Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[coinism]

Today last day of first test match, and we have nothing special just few peoples waiting for Imam can do second century in his second inning because due to very slow wicket we have only 14 outs in five days, and it's very poor from current test cricket standard they require some better and supportive wickets for next matches which help Pakistani batsmen for better preparation for Australia and England tours as well.

Its a historic day for PCB and cricket in Pakistan that Australia is completing its first test today at Rawalpindi, it took 24 years for Aussies to return back to Pakistan. For Pakistan its a win-win situation, first they are going to draw a match against worlds best test team and secondly its a revival of international cricket in Pakistan.
Good chance for Abdullah Shafique to score its maiden test hundred and that too against Australia.

[pakhitheboss]

West Indies VS England

England tour of WI starts today, they will be playing 3 test matches. England is a much better team than the WI side but WI has the advantage here they have not lost against England at home in the test since 2004. Spinners will play a crucial role in this test. The team that wins the toss I think will try to bat first.

[UmerIdrees]

Well this test match is an easy easy draw now. We dont see these kind of matches these days as test matches dont even do go to 5th day. As we saw india vs srilanka, india winning within 3 days. And this test match not even 2 innings finished and 4 days are gone. I think I could have last for 2 more days. The pitch is really dead having nothing for the bowlers.

It is good to see Pakistan being competitive against the big-4 nations (helped by the pitch in a big way). But at the same time, teams like Sri Lanka are proving again and again that they are incapable of doing so. I don't really understand the point in allowing Sri Lanka to play test matches against a team like India. The gap is too big, to have a meaningful competition. And after the retirement of star players like Muralitharan, Jayasuriya, Malinga and Sangakkara, Sri Lanka is struggling even against weak teams like Scotland and Oman.

As per the ICC test ranking, Pakistan is positioned at 6th and Srilanka is at 7th. Both teams at the moment are playing the top 2 teams in test matches. Meanwhile, Srilanka is getting destroyed by India and Pakistan is giving a hard time to Australia. Srilankan cricket has deteriorated gravely after those legends retired. The board need to find talents as soon as possible otherwise they will fall below zimbabwe in the test ranking list and eventually fade away as test playing nation.

Forget about the ICC ranting, Pakistan team is nowhere near the SriLankan team. We have the ability to even against Australians and other top teams. You can see the current performance of Pakistan against Australia and see it for yourself.

The boring test match is coming to an end in a few hours. Pakistan will bat rest of the innings but what if Pakistan declare after scoring few more runs and give Australians a target of 200 runs in 20 overs  

[coinism]

Forget about the ICC ranting, Pakistan team is nowhere near the SriLankan team. We have the ability to even against Australians and other top teams. You can see the current performance of Pakistan against Australia and see it for yourself.

The boring test match is coming to an end in a few hours. Pakistan will bat rest of the innings but what if Pakistan declare after scoring few more runs and give Australians a target of 200 runs in 20 overs  

Pakistan must not and will no do this silly mistake of giving Australia a target of 200 to chase in 20 overs, Aussies loves to take on such adventures. Right now my interest is only in seeing Abdullah Shafique scoring his first test hundred, he is not out on 82 runs. Imam is also looking to score his second century of the test, he has performed well to get rid of nepotism tag placed on him.

[Juggy777]

Forget about the ICC ranting, Pakistan team is nowhere near the SriLankan team. We have the ability to even against Australians and other top teams. You can see the current performance of Pakistan against Australia and see it for yourself.

The boring test match is coming to an end in a few hours. Pakistan will bat rest of the innings but what if Pakistan declare after scoring few more runs and give Australians a target of 200 runs in 20 overs  

Pakistan must not and will no do this silly mistake of giving Australia a target of 200 to chase in 20 overs, Aussies loves to take on such adventures. Right now my interest is only in seeing Abdullah Shafique scoring his first test hundred, he is not out on 82 runs. Imam is also looking to score his second century of the test, he has performed well to get rid of nepotism tag placed on him.

@UmerIdrees it’ll really be exciting if Pakistan declare now and throw the challenge for Australia to chase and win it, because I feel that Australia will not take the bait and will play out for a draw. @coinism normally Australia would love to chase it, but on this track I highly doubt that they’ll go for the chase, because they’ll know that they’ll end up losing wickets quickly and probably the match too if they try too hard to chase down the target.

