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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 121076 times)
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June 27, 2018, 05:15:35 PM
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You could produce a secret hybrid ASIC/FPGA around $500 easily: You have to put every Hash functions use by CryptoNight like keccak, Jh, AES, Groestl, on an ASIC chip, and use a low fpga with some SRAM for the main loop and the scratchpad.

If Bitmain already produce the sophon sc1 for AI, why they couldn't produce a similar one for mining like above ?

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June 27, 2018, 05:51:56 PM
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Guys, find with https://dero.fairhash.org/ super fast blocks on a new blockchain
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June 27, 2018, 06:00:20 PM
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Guys, find with https://dero.fairhash.org/ super fast blocks on a new blockchain

Nice thank you, decent website btw...a lot of pools have crappy sites, so thank you :-)
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June 27, 2018, 06:19:08 PM
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You could produce a secret hybrid ASIC/FPGA around $500 easily: You have to put every Hash functions use by CryptoNight like keccak, Jh, AES, Groestl, on an ASIC chip, and use a low fpga with some SRAM for the main loop and the scratchpad.

If Bitmain already produce the sophon sc1 for AI, why they couldn't produce a similar one for mining like above ?


You can certainly offload the hash functions to an ASIC, but if there is a need to move a lot of data into and out of memory rapidly then you either have to suffer with performance no better than a GPU (and that's only if your board design engineers are as good as those at Nvidia or AMD) or else put it on the ASIC die, which is exceptionally expensive (there's a reason why there is so little L3 cache relative to system DRAM). So the performance of this setup would likely be better than a pure FPGA solution, but hard-coding the hash functions into an ASIC is what makes an ASIC so easy to brick.

That said, I'm no longer interested in fighting this battle. The DERO team decided to stick with original CN because reasons and neither I, nor anyone else, is likely to change their minds. That doesn't mean I'm going to go buy an ASIC, however; the network will just have to get along without me, which I'm sure it will do just fine.

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June 27, 2018, 06:23:28 PM
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Guys, find with https://dero.fairhash.org/ super fast blocks on a new blockchain

Nice thank you, decent website btw...a lot of pools have crappy sites, so thank you :-)

we will be glad to see you and other miners here, as well, join our community in the telegram channel https://t.me/joinchat/B-GpfU1DYnzi5mhQ45I3rQ
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June 27, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
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v1 blocks cannot be mined (these are imported  blocks), rejecting

Can someone explain me?
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June 27, 2018, 09:05:52 PM
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Am I late, the main network is already up?
Tell me how many transactions per second it processes?
Hopefully more than" old " blockchains.
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June 27, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
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v1 blocks cannot be mined (these are imported  blocks), rejecting

Can someone explain me?

Algo is still cryptonight, nothing change here
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June 27, 2018, 09:21:12 PM
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Am I late, the main network is already up?
Tell me how many transactions per second it processes?
Hopefully more than" old " blockchains.

Yes, pools already works on new blockchain. Now it looks good, if you want to mine DERO you can do it on fairhash.org
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June 27, 2018, 10:24:00 PM
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The problem of lost trust extends into any long term planning and capital investment. Who will buy an ASIC knowing the algo can be switched overnight? Who will buy coins if reward can be changed without any warning?

And the question about regulatory pressure on incorporated Dero is valid too. Looks like many questions and concerns have been raised and not yet addressed by the team.
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June 27, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
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Am I late, the main network is already up?
Tell me how many transactions per second it processes?
Hopefully more than" old " blockchains.

Yes, pools already works on new blockchain. Now it looks good, if you want to mine DERO you can do it on fairhash.org

Yes, thank you, it would be interesting to compare blockchain projects with DAG today, to search and analyze their capabilities. This year I noticed a tendency of blockchain in this direction.
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June 27, 2018, 10:45:25 PM
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If I understand correctly a new blockchain for Dero has just been released? Could someone please sum up details and implications?

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June 27, 2018, 10:57:29 PM
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If I understand correctly a new blockchain for Dero has just been released? Could someone please sum up details and implications?

