Official Thread: AMT

[MrTeal]

Checking reviews on PSU's brought another point - if it has multiple 12v rails (like the e-Power ones do) - check the wattage rating of them. Case in point, a 1500w e-Power one I saw has 6 rails - but each has a max rating of only 264w (12v*22a) and the blades need 300w each or more...

Really looking like multiple supplies is gonna be the easiest way to go.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-HP-BLC-7000-Hot-Plug-PSU-2450W-Part-488603-001-488603-001-/111315648756?pt=US_Server_Power_Supplies&hash=item19eaee00f4

Would you know how to retro-fit this kind of a supply to work ?

Similarly to other server PSUs, you have to wire up PS_KILL and PS_ON, but other than that it's pretty simple.
Plus it would run one of your AMT miners at 92% efficiency with loads of headroom
http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/HEWLETT%20PACKARD_499243-B21_SO-041_2450W_80+_Report.pdf

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[opieum2]

Hopefully I see the tracking info today, hoping to get these things up and running.

[Chazaki]

Hopefully I see the tracking info today, hoping to get these things up and running.

Me too. Was told either yesterday or today and, well, the tracking info didn't come yesterday...

[s1crow]

Got this e-mail today:


"Hi Steven,

Jim took a leave of absence due to stress and basically coming close to a heart attack the other day.

I'll take over on this one and I'll get back to you a bit later today regarding your orders.

Thanks and all the best to you,

Alyssa".


All my best to Jim, I hope he gets his health back soon.  I am sure he is under a lot of stress lately.

[FrictionlessCoin]

Got this e-mail today:


"Hi Steven,

Jim took a leave of absence due to stress and basically coming close to a heart attack the other day.

I'll take over on this one and I'll get back to you a bit later today regarding your orders.

Thanks and all the best to you,

Alyssa".


All my best to Jim, I hope he gets his health back soon.  I am sure he is under a lot of stress lately.

Wow....  I can just imagine... not only do they have upset customers... they've got legal folks and government officials now watching them like a hawk.   I would not want to be in their position.

[loshia]

Got this e-mail today:


"Hi Steven,

Jim took a leave of absence due to stress and basically coming close to a heart attack the other day.

I'll take over on this one and I'll get back to you a bit later today regarding your orders.

Thanks and all the best to you,

Alyssa".


All my best to Jim, I hope he gets his health back soon.  I am sure he is under a lot of stress lately.

Wow....  I can just imagine... not only do they have upset customers... they've got legal folks and government officials now watching them like a hawk.   I would not want to be in their position.

Do you guy's believe in this shit?
There is no Jim there or if there is one it is not your fault at all
Basically everyone gets what he deserves someday....

[opieum2]

Got this e-mail today:


"Hi Steven,

Jim took a leave of absence due to stress and basically coming close to a heart attack the other day.

I'll take over on this one and I'll get back to you a bit later today regarding your orders.

Thanks and all the best to you,

Alyssa".


All my best to Jim, I hope he gets his health back soon.  I am sure he is under a lot of stress lately.

Wow....  I can just imagine... not only do they have upset customers... they've got legal folks and government officials now watching them like a hawk.   I would not want to be in their position.

Do you guy's believe in this shit?
There is no Jim there or if there is one it is not your fault at all
Basically everyone gets what he deserves someday....

No offense....actually I am totally offending, but you are a dick. Phin already actually met Jim and even had a smoke with the guy. So yea this particular bit could easily be the real deal. It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and say the kind of shit you do without really thinking about it. With all the crap coming down on them now this could easily be the case. Not wishing someone dies or get a heart-attack over this.
And at least someone from AMT is handling the order. Wishing someone's death over something like this is just all sorts of fucked up. But then karma is a bitch and it usually rebounds on the person wishing the death (if you believe in Karma but usually the universe somehow makes it work).

[loshia]

Got this e-mail today:


"Hi Steven,

Jim took a leave of absence due to stress and basically coming close to a heart attack the other day.

I'll take over on this one and I'll get back to you a bit later today regarding your orders.

Thanks and all the best to you,

Alyssa".


