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April 01, 2022, 10:25:49 AM
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South Africa - Bangladesh

South Africa lost three wickets at the start of the second day. At the moment their collection is 298 runs, losing 7 wickets. Bangladeshi bowlers are dominating the first session of the second day. There are no experienced batsmen in the crease now. Bangladeshi bowlers have a good chance to take all the wickets of South Africa within 330. If South Africa's innings ends between 320/330 runs, then Bangladesh will be able to fight well and the match will be competitive and enjoyable.

South Africa lost their seventh wicket for 298 runs and lost one more wicket before adding any runs to the scoreboard. Simon Hermer and Lizaad Williams are now at the crease. They don't seem to bat well for a long. South Africa scored 314 runs. And they will probably finish their innings before 340. If Bangladesh batsmen can bat well, South Africa will not be able to win this match. But I don't trust Bangladeshi batsmen.

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April 01, 2022, 10:46:24 AM
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South Africa lost their seventh wicket for 298 runs and lost one more wicket before adding any runs to the scoreboard. Simon Hermer and Lizaad Williams are now at the crease. They don't seem to bat well for a long. South Africa scored 314 runs. And they will probably finish their innings before 340. If Bangladesh batsmen can bat well, South Africa will not be able to win this match. But I don't trust Bangladeshi batsmen.

Well we can't predict result of test match based on first innings batting. South Africa right now have scored 314 runs and only 2 wickets left. 300 is quite a decent score and Bangladesh need to play well to level this score or take lead. Temba Bavuma is the man whose 93 helped South Africa to cross 300.
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April 01, 2022, 01:29:08 PM
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Didn't watch a single ball so don't know how pitch is behaving but if this pitch also has similar characteristic as other South African pitches then i guess Proteas already has enough runs on the board. Only problem with Protea atm is their bowling lineup. We shouldn't forget that their premier bowlers are not available for this series due to EVIL_IPL.

Bangladesh should exploit Protea's bowling weakness with the bat, if they want to see some sort of success.

Bongs are going to Miss Tamim and Shakib for sure.

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April 01, 2022, 01:56:15 PM
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South Africa - Bangladesh

South Africa lost three wickets at the start of the second day. At the moment their collection is 298 runs, losing 7 wickets. Bangladeshi bowlers are dominating the first session of the second day. There are no experienced batsmen in the crease now. Bangladeshi bowlers have a good chance to take all the wickets of South Africa within 330. If South Africa's innings ends between 320/330 runs, then Bangladesh will be able to fight well and the match will be competitive and enjoyable.

South Africa lost their seventh wicket for 298 runs and lost one more wicket before adding any runs to the scoreboard. Simon Hermer and Lizaad Williams are now at the crease. They don't seem to bat well for a long. South Africa scored 314 runs. And they will probably finish their innings before 340. If Bangladesh batsmen can bat well, South Africa will not be able to win this match. But I don't trust Bangladeshi batsmen.

Bangladesh did lose early wickets but I really believe they will be able to get a good amount of runs because they have a lot of batting to come. I know that test cricket is not the strongest format for Bangladesh but I think they are getting better at this format day by day.  Right now the score is 62 runs at the loss of one wicket.
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April 01, 2022, 03:11:28 PM
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Didn't watch a single ball so don't know how pitch is behaving but if this pitch also has similar characteristic as other South African pitches then i guess Proteas already has enough runs on the board. Only problem with Protea atm is their bowling lineup. We shouldn't forget that their premier bowlers are not available for this series due to EVIL_IPL.

Bangladesh should exploit Protea's bowling weakness with the bat, if they want to see some sort of success.

Bongs are going to Miss Tamim and Shakib for sure.

Though South Africa's bowling is weak, Bangladesh's squad has few experienced players for the Test format. And so even if South Africa's bowling lineup is weak, it is not certain whether Bangladesh will be able to play well.
Bangladesh has already lost 3 wickets, their collection is only 94. If Mushfiqur and Miraj can't play well today, then maybe bangladesh will finish their innings before 200 runs. We have seen poor batting of Bangladesh many times in the past.

