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Regarding this suit. First, we have not been served or sent any documents/legal papers, or formal notices of suit. Currently the plaintiffs legal team, but mostly Mr. Lenell has been calling around trying their hardest (again we believe mostly Craig Lenell) to get any media to publish this and credit this as legitimate, but more over the soul purpose is to notify AMT customers and ask them to get involved on their side, to accumulate the damages in question so hopefully they can win more from us. If enough people join, and the damages are enough to cover the potential winnings, we will be served. If you'd like to join the class, please contact the legal team here: http://www.chimicles.com/There are a few outcomes that will come of this civil lawsuit: 1. The plaintiffs win, and force the company into bankruptcy. 2. The plaintiffs loose, or the case is dismissed fairly quickly. 3. The case is tried for a long time, costing thousands in legal fees on both sides ( which the majority of the class will not contribute to ) by which time everyone's miner will already be delivered. 4. (most probable) Mr. Lenell will annoy and harass the crap out of everyone involved, overstep his welcome and eventually piss people off until they are fed up with him and quit. <- this one we know from experience. Are we worried? Sure we are, we've given our hearts and best efforts to this business. Are we going to drop everything, stop building/shipping miners and dedicate our time to lawyers and this case like Mr. Lenell has. No we wont, its not our style. We have a job to do, and we're going to finish it one way or another, period. We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead. No one believes you anymore. i do! :-P and i even still get rick rolled. |
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Regarding this suit. First, we have not been served or sent any documents/legal papers, or formal notices of suit. Currently the plaintiffs legal team, but mostly Mr. Lenell has been calling around trying their hardest (again we believe mostly Craig Lenell) to get any media to publish this and credit this as legitimate, but more over the soul purpose is to notify AMT customers and ask them to get involved on their side, to accumulate the damages in question so hopefully they can win more from us. If enough people join, and the damages are enough to cover the potential winnings, we will be served. If you'd like to join the class, please contact the legal team here: http://www.chimicles.com/There are a few outcomes that will come of this civil lawsuit: 1. The plaintiffs win, and force the company into bankruptcy. 2. The plaintiffs loose, or the case is dismissed fairly quickly. 3. The case is tried for a long time, costing thousands in legal fees on both sides ( which the majority of the class will not contribute to ) by which time everyone's miner will already be delivered. 4. (most probable) Mr. Lenell will annoy and harass the crap out of everyone involved, overstep his welcome and eventually piss people off until they are fed up with him and quit. <- this one we know from experience. Are we worried? Sure we are, we've given our hearts and best efforts to this business. Are we going to drop everything, stop building/shipping miners and dedicate our time to lawyers and this case like Mr. Lenell has. No we wont, its not our style. We have a job to do, and we're going to finish it one way or another, period. We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead. No one believes you anymore. i do! :-P and i even still get rick rolled. Well, then you sir are an idiot (no offense). What do you have to show for your 6k spent? Please enlighten me. |
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Regarding this suit. First, we have not been served or sent any documents/legal papers, or formal notices of suit. Currently the plaintiffs legal team, but mostly Mr. Lenell has been calling around trying their hardest (again we believe mostly Craig Lenell) to get any media to publish this and credit this as legitimate, but more over the soul purpose is to notify AMT customers and ask them to get involved on their side, to accumulate the damages in question so hopefully they can win more from us. If enough people join, and the damages are enough to cover the potential winnings, we will be served. If you'd like to join the class, please contact the legal team here: http://www.chimicles.com/There are a few outcomes that will come of this civil lawsuit: 1. The plaintiffs win, and force the company into bankruptcy. 2. The plaintiffs loose, or the case is dismissed fairly quickly. 3. The case is tried for a long time, costing thousands in legal fees on both sides ( which the majority of the class will not contribute to ) by which time everyone's miner will already be delivered. 4. (most probable) Mr. Lenell will annoy and harass the crap out of everyone involved, overstep his welcome and eventually piss people off until they are fed up with him and quit. <- this one we know from experience. Are we worried? Sure we are, we've given our hearts and best efforts to this business. Are we going to drop everything, stop building/shipping miners and dedicate our time to lawyers and this case like Mr. Lenell has. No we wont, its not our style. We have a job to do, and we're going to finish it one way or another, period. We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead. No one believes you anymore. i do! :-P and i even still get rick rolled. Well, then you sir are an idiot (no offense). What do you have to show for your 6k spent? Please enlighten me. We shipped his rig yesterday, we're trying to find his tracking number in the moment. |