All my best to Jim, I hope he gets his health back soon.  I am sure he is under a lot of stress lately.

Wow....  I can just imagine... not only do they have upset customers... they've got legal folks and government officials now watching them like a hawk.   I would not want to be in their position.

Do you guy's believe in this shit?
There is no Jim there or if there is one it is not your fault at all
Basically everyone gets what he deserves someday....

No offense....actually I am totally offending, but you are a dick. Phin already actually met Jim and even had a smoke with the guy. So yea this particular bit could easily be the real deal. It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and say the kind of shit you do without really thinking about it. With all the crap coming down on them now this could easily be the case. Not wishing someone dies or get a heart-attack over this.
And at least someone from AMT is handling the order. Wishing someone's death over something like this is just all sorts of fucked up. But then karma is a bitch and it usually rebounds on the person wishing the death (if you believe in Karma but usually the universe somehow makes it work).

I am not wishing any one to die. It is not my stile. I am a human after all.
But personal things are personal so it is better for all to be like this. Sharing such things in public is made on purpose to make you feel bad about it. So is it your problem that someone will eventually die. Because you are his customer? I guess no
But is it Zipkin problem that some of his employes is going to die because of his lies and fake promises
I think yes. So let leave Zipkin to take care of it ann other shit and pressure which is around the corner just because he is the only one to be blamed for it
Ps I missed phin post about Jim so let us hope the guy will be ok and his foot will never cross amt office again

[captin crunch]

Basically everyone gets what he deserves someday....

Iguess that is why you never got your 10 BTC.

[FrictionlessCoin]

Got this e-mail today:


"Hi Steven,

Jim took a leave of absence due to stress and basically coming close to a heart attack the other day.

I'll take over on this one and I'll get back to you a bit later today regarding your orders.

Thanks and all the best to you,

Alyssa".


All my best to Jim, I hope he gets his health back soon.  I am sure he is under a lot of stress lately.

Wow....  I can just imagine... not only do they have upset customers... they've got legal folks and government officials now watching them like a hawk.   I would not want to be in their position.

Do you guy's believe in this shit?
There is no Jim there or if there is one it is not your fault at all
Basically everyone gets what he deserves someday....

No offense....actually I am totally offending, but you are a dick. Phin already actually met Jim and even had a smoke with the guy. So yea this particular bit could easily be the real deal. It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and say the kind of shit you do without really thinking about it. With all the crap coming down on them now this could easily be the case. Not wishing someone dies or get a heart-attack over this.
And at least someone from AMT is handling the order. Wishing someone's death over something like this is just all sorts of fucked up. But then karma is a bitch and it usually rebounds on the person wishing the death (if you believe in Karma but usually the universe somehow makes it work).

Agree with you here.   Loshia is Bulgarian, so its probably in their culture to wish everyone bad luck even though they personally weren't harmed.  I mean,  isn't it rudiculous that this Loshia character keeps bashing AMT even though he isn't even a customer.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Can you point us to any data sheets showing the physical connections to these supplies? I have been searching high and low through Dell, HP and other sites for their server PSU's and none seem to like giving us the output connector/bus-lug layout.

[loshia]

Got this e-mail today:


"Hi Steven,

Jim took a leave of absence due to stress and basically coming close to a heart attack the other day.

I'll take over on this one and I'll get back to you a bit later today regarding your orders.

Thanks and all the best to you,

Alyssa".


All my best to Jim, I hope he gets his health back soon.  I am sure he is under a lot of stress lately.

Wow....  I can just imagine... not only do they have upset customers... they've got legal folks and government officials now watching them like a hawk.   I would not want to be in their position.

Do you guy's believe in this shit?
There is no Jim there or if there is one it is not your fault at all
Basically everyone gets what he deserves someday....

No offense....actually I am totally offending, but you are a dick. Phin already actually met Jim and even had a smoke with the guy. So yea this particular bit could easily be the real deal. It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and say the kind of shit you do without really thinking about it. With all the crap coming down on them now this could easily be the case. Not wishing someone dies or get a heart-attack over this.
And at least someone from AMT is handling the order. Wishing someone's death over something like this is just all sorts of fucked up. But then karma is a bitch and it usually rebounds on the person wishing the death (if you believe in Karma but usually the universe somehow makes it work).