[UmerIdrees]

Forget about the ICC ranting, Pakistan team is nowhere near the SriLankan team. We have the ability to even against Australians and other top teams. You can see the current performance of Pakistan against Australia and see it for yourself.

The boring test match is coming to an end in a few hours. Pakistan will bat rest of the innings but what if Pakistan declare after scoring few more runs and give Australians a target of 200 runs in 20 overs  

Pakistan must not and will no do this silly mistake of giving Australia a target of 200 to chase in 20 overs, Aussies loves to take on such adventures. Right now my interest is only in seeing Abdullah Shafique scoring his first test hundred, he is not out on 82 runs. Imam is also looking to score his second century of the test, he has performed well to get rid of nepotism tag placed on him.

@UmerIdrees it’ll really be exciting if Pakistan declare now and throw the challenge for Australia to chase and win it, because I feel that Australia will not take the bait and will play out for a draw. @coinism normally Australia would love to chase it, but on this track I highly doubt that they’ll go for the chase, because they’ll know that they’ll end up losing wickets quickly and probably the match too if they try too hard to chase down the target.

Just trying to find a way to keep myself and others interested in this match.

Look like Pakistani not gonna declare the innings. Now Abdullah Shafique has made 100 runs and the total is also 200+ runs without any wicket loss. Now lets break some records for the highest first wicket partnership in test matches. What is the first target if anyone knows?

[JohnBitCo]

Forget about the ICC ranting, Pakistan team is nowhere near the SriLankan team. We have the ability to even against Australians and other top teams. You can see the current performance of Pakistan against Australia and see it for yourself.

The boring test match is coming to an end in a few hours. Pakistan will bat rest of the innings but what if Pakistan declare after scoring few more runs and give Australians a target of 200 runs in 20 overs  

Pakistan must not and will no do this silly mistake of giving Australia a target of 200 to chase in 20 overs, Aussies loves to take on such adventures. Right now my interest is only in seeing Abdullah Shafique scoring his first test hundred, he is not out on 82 runs. Imam is also looking to score his second century of the test, he has performed well to get rid of nepotism tag placed on him.

@UmerIdrees it’ll really be exciting if Pakistan declare now and throw the challenge for Australia to chase and win it, because I feel that Australia will not take the bait and will play out for a draw. @coinism normally Australia would love to chase it, but on this track I highly doubt that they’ll go for the chase, because they’ll know that they’ll end up losing wickets quickly and probably the match too if they try too hard to chase down the target.

Just trying to find a way to keep myself and others interested in this match.

Look like Pakistani not gonna declare the innings. Now Abdullah Shafique has made 100 runs and the total is also 200+ runs without any wicket loss. Now lets break some records for the highest first wicket partnership in test matches. What is the first target if anyone knows?

The highest first-wicket partnership in any test match is between GC smith and Mckenzie back in 2008. It's impossible to break this record however every score they put on, they are going to move up in this list.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283611.html

[JSRAW]

As per the ICC test ranking, Pakistan is positioned at 6th and Srilanka is at 7th. Both teams at the moment are playing the top 2 teams in test matches. Meanwhile, Srilanka is getting destroyed by India and Pakistan is giving a hard time to Australia. Srilankan cricket has deteriorated gravely after those legends retired. The board need to find talents as soon as possible otherwise they will fall below zimbabwe in the test ranking list and eventually fade away as test playing nation.

In current Sri Lankan team's defence, i would say we shouldn't blame them much. They have never won a single test match on Indian soil, yup that's right even likes of Vass, Murli, Sanga, Jayawardene, Desilva, JayaSurya, Ranatunga etc failed to win a single test when playing in India.

Pindi's curator fucked up big time, de-merit and poor rating is about to come very soon from the ICC. I would be very surprise if it doesn't happen.

[og kush420]

Most probably we may see this test match ending in a draw. I know this statement looks pre-mature as we have seen only the first day of this first test match. I think that if the pakistan team played so well and managed to lose only one wicket on the first day against the best australian bowling attack, this shows the pitch is very good for batting and its hard to take 40 wickets in 5 days and therefore i would bet on a draw.

In fact, even win probability score states there is a 47% chance of a draw in this test match. Babar Azam remarked that the pitch would be good for scoring runs, after PAK chose to bat first. Pakistan's openers are batting well so far. In this batting-friendly pitch, the Australian bowling attack appears quite faded, with Nathan Lyon the only bowler to take a wicket.