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April 01, 2022, 04:49:31 PM
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Didn't watch a single ball so don't know how pitch is behaving but if this pitch also has similar characteristic as other South African pitches then i guess Proteas already has enough runs on the board. Only problem with Protea atm is their bowling lineup. We shouldn't forget that their premier bowlers are not available for this series due to EVIL_IPL.

Bangladesh should exploit Protea's bowling weakness with the bat, if they want to see some sort of success.

Bongs are going to Miss Tamim and Shakib for sure.
Though South Africa's bowling is weak, Bangladesh's squad has few experienced players for the Test format. And so even if South Africa's bowling lineup is weak, it is not certain whether Bangladesh will be able to play well.
Bangladesh has already lost 3 wickets, their collection is only 94. If Mushfiqur and Miraj can't play well today, then maybe bangladesh will finish their innings before 200 runs. We have seen poor batting of Bangladesh many times in the past.

At the end of the second day, Bangladesh collected only 98 runs. But they lost 4 wickets. I expected some more responsible batting. Bangladesh is still behind by 269 runs. Maybe Liton, Miraz and Joy will play well. If they can build a good partnership, Bangladesh will be able to collect 300 runs. Otherwise, Bangladesh will lose all their wickets in the first session tomorrow.

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April 01, 2022, 05:42:23 PM
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Didn't watch a single ball so don't know how pitch is behaving but if this pitch also has similar characteristic as other South African pitches then i guess Proteas already has enough runs on the board. Only problem with Protea atm is their bowling lineup. We shouldn't forget that their premier bowlers are not available for this series due to EVIL_IPL.

Bangladesh should exploit Protea's bowling weakness with the bat, if they want to see some sort of success.

Bongs are going to Miss Tamim and Shakib for sure.

Why EVIL_IPL mate ? You are an Indian and must be proud of the fact that foreigners are leaving national fixtures to attend a league in your country? If South Africa board and players don't care of losing to team like Bangladesh then why blaming ipl for that?
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April 01, 2022, 05:55:54 PM
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Didn't watch a single ball so don't know how pitch is behaving but if this pitch also has similar characteristic as other South African pitches then i guess Proteas already has enough runs on the board. Only problem with Protea atm is their bowling lineup. We shouldn't forget that their premier bowlers are not available for this series due to EVIL_IPL.

Bangladesh should exploit Protea's bowling weakness with the bat, if they want to see some sort of success.

Bongs are going to Miss Tamim and Shakib for sure.

Why EVIL_IPL mate ? You are an Indian and must be proud of the fact that foreigners are leaving national fixtures to attend a league in your country? If South Africa board and players don't care of losing to team like Bangladesh then why blaming ipl for that?
This Evil_IPL was sarcasm.

Having said that as cricket fan i really beilieve that no player should abandon their national duties for any franchise cricket, even if its IPL. At the same time cricket board should think about contracted players too. They shouldn't offer peanuts to players and then complain about they are ignoring the national duties.

Just to give you 1 example.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/bangladesh-tour-of-sa-money-matters-south-africas-preference-for-the-ipl-isnt-a-question-of-allegiance-1306087

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April 01, 2022, 07:01:51 PM
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Didn't watch a single ball so don't know how pitch is behaving but if this pitch also has similar characteristic as other South African pitches then i guess Proteas already has enough runs on the board. Only problem with Protea atm is their bowling lineup. We shouldn't forget that their premier bowlers are not available for this series due to EVIL_IPL.
Bangladesh should exploit Protea's bowling weakness with the bat, if they want to see some sort of success.
Bongs are going to Miss Tamim and Shakib for sure.
Though South Africa's bowling is weak, Bangladesh's squad has few experienced players for the Test format. And so even if South Africa's bowling lineup is weak, it is not certain whether Bangladesh will be able to play well.
Bangladesh has already lost 3 wickets, their collection is only 94. If Mushfiqur and Miraj can't play well today, then maybe bangladesh will finish their innings before 200 runs. We have seen poor batting of Bangladesh many times in the past.
At the end of the second day, Bangladesh collected only 98 runs. But they lost 4 wickets. I expected some more responsible batting. Bangladesh is still behind by 269 runs. Maybe Liton, Miraz and Joy will play well. If they can build a good partnership, Bangladesh will be able to collect 300 runs. Otherwise, Bangladesh will lose all their wickets in the first session tomorrow.