The new blockchain changes from the old traditional PoW blockchain, to a new custom DAG-PoW blockchain.

This has enabled extremely fast block times, currently averaging around 10 seconds, with much increased tps capabilities, i think it was somewhere around 500 something, and is scalable based on resources.

It has implemented bulletproofs to reduce transaction sizes.

Increased resistance to attacks, supposedly truly eliminated double spending, shadow addresses, and eliminated orphan blocks.

I mean, it's one of the biggest upgrades in all of crypto right now and nobody knows about it lol, and others well they're too busy getting worked up over the ASIC resistance debate.
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June 28, 2018, 05:07:30 AM
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If I understand correctly a new blockchain for Dero has just been released? Could someone please sum up details and implications?

The new blockchain changes from the old traditional PoW blockchain, to a new custom DAG-PoW blockchain.

This has enabled extremely fast block times, currently averaging around 10 seconds, with much increased tps capabilities, i think it was somewhere around 500 something, and is scalable based on resources.

It has implemented bulletproofs to reduce transaction sizes.

Increased resistance to attacks, supposedly truly eliminated double spending, shadow addresses, and eliminated orphan blocks.

I mean, it's one of the biggest upgrades in all of crypto right now and nobody knows about it lol, and others well they're too busy getting worked up over the ASIC resistance debate.

Thanks for the summary and all.
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June 28, 2018, 08:09:00 AM
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When moon ? When lambo ? 😂 😂 😂
It's a joke of course, know that the team has our support after the decisions it made. Just in the future, we will have to make efforts on communication.
Thanks for works Smiley
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June 28, 2018, 11:12:22 AM
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When will the source code be released? All I ever hear is "in a few days". But the devs said the same thing after atlantis and it turned out to take nearly a month before it was pushed to mainnet. Can we actually expect it to be "in a few days" or not?
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June 28, 2018, 11:31:38 AM
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When will the source code be released? All I ever hear is "in a few days". But the devs said the same thing after atlantis and it turned out to take nearly a month before it was pushed to mainnet. Can we actually expect it to be "in a few days" or not?


Jesus, why does it matter so much if its out in three days or two weeks? Do you have a rare disease where you will die if you can't see it in time?
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June 28, 2018, 06:14:45 PM
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When will the source code be released? All I ever hear is "in a few days". But the devs said the same thing after atlantis and it turned out to take nearly a month before it was pushed to mainnet. Can we actually expect it to be "in a few days" or not?


Jesus, why does it matter so much if its out in three days or two weeks? Do you have a rare disease where you will die if you can't see it in time?

This may be true, that good code helps against certain diseases.
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June 28, 2018, 09:37:20 PM
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I'm curious why block times were moved from 9 seconds to 12 seconds from testnet to mainnet and why are TPS 75 when (if i'm not mistaken) testnet was upwards of 350 tps to as high as 1,000 tps and Atlantis was claiming around 500 TPS prior to testnet / mainnet? What is the plan going forward to scale that? Are you guys planning to do a write up explaining what you hoped for, what you're currently at, and what you plan to do to improve the network scalability in the future or the avenues you're considering for scalability in the future?
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June 28, 2018, 11:38:49 PM
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If I understand correctly a new blockchain for Dero has just been released? Could someone please sum up details and implications?

The new blockchain changes from the old traditional PoW blockchain, to a new custom DAG-PoW blockchain.

This has enabled extremely fast block times, currently averaging around 10 seconds, with much increased tps capabilities, i think it was somewhere around 500 something, and is scalable based on resources.

It has implemented bulletproofs to reduce transaction sizes.

Increased resistance to attacks, supposedly truly eliminated double spending, shadow addresses, and eliminated orphan blocks.

I mean, it's one of the biggest upgrades in all of crypto right now and nobody knows about it lol, and others well they're too busy getting worked up over the ASIC resistance debate.

Thanks for the summary and all.

No problem, looking forward to seeing the continued development of Dero, it is really one of the more interesting projects out there.  So many copy/paste and poor coders, this is obviously something different, from talented developers.
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