🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[TopTort777]

With just several days, Makhachev fight turned from awaited into mismatch. If Green is bad at wrestling or grappling, that this fight will end quickly. He is only blue belt in BJJ. He has only experienced wrestling in high school. I think that is not enough to stop a guy who has been in wrestling since diapers. But lets not only focus on Green disadvantages. Green has a huge will to win. Lots of his fights have ended with decision. He has fuel for full distance.

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[YuginKadoya]

Another fight that I have been waiting for the UFC Fight Night: Makhachev VS Green

Islam Makhachev VS Bobby Green - In my opinion, this might be a hard fight for Makchachev but we can surely see it on the weigh-in if Bobby Green can maintain a weight that is for the lightweight division but I am just speculating, but for me, I am going with Islam Makhachev in this fight, Makhachev is expected to fight Beneil Dariush that is rank 3 but replaced by Bobby Green, I am expecting a great fight this weekend,

Other fights that I am looking at in this event are the Co-main Misha Cirkunov VS, Wellington Turman, Ji Yeon Kim VS Priscila Cachoeira, Terrance McKinney VS Fares Ziam and Jinh Frey VS, Hannah Goldy, will surely post my picks for these fights soon, for now, I will gather information and news on these fighters.

[Hydrogen]

Johnny Walker turned out to be an even bigger fade than I thought.

Johnny Walker began his UFC career with his coach from brazil. Then he left his old coach and trained at tristar in canada. Now Johnny Walker trains at SBG Ireland with John Kavanagh. Each place Johnny Walker trained in changed the way he fights. SBG Ireland doesn't have a good win / loss record in the UFC which could lead most to fade Johnny Walker. I think Walker's athleticism has improved since joining SBG Ireland but is it enough?

SBG Ireland head coach, John Kavanagh comes across as one of those who has a healthy appreciation for science. Unfortunately, they do not appear to know how to apply it. His responses have indicated this for many years.

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Next main event: Islam Makhachev vs Bobby Green.

Green's counter wrestling and takedown defense is very good. Bobby Green outwrestled Jacob Volkmann in the UFC back in 2013. Volkmann having excellent wrestling credentials on paper. No one was shooting on Bobby Green after that.

It takes time to train the cardio needed to go 5 rounds. Green taking the fight on short notice, and having trained for a 3 round fight previously, could mean his gas tank won't be fully prepared to go 5 rounds. The fight being made at 160 pounds could help with this. But TBH its a grey area.

[tokeweed]

^  Yeah I feel like Makhachev could make it look really easy.  I wonder that lines are gonna be for Makhachev win R1 and R2.  I think anything above 3.00 is value imho.  Same with the under 2.5 rounds, I feel like anything over pickem odds is good.  All in all it’s another chalky event.

And yup, Walker is kek these says.  There was a time everybody thought he was going to be this top prospect who could beat Jon Jones at the time.

[YuginKadoya]

SBG Ireland head coach, John Kavanagh comes across as one of those who has a healthy appreciation for science. Unfortunately, they do not appear to know how to apply it. His responses have indicated this for many years.

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Next main event: Islam Makhachev vs Bobby Green.

Green's counter wrestling and takedown defense is very good. Bobby Green outwrestled Jacob Volkmann in the UFC back in 2013. Volkmann having excellent wrestling credentials on paper. No one was shooting on Bobby Green after that.

It takes time to train the cardio needed to go 5 rounds. Green taking the fight on short notice, and having trained for a 3 round fight previously, could mean his gas tank won't be fully prepared to go 5 rounds. The fight being made at 160 pounds could help with this. But TBH its a grey area.

I'd say Bobby Green is one great dude, and a humble person, in my opinion, he wrestled Jacob Volkmann back in 2013 and that is Bobby Green's debut in the UFC, Well we can say that Bobby Green can sure wrestle, but he's not winning with wrestling right now, it is all in Decision and 1 TKO and comparing his fight to Rashid Magomedov a Dagestan Combat Sambo champion runner-up to an Islam Makhachev Combat Sambo Russian National champion 4 times, I really think he will not stand a chance against Makhachev if he lost to Rashid Magomedov, and Bobby Green lost to Edson Barboza, Dustin Poirier, Thiago Moisés, and Rafael Fiziev which I think Makhachev will beat easily.

