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Author Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.  (Read 734893 times)
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January 13, 2015, 10:49:18 AM
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January 13, 2015, 06:22:03 PM
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10 bus passengers killed by insurgent artillery strike in Donetsk region

 Multiple civilian fatalities in militant attack near Volnovakha



https://www.facebook.com/Vyacheslav.Abroskin

At about 14:30 on 13 January artillery fire from Kremlin-backed insurgents in east Ukraine struck a civilian bus killing 10 passengers, according to Donetsk district police chief Vyacheslav Abroskin.

"Insurgents based in Dokuchaevo shelled a Ukrainian position in Volnovakha and struck a civilian bus. At the moment we have information about 10 fatalities and 13 wounded."

The conflict in east Ukraine has already claimed almost 5,000 lives, with approximately 1,400 fatalities since a nominal ceasefire was introduced in September 2014.  

UPDATE: Information posted to a 'Novorossiya' social media page this afternoon confirmed that insurgent forces had launched an attack on a Ukrainian checkpoint at exactly the time and place where the civilian bus was struck. As news of the civilian deaths emerged, the post was edited to remove confirmation of the insurgent attack.

The original post read:

Breaking news: 13.01.2015, 16:53 (NB: insurgents operate on Moscow time, meaning that this post appeared at 14:53 Ukrainian time)

Volnovakha

Information received: Ukrainian checkpoint destroyed at the exit of Volnovakha in the direction of Donetsk



UPDATE 2: The Ukrainian Prosecutor General's office has stated that insurgents fired 40 Grad rockets in the 13 January east Ukraine attack which resulted in the death of ten civilians on a passenger bus. Officials confirmed that the attack was being treated as an 'act of terror'.

 

UPDATE 3: Donetsk Administration reports 18 wounded. One of them has already arrived in Mariupol for treatment. Previously there was an information about 13 wounded as a result of terrorist attack.





http://uatoday.tv/news/10-bus-passengers-killed-by-insurgent-artillery-strike-in-donetsk-region-402496.html

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January 13, 2015, 11:11:06 PM
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January 13, 2015, 11:12:26 PM
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The shelling of an intercity passenger bus by Russian terrorists near the town of Volnovakha in the Donetsk Oblast "cannot be considered anything other than an act of terrorism," said Konstantyn Yeliseyev, Ukraine's representative to the European Union. As a result of the shelling, 11 passengers died and 13 were injured.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/01/13/ukraine-calls-for-firm-eu-response-to-the-volnovakha-bus-shelling/

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January 14, 2015, 01:26:27 AM
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Yeah Pagan, black is a little what shall I say, too ominous for a postman. Light blue or something along those lines would seem to be more appropriate.



naw to American and weak

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January 14, 2015, 01:53:02 AM
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Yeah Pagan, black is a little what shall I say, too ominous for a postman. Light blue or something along those lines would seem to be more appropriate.



naw to American and weak


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January 14, 2015, 06:20:29 PM
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I actually think it's time to resurrect the old name of UKraine- "Little  Russia"- in order to bring back some class.

Little Russia or "Littlerus" will be far more elegant, the admiration of the world for Russia in fighting the bankrupt WEstern clowns will rub off if bankrupt Ukraine uses the word "rus" , or for more classier effect- use the whole world "Russia" itself.

Suggestions as new names of Ukraine:
LittleRus or Little Russia
PoorRus
Bankruptrus
Bwahaharus
I like the last one best  Cheesy


There is no call to resort to petty mocking. Yes, Ukraine is an artificial state, comprised of Novorossia, Malorossia, Galicia ad several territories, nabbed from Romania, Hungary, Chechia. What you refer to is Malorossia (the better translation for it is Russia Minor) and it is the central part of Ukraine:



The famous and much-liked in Russia author Taras Shevchenko was a Maloross.



Back to the topic and the sad state of affairs.

It looks like Ukro-Nazis started the war in earnest, using the same scenario that NATO-backed Horvats used when they genocided 250000 Serbs from the Serbian Kraina. Note that the shelling is intensifying a couple of days after Soros visited Kiev. Suddenly there is a bombing of a bus in Kiev, that is so conveniently being used as an excuse to start new round of mobilisation and an aggression against Novorossia. Another false flag.

In the meantime, Ukro-Nazis shelled Donetsk and suburbs 82 times over the last 24 hours, resulting in murder of 5 civilians and wounding 15 more.

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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January 14, 2015, 06:58:42 PM
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It is not possible to educate the West on the truth about the murders happening in Eastern Ukraine!
CNN, FOX and even Obama's press secretary continues to blame Russia for people they kill!
Obama wants to separate Russia from Europe!
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January 14, 2015, 07:45:15 PM
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Twitter hashtag #JeSuisDonbass

https://twitter.com/hashtag/JeSuisDonbass?src=hash

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January 14, 2015, 10:59:05 PM
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This should echo!



Bus in Donetsk region hit by rocket fragments - OSCE report
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/771260

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Twelve people were killed and 17 wounded when a rocket exploded close to a bus near the city of Volnovakha on January 13

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January 15, 2015, 11:26:32 AM
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The following article is a must-read in its entirety! It's not only about France, it's about a holistic view on the combustable situation in Europe and it actually predicts the current step-up in shellings of Donbass.

https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/12/urgent-secret-link-between-french-false-flag-attacks-and-ukraine

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Honest Europeans don’t want war and animosity. It’s natural for people to want to live in peace and cooperation. As Europe again starts doubting the wisdom of sanctions and of alienating Russia, THE NEW REMINDER is necessary. Enter #CharlieHebdo massacre and other French false flags.