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Regarding this suit. First, we have not been served or sent any documents/legal papers, or formal notices of suit. Currently the plaintiffs legal team, but mostly Mr. Lenell has been calling around trying their hardest (again we believe mostly Craig Lenell) to get any media to publish this and credit this as legitimate, but more over the soul purpose is to notify AMT customers and ask them to get involved on their side, to accumulate the damages in question so hopefully they can win more from us. If enough people join, and the damages are enough to cover the potential winnings, we will be served. If you'd like to join the class, please contact the legal team here: http://www.chimicles.com/There are a few outcomes that will come of this civil lawsuit: 1. The plaintiffs win, and force the company into bankruptcy. 2. The plaintiffs loose, or the case is dismissed fairly quickly. 3. The case is tried for a long time, costing thousands in legal fees on both sides ( which the majority of the class will not contribute to ) by which time everyone's miner will already be delivered. 4. (most probable) Mr. Lenell will annoy and harass the crap out of everyone involved, overstep his welcome and eventually piss people off until they are fed up with him and quit. <- this one we know from experience. Are we worried? Sure we are, we've given our hearts and best efforts to this business. Are we going to drop everything, stop building/shipping miners and dedicate our time to lawyers and this case like Mr. Lenell has. No we wont, its not our style. We have a job to do, and we're going to finish it one way or another, period. We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead. No one believes you anymore. i do! :-P and i even still get rick rolled. Well, then you sir are an idiot (no offense). What do you have to show for your 6k spent? Please enlighten me. We shipped his rig yesterday, we're trying to find his tracking number in the moment. hazzar! :-D, i am a ventriloquistb and type from a different account. but as of yet iv only got a smile now anyways. and a box in a plane to come through british customs. after that it could be a box or just ashes. rasberry pi wires c4 shaped stuff....... u know how it is lmao |
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Regarding this suit. First, we have not been served or sent any documents/legal papers, or formal notices of suit. Currently the plaintiffs legal team, but mostly Mr. Lenell has been calling around trying their hardest (again we believe mostly Craig Lenell) to get any media to publish this and credit this as legitimate, but more over the soul purpose is to notify AMT customers and ask them to get involved on their side, to accumulate the damages in question so hopefully they can win more from us. If enough people join, and the damages are enough to cover the potential winnings, we will be served. If you'd like to join the class, please contact the legal team here: http://www.chimicles.com/There are a few outcomes that will come of this civil lawsuit: 1. The plaintiffs win, and force the company into bankruptcy. 2. The plaintiffs loose, or the case is dismissed fairly quickly. 3. The case is tried for a long time, costing thousands in legal fees on both sides ( which the majority of the class will not contribute to ) by which time everyone's miner will already be delivered. 4. (most probable) Mr. Lenell will annoy and harass the crap out of everyone involved, overstep his welcome and eventually piss people off until they are fed up with him and quit. <- this one we know from experience. Are we worried? Sure we are, we've given our hearts and best efforts to this business. Are we going to drop everything, stop building/shipping miners and dedicate our time to lawyers and this case like Mr. Lenell has. No we wont, its not our style. We have a job to do, and we're going to finish it one way or another, period. We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead. No one believes you anymore. i do! :-P and i even still get rick rolled. Well, then you sir are an idiot (no offense). What do you have to show for your 6k spent? Please enlighten me. We shipped his rig yesterday, we're trying to find his tracking number in the moment. If you are able to find mine too while you are looking that would be great. Thanks. |
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April 08, 2014, 03:01:21 PM |
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Delivery schedules shall be considered extended by a period of time which AMT deems necessary due to the event circumstances or cause of delay.
Yes they can extend the schedule, but the FTC has clear cut rules for business operating in the US about how they must go about that.
They can't just not ship the miner. If there is a delay it has to be reported to all of the customers. And at that point the customer is able to chose to agree to the delay or decline the delay and ask for full refund.
Thier rules don't supersede federal or state governmental rules or mandates on proper business practices.
I recommend AMT read over the rules they must follow. http://www.business.ftc.gov/documents/bus02-business-guide-mail-and-telephone-order-merchandise-ruleSpecifically this part: If you decide you can ship the order later, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delay.
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Delivery schedules shall be considered extended by a period of time which AMT deems necessary due to the event circumstances or cause of delay.
Yes they can extend the schedule, but the FTC has clear cut rules for business operating in the US about how they must go about that.
They can't just not ship the miner. If there is a delay it has to be reported to all of the customers. And at that point the customer is able to chose to agree to the delay or decline the delay and ask for full refund.
Thier rules don't supersede federal or state governmental rules or mandates on proper business practices.
I recommend AMT read over the rules they must follow. http://www.business.ftc.gov/documents/bus02-business-guide-mail-and-telephone-order-merchandise-ruleSpecifically this part: If you decide you can ship the order later, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delay.
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if the customer chooses not to wait, the customer can cancel the order and obtain a full and prompt refund
And their definition of Prompt refund is in 7 days by us first class mail. I sent them the link directly when I submitted my request for refund. I was never acknowledged on that front. |
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April 08, 2014, 03:11:57 PM |
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We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead.
