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April 06, 2018, 02:32:52 PM
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Well, I see you are tryharder, you are very good at gaining merit, but there aren´t many people like you. They are here to spend free time and don´t want to stress with merit. No offense Wink
Why not reach those required number of merits? I think Theymos set up appropriate and reachable merits for each rank. For example, to rank up to Full Member, user will need 120 activities and 100 merits for the period of 120 days (around 4 months). I don't see any problem to earn 100 merit over 4 months.
Haha, it's a little bit hard than before merit system but it is possible.

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April 06, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
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Well there are some people who think that the merit required to rank up is low and need to be higher. For me, the required merit to rank up for each rank is okay, you can attain it if you are worthy enough mate. Learn and contribute, then you may find it is not pretty high.
Yeah, for real constructive, helpful, knowledgeable users, the current required merit to hit each member rank in the forum is fine. I believe users have enough long period of time to collect merit points to rank up. Take it easy and think positive. The merit system and new rank requirements are achievable tasks. It is only un-achievable tasks for spammers, account farmers.

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April 06, 2018, 03:56:43 PM
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Merit is probably good decision, because there are a lot of new members here, who want only earn here, but I think that required merit is pretty high.

Well there are some people who think that the merit required to rank up is low and need to be higher. For me, the required merit to rank up for each rank is okay, you can attain it if you are worthy enough mate. Learn and contribute, then you may find it is not pretty high.
Well, I see you are tryharder, you are very good at gaining merit, but there aren´t many people like you. They are here to spend free time and don´t want to stress with merit. No offense Wink


Nah, none taken. But i guess the best free time spent is when that free times give you something or make you earn something, example, earn merits. It is better rather than you dont earn anything in your free time.

Just a thought of mine.
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April 06, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
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Can anyone explain why I am still stuck at 28 Activity even though the 2 week period has already lapsed? Do I need merit to become a Jr. Member?
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April 06, 2018, 05:16:51 PM
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Can anyone explain why I am still stuck at 28 Activity even though the 2 week period has already lapsed? Do I need merit to become a Jr. Member?
You are not. I'm seeing 34 points of activity.

It takes some time for your activity/rank to update.

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April 06, 2018, 05:25:54 PM
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I think I'm always be a Jr. Member.. It's hard to get merit, without good English... Cry
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April 06, 2018, 05:37:35 PM
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I think I'm always be a Jr. Member.. It's hard to get merit, without good English... Cry

You still can get merits. The answer is your local board. Make some good posts and do some contribution in your local board and i believe there will be people who appreciate it. Although it only increases the chance to get merits, it is still better than having no chances..
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April 06, 2018, 05:52:07 PM
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I think I'm always be a Jr. Member.. It's hard to get merit, without good English... Cry

You still can get merits. The answer is your local board. Make some good posts and do some contribution in your local board and i believe there will be people who appreciate it. Although it only increases the chance to get merits, it is still better than having no chances..
Thank you sir for being a good mentor and for guiding me on the right path... Smiley
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April 06, 2018, 06:12:28 PM
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I realize that I can be a dick...well, you may not like the style in which I make my points (as I said, I am not here to make friends)....but it seems no one made ANY effort to refute my points...I was just told over and over that I wouldn't be getting merit because of my attitude...nothing at all to do with the validity of my ideas (which proved my point)...the bottom line is that we now have a system than can easily be abused and is SANCTIONED by the powers that be...as I said before, there is way too much merit being given out simply for discussing merit...not one of you replied to my question about the user who received over 100 merit in 60 days simply by posting positive crap about the merit system...and for those of you who say I wont be getting any merit...what is to stop me from opening a new account...going to the merit-related threads...and posting kiss-ass comments about the merit system??...I will be a full member by the end of summer...easy...and what makes you think that the sock puppets have not already figured that out??
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April 06, 2018, 07:34:30 PM
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I realize that I can be a dick...well, you may not like the style in which I make my points (as I said, I am not here to make friends)....but it seems no one made ANY effort to refute my points...I was just told over and over that I wouldn't be getting merit because of my attitude...nothing at all to do with the validity of my ideas (which proved my point)...the bottom line is that we now have a system than can easily be abused and is SANCTIONED by the powers that be...as I said before, there is way too much merit being given out simply for discussing merit...not one of you replied to my question about the user who received over 100 merit in 60 days simply by posting positive crap about the merit system...and for those of you who say I wont be getting any merit...what is to stop me from opening a new account...going to the merit-related threads...and posting kiss-ass comments about the merit system??...I will be a full member by the end of summer...easy...and what makes you think that the sock puppets have not already figured that out??
I know how you feel, I think that are more people with same opinion. I dont want to ask someone for merit, that I have posted real good posts...