Now it seems to me that Bangladesh's victory or defeat depends entirely on tomorrow's first session. If Bangladesh can finish the first session tomorrow without losing any wicket, they will be able to collect more than 300 runs easily. This will increase the chances of the match being drawn. And if Bangladesh starts losing wickets in the first session then I think they will lose all the wickets before 200 runs. However, talented players like Miraz and Liton are not out yet.

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April 01, 2022, 11:15:28 PM
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Didn't watch a single ball so don't know how pitch is behaving but if this pitch also has similar characteristic as other South African pitches then i guess Proteas already has enough runs on the board. Only problem with Protea atm is their bowling lineup. We shouldn't forget that their premier bowlers are not available for this series due to EVIL_IPL.
Bangladesh should exploit Protea's bowling weakness with the bat, if they want to see some sort of success.
Bongs are going to Miss Tamim and Shakib for sure.
Though South Africa's bowling is weak, Bangladesh's squad has few experienced players for the Test format. And so even if South Africa's bowling lineup is weak, it is not certain whether Bangladesh will be able to play well.
Bangladesh has already lost 3 wickets, their collection is only 94. If Mushfiqur and Miraj can't play well today, then maybe bangladesh will finish their innings before 200 runs. We have seen poor batting of Bangladesh many times in the past.
At the end of the second day, Bangladesh collected only 98 runs. But they lost 4 wickets. I expected some more responsible batting. Bangladesh is still behind by 269 runs. Maybe Liton, Miraz and Joy will play well. If they can build a good partnership, Bangladesh will be able to collect 300 runs. Otherwise, Bangladesh will lose all their wickets in the first session tomorrow.

Now it seems to me that Bangladesh's victory or defeat depends entirely on tomorrow's first session. If Bangladesh can finish the first session tomorrow without losing any wicket, they will be able to collect more than 300 runs easily. This will increase the chances of the match being drawn. And if Bangladesh starts losing wickets in the first session then I think they will lose all the wickets before 200 runs. However, talented players like Miraz and Liton are not out yet.
Already Bangladesh have lost 4 wickets. So, reaching 300 runs is a big thing. Even if there is no wicket fall during the morning session Bangladesh won't reach 300 runs. If it was in Bangladesh ground it could've happened. The game is being played in South African pitch where SA players have the advantage. Anyhow Bangladesh is improving with time, and lets wait and see.

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April 02, 2022, 06:21:11 AM
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This Evil_IPL was sarcasm.

Having said that as cricket fan i really beilieve that no player should abandon their national duties for any franchise cricket, even if its IPL. At the same time cricket board should think about contracted players too. They shouldn't offer peanuts to players and then complain about they are ignoring the national duties.

Just to give you 1 example.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/bangladesh-tour-of-sa-money-matters-south-africas-preference-for-the-ipl-isnt-a-question-of-allegiance-1306087

Sir, as per my understanding its the board who releases his player for IPL and without board NOC you can't play IPL. IPL not only pays the player but also board a handsome money to release its player's. In the end its a win win situation for everyone in terms of financial gain at the expense of national cause. Same SA board refuses to spare its players for PSL earlier this year since not much money is being payed so national duty first.

"No PSL NOC for South Africa's contracted players
CSA wants players to prioritise immediate international and domestic commitments

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/no-psl-noc-for-south-africa-s-contracted-players-1296018"
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April 02, 2022, 09:49:09 AM
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South Africa- Bangladesh

Due to Mahmudul Hasan Joy's responsible batting, Bangladesh team is still batting very well in their first innings. Bangladesh lost 5 wickets and collected 167 runs. Joy scored 70 runs off 219 balls. Experienced Liton Das is still at the crease. He is collecting 35 runs from 73 balls. My guess is that this pair will not break before collecting 200 runs. Both are playing well enough.