If Pakistan managed to draw this test match, then I am sure it will be a good for Pakistan. Australians are considered as a better test team (of course they are big 3  ). A draw for a big 3 is an insult for themselves. The so called "world best bowling attack" is only able to take only 2 wickets in 1.5 days. That's a shame for Australians and those who are afraid to play with Pakistan (India, NZ, England).

I think its too early to say that and to predict anything. Pakistan is a good team and so is Australia. I think they are scared playing in Pakistan like the NZ who ran away before the start of the series. I have heard something had happened in Peshawar too. Are all the links going to the tour of Aussie team? Pakistani people love cricket but then all their joys are settled in a jiffy when something bad happens in the country. I wish to see an amazing cricket and great sportsman spirit among both the teams.

Don't use the excuse of scariness for the bad performance of the Australians bowling. They are provided with the highest level of security in Paksitan. They have been given the same security protocol which is given to the prime minister of Pakistan.

The question now is when should Pakistan declare the innings? 500 or even more ? We need enough time to bowl them out in the next three days.

@umerIdrees - I have the same concern, seems like you are the right person to ask this. Why did NZ team ran away before the start of the series, I read it on internet that Pakistan PM, who himself is a cricketer went to the field himself and assured them that everything is fine even he spoke to NZ PM but they refused to play and went back. I have heard the same rumors in Aussie case, but seem like they are a bit daring to take the stand.

[repear7]

No England player is currently playing well, especially in Tests. They lost the series to Australia. He is going to lose the test again with windis. Allready England's 4 valuable wickets have been out. Now there are 2 more batsmen, they end when they are out. I think they can both bring the game under their control.

[Mahdirakib]

England tour of WI starts today, they will be playing 3 test matches. England is a much better team than the WI side but WI has the advantage here they have not lost against England at home in the test since 2004. Spinners will play a crucial role in this test. The team that wins the toss I think will try to bat first.

England has won the toss and elected to bat first. But they are struggling now. England has already lost their first 4 wickets before the lunch break. They need a long partnership now to get back in the match. The fast bowler of West Indies has done a great job. Still I'm not going to keep the Windies team ahead. This is just the start of the game.

[galambo]

England has won the toss and elected to bat first. But they are struggling now. England has already lost their first 4 wickets before the lunch break. They need a long partnership now to get back in the match. The fast bowler of West Indies has done a great job. Still I'm not going to keep the Windies team ahead. This is just the start of the game.

Ben Stokes and Bairstow have taken over the responsibility and have partnership of over 50 runs. Root the main batsmen for England gone for just 13 runs. England are too much dependent on Root and there is strong need that rest of top order batting should score some runs to reduce pressure on Root.

[Swordsoffreedom]

England vs West Indies

England are not in a good position in the first Test against the West Indies. Even in today's match, their top order batsmen have failed. In the previous Test series, they could not win any of the 5 matches against Australia. The top order batsmen did not play well against the West Indies either. Collecting less than 300 runs will be difficult to win the match. At the moment he has collected 176 runs losing 5 wickets.

[lixer]

England vs West Indies

England are not in a good position in the first Test against the West Indies. Even in today's match, their top order batsmen have failed. In the previous Test series, they could not win any of the 5 matches against Australia. The top order batsmen did not play well against the West Indies either. Collecting less than 300 runs will be difficult to win the match. At the moment he has collected 176 runs losing 5 wickets.

Start was not good for England in first session of first test they lost 4 wickets very cheaply but now have very good recovery through Stokes, Bairstow and Foakes from 48/4 to now 223/6 is very good now they can feel some better Bairstow is still on crease with his very quick and important 89 with new batsman Woakes is going to give him company but still it's good for West Indies as they have early wickets very cheaply and their quick bowlers take some good advantage of early seem, but now England is back in match even they still need some more runs from Bairstow and Woakes, but they can feel comfortable after having early setbacks.

Roach and Seales were on fire for home team with their very good bowling, and they have done good start, but now both teams are on level and the match is going to be very entertaining for next few days.

[jostorres]

England tour of WI starts today, they will be playing 3 test matches. England is a much better team than the WI side but WI has the advantage here they have not lost against England at home in the test since 2004. Spinners will play a crucial role in this test. The team that wins the toss I think will try to bat first.