^  Yeah I feel like Makhachev could make it look really easy.  I wonder that lines are gonna be for Makhachev win R1 and R2.  I think anything above 3.00 is value imho.  Same with the under 2.5 rounds, I feel like anything over pickem odds is good.  All in all it’s another chalky event.

And yup, Walker is kek these says.  There was a time everybody thought he was going to be this top prospect who could beat Jon Jones at the time.

The fight was against Beneil Dariush, but instead, we get Bobby Green, but respect to Bobby Green, because just like you I think this could be an easy fight for Islam Makachev that is a 4 times Combat Sambo Russian National champion, and Bobby Green was beaten by Rashid Magomedov that is a runner-up on the Combat Sambo Champion,

Johnny Walker needs to be free from the clutches of his trainers, or coaches, he is not the same Walker that I have seen back then, I think he needs to be himself.

[TheNineClub]

^  Walker isn’t as good as he was hyped to be imho.  And obv, everybody could see that gets KO’d easy.  The guy ain’t got no chin.  He was KO’d by Corey Anderson who isn’t really known for knocking people out.

Yup, right on the money. He was definitely overhyped in a division that had slim pickings, so it was more of him being in the right place at the right time to get all of that attention than anything else.  We mostly get that in divisions that had a sudden power vacuum when both Jones and Gustafson exited. This has fastly become one of the least interesting divisions. Even HW has more going for it these days.

[Welsh]

Jamahal Hill
Parker Porter
Jonathan Pearce
Chas Skelly
Kyle Daukaus
Mario Bautista
Chad Anheliger
Jessica Rose Clark (Decision)
Diana Belbita (Decision)
Abdul Razak Alhassam
Onama

Abdul is my underdog of the night, an absolute warrior, and I expect him to at least make it difficult in the cage. Where as my most confident picks will be Jamahal Hill, Kyle Daukaus, Mario Bautista, and Clark to win. I don't tend to take much consideration on how people look in the weigh ins, so that didn't hold any weight in most of my predictions.

I had another pretty good night considering I was expecting a lot of the fights to be hard fought for. The ladies on the card let me down, as well as Alhassam, although Alhassam was definitely close to finishing that fight if he just could've put more pressure on with the ground, and pound in the dying seconds of the third round.

From memory I think I got 8/9 correct there. The unfortunate thing is, the football matches I had on the accumulator also came in, so I would have been looking at one hell of a profit if those three fights came in. Also had some of the favourites from this weeks card to bring it up to a 14 fold accumulator. I'm getting really damn close recently.

[notblox1]

I didn't expect this outcome in first round, but it seems hype is real about Jamahal Hill and he is going up on rankings in light-heavyweight division very soon.
I remember how people were excited about Johnny Walker after he come from Dana Whiote Contender Series, than he continued with three wins in UFC, but he is falling down since than.
Maybe next fight for Jamahal Hill could be Magomed Ankalaev, but this will obstacle will be much harder to pass

[cabron]

I didn't expect this outcome in first round, but it seems hype is real about Jamahal Hill and he is going up on rankings in light-heavyweight division very soon.
I remember how people were excited about Johnny Walker after he come from Dana Whiote Contender Series, than he continued with three wins in UFC, but he is falling down since than.
Maybe next fight for Jamahal Hill could be Magomed Ankalaev, but this will obstacle will be much harder to pass

Johnny is playing it simple like he doesn't have a fightplan. I was expecting him to do some takedowns because Hill may have that weakness but instead just doing his regular kicks that can easily be blocked by a boxer.

Hill is going to be matched to  Magomed Ankalaev who has that fightplan in every fight. This is Nurmagomedov protege, this is where it gets rocky for Hill for it will be a ground-pounding fight.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Once upon a time people thought Walker could defeat Jon Jones today proves its just not the case. Its heck of a fall for him. Its a one punch knockout. I think his legs will dance on its own if he had gotten up quickly. It'd be more embarassing. Jahamal saved him from that by throwing another hit on the ground. Lost some of my bets but sure made big win thanks to Hill.

That might be a bit of a illogical statement, if you look at the fight experience between Jahamal and Walker. Its obvious to me that this might have been a one-time, lucky win. Jahamal Hill's reaction to the "amazing knockout" on the UFC post show really just goes to show that he himself was quite surprised about the event. He was not really expecting it himself. Although, Hill's 10-1 wins/losses are nothing to scoff at.

Maybe Walker just had a bad day or got unlucky, who knows? These things happen in any sport, especially a close contact one like boxxing. Maybe its just me as a Walker fan who has the wrong notions but I still see it as a lucky fluke.