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April 02, 2022, 09:49:43 AM
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Already Bangladesh have lost 4 wickets. So, reaching 300 runs is a big thing. Even if there is no wicket fall during the morning session Bangladesh won't reach 300 runs. If it was in Bangladesh ground it could've happened. The game is being played in South African pitch where SA players have the advantage. Anyhow Bangladesh is improving with time, and lets wait and see.

Mahmudul Hasan Joy the Bangladeshi opener is still on crease, he is not out on 74 runs and Bangladesh is totally dependent on him. Bangladesh right now are 200 runs behind and they have 5 wickets left. If SA can take a lead of 100 in first innings, things will be very much in favour of SA.
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April 02, 2022, 10:08:49 AM
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South Africa- Bangladesh

Due to Mahmudul Hasan Joy's responsible batting, Bangladesh team is still batting very well in their first innings. Bangladesh lost 5 wickets and collected 167 runs. Joy scored 70 runs off 219 balls. Experienced Liton Das is still at the crease. He is collecting 35 runs from 73 balls. My guess is that this pair will not break before collecting 200 runs. Both are playing well enough.

You are right. Probably will not break this pair before 200 runs. They are batting very responsibly. Very experienced playing style. Liton Das has done well for Bangladesh in the last few Tests. If he can do the same in today's match then South Africa will not be able to win this match. Mehdi Hasan Miraj is a very experienced player to bat next. So it seems Bangladesh will not finish their innings before 300.

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South Africa- Bangladesh

Due to Mahmudul Hasan Joy's responsible batting, Bangladesh team is still batting very well in their first innings. Bangladesh lost 5 wickets and collected 167 runs. Joy scored 70 runs off 219 balls. Experienced Liton Das is still at the crease. He is collecting 35 runs from 73 balls. My guess is that this pair will not break before collecting 200 runs. Both are playing well enough.

You are right. Probably will not break this pair before 200 runs. They are batting very responsibly. Very experienced playing style. Liton Das has done well for Bangladesh in the last few Tests. If he can do the same in today's match then South Africa will not be able to win this match. Mehdi Hasan Miraj is a very experienced player to bat next. So it seems Bangladesh will not finish their innings before 300.
Day three started with a good session for Bangladesh. Mahmudul Hasan and Litton Das have been unbroken for 82 runs before the launch break. In the aftermath of a series of quick wickets, Bangladesh is now back in a good rhythm, and this is greatly needed for them. Muhammadul Hasan has a hundred loading, 20 runs more to go! Bangladesh won't give up hope until both players bat at the same time. Liton Das has a good chance of scoring a century too.
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April 02, 2022, 04:56:49 PM
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You are right. Probably will not break this pair before 200 runs. They are batting very responsibly. Very experienced playing style. Liton Das has done well for Bangladesh in the last few Tests. If he can do the same in today's match then South Africa will not be able to win this match. Mehdi Hasan Miraj is a very experienced player to bat next. So it seems Bangladesh will not finish their innings before 300.
Liton Das didn't play as it was expected. But inexperienced openers, Mahmudul Hasan Joy played a great innings. He has scored 137 runs. Bangladesh has scored 298 runs in their first innings. They could have taken a lead if the experienced players Mominul and Mushfiqur contributed with their batting performance. Anyway, South Africa started with a lead of 69 runs. Day 3 has ended, maybe this match is heading towards a draw.