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April 07, 2018, 12:08:24 AM
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This new arrangement means newbies,and jr members have to do a lot more interesting and eye catching activities on this forum to increase their membership ranking, while hero members upwards can be in a much more relaxed and laid back position regarding their activities and posts.
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April 07, 2018, 02:38:40 AM
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Yeah, you should have right attitude about merit system and new rank requirements. It will help you to feel more comfortable when dealing with harder ranking requirements after the launch of merit system. You can not do anything (including learning new knowledge, helping others, sharing your experiences, etc.) if you keep such negative thoughts about merit system.
That's my general recommendations for you.
I was just told over and over that I wouldn't be getting merit because of my attitude...nothing at all to do with the validity of my ideas (which proved my point)...
There are lots of massive merit farmers, merit abusers have been found and punished with permanently bans from forum moderators. That's final destination for abusers. If they abuse the system, some day they will be punished for sure.
the bottom line is that we now have a system than can easily be abused and is SANCTIONED by the powers that be...

No one can stop you (at least with current rules of the forum) to keep creating shitty-threads, topics about merit-related issues. However, you should remember that you will get nothing by doing this. It is simply take your time for non-sense.
what is to stop me from opening a new account...going to the merit-related threads...and posting kiss-ass comments about the merit system??...
I understand your feelings, how hard it is. I almost rank up to Senior Member level, but due to amazing effect of merit system, I have been stucked at Full Member rank. Nevertheless, I strongly support merit system, which will help to build up the forum as better place for clean discussions, wipe out most of shitty-threads (mainly come from spammers, farmers, etc.)
The period of time required for a Newbie to become Senior member is around 250 days with old ranking system (250 acitivities equal to 250 days). That means newcomers will have more than 8 months to collect 250 merit points to meet requirements of new ranking system. 8 or 9 months are long enough for such a difficult task. I don't say it is easy, but it is possible.

Good luck, fella.
I will be a full member by the end of summer...easy...and what makes you think that the sock puppets have not already figured that out??

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April 07, 2018, 02:48:15 AM
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I was just told over and over that I wouldn't be getting merit because of my attitude...
Who told you this?  The reason I ask is because that's generally an untrue statement--you can be contrary till your heart's content, but your contrarian thoughts had better be written in proper English.  And formatted properly.  What you wrote here is kind of a jumbled mess of words that aren't structured into sentences.  Normally this is something I'd probably just skip over.  

I had to look, because I swear I left you merit before.  I guess I didn't.  But I've left merits for people who've vehemently disagreed with me, and I have no problem doing so.  It's the scammers and shitposters who aren't going to get merited (from me).  You've already earned more merits than a lot of members of your rank, and that's because you can write English fairly well.  You just need to clean it up a little, and that's only my opinion.  You are free to do what you want and argue with whoever you want.

edit:  and I would like to know your opinion of the point I mentioned above about the guy w/ a 95 day old account w/ merit of 104...mostly for posting about the merit system over the course of 60 days...which is 1.73 merit points per day...thanks
I wasn't talking about you, and I don't know why you took this so personally.  *Oh, wait, I had to read further and recall blasting you for that quote*

What you wrote was total nonsense, and it sounded like the generic shitposts these idiots keep writing to satisfy quotas.  You'll have to excuse me if your irony/sarcasm/whatever sailed over my head, because I don't know who you are yet.  It's not the first time I've shot off my mouth without first saying hello.