Agree with you here.   Loshia is Bulgarian, so its probably in their culture to wish everyone bad luck even though they personally weren't harmed.  I mean,  isn't it rudiculous that this Loshia character keeps bashing AMT even though he isn't even a customer.

Amt owns me money did you forget about it? And you can read my comment above also

[FrictionlessCoin]

I am not wishing any one to die. It is not my stile. I am a human after all.
But personal things are personal so it is better for all to be like this. Sharing such things in public is made on purpose to make you feel bad about it. So is it your problem that someone will eventually die. Because you are his customer? I guess no
But is it Zipkin problem that some of his employes is going to die because of his lies and fake promises
I think yes. So let leave Zipkin to take care of it ann other shit and pressure which is around the corner just because he is the only one to be blamed for it
Ps I missed phin post about Jim so let us hope the guy will be ok and his foot will never cross amt office again

Personal things?   You aren't even a customer,  what did these folks at AMT do to you?

Why are you even participating in this thread anyway?

[loshia]

Basically everyone gets what he deserves someday....

Iguess that is why you never got your 10 BTC.

I do not care dude

[loshia]

I am not wishing any one to die. It is not my stile. I am a human after all.
But personal things are personal so it is better for all to be like this. Sharing such things in public is made on purpose to make you feel bad about it. So is it your problem that someone will eventually die. Because you are his customer? I guess no
But is it Zipkin problem that some of his employes is going to die because of his lies and fake promises
I think yes. So let leave Zipkin to take care of it ann other shit and pressure which is around the corner just because he is the only one to be blamed for it
Ps I missed phin post about Jim so let us hope the guy will be ok and his foot will never cross amt office again

Personal things?   You aren't even a customer,  what did these folks at AMT do to you?

Why are you even participating in this thread anyway?

I hate lies. Is it so hard to understand?
Go back 200 pages and show me a single posts of mine which is a lie.
Did I say something wrong. No. Did I ever lied? Did I say it it most appropriate way of course no.
Go from the begging of the tread and count amt replies -post and do you best to find a few tha are not lie?
How many you can find?
Face the facts guy's stop taking your purple pils please. This guys are manipulating you from day one!
And start to think it is about time this to happen

[opieum2]

I am not wishing any one to die. It is not my stile. I am a human after all.
But personal things are personal so it is better for all to be like this. Sharing such things in public is made on purpose to make you feel bad about it. So is it your problem that someone will eventually die. Because you are his customer? I guess no
But is it Zipkin problem that some of his employes is going to die because of his lies and fake promises
I think yes. So let leave Zipkin to take care of it ann other shit and pressure which is around the corner just because he is the only one to be blamed for it
Ps I missed phin post about Jim so let us hope the guy will be ok and his foot will never cross amt office again

Personal things?   You aren't even a customer,  what did these folks at AMT do to you?

Why are you even participating in this thread anyway?

I hate lies. Is it so hard to understand?
Go back 200 pages and show me a single posts of mine which is a lie.
Did I say something wrong. No. Did I say it it most appropriate way of course no.
Go from the begging of the tread and count amt replies -post and do you best to find a few tha are not lie?
How many you can find?

Bottom line the question is why are you even here any more? They are delivering to their customers if late. Its not an ideal situation to be in for anyone but they are working to deliver at this point. If your original intent was to point out they are frauds, then you have failed. They are real as a company. They are delivering product even if slowly. I dont want to go stepping up to bat for AMT, as they have mismanaged the situation, BUT hopefully with things as they are now and them apparently hitting rock bottom, they can turn it around and maybe come out of it a better company in the future. For now I think everyone just wants their product and put this whole saga behind them. Having people like you pop in with nothing to contribute AT THIS POINT, just makes this process much harder for everyone. You are not a customer, your use as far as this thread goes to expose them is pretty much done with.  I think EVERYONE here already knows how AMT is. And those of us who are customers mostly just want this situation over with to both ours and AMTs mutual satisfaction. You are just now actually now just saying useless nonsense and wishing death on people. And don't say you didnt because you clearly said everyone gets what they deserve. If you think you didnt maybe you need to check with google translate to see exactly what you are saying and how it is being taken. But I am sure it roughly translate the same way in bulgarian as well. And in case you think you said something else I did the legwork and translated it into bulgarian for you. Bceки пoлyчaвa тoвa, кoeтo зacлyжaвa. That is what you are saying in context. Which pretty much is wishing Jim (or AMT people) to die if you read the previous post as well in context.