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April 02, 2022, 05:21:17 PM
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South Africa- Bangladesh

Due to Mahmudul Hasan Joy's responsible batting, Bangladesh team is still batting very well in their first innings. Bangladesh lost 5 wickets and collected 167 runs. Joy scored 70 runs off 219 balls. Experienced Liton Das is still at the crease. He is collecting 35 runs from 73 balls. My guess is that this pair will not break before collecting 200 runs. Both are playing well enough.
You are right. Probably will not break this pair before 200 runs. They are batting very responsibly. Very experienced playing style. Liton Das has done well for Bangladesh in the last few Tests. If he can do the same in today's match then South Africa will not be able to win this match. Mehdi Hasan Miraj is a very experienced player to bat next. So it seems Bangladesh will not finish their innings before 300.
Day three started with a good session for Bangladesh. Mahmudul Hasan and Litton Das have been unbroken for 82 runs before the launch break. In the aftermath of a series of quick wickets, Bangladesh is now back in a good rhythm, and this is greatly needed for them. Muhammadul Hasan has a hundred loading, 20 runs more to go! Bangladesh won't give up hope until both players bat at the same time. Liton Das has a good chance of scoring a century too.

Bangladesh finished their innings with 298 runs. I'm not saying they played badly. Their performance was enough. After losing 5 wickets for 101 runs, Joy, Liton Das and Miraj's responsible batting helped Bangladesh to collect 298 runs.
The three days are already over, and South Africa has just started their innings. If South Africa bats all day tomorrow, the match is most likely to be a draw.

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April 02, 2022, 07:13:03 PM
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This Evil_IPL was sarcasm.

Having said that as cricket fan i really beilieve that no player should abandon their national duties for any franchise cricket, even if its IPL. At the same time cricket board should think about contracted players too. They shouldn't offer peanuts to players and then complain about they are ignoring the national duties.

Just to give you 1 example.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/bangladesh-tour-of-sa-money-matters-south-africas-preference-for-the-ipl-isnt-a-question-of-allegiance-1306087

Sir, as per my understanding its the board who releases his player for IPL and without board NOC you can't play IPL. IPL not only pays the player but also board a handsome money to release its player's. In the end its a win win situation for everyone in terms of financial gain at the expense of national cause. Same SA board refuses to spare its players for PSL earlier this year since not much money is being payed so national duty first.

"No PSL NOC for South Africa's contracted players
CSA wants players to prioritise immediate international and domestic commitments

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/no-psl-noc-for-south-africa-s-contracted-players-1296018"
Yes, that's right and BCCI-CSA also have understanding or i guess some sort of contract that they will not stop their players.

Now coming back to the link i've posted. There is a context behind this article and my "evil_ipl" statement.

Before the Bangladesh series, Protea's skipper Dean Elgar made a statement about "Loyalties of Players, who play in the IPL" and then few South African's journalists came up with different argument by pointing out sorry state of national contract.

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April 02, 2022, 11:36:37 PM
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Yes, that's right and BCCI-CSA also have understanding or i guess some sort of contract that they will not stop their players.

Now coming back to the link i've posted. There is a context behind this article and my "evil_ipl" statement.

Before the Bangladesh series, Protea's skipper Dean Elgar made a statement about "Loyalties of Players, who play in the IPL" and then few South African's journalists came up with different argument by pointing out sorry state of national contract.
I doubt whether there is any understanding between BCCI and the South African Cricket board like you think. The sole reason they are not stopping the players is because if they put pressure on the players on not to participate in the IPL, then they need to give them a much bigger salary which they are not able to or risk the player announcing the retirement from International Cricket, i guess the later is true.

If the boards restrict the players from participating in the IPL, then they will announce their retirement and focus solely on franchise cricket as they can make a much bigger earning than their national contract and the prime example is AB de Villiers.
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I doubt whether there is any understanding between BCCI and the South African Cricket board like you think. The sole reason they are not stopping the players is because if they put pressure on the players on not to participate in the IPL, then they need to give them a much bigger salary which they are not able to or risk the player announcing the retirement from International Cricket, i guess the later is true.

If the boards restrict the players from participating in the IPL, then they will announce their retirement and focus solely on franchise cricket as they can make a much bigger earning than their national contract and the prime example is AB de Villiers.

IPL not only pays the player but also board for releasing the players for IPL. For the first time CA stopped its players from participating in IPL 2022 because of ongoing Pakistan tour. Small boards like South Africa are happy to sacrifice players for IPL for the financial gains. South Africa first time on its soil lost to Bangladesh since its players are in IPL.
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