It is clear to me that #Poroshenko’s real goal in Paris was to meet with Hollande and Merkel in order to obtain EU’s green light for the massive new attack on Donbass, to begin around mid-January. As of the beginning of January 2015, based on the mood of their people, it appeared that EU leaders wouldn’t easily acquiesce to this new attack, nor would the EU people close their eyes to it. That mood was changed by the French false flags. The French false flag game changer was especially necessary in order to convince Hollande, who was wavering the most based on the feelings of his electorate.

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Those readers who wrote to me that diplomacy is dead, think again. If not for Putin and Lavrov’s diplomacy last year, the world may have been tipped into the hot war already. Think of diplomacy as a way of resolving any crisis with much less blood and much cheaper than without it.

The worst case scenario will be avoided yet again. However, the festering wound that is Ukraine will remain until the people there are awakened sufficiently and until they take their power back. Unfortunately, this won’t happen for another year or two – at different times in each part of Ukraine. See Predictions for more.

The uprising leading to change has to mature internally. There is no other way. The people have started rising in key cities, such as Odessa, Zaporozhie, and especially, Kharkov. The Kharkov underground has made an announcement that they would be beginning an active stage this year, but that they also want to avoid the bloodshed and mistakes of Donbass. The new mass mobilization and plans to squash Donbass are undoubtedly related to this announcement and the most recent Odessa explosions.


Oh, and some "politicians" in Kiev now say that they should drop nukes on Donbass to "solve" the problem, they are already declaring millions of men, women, children, elderly, veterans of WWII there as terrorists.

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January 15, 2015, 11:57:31 AM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Novorossia-Novorossiya-New-Russia-flag-New-Batch/121506576765?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27673%26meid%3D2c7a5fbbdca94dfb82581a34f7e0a2e4%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D121491470687
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January 15, 2015, 05:15:58 PM
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It´s a cutting off the nose to spite the face thing. If anything, the meltdown has accelerated after the Russia sanctions.

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January 15, 2015, 05:41:52 PM
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The shelling of an intercity passenger bus by Russian terrorists near the town of Volnovakha in the Donetsk Oblast "cannot be considered anything other than an act of terrorism," said Konstantyn Yeliseyev, Ukraine's representative to the European Union. As a result of the shelling, 11 passengers died and 13 were injured.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/01/13/ukraine-calls-for-firm-eu-response-to-the-volnovakha-bus-shelling/

I remember Nato shelling a passenger bus in the former Yugoslavia killing nearly sixty passengers (the exact number is unknown due to complete destruction of the vehicle). According to NATO officials, all the massacre had been “an accident that occurred randomly in order to prevent the supply of Serbian military and police forces that operated inside Kosovo"... Undecided


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Rizla2345, the main aim of those sanctions was to bring European economy over the brink of collapse. Note how each time EU tried to backpedal on sanctions, there came a new false flag (with threads leading to Washington), which stalled any sensible movement in Europe.

https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/keiser-report-siberian-camembert-ft-ben-aris/

The last of those false flags:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKy-lQbTDGA#t=52



Russian supplies restore 150 schools and hospitals in Ukraine’s east
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/771380

OSCE representatives in Ukraine come under fire in Donetsk — deputy mission head
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/771439



About that bus near Volnovakha, from the preliminary investigation, it looks like it detonated an anti-personell shrapnel mine, that were placed around checkpoints by the Nazional Guard.

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January 15, 2015, 07:11:06 PM
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Nemo, it´s certainly very convenient. Cui Bono?

January 5th, Hollande talks for lifting the sanctions at once, 48 hours later this attack.

And wasn´t he also talking about "not attacking Lybia alone". What was that about? Didn´t NATO already bomb the hell out of the place and kill and maim thousands to secure freedom and democracy?

But perhaps the oil isn´t so secure after all.
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January 15, 2015, 07:32:04 PM
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Nemo, it´s certainly very convenient. Cui Bono?

January 5th, Hollande talks for lifting the sanctions at once, 48 hours later this attack.

And wasn´t he also talking about "not attacking Lybia alone". What was that about? Didn´t NATO already bomb the hell out of the place and kill and maim thousands to secure freedom and democracy?

But perhaps the oil isn´t so secure after all.

Securing oil is surely not what the puppet masters need. What they need is controlled chaos that allows to manipulate oil prices (besides other things) more easily both up and down as they see appropriate for the moment being... Cool

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January 15, 2015, 10:06:03 PM
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Today's update:
- Two wounded children from Donetsk were delivered to Moscow using a plane of Russian Emergency Ministry.
- One coal mine in DNR was bombed and damaged
- Donetsk Republican Army took control of Donetsk airport, letting the Ukrainian soldiers go as a gesture of good will. In response the airport was shelled from Uragan systems, leading to OCSE observers, who wanted to inspect the airport to run for their lives.
- 5 railway cars with coal were sent to Harkov free of charge along the railway tracks that were repaired by DNR (these tracks were damaged in several places by Ukro-nazi bombings) as a test delivery to demonstrate Donetsk's free will and the feasibility of deliveries. Yatsenjuk was blaming people of Donetsk as not willing to provide coal.

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Last edit: January 16, 2015, 01:25:27 AM by Rizla2345
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That has to hurt

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"Lenders had 131 billion zloty ($35 billion) of Swiss-franc mortgages on their books as of the end of November, 46 percent of total home loans".

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-15/polish-banks-zloty-slump-as-swiss-franc-mortgages-get-expensive.html

Maybe Uncle Sam will help and return old favors

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"All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labor, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral color when it is committed by 'our' side . . . The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them."

~ George Orwell, Notes on Nationalism
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