Lets see how Hill does in his next fight.

In this case, athletes go through different stages that affect them psychologically, sometimes the state of mind can determine if a fighter is fit or not for a fight, according to this it may be that if he is somewhat low in spirit, sad or worried greatly affects the moment of fighting, of course a knockout is not far from the possibility of happening, for now I would expect more fights from him, not all are good days, the truth is that the knockout was impressive.

[TopTort777]

In this case, athletes go through different stages that affect them psychologically, sometimes the state of mind can determine if a fighter is fit or not for a fight, according to this it may be that if he is somewhat low in spirit, sad or worried greatly affects the moment of fighting, of course a knockout is not far from the possibility of happening, for now I would expect more fights from him, not all are good days, the truth is that the knockout was impressive.

How can Tony Ferguson still fights then? He has been mentally unstable since 2019. Since then he had 4 fights and bean eating hundred of strikes with head. According to his life and training style, there has been something with his head perhaps for 10 years already.

What do you guy think about UFC even that will happen in several days? The card looks weak frankly speaking. Despite Makhachev, other fighters are new to me. Well, I've heard Misha Cirkunov, but he is just average, and according to his record, he will be kicked from UFC in case he looses. Comparing last time Makhachev fought (Petr Yan vs Sandhagen, Teixeira became new champ), this event does not look like an event of his level.

[goldkingcoiner]

Once upon a time people thought Walker could defeat Jon Jones today proves its just not the case. Its heck of a fall for him. Its a one punch knockout. I think his legs will dance on its own if he had gotten up quickly. It'd be more embarassing. Jahamal saved him from that by throwing another hit on the ground. Lost some of my bets but sure made big win thanks to Hill.

That might be a bit of a illogical statement, if you look at the fight experience between Jahamal and Walker. Its obvious to me that this might have been a one-time, lucky win. Jahamal Hill's reaction to the "amazing knockout" on the UFC post show really just goes to show that he himself was quite surprised about the event. He was not really expecting it himself. Although, Hill's 10-1 wins/losses are nothing to scoff at.

Maybe Walker just had a bad day or got unlucky, who knows? These things happen in any sport, especially a close contact one like boxxing. Maybe its just me as a Walker fan who has the wrong notions but I still see it as a lucky fluke.

Lets see how Hill does in his next fight.

In this case, athletes go through different stages that affect them psychologically, sometimes the state of mind can determine if a fighter is fit or not for a fight, according to this it may be that if he is somewhat low in spirit, sad or worried greatly affects the moment of fighting, of course a knockout is not far from the possibility of happening, for now I would expect more fights from him, not all are good days, the truth is that the knockout was impressive.

Oh you are completely and utterly correct in your assumption that the knockout was impressive. You very rarely get to witness a knockout that beautiful. Knockouts themselves are quite rare, even with the most professional boxxers with years of training behind their belt. And Jahamal Hill is far from a boxxing legend with astonishing experience, which in itself, makes the knockout even more impressive.

As far as psychological evaluation goes in boxing? Its really more like a questionaire that nobody bothers to check. Or at least it seems that way to me.

[tokeweed]

^  Yeah I feel like Makhachev could make it look really easy.  I wonder that lines are gonna be for Makhachev win R1 and R2.  I think anything above 3.00 is value imho.  Same with the under 2.5 rounds, I feel like anything over pickem odds is good.  All in all it’s another chalky event.

And yup, Walker is kek these says.  There was a time everybody thought he was going to be this top prospect who could beat Jon Jones at the time.

The fight was against Beneil Dariush, but instead, we get Bobby Green, but respect to Bobby Green, because just like you I think this could be an easy fight for Islam Makachev that is a 4 times Combat Sambo Russian National champion, and Bobby Green was beaten by Rashid Magomedov that is a runner-up on the Combat Sambo Champion,

Johnny Walker needs to be free from the clutches of his trainers, or coaches, he is not the same Walker that I have seen back then, I think he needs to be himself.

Dunno..  I still think Makhachev gets an easy win, kinda like how he fought and won vs Dan Hooker.

Anyway I’m still sad Makhachev‘s not fighting Dariush.  Winning vs Dariush would clinch him a title shot.  I’m not sure if he’ll be given a title shot after winning vs Green. 