I don't have an opinion about the 104-merit-guy, because I haven't looked at his profile yet.  Is there a link that I'm missing?  But I would point out that some people can be brilliant writers, like nullius, and they can earn merit very quickly.  That's super-rare, though.  More often than not, when you have a guy with that much merit and that much activity, it's a consummated merit trade.  People know how much merit is worth and they're stingy with it.  There's no way in hell that a typical shitposter is going to be given merits UNLESS he bought them or it's a friend or alt account.  That much I'm sure of.

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April 07, 2018, 02:55:27 AM
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I realize that I can be a dick...well, you may not like the style in which I make my points (as I said, I am not here to make friends)....but it seems no one made ANY effort to refute my points...I was just told over and over that I wouldn't be getting merit because of my attitude...nothing at all to do with the validity of my ideas (which proved my point)...the bottom line is that we now have a system than can easily be abused and is SANCTIONED by the powers that be...as I said before, there is way too much merit being given out simply for discussing merit...not one of you replied to my question about the user who received over 100 merit in 60 days simply by posting positive crap about the merit system...and for those of you who say I wont be getting any merit...what is to stop me from opening a new account...going to the merit-related threads...and posting kiss-ass comments about the merit system??...I will be a full member by the end of summer...easy...and what makes you think that the sock puppets have not already figured that out??

Go ahead then. It's likely not as easy as it sounds. Sure, some will earn merits in sleazier ways than others. This is not an exact science and not everyone's path to merits will be the same. But once the novelty wears off I doubt you'd earn many merits for shilling the merit system. And...your...punctuation...would...be...a...dead...giveaway...

Edit: I must resist giving The Pharmacist all my merits. He has a way of putting my deepest thoughts into words. What a sleazy merit farmer.

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April 07, 2018, 05:06:09 AM
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I was just told over and over that I wouldn't be getting merit because of my attitude...
Who told you this?  The reason I ask is because that's generally an untrue statement--you can be contrary till your heart's content, but your contrarian thoughts had better be written in proper English.  And formatted properly.  What you wrote here is kind of a jumbled mess of words that aren't structured into sentences.  Normally this is something I'd probably just skip over.  

I had to look, because I swear I left you merit before.  I guess I didn't.  But I've left merits for people who've vehemently disagreed with me, and I have no problem doing so.  It's the scammers and shitposters who aren't going to get merited (from me).  You've already earned more merits than a lot of members of your rank, and that's because you can write English fairly well.  You just need to clean it up a little, and that's only my opinion.  You are free to do what you want and argue with whoever you want.

edit:  and I would like to know your opinion of the point I mentioned above about the guy w/ a 95 day old account w/ merit of 104...mostly for posting about the merit system over the course of 60 days...which is 1.73 merit points per day...thanks
I wasn't talking about you, and I don't know why you took this so personally.  *Oh, wait, I had to read further and recall blasting you for that quote*

What you wrote was total nonsense, and it sounded like the generic shitposts these idiots keep writing to satisfy quotas.  You'll have to excuse me if your irony/sarcasm/whatever sailed over my head, because I don't know who you are yet.  It's not the first time I've shot off my mouth without first saying hello.

I don't have an opinion about the 104-merit-guy, because I haven't looked at his profile yet.  Is there a link that I'm missing?  But I would point out that some people can be brilliant writers, like nullius, and they can earn merit very quickly.  That's super-rare, though.  More often than not, when you have a guy with that much merit and that much activity, it's a consummated merit trade.  People know how much merit is worth and they're stingy with it.  There's no way in hell that a typical shitposter is going to be given merits UNLESS he bought them or it's a friend or alt account.  That much I'm sure of.

are you fucking kidding me....let me tell you right now, that I did not even read your entire comment yet....proper English??....is that the measure of who is and is not a spammer...or is it you flexing your balls???...this system was supposedly set up to keep spammers and bots from abusing the system...not to allow people like you to abuse the system.....yes sir, yes sir....I am not a bot...can I advance now??...eat shit
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April 07, 2018, 05:14:20 AM
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or is it you flexing your balls??
How does one flex his balls?

