had got out of control, I can understand why Slush did it. Perhaps it's time for him to revisit it and at least post details of updates here. He doesn't have to reply to them. Just my tuppence worth.
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September 28, 2014, 02:36:50 PM |
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any miners hash drop down?
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September 28, 2014, 02:45:00 PM |
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It appears a few changes have been made to web interface such as new block found there is no processing appearing to show that blocks potential reward in statistics? ? While the new block has begun this is a little disconcerting as it doesn't show up it makes it appear we lost the work for the previous 10 hour block I'm sure it will show up but the 5-20 minutes of processing without it showing will be a visual ugg.....and as this is the first block completed since web changes we wont know what will show until 15 minutes or so have passed I hope they did not make changes to the way the statistics page works So they just removed the processing part block appears after calculations are made!!...not sure why they did this but once again with no updates as to when things are scheduled to roll out it is a little off putting to see changes aka. passwords no processing etc. when you are used to a certain format. I agree, it is disconcerting now that the newly found block just vanishes (temporarily), whereas it used to say 'Processing...", so you knew what was there. Just watched it happen with the latest one. Much preferred it how it was before.
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September 28, 2014, 02:48:32 PM |
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any miners hash drop down?
Mine are ok (so far).
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September 28, 2014, 03:18:21 PM |
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Slush stopped posting here some time ago. Until the beginning of this year newbies couldn't make posts in normal threads and the members that were posting were just asking the same questions over and over. It had got really bad so slush quit posting in this thread because he was just repeating himself over and over because no one would read past posts for answers. He added the webchat, a ticket system and Facebook for announcements. It sucks but this forum had got out of control. Slush is a highly intelligent person and to explain the same simple things over and over again when there is a knowledge base link on the pool page and plenty of pages in the forum they could review over became too overwhelming. Also, at the same time having clueless miners accusing him of crazy things because they don't understand how a score based pool works wasn't very productive for anyone. He was trying to write new pool software for the pool and create a Stand alone bitcoin wallet to help bring bitcoin to wider audience so he stopped posting here to create those things. You can still post with him in the Development and Technical threads, so he is still available and answers questions, just not the ones that he has answered 1,000's of times since 2011. He left this thread unlocked so we could communicate and help each other out.
Finally. Another intelligent post. This one should be read by all newbs, but it probably won't I all ways look for this first and as a last resort ask newbie question and only then if I'm totally annoyed after hours of looking, even, then i hate to ask anything . We are a dying breed. But look at it this way, if something as 'technical' (for want of a better word - because it's pretty bloody straightforward) as bitcoins gets so much noise just imagine what it would be like on the more mundane forums.. gaming ones spring to mind though I'm not a gamer so can't speak from experience. PS Back after a year absence - that is to say mining in general - been on slush since day dot after solo mining was no longer an option and don't intend to change (though I might bugger off for several months at a time ) Great to be back!! cheers. gaming what made me that way on those forums nothing but asses i play online games from time to time excuse that one word but they are . this stuff is real to life on gaming forums it's a mess imo these forums they seem a lot nicer but i would still look for my self .
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September 28, 2014, 03:26:37 PM |
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Estimated reward all ready and i just moved all my miner here 0.00186633 picking up .
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September 28, 2014, 04:07:46 PM |
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Hi, does anybody know why the closed blocks don't sign anything in the "unconfirmed reward"?
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September 28, 2014, 04:31:11 PM Last edit: September 29, 2014, 08:25:02 AM by Billbags |
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@toptek Quote from "toptek" "gaming what made me that way on those forums nothing but asses i play online games from time to time excuse that one word but they are . this stuff is real to life on gaming forums it's a mess imo these forums they seem a lot nicer but i would still look for my self" . [/quote]
This forum is the only Social Media interaction I have with people online. I made the decision early on in the "My Space" and "Facebook" days to live my life free from most mainstream social media, I don't have anything against it, although I do believe a "person" makes good decisions but a "group of people" can often make bad ones(group mentality). There are good sections of this forum and bad sections of this forum. I'm very conservative and "anti-political correct" and I question everything in life - people, media, government and church and try to do unbiased factual research, not just what everyone else is thinking/saying/feeling without research, to reach my beliefs on those four subjects. I'm not against those things I'm just careful about the mass production for mass consumption type mentality thats evolved in this country. I have traveled and lived all over the world when I was in the military and have experienced a lot of cultures, people and governments so I assume that's why I'm this way. My biggest problem from not using social media is learning what's "accepted" as normal by the "group mentality" that's currently evolved in a specific thread. I think I may come off as rude or biased most of the time online, I do believe and accept that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views on life and I'm actually a very happy and free spirited person In everyday life, I just come off as a grouch online.
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September 28, 2014, 06:28:59 PM |
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SLUSH is reporting they won 322930 & 322947, but BLOCKCHAIN is reporting that 322930 went to BTC Guild and 322947 went to AntPool. What's going on?
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September 28, 2014, 06:55:14 PM |
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^ must have been close and checking the timestamps. Blockchain.info isn't the blockchain, so let's hope they are wrong. Things like this is what those 100 confirmations are all about. I hope it goes our way for at least one if not both.
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September 28, 2014, 07:23:51 PM |
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@toptek Quote from "toptek" "gaming what made me that way on those forums nothing but asses i play online games from time to time excuse that one word but they are . this stuff is real to life on gaming forums it's a mess imo these forums they seem a lot nicer but i would still look for my self" .
This forum is the only Social Media interaction I have with people online. I made the decision early on in the "My Space" and "Facebook" days to live my life free from most mainstream social media, I don't have anything against it, although I do believe a "person" makes good decisions but a "group of people" can often make bad ones(group mentality). There are good sections of this forum and bad sections of this forum(IMHO). I'm very conservative and "anti-political correct" and I question everything in life - people, media, government and church and try to do unbiased factual research, not just what everyone else is thinking/saying/feeling without research, to reach my beliefs on those four subjects. I have traveled and lived all over the world when I was in the military and have experienced a lot of cultures, people and governments so I assume that's why I'm this way. My biggest problem from not using social media is learning what's "accepted" as normal by the "group mentality" that's currently evolved in a specific thread. I think I may come off as rude or biased most of the time online, I do believe and accept that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views on life and I'm actually a very happy and free spirited person In everyday life, I just come off as a grouch online. [/quote] your fine I've lived in most of the world my self my dad was in the service before he died as far as i can remember i was over seas mostly in Germany . but been all over the US with him and once i grew up on my own etc etc . so excuse me when i say some thing i never mean what i say as a bad thing . I very happy to thu at times it may not seem that way .. i don't care much for FB etc nor IRC i think its called i only use them because i have to from time to time . I have non about bitcoins for years even tired it once back when it first started and we could only do it with CPUs but then I saw no value in it. not even sure what got me to look into it this year around April best thing in my life i ever did . I've been disabled sense i was 18 worked till i couldn't any more at 45 . I'm now 58 this keep me jumping more then any game does and has more reward . cya
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September 28, 2014, 08:15:13 PM |
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SLUSH is reporting they won 322930 & 322947, but BLOCKCHAIN is reporting that 322930 went to BTC Guild and 322947 went to AntPool. What's going on? Both are showing being reported from US near New York as well ***fingers Crossed**** we need the luck
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BTC ADDY just in case you are my rich uncle lol 1KCQ4fXa3mWBvBsYRLmWY4QHqBa4ZYFdh6
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