[loshia]

I am not wishing any one to die. It is not my stile. I am a human after all.
But personal things are personal so it is better for all to be like this. Sharing such things in public is made on purpose to make you feel bad about it. So is it your problem that someone will eventually die. Because you are his customer? I guess no
But is it Zipkin problem that some of his employes is going to die because of his lies and fake promises
I think yes. So let leave Zipkin to take care of it ann other shit and pressure which is around the corner just because he is the only one to be blamed for it
Ps I missed phin post about Jim so let us hope the guy will be ok and his foot will never cross amt office again

Personal things?   You aren't even a customer,  what did these folks at AMT do to you?

Why are you even participating in this thread anyway?

I hate lies. Is it so hard to understand?
Go back 200 pages and show me a single posts of mine which is a lie.
Did I say something wrong. No. Did I say it it most appropriate way of course no.
Go from the begging of the tread and count amt replies -post and do you best to find a few tha are not lie?
How many you can find?

Bottom line the question is why are you even here any more? They are delivering to their customers if late. Its not an ideal situation to be in for anyone but they are working to deliver at this point. If your original intent was to point out they are frauds, then you have failed. They are real as a company. They are delivering product even if slowly. I dont want to go stepping up to bat for AMT, as they have mismanaged the situation, BUT hopefully with things as they are now and them apparently hitting rock bottom, they can turn it around and maybe come out of it a better company in the future. For now I think everyone just wants their product and put this whole saga behind them. Having people like you pop in with nothing to contribute AT THIS POINT, just makes this process much harder for everyone. You are not a customer, your use as far as this thread goes to expose them is pretty much done with.  I think EVERYONE here already knows how AMT is. And those of us who are customers mostly just want this situation over with to both ours and AMTs mutual satisfaction. You are just now actually now just saying useless nonsense and wishing death on people. And don't say you didnt because you clearly said everyone gets what they deserve. If you think you didnt maybe you need to check with google translate to see exactly what you are saying and how it is being taken. But I am sure it roughly translate the same way in bulgarian as well. And in case you think you said something else I did the legwork and translated it into bulgarian for you. Bceки пoлyчaвa тoвa, кoeтo зacлyжaвa. That is what you are saying in context. Wish pretty much is wishing them to die if you read the previous post as well in context.

That is exactly what I said do not knowing Jim is a real person.
You can use google to translate it if you wish. And I clearly said that I do hope he gets better in most sincere way
However for me some things just do not go buy so I will say again and agin what amt are doing because they will continue to do it in the feature. Someday you can go back 200 pages and found my post staying here
Basically you have two options to get rid of me
1. Ask mods to ban me permanently
2. Use ignore button
3 both one and two

1ps what about your power supplies dude?
I can assure you that I can and will help every one of you te make their famous miner work if that is doable at all

[opieum2]

I am not wishing any one to die. It is not my stile. I am a human after all.
But personal things are personal so it is better for all to be like this. Sharing such things in public is made on purpose to make you feel bad about it. So is it your problem that someone will eventually die. Because you are his customer? I guess no
But is it Zipkin problem that some of his employes is going to die because of his lies and fake promises
I think yes. So let leave Zipkin to take care of it ann other shit and pressure which is around the corner just because he is the only one to be blamed for it
Ps I missed phin post about Jim so let us hope the guy will be ok and his foot will never cross amt office again

Personal things?   You aren't even a customer,  what did these folks at AMT do to you?

Why are you even participating in this thread anyway?

I hate lies. Is it so hard to understand?
Go back 200 pages and show me a single posts of mine which is a lie.
Did I say something wrong. No. Did I say it it most appropriate way of course no.
Go from the begging of the tread and count amt replies -post and do you best to find a few tha are not lie?
How many you can find?