This sentence doesn't make sense. It might be missing a "not". Or is that where Josh was driving last night? |
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April 08, 2014, 03:27:01 PM |
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We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead.
This sentence doesn't make sense. It might be missing a "not". Or is that where Josh was driving last night? correction "We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best not to go and to go to Toronto instead. |
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April 08, 2014, 03:32:08 PM |
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Regarding this suit. First, we have not been served or sent any documents/legal papers, or formal notices of suit. Currently the plaintiffs legal team, but mostly Mr. Lenell has been calling around trying their hardest (again we believe mostly Craig Lenell) to get any media to publish this and credit this as legitimate, but more over the soul purpose is to notify AMT customers and ask them to get involved on their side, to accumulate the damages in question so hopefully they can win more from us. If enough people join, and the damages are enough to cover the potential winnings, we will be served. If you'd like to join the class, please contact the legal team here: http://www.chimicles.com/There are a few outcomes that will come of this civil lawsuit: 1. The plaintiffs win, and force the company into bankruptcy. 2. The plaintiffs loose, or the case is dismissed fairly quickly. 3. The case is tried for a long time, costing thousands in legal fees on both sides ( which the majority of the class will not contribute to ) by which time everyone's miner will already be delivered. 4. (most probable) Mr. Lenell will annoy and harass the crap out of everyone involved, overstep his welcome and eventually piss people off until they are fed up with him and quit. <- this one we know from experience. Are we worried? Sure we are, we've given our hearts and best efforts to this business. Are we going to drop everything, stop building/shipping miners and dedicate our time to lawyers and this case like Mr. Lenell has. No we wont, its not our style. We have a job to do, and we're going to finish it one way or another, period. We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead. A few points: (1) If the plaintiffs cannot show harm (in otherwords, you properly compensate everyone), then they obviously can't win. (2) AMT will not have the option to declare bankruptcy if they do not deliver to their customers (See the Mt.Gox case: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2138740/judge-orders-mt-goxs-karpeles-to-us-for-questioning.html ) My expectation for AMT is that you deliver what you have promised and be responsive to the inquiries of the customers. That is what every customer expects. |
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April 08, 2014, 03:36:03 PM |
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We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead.
This sentence doesn't make sense. It might be missing a "not". Or is that where Josh was driving last night? correction "We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best not to go and to go to Toronto instead. At this point, AMT needs to prioritize all the delayed orders. No point in demo'ing some future machine if you can't deliver to anyone who purchased back in 2013. I am waiting for the tracking # today. This is what Jim Brown has promised. Please do not screw up the delivery! BTW... if you don't plan on using booth 401, can I take over that booth? |
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April 08, 2014, 03:38:19 PM |
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correction
"We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best not to go and to go to Toronto instead.
There's this new Internet thing called YouTube that you can use to demo your 2.4 in mere seconds. You should try it sometime. Although it might be hard to make a video of something that doesn't actually exist. |
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so mine and reg/mellorbos miner kits have been posted? i hope so
Edit. Thanks amt recieved the fed ex tracking number
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April 08, 2014, 03:40:45 PM |
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Regarding this suit. First, we have not been served or sent any documents/legal papers, or formal notices of suit. Currently the plaintiffs legal team, but mostly Mr. Lenell has been calling around trying their hardest (again we believe mostly Craig Lenell) to get any media to publish this and credit this as legitimate, but more over the soul purpose is to notify AMT customers and ask them to get involved on their side, to accumulate the damages in question so hopefully they can win more from us. If enough people join, and the damages are enough to cover the potential winnings, we will be served. If you'd like to join the class, please contact the legal team here: http://www.chimicles.com/There are a few outcomes that will come of this civil lawsuit: 1. The plaintiffs win, and force the company into bankruptcy. 2. The plaintiffs loose, or the case is dismissed fairly quickly. 3. The case is tried for a long time, costing thousands in legal fees on both sides ( which the majority of the class will not contribute to ) by which time everyone's miner will already be delivered. 4. (most probable) Mr. Lenell will annoy and harass the crap out of everyone involved, overstep his welcome and eventually piss people off until they are fed up with him and quit. <- this one we know from experience. Are we worried? Sure we are, we've given our hearts and best efforts to this business. Are we going to drop everything, stop building/shipping miners and dedicate our time to lawyers and this case like Mr. Lenell has. No we wont, its not our style. We have a job to do, and we're going to finish it one way or another, period. We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead. No one believes you anymore. i do! :-P and i even still get rick rolled. Well, then you sir are an idiot (no offense). What do you have to show for your 6k spent? Please enlighten me. This was an investment in an nonexistent product, sir. Just like many campaigns in Kickstarter, that didn't manage to bring the product to market. You sir are the "idiot" ( no offence) for being greedy (by buying a "money maker") and not being a Man that stands firmly with the choices he made. This was a risky investment, thats it. The Law suit will definitely not bring us our 6k back in the next year or two, For Sure , neither are we gonna get more , only less. If the lawsuit is filed, amt will Not Deliver anything as they will totally give up and declare bankruptcy, cause its The easiest way and we will Get Nothing......... Best option is to have a little faith and stop being a bitch going to mommy (government) to save my greedy ass...... Life is equal for all and its best to be a good, smart and patient person... No Lawsuits! Give them Time , they only ask for that ! File a lawsuit if they Never deliver.... Patience and some balls guys ... |