^  Walker isn’t as good as he was hyped to be imho.  And obv, everybody could see that gets KO’d easy.  The guy ain’t got no chin.  He was KO’d by Corey Anderson who isn’t really known for knocking people out.

Yup, right on the money. He was definitely overhyped in a division that had slim pickings, so it was more of him being in the right place at the right time to get all of that attention than anything else.  We mostly get that in divisions that had a sudden power vacuum when both Jones and Gustafson exited. This has fastly become one of the least interesting divisions. Even HW has more going for it these days.

It actually has become more interesting with 4 prospects on the rise and the belt held by somebody who wouldn’t be champ for long I don’t think. 

I didn't expect this outcome in first round, but it seems hype is real about Jamahal Hill and he is going up on rankings in light-heavyweight division very soon.
I remember how people were excited about Johnny Walker after he come from Dana Whiote Contender Series, than he continued with three wins in UFC, but he is falling down since than.
Maybe next fight for Jamahal Hill could be Magomed Ankalaev, but this will obstacle will be much harder to pass

Nooo.  It’s too early for those guys to go at it.  Match them up with the likes of Blachowicz, Anthony Smith and Thiago Santos to keep the weight class a little more interesting. 

[TopTort777]

Dunno..  I still think Makhachev gets an easy win, kinda like how he fought and won vs Dan Hooker.

Have you seen odds ? There is a small chance we see Nunes vs Pena outcome

At first I also though that this is going to be an easy fight for Makhachev. He is a wrestler, Green is an universal fighter, and as soon as Makhachev takes Green to the ground it will be over. But lets look on what can Green put against Islam. He has a nice and quick jab. He has great stamina, or iron chin, or good wrestling skills. As his all fights are 3*5min long. What else - his intention to fight. A lot of his fights ended with decision. It is hard to break him mentally. He is like Ferguson that just don't surrender. I just found out that his fight against Guida, Vannata, Patrick and Moises were on short notice. And he has won 3 of them.

Not to mention that he has ball to accept this fight against top4 on a short notice. He is not like other, who run from Makhachev just to save their fighting record. I've just watches some reviews of him, at I've got an impression that he never steps in the octagon just to get a cheque.

[tokeweed]

^  Yeah maybe I’m wrong and maybe Bobby Green could make the match closer than how the bookies lined it but a better comparison for Makachev is the Nunes of old when she was still rising in the ranks and still staking her claim in the UFC.  And Makhachev could be something special...  Kinda like Khabib was. 

...  Maybe if I hadn’t lost in the last couple of events I’d make a small bet on Green.  But no, I promised myself no more leaks.  Lol.  My most confident underdog bet would be Alvarez.  The line went from 3.35 to 2.80.

[TopTort777]

No-no, dont bet on Green. He will lose anyway  that want simply be a subday walk for Makhachev. I think Green would struggle more than Hooker. 

I am disappointed with Makhachev not fighting Dariush. If Makhachev wins, his next fight could be a title fight against Oliveira. But now, we would have to wait for half a year for next fight and probably would see a title fight only next year. Respect to Makhachev for accepting Green as an opponent. He could have cancelled this fight, as he might lose and risk missing a spot in title race, and let Green get top5 place.

[TheNineClub]

I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.

[Welsh]

I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.

Would be a smart move for promoting the organisation, especially as it would be Khabib's 30th fight, in fact I might actually be a little cheeky here, and say this was planned from the start. Nah, of course we know the reasons why Khabib retired like he did, a lot of us think it was a little too early for a fighter his age, and calibre, but he had legitimate reasons to do so.

I'd definitely tune in to see Khabib back in action though, although he wins that grappling match.

[bbc.reporter]

I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.

Who is GSB? Did you mean to type GSP? Yes this will certainly help Eagle FC in marketing and promotion of the organization and also help them increase their fans. However, if Khabib wants to grow his business much more quickly he should offer Conor to be a shareholder in his company as payment to be a fighter for Eagle FC hehehe. This is will be a master level business move by Khabib if Conor agrees.

[TopTort777]

I think relationship between Conor and Khabib are so bad, that even if they were stuck alone on an island, no one would share last drop of fresh water to save other. Still, when someone post something positive about Khabib and somehow tag Conor, he immediately replies.

If Khabib organizes a grappling or exhibition match against GSP, will GSP give him a proper competition? His last fight was in 2017, after a 4 year pause. While Khabib trains with Makhachev and other, GSP trains to be fit.