Bottom line the question is why are you even here any more? They are delivering to their customers if late. Its not an ideal situation to be in for anyone but they are working to deliver at this point. If your original intent was to point out they are frauds, then you have failed. They are real as a company. They are delivering product even if slowly. I dont want to go stepping up to bat for AMT, as they have mismanaged the situation, BUT hopefully with things as they are now and them apparently hitting rock bottom, they can turn it around and maybe come out of it a better company in the future. For now I think everyone just wants their product and put this whole saga behind them. Having people like you pop in with nothing to contribute AT THIS POINT, just makes this process much harder for everyone. You are not a customer, your use as far as this thread goes to expose them is pretty much done with.  I think EVERYONE here already knows how AMT is. And those of us who are customers mostly just want this situation over with to both ours and AMTs mutual satisfaction. You are just now actually now just saying useless nonsense and wishing death on people. And don't say you didnt because you clearly said everyone gets what they deserve. If you think you didnt maybe you need to check with google translate to see exactly what you are saying and how it is being taken. But I am sure it roughly translate the same way in bulgarian as well. And in case you think you said something else I did the legwork and translated it into bulgarian for you. Bceки пoлyчaвa тoвa, кoeтo зacлyжaвa. That is what you are saying in context. Wish pretty much is wishing them to die if you read the previous post as well in context.

That is exactly what I said do not knowing Jim is a real person.
You can use google to translate it if you wish. And I clearly said that I do hope he gets better in most sincere way
However for me some things just do not go buy so I will say again and agin what amt are doing because they will continue to do it in the feature. Someday you can go back 200 pages and found my post staying here
Basically you have two options to get rid of me
1. Ask mods to ban me permanently
2. Use ignore button
3 both one and two

1.

Agreed, And I have done both. Likley just remove your posts but I will just put you on ignore. I had you on it until recently. Clearly you are still just as useless as before.

[loshia]

If you are still reading it I said that you have to rewire your homes 200 pages ago. Check your fuses and all that useless stuff
So my useless advise for you is to be prepared for the glorious moment when you miner will arrive.
Because a I said it will not be able to pay for electricity very soon. Do not loose a precious time to reply me dude. Get ready for the arrival

[ISAWHIM]

Remember, if you do use 2 PSU's... you WILL need something on both PSU's to give the PSU a 5v load. Without something on the 5v rail, the 12v rail will not have a reff-voltage to stabilize correctly.

EG, plug an old CD-Drive or Floppy-Drive or any other device into one of the standard MOLEX (four prong "oooo" cables.) For the AMT unit PSU, this would be the raspberrypi as the 5v load. For the other PSU, you will need another device. (Find a nice 5v LED-light display, and you have a cool load to light-up the cards. )

P.S. An external 12v fan, will not work, as it does not use the 5v on the molex connections, though it may have a wire on the plug, it is not actually connected to anything. (It will say 12v on the fans sticker.)

You know if you have power issues, because some boards will run at abnormal speeds. If you turn the unit off, and remove a board, and the remaining boards run normal... or better... then you are running into voltage issues. The PSU is not providing enough AMPs, while it tries to maintain the correct VOLTs. (Thus, the stated above solution, or you need a PSU with more AMPs on the 12v rails, to match the cards draw.)

When buying a PSU, you want to mind the RAILs and the AMPs per rail.

+12v/+12v (2 rails) *may not be split correctly for 5 cards, 2 @ 30a each (great), 3 @ 20a each (starved)
60a/60a

+12v (1 rail) *better for 5 cards, 5 @ 24a each (ok)
120a

NOTE: Without something on the +5v load, you may only have 50-80% of that amperage on the 12v rails. Voltage will actually drop to 10.5v-11.5v once the unit starts running, on the weak rail, in a multi-rail PSU. That, or it will remain 12v, but be lower available amps then expected. Only 30a-45a per rail, in the dual-rail setup mentioned above.

That is just an example. I will know more detail about each cards individual "ideal power consumption", as my unit arrives for testing.