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April 08, 2014, 03:41:46 PM |
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Regarding this suit. First, we have not been served or sent any documents/legal papers, or formal notices of suit. Currently the plaintiffs legal team, but mostly Mr. Lenell has been calling around trying their hardest (again we believe mostly Craig Lenell) to get any media to publish this and credit this as legitimate, but more over the soul purpose is to notify AMT customers and ask them to get involved on their side, to accumulate the damages in question so hopefully they can win more from us. If enough people join, and the damages are enough to cover the potential winnings, we will be served. If you'd like to join the class, please contact the legal team here: http://www.chimicles.com/There are a few outcomes that will come of this civil lawsuit: 1. The plaintiffs win, and force the company into bankruptcy. 2. The plaintiffs loose, or the case is dismissed fairly quickly. 3. The case is tried for a long time, costing thousands in legal fees on both sides ( which the majority of the class will not contribute to ) by which time everyone's miner will already be delivered. 4. (most probable) Mr. Lenell will annoy and harass the crap out of everyone involved, overstep his welcome and eventually piss people off until they are fed up with him and quit. <- this one we know from experience. Are we worried? Sure we are, we've given our hearts and best efforts to this business. Are we going to drop everything, stop building/shipping miners and dedicate our time to lawyers and this case like Mr. Lenell has. No we wont, its not our style. We have a job to do, and we're going to finish it one way or another, period. We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead. You broke my hart Joshua  Do not give up guys you have lost your money already. The only thing to fight for is justice and your dignity! |
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April 08, 2014, 03:45:34 PM |
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We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead.
This sentence doesn't make sense. It might be missing a "not". Or is that where Josh was driving last night? correction "We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best not to go and to go to Toronto instead.AMT_miner,I understand you guys attend TORONTO BITCOIN EXPO April 11-13, Please bring me my 2 miners to Toronto,I'm in Toronto. I would like to pick up from EXPO. I supposed receive beginning of January,checked my email one #962 got transferred from Carols,Jim promised 2 times but never happened,let me know if this works out for you. |
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AMT order #645 and #962, where is my refund?
totally amount is US(645#for $ 5155+#962 for $6089)= US$11244
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April 08, 2014, 03:46:06 PM |
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We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead.
This sentence doesn't make sense. It might be missing a "not". Or is that where Josh was driving last night? correction "We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best not to go and to go to Toronto instead. Problem with firman permit |
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April 08, 2014, 03:49:44 PM |
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We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead.
This sentence doesn't make sense. It might be missing a "not". Or is that where Josh was driving last night? correction "We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best not to go and to go to Toronto instead. Thanks for the correction. I thought that was what you meant but was not sure. Also thank you for the more regular updates. Being in the manufacturing business myself (I am one of those CNC guys you spoke of in a previous post) I can sympathize with your situation to some extent. It has been my experience that communication is key to a positive outcome. How is the new back plane checking out by the way? Is it looking like it will solve some of the issues you have been dealing with? |
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We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best to go to Toronto instead.
This sentence doesn't make sense. It might be missing a "not". Or is that where Josh was driving last night? correction "We were due to be on the expo today, booth 401, we were going to demo our 2.4's, but in light of this news we felt its best not to go and to go to Toronto instead. Thanks for the correction. I thought that was what you meant but was not sure. Also thank you for the more regular updates. Being in the manufacturing business myself (I am one of those CNC guys you spoke of in a previous post) I can sympathize with your situation to some extent. It has been my experience that communication is key to a positive outcome. How is the new back plane checking out by the way? Is it looking like it will solve some of the issues you have been dealing with? this is a point i hope i recieved a rev 2 back plane and not a fud one |
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Amt you call this your best effort? That's sad. Still hunting for a tracking number, great organization, or are you just waiting to actually ship something before you have it....
I really hope you take your lawyers advice, at first you say because of the lawsuit you are going to offer refunds, then you say there is no lawsuit. Give refunds to people who ask, just do it. People don't want excuses and they don't care that you suck at math, business, life, etc. People feel bad for other people that get screwed, not the companies that screw them.
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