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May 23, 2014, 04:14:37 PM |
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Where can I find the setup guide? Is there a guide for overclocking as well?
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May 23, 2014, 05:59:17 PM |
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May 23, 2014, 07:07:18 PM |
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APC offers units that bring up to 14.4kW using a single branch whip. Yes, if you get one with enough power as i read it, there are different versions available. However, why do you want a PDU? Most DCs offer remotely managed outlets for little additional monthly cost, or it is included in the lease of the rackspace. You do understand that this won´t provide any backup power (if this is what you are looking for) and most power conditioning features are already performed by the high performance server PSUs built into sp30. It already has over current / under current, surge ... protection... If the build quality will be the same as sp10, and there is no reason to doubt that, you won´t need to do any remote hard-resets and usually DC staff can perform this if needed.
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May 23, 2014, 07:11:44 PM |
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APC offers units that bring up to 14.4kW using a single branch whip. Yes, if you get one with enough power as i read it, there are different versions available. However, why do you want a PDU? Most DCs offer remotely managed outlets for little additional monthly cost, or it is included in the lease of the rackspace. You do understand that this won´t provide any backup power (if this is what you are looking for) and most power conditioning features are already performed by the high performance server PSUs built into sp30. It already has over current / under current, surge ... protection... If the build quality will be the same as sp10, and there is no reason to doubt that, you won´t need to do any remote hard-resets and usually DC staff can perform this if needed. They're installing this PDU for my rack and I want to make sure it can handle the machines. Thanks for your answer.
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May 23, 2014, 07:15:54 PM |
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DC staff is normally very helpful, you can always ask how much power they will be able to provide to your rack.
For two sp30, calculate a power usage of 6kw to be on the safe side.
I very much doubt they would install a PDU with too little power if you tell them, you need X Kw.
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May 23, 2014, 07:35:05 PM |
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DC staff is normally very helpful, you can always ask how much power they will be able to provide to your rack.
For two sp30, calculate a power usage of 6kw to be on the safe side.
I very much doubt they would install a PDU with too little power if you tell them, you need X Kw.
They've been very helpful so far. How many SP10 / SP30s are you hosting in a DC?
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May 23, 2014, 07:44:21 PM |
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I am only hosting one in a local DC , and some more at the spondoolies facility, so they are worrying about the power distribution As for sp30s, i am probably going to go with the longterm hosting solution provided by spondoolies, which will be 290$ per month and sp30. I don´t want to worry about finding a DC with the capacity for high density deployment, so i am going with the fully outsourced model on this. It also includes a good SLA, specifically for miner hosting, making sure you don´t pay for stuff you don´t need. What is the cost per sp30 you are looking at with your facility? Most of the places i checked out weren´t really competitive if you don´t go for multiple racks, sadly. The ones with cheap power also typically dont bother with "small-time" customers.
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May 23, 2014, 07:49:55 PM |
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I am only hosting one in a local DC , and some more at the spondoolies facility, so they are worrying about the power distribution As for sp30s, i am probably going to go with the longterm hosting solution provided by spondoolies, which will be 290$ per month and sp30. I don´t want to worry about finding a DC with the capacity for high density deployment, so i am going with the fully outsourced model on this. It also includes a good SLA, specifically for miner hosting, making sure you don´t pay for stuff you don´t need. What is the cost per sp30 you are looking at with your facility? Most of the places i checked out weren´t really competitive if you don´t go for multiple racks, sadly. The ones with cheap power also typically dont bother with "small-time" customers. I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.
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May 23, 2014, 07:53:59 PM |
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.
Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost.
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May 23, 2014, 08:20:29 PM |
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.
Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost. It comes out to be about the same cost.
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May 23, 2014, 08:32:31 PM |
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.
Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost. It's not the same cost. Well the power cost is nice, but we also have to pay for a half cabinet while using only part of it. During the last weeks I've sent a lot of e-mail to a lot of datacenters in Europe and no datacenter is ready for bitcoin miners colocation. We need a datacenter which can supply a lot of power for small boxes. Paying for a 21U cabinet to use just a part of it is wasting money.
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May 23, 2014, 08:45:32 PM |
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.
Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost. It's not the same cost. Well the power cost is nice, but we also have to pay for a half cabinet while using only part of it. During the last weeks I've sent a lot of e-mail to a lot of datacenters in Europe and no datacenter is ready for bitcoin miners colocation. We need a datacenter which can supply a lot of power for small boxes. Paying for a 21U cabinet to use just a part of it is wasting money. That is true, however i wouldn´t bother with any DC in Europe (except Iceland) as their power cost isn´t competitive on a global scale. DCs in Iceland can typically handle a good power density, as their free air cooling is superb. High-density POD can provide up to 24kWh of natural free cooling. Washington State has some DCs equipped for high density, but you will not get any service there, if you are only looking for 1-2 racks. They sell corporate volume only. Keep in mind that most DCs are older, and 6kW/rack was considered plenty.
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May 23, 2014, 08:51:46 PM |
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.
Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost. It's not the same cost. Well the power cost is nice, but we also have to pay for a half cabinet while using only part of it. During the last weeks I've sent a lot of e-mail to a lot of datacenters in Europe and no datacenter is ready for bitcoin miners colocation. We need a datacenter which can supply a lot of power for small boxes. Paying for a 21U cabinet to use just a part of it is wasting money. That is true, however i wouldn´t bother with any DC in Europe (except Iceland) as their power cost isn´t competitive on a global scale. DCs in Iceland can typically handle a good power density, as their free air cooling is superb. Washington State has some DCs equipped for high density, but you will not get any service there, if you are only looking for 1-2 racks. They sell corporate volume only. Keep in mind that most DCs are older, and 6kW/rack was considered plenty. I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.
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May 23, 2014, 09:04:23 PM |
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I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.
Last quote i got was 78 €/kw for small customers, ofcourse this only gets cheap if you order multiple racks (ideally a whole DC container, then they can give you all the cooling you want)
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May 23, 2014, 09:04:33 PM |
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I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.
Can you share the details with info@ ?
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May 23, 2014, 09:05:42 PM Last edit: May 23, 2014, 09:24:55 PM by Collider |
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I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.
Can you share the details with info@ ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83332.0In this thread Bitfury talks about the options he got in Iceland when looking for a DC solution (for his 13 kw FPGA rack solution) Most of the stuff should still be accurate. (in the middle of the thread there is an excerpt from a conversation he had with the DC guys) (datacell.com) Special high power deals available for bitcoinmining and other CPU intensive applications (datacell Website) Basically, they get really cheap when you can rent a whole container. Thor Datacenter (Advania data centers) also provide (modular) solutions in Iceland.
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