In any case, since this is a discussion forum--and words are the medium through which we communicate, and in this section English words are the ones used--it makes sense that yes, you are being judged on what and how you write.  Even a simpleton would grasp this. 

If you'd like to create a picture of me wrapping every square inch of my nutsack around these shitposters, then I won't dissuade you from doing that.  I rather like that image myself, but I would not have come up with it had you not mentioned my aforesaid testiclats.

If we as a community don't take the time to call out these spammers for what they are, we'll end up with a forum filled with this:

I think I'm always be a Jr. Member.. It's hard to get merit, without good English... Cry
Can anyone explain why I am still stuck at 28 Activity even though the 2 week period has already lapsed? Do I need merit to become a Jr. Member?
And I could fill up many pages with examples like this, but for my convenience I've sampled only shitposts on this page.  There are those of us who would like the forum not to become a breeding ground for such nonsense.  If you're OK with people getting paid to write incoherent bandwidth-waste, then just say so.  I'm thinking that you don't quite understand the scope of the problem we're facing.

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April 07, 2018, 05:17:00 AM
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I realize that I can be a dick...well, you may not like the style in which I make my points (as I said, I am not here to make friends)....but it seems no one made ANY effort to refute my points...I was just told over and over that I wouldn't be getting merit because of my attitude...nothing at all to do with the validity of my ideas (which proved my point)...the bottom line is that we now have a system than can easily be abused and is SANCTIONED by the powers that be...as I said before, there is way too much merit being given out simply for discussing merit...not one of you replied to my question about the user who received over 100 merit in 60 days simply by posting positive crap about the merit system...and for those of you who say I wont be getting any merit...what is to stop me from opening a new account...going to the merit-related threads...and posting kiss-ass comments about the merit system??...I will be a full member by the end of summer...easy...and what makes you think that the sock puppets have not already figured that out??

Go ahead then. It's likely not as easy as it sounds. Sure, some will earn merits in sleazier ways than others. This is not an exact science and not everyone's path to merits will be the same. But once the novelty wears off I doubt you'd earn many merits for shilling the merit system. And...your...punctuation...would...be...a...dead...giveaway...

Edit: I must resist giving The Pharmacist all my merits. He has a way of putting my deepest thoughts into words. What a sleazy merit farmer.

as the only one who has awarded me merit for merit-unrelated posts...I must respect your opinion....and in the end all I can say is...."very nice"...at least you can convey some intellectual honesty
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April 07, 2018, 05:22:04 AM
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or is it you flexing your balls??
How does one flex his balls?

In any case, since this is a discussion forum--and words are the medium through which we communicate, and in this section English words are the ones used--it makes sense that yes, you are being judged on what and how you write.  Even a simpleton would grasp this. 

If you'd like to create a picture of me wrapping every square inch of my nutsack around these shitposters, then I won't dissuade you from doing that.  I rather like that image myself, but I would not have come up with it had you not mentioned my aforesaid testiclats.

If we as a community don't take the time to call out these spammers for what they are, we'll end up with a forum filled with this:

I think I'm always be a Jr. Member.. It's hard to get merit, without good English... Cry
Can anyone explain why I am still stuck at 28 Activity even though the 2 week period has already lapsed? Do I need merit to become a Jr. Member?
And I could fill up many pages with examples like this, but for my convenience I've sampled only shitposts on this page.  There are those of us who would like the forum not to become a breeding ground for such nonsense.  If you're OK with people getting paid to write incoherent bandwidth-waste, then just say so.  I'm thinking that you don't quite understand the scope of the problem we're facing.


so...youre the boss then...the system was designed to weed out bots and sock puppets...and you've decided to use it to aggrandize yourself and decide who has proper diction...good for you big man
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April 07, 2018, 05:25:25 AM
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and btw....I DO understand the scope of the problem...I just wish that some of you would understand the scope of your arbitrary power...thank you
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April 07, 2018, 05:30:49 AM
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I mean seriously, at this point do you really think I am a bot or a sock puppet account??....or is it that I just refuse to agree with you??

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