England has won the toss and elected to bat first. But they are struggling now. England has already lost their first 4 wickets before the lunch break. They need a long partnership now to get back in the match. The fast bowler of West Indies has done a great job. Still I'm not going to keep the Windies team ahead. This is just the start of the game.

After winning toss and elected bats first was good decision, but first hour play completely belong to home side with they have done good damage to England 48 runs and 4 wickets, but after these visitors have very good recovery through Bairstow who done his second consecutive century after having at SCG Australia and bring his team back in competition Stokes and Floakes also give some support but Bairstow single handily playing very vital role and now have very good 40 runs partnership with Woakes who is at 13 giving good support to his partner just seven overs remaining in today's play with any first inning score above 300+ is surely going very good for England.

[7788bitcoin]

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Roach and Seales were on fire for home team with their very good bowling, and they have done good start, but now both teams are on level and the match is going to be very entertaining for next few days.

England once again proved that they are not good in putting a team for Test matches as they were struggling to get going and if not for the middle order recovery the situation would have been pathetic. Jonny Bairstow once again came to the rescue and they have all the big names in paper but they are not performing consistently and yet they are able to find players that could replace them.

[romero121]

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Roach and Seales were on fire for home team with their very good bowling, and they have done good start, but now both teams are on level and the match is going to be very entertaining for next few days.

England once again proved that they are not good in putting a team for Test matches as they were struggling to get going and if not for the middle order recovery the situation would have been pathetic. Jonny Bairstow once again came to the rescue and they have all the big names in paper but they are not performing consistently and yet they are able to find players that could replace them.

Even after the bad start England have managed to score 250+ runs by the end of day 1 is good. Someone taking responsibility and doing the best to withstand the situation, and today it looks like Baristow the rescuer. Somehow England will manage to score 300+ runs which is quite good for an innings. If England perform well in bowling surely it can restrict West Indies within 250 runs. Then the match can turn towards England.

[UmerIdrees]

@umerIdrees - I have the same concern, seems like you are the right person to ask this. Why did NZ team ran away before the start of the series, I read it on internet that Pakistan PM, who himself is a cricketer went to the field himself and assured them that everything is fine even he spoke to NZ PM but they refused to play and went back. I have heard the same rumors in Aussie case, but seem like they are a bit daring to take the stand.

Well NZ team received some suspicious email that they will be attacked if they play the series in Pakistan. They decided to fly back. It was their own decision or it was influenced by BCCI, the details are not public.
It's their stance and will that they opted for what they think was best for them but they didn't know what was coming afterward. Later everyone told them that they did wrong.

Pakistan got more strong with their verdict and we gave a clear statement that if any country wants to play with us, they need to come and play here. Best security will be granted and  No neutral grounds will be accepted. If Australians had refused this tour, we would not have gone next year to their country.

Lesson:- Be strong, be a lion and the world will respect you.

[Sithara007]

Even after the bad start England have managed to score 250+ runs by the end of day 1 is good. Someone taking responsibility and doing the best to withstand the situation, and today it looks like Baristow the rescuer. Somehow England will manage to score 300+ runs which is quite good for an innings. If England perform well in bowling surely it can restrict West Indies within 250 runs. Then the match can turn towards England.

West Indies bowlers allowed the match to slip out of their control. Only Jason Holder was consistent, while Alzarri Joseph, Kemar Roach and Jayden Seales bowled in a wayward manner and allowed Jonny Bairstow to build big partnerships with lower order batsmen such as Ben Foakes and Chris Woakes. And England still have Craig Overton and Mark Wood to come, and these two have some batting capability. I guess it is possible for England to get to a total of around 300-350. It will be interesting to see the performance from the England bowlers, in the absence of Anderson and Broad.

[JSRAW]

MCC made some changes in cricketing code of laws.

Important changes
- Permanent ban on Saliva.
- In case of catch dismissals, new batter have to take strike and face the bowler even if previous striker-non striker cross the halfway mark of the pitch, unless it's the last ball.
- Mankading was considered unfair play under previous law, although it was allowed. Now they moved it to another section (under runout) and made it clear that its a non-striker's fault because he's the one stealing the ground. No more spirit of the game BS and no dehumanizing the bowler.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/mcc-moves-to-de-stigmatise-non-striker-run-outs-in-latest-law